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>> obviously i have made a few people mad. what do you think i'm going to do. >> he fits the mold of somebody who might be able to pull off a write-in. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". president trump back from asia and facing three big issues. topping the list, tax reform. senate republicans revising their tax plan to include a repeal of the individual mandate. an analysis shows it could save hundreds of millions of dollars but leave 13 million americans uninsured. president trump also facing questions about roy moore. mitch mcconnell suggesting moore quit the race for the alabama senate seat amid accusations of sexual abuse. >> senator mcconnell is floating attorney general jeff sessions as a possibly write-in replacement for more. sessions faced his own difficult challenge on capitol hill before

he ever gets to a senate race. forced to answer tough questions to congress about what he knew of trump campaign's interactions with russia. sessions saying he now recalls the meeting with george papadopoulos because of media reporting on it. suzanne malveaux live on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: chris, good morning. senate republicans trying to accomplish tax cuts and health care in the same bill. they feared that this toxic debate over health care the derail the process. senate republicans taking a gamble, propose to go repeal

obamacare's individual mandate requiring individuals to have health insurance or pay a penalty to free up $338 million billion to pay for tax cuts. >> we're optimistic that inserting the individual mandate repeal would be helpful. >> reporter: but the congressional budget office said repealing the mandate would result in 13 million people fewer having health insurance and drive up premiums by 10%. senate republicans also announcing that the individual tax cuts in their plan would be temporary, expiring in 2025 in order to comply with senate rules that would allow them to pass the bill along party lines. the cut in the corporate tax rate from 35% to 20%, however, would be permanent. >> they're cutting taxes on the wealthy and taking health care away from millions and raising the premiums of millions of others. >> reporter: the updated bill proposes to use the money for

the individual mandate to modestly reduce income tax rates for middle-income taxpayers and boost the child tax credit from $1,650 to $2,000. a priority for president trump's daughter ivanka. the president urged lawmakers to end the mandate on twitter monday. senator john mccain, who cast a dramatic vote, killing the last effort to repeal and replace obama care, signaling he's leaning towards supporting the bill. but murkowski and collins, who others who voted against the gop health care plan, indicating they're not sold on the idea. collins saying, i personally think that it complicates tax reform. house speaker paul ryan saying the senate must show the bill can pass before the house gets on board. >> the senate was the issue. so we're now seeing if the senate has the votes to repeal the individual mandate.

>> reporter: now, the house bill, is expected to go for a vote sometime tomorrow. now, this new senate plan is likely to come up with a vote after thanksgiving. this looks like it will be one heck of a fight, alisyn. roy moore digging in, refuse to go drop out of the race even as conservative supporters back away. now mitch mcconnell is raising a provocative possibility. nick valencia is live in gadsden, alabama with more. what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. they are increasingly abandoning ship on roy moore, with some calling for him to explain the inconsistencies in his defense, others calling for him to withdraw. last night at a campaign rally, he blamed the media for harassing him over the sexual assault allegations.

>> now they're together to try to keep me from going to washington. what do you think i'm going to do? embattled alabama senate candidate roy moore is digging in, refusing to drop out of the race and making it a spiritual contest. as some of his most conservative supporters are backing away. what is senate majority leader mitch mcconnell going to do? there could be a write-in candidate, and it's a name you know. nick valencia is live in >> he's obviously not fit to be in the united states senate. and we've looked at all the options to try to prevent that from happening. >> reporter: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell saying jeff sessions may be the only viable write-in candidate. >> the only one to fit that is the attorney general, extremely popular and well-known in alabama. that obviously would be a big move for him and the president. >> sessions himself weighing in during tuesday's testimony before the house judiciary

committee. >> i have no reason to doubt these young women. >> reporter: mcconnell telling reporters tuesday that he spoke to president trump about moore's candidacy when the president was in vietnam and they will have, quote, further discussions now that he is back in the states. the republican national committee announcing tuesday they are at the pulling out of a joint fund-raising agreement amid new signs a shift may be happening. among conservatives who defended moore after the initial allegations. >> for me the judge has 24 hours. you must immediately and fully come up with a satisfactory explanation for your inconsistency. if he can't do this, judge moore needs to get out of this race. >> reporter: representative mel brooks, who continues to support moore's candidacy, continues to avoid questions. >> i believe the democrats will do great damage to this country. >> reporter: even with the controversy surrounding him, roy moore has a lot of support in

the state of alabama. 30 days to go here for this special election. the race is getting ever so tight against dug jones. that says a lot. the last time a democratic senator was here is about 20 years ago. alisyn, chris. >> very interesting context. we have david gregregory and jo. let's put up what we know about the senate gop tax plan. reveals obamacare's individual mandate. the part of the plan that has been probably least popular since its separation. boosts the child tax credit to 2,000. lowers several middle-income tax rates. and the corporate tax rate is reduced to 20%. now let's talk about what we know about the impact of this. it will raise average premiums they predict, according to the

cbo, 13 million fewer people will be insure said over 10 years. it reduces the deficit by $338 billion. what do you see, david? >> well, i think this is a gamble on the part of republicans that they think is worth taking. because they can pick up conservative republican support. perhaps they may lose some. or the individual mandate, which is a problem. murkowski, collins and whatever happens in alabama if a democrat gets that seat in doug jones. but i think it is a gamble they are willing to take. it can take on the health care issue. it can create more room to get this under the water and increasing in the cost over the time to do it on a party line vote. in the end that may be the gamble they're willing to take. >> votes and voters. they of course as usual are absolutely correct. >> what? >> throwing the mandate in there is some sweet tea for some of the conservatives who don't like how it balloons the deficit. this takes care of that because

you will get all the subsidies out. and you will get $338 billion. however, the people who will be affected by withdrawing the mandate, young people, healthy people, high earners, they're all good. but the same people that the party and the president has promised to protect will be in that 10% premium rise. will be in that 13 million people who lose care. so on balance do you win the votes of the republicans to get it passed, but do you lose voters who get affected by it adversely? >> this goes to health care policy. the hating obamacare aspect that can rally some of the base in a culture war sort of patina. but ignoring the policy impact and their pocketbook. the bill has problems with regards to having a negative impact on on deficit and debt. this is an attempt to secure the coalition because hating

obamacare has been an article of faith among most republicans. the problem is this was originally a conservative proposal. and it will hurt some people. but there's always been a bet that those folks won't blame republicans for this. that, you know, you can distract them with a culture war issue. but especially the president's instincts to make this about the middleclass has to come with a sense of responsibilities to those folks, not just making the substance match the style but the impact doesn't hurt people. >> if fewer people have health care, that's going to hurt. the system will be hurt. i do think you're right. this is irresponsible to throw this in there. health care policy, whatever was wrong with obamacare, it worked over a period of time to create a level of certainty. and the health care industry has responded to that. now you will knock out a pillar underneath it and it becomes a bigger problem. people do lose coverage.

we saw politically in virginia people like their health care. when you give something, very hard to take it away. and they could be creating new problems for themselves. >> next top story. let's move on to alabama and what we are seeing happen play out with roy moore the candidate. listen, john, it seems like we have seen this before in the climate of harvey weinstein and all the other accusations. but you say this is unprecedented with what we are seeing. >> stop for a moment to reflect on the fact that the senate majority leader is saying he will not seat a member of his own party if he wins special election. the speaker of the house is saying you should step out because he is contradicting his alleged values. this is not just a candidate they are uncomfortable with because they think he is baggage. a member of their own party, we will not seat you if you win. >> you have a couple of disconnects going on here. when the weinstein allegations came out, they were acted on almost immediately.

here there was a big push back in the initial wave of let's see if the allegations are proven true which was always a hole le hedge, right? there is going to be no trial, no vetting. also, you have the federal versus local disparity here. this is playing different from roy moore in alabama. >> definitely. >> than it is on the federal level. the governor is a woman, kay ivy who says i'm going to vote for him. if the governor doesn't want to cancel or delay the special election allowing for sessions to get in there, he would have functionally split ticket with moore. and that would help jones and hurt sessions. why would he do this? >> yeah. >> that was a lot i just gave you. >> if he applies pressure to make this happen, but i do think what john says is important. you know, if you're a democrat and you want roy moore out but you're also complaining about

the inning steupbg the instincts, you have to say, are we letting the democratic process play out or aren't we? the message is being sent that he's going to lose that he is cratering. so you have all of these guys. the senate and the house is not a confession al. they are looking and saying they're going to lose the seat. they are working to get the white house involved. >> jones is a credible candidate for republicans who aren't on the roy moore band wagon. he went forward with the birmingham six decades after that. but it's fascinating also to see whether more senators take up jeff flake who on his way out the door can say, look, if i were in arizona i'd vote for the democrats. >> our friend ron brownstein writing on twitter yesterday, look at the dem strafographicde. more educated, alabamans who say

i don't want to be embarrassed here. our colleague scott jennings was reporting there is polling that mcconnell and others are looking at that show him cratering here. which is why there is such a move here. >> he needs to be calling here. first of all, it matters that she is a woman. you have to make a decision here. yes, it's a political one but a moral one. you don't believe these five women and the 30 corroborations of the on "washington post". now there are more since that happened. it's not just the governor is in control of the process. she's a woman and saying i'm voting for roy moore even though she has a number of women coming out with accusations. this is whether party loyalty asks too much. the question for voters in alabama and really across the country is do you believe in the person, not the party. at what point do you factor that in? or do you vote for the party not the person. this is a screaming case where that judgment which is supposed to be rooted in a democracy should be coming out.

because you don't have two equally responsible candidates, folks. if he has an "r" after his name, you can't ignore a whole host of -- >> and throw into the mix the president of the united states who went to bat for mitch mcconnell before and got burned and looked bad in alabama now all of a sudden is being asked to intervene again. he may not to follow the advice of mcconnell. by the way, be if he could get rid of his attorney general at the same time, he could solve a couple problems at once. >> the roy moore situation. he's opening himself up to a lot of the same criticisms. >> john avlon, gregory, thank you for that analysis. senate republicans tinkering with their tax plan adding a repeal of the individual mandate. what does that mean for you, for your money, for your health care. we ask one of the architects of obamacare next.

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the void mandate is the backbone of obamacare. repealing it would likely raise the cost of health care and leave 13 million more americans uninsured. but it fulfills a republican promise and it frees up $338 billion, injecting much needed cash into the tax plan. republicans say they want to direct that money toward middleclass tax relief by boosting the child tax credit and cutting several middle

income tax brackets. but that money is not enough to pay for across the board tax cuts. that is if congress doesn't want to add more than a trillion and a half to the deficit. individual tax cuts would expire in 2025. a lower corporate rate is immediate. it is favoring businesses over everyday americans. that intensifying debate is rattling the stock market. dow futures down 130 points. it has fueled most of the current rallies. any sign of failure, any setback could trigger a stock market se selloff. >> joining us to discuss it and dissect it, dr. vehicle emanuel, former white house policy adviser and stephen moore, krb economic analyst and former trump economic adviser. great to have both of you here with your different perspectives. steve, you like this. you like this plan. you are still involved with the

white house in helping guide them with economic policy if i'm not mistaken. here's the criticism and the concern. 13 million people lose their health insurance. so corporations can have tax cuts. so how do you square that? >> well, a couple of things. you left out a couple of things that are important. the people who pay this tax, this mandated tax under obamacare, the vast majority make less than $50,000 a year. many of them make less than 30,000 or 40,000 a year. it is an extremely regressive tax on poor people. those are the people who can't afford the mandate or the insurance. when you say 13 million people will lose their insurance, i want to be very clear on this. republicans are getting smart. nobody is going to lose their obamacare. nobody is. if you want it, you can still have it.

those 13 million people, alisyn, are people who don't want obamacare and can't afford it. and these are people saying i'm better off if to buy it. you are doing a favor for them. in other words, let me just say this one thing. i would love dr. emmanuel to respond to this. how are you doing a favor to people to require them to buy something they don't want? >> got it. zeke, there you have it. people didn't want it and you're forcing them to get it. now they do have health insurance. so go ahead, zeke. >> so there are two important points to note here. first, people often make a judgment now that they regret later, especially when they get sick or something bad happens and it's particularly the healthy people that that will decide not to get in. where we often know they can

come down with cancer, trauma. we're in the middle of an opioid crisis aimed at young people. they may note think they need the health insurance but off do need the health insurance. we need to have everyone in the system or the system becomes unstable. one thing mr. moore did not mention, if this goes through, we will see 10% increases in premiums year after year because healthy people will stop buying insurance and the premiums will go up for the sick. that hits a particularly demographic very hard here. those are families making about $100,000 a year who don't get any subsidies to offset premium increases. they happen to be largely people who voted for trump. self-employed people, people running small businesses. and it's going to hit them very hard because they are going to either see premium increases or not be able to afford their insurance. >> yeah. >> and the republicans are going

to hurt that group of people very hard. >> steve, here's what christine just gave us an example of. i don't have it full screen but i will spell it out. a typical middleclass family will get the $1,100 tax cut paul ryan has spoken of. great. they're excited about that. but if their health care costs explode, and let's face it, health care costs can be well over $1,100 a year, it doesn't wash for them and they end up losing. >> okay. so a couple of things. first of all, one of the in genius things about this, this has liberals twisted into a prets e pretzel. now liberals are complaining about it. this will freeze up, as you just said, it allows another 400 or $500 tax credit per child for middle class families. not only are they not going to have to face this tax of

obamacare, but they are also going to get an extra $500. >> and that will come out of health care costs? make your point, steve. >> hold on. let me just respond to this point about the rising costs. i'm in arizona right now. in arizona, the cost that zeke emanuel said we will save, it will cost double. in most cases they have gone up 20%, 25% a year. that's why people can't afford it. >> steve, this is one of those cases where you're completely distorting the fact. first of all, premiums are going to go up 10% a year. but this tax cut supposedly targeted the middleclass is going away 2025. so the extra boost will disappear for families. the second thing is we have also

seen a lot of bankruptcies and bad nonpayments because people can't afford health care go tremendously down as a result of bow 'bama care. people are better off financially with health insurance because if they get sick they don't go into bankruptcy. and the bad debt for hospitals also has gone down, allowing them to reduce premiums -- reduce what they charge for other people. and i would finally say, let's remember the politics here. you know, people in maine said we're going to -- by 20 percentage points, a blue state, we will expand medicaid because everybody should get insurance. in virginia, it was extremely unpopular to repeal obamacare. people are appreciating health insurance more and the more they use it. and the people steve moore and the trump administration will hurt are people at about $100,000. remember, they almost have $100

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all right. so was this just a coincidence? just hours after president trump arrived home from a 12-day asia trip, china announced it is sending a special envoy to north korea on friday. mr. trump says he was pushing china to do exactly that and help with controlling kim jong-un in some kind of hope for a reduction of their nuclear

program. is this progress? joining me is former secretary of defense ash carter now a director of the center for science and international affairs at harvard kennedy school. always good to be in your presence. >> thank you for saying that. likewise. >> the president says you're welcome. america is respected again around the world. and look what china just did. they're responding to my call to help with north korea. >> well, we'll see what china does. the president's trips with kai niece leaders tend to be largely ceremonial and symbolic. so we will have to see overall it is an important topic as well. we'll see what comes out there. with respect to north korea, we have been urging china for decades to take action with north korea to use the leverage it has to get them to step back. now as part of a strategy of

course of diplomacy as i call it, which is what i think we should be doing. i obviously can't were speak for the new team, tphaeur to neighb deference, meaning something step wise, don't launch another missile. if you do, here's what will happen to you, which is us and south korea mostly. and if you don't, here's what might be done for you. and that's where china can come in if china will do it. >> the envoy doesn't change the reckoning? >> they have had exchanges before. i'm hopeful, always hopeful. it would be difficult to say based upon historical experience that this is a turning point. you certainly certainly hope so. but the right approach and the one i hope they are saying is one of coercive diplomacy where

you mix the military and diplomat theic in a step by step process trying to get north korea to first halt and then reverse its nuclear missile developments. that's the path to go. >> is north korea a worse situation than when you were there or are we seeing a different type of dialogue in the exchange of a president who likes to exchange hot talk. >> i first worked with north korea in 1994. i did the strike plan, designed it for the then plutonium program. there have been ups and downs. some have worked for a few years. and that gives you some hope that it would work again. but generally it's gotten steadily worse. it was 2006 when they tested their first underground nuclear explosion. and they marched forward consistently since. and it's very risky. because you can't imagine, chris, and i know some people do but i don't.

that north korea will simply curl up in its ball and run all by itself its little disneyland of a country and not bother anybody if it does so safely behind a nuclear shiel tkfplt it will be an unstable situation. that's why it is so important to turn around. we have to step back and say this may or may not work. so deterrence and defense are extremely important. >> and you say trade has to be part of this conversation. i want to know why and your take on the president's feeling that tpp was a disaster and him doing it bilaterally is the key to america first and success. >> i think trade say strategic issue. it always seemed that way. to me it is a reflection of a nation's power and another way that the nation's power is expressed and that we get our

way. now, tpp was in my judgment, getting our way. our companies benefit, especially with respect to china if there are rules of the game and if china can't pick off countries and companies one by one. remember, this is a communist country. a communist controlled economy. we've never been in a sustained economic relationship with a economist controlled economy. during the cold war we had a long relationship, strategic relationship with the soviet union but we never traded with them. so they are able to steal intellectual property, suppress the internet and companies operating the internet in their country, engage in any competitive practices that the united states government and most other governments cannot do. so if we leave it to bilateral deals, we're putting our own

companies and trade at a disadvantage. it is much harder to put something back together again. we feel see if that's possible. this is the part of the world, chris, of greatest consequence to america's future. it's where half the population of the world lives. it's where half the economic activity is. if we're going to prosper as we need to so that the american dream can continue and our society can move forward, our companies need to be able to do business in asia. and we can't get pushed out by the chinese or put at a disadvantage by they are, after all, a coupmmunist country. >> if you want to take a step further down the path of negativity, you go to the southern edge and we have isis. now we are being told this administration has put us in a

better position, that the changes in military strategy that they have put in in allowing generals to have more call on the field as commanders, that we are now beating back isis, the caliphate is all but gone and we are in a much better position, do you agree with the assessment? >> we should be very proud of our military. we have defeated isil. that is us -- it wouldn't have happened. no other country would have done this but the united states. we enabled the destruction of isil in mows up and raqqa. that is not something that happened overnight. good things, chris, in american security happen over periods of time. this is a campaign that began two years ago and that basically continued. and i give great credit to my successor jim mattis. i have none for 20 years. and jim dunford, joint chiefs of staff, for continuing that campaign.

it has progressed pretty much the way we envisioned it two years ago. it was necessary to destroy the fact and the idea that there can be anis lambic state based on that ideology. >> it's not just about beating them there. >> no. but this did take away the base from which they were plotting in mows up and raqqa every day to kill americans. and with respect to inspired attacks of the kind of a loser orphan attic on the internet getting all jazzed up about this idea of the islamic state, you can't is stop that entirely. that is mostly a law enforcement and intelligence matter. but by destroying so visibly the islamic state, it is hard for anybody however deluded to believe this is a happening thing. now i always thought that having completed the military campaign successfully, which i was always confident we would do but i'm glad it's done or there's still

parts to mop up, that it would outrun the political and economic campaign. that's what concerns me most at this juncture, chris. and that -- the people who live there and have been liberated from isis need to see their lives improved. otherwise, some new form of despair and consequence extremism will follow. so it's important, and that is not a defense department thing but state the department agency, international community but that's what concerns me most at the moment. also, don't forget there are other nests of isis. you mentioned southeast asia. so we will have to go around and destroy them as well. so it's unfinished but it is a major milestone to have taken mosul and raqqa. we should be very proud of our troops and commanders for doing it. they led it. by the way, nato allies, they participate in very strongly,

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they were all distracted, this their earbuds on or cell phones on. they were within a 10 to 15 block radius. they believe all of these killings are connected in some way but they don't believe they're all in the same. they don't believe they all result from some commonality. so that's what they're looking for. they're looking for evidence that either links them or delivers them to this killer. >> the speculation even has that community and law enforcement on edge. rosa flores, thank you very much. so roy moore very much is he in the news and not for good reason. he is being pushed to back out of the alabama senate race.

he is refusing. what are people who know the controversial former judge saying about the situation? we head to alabama next.

roy moore, so far refusing to drop out of the alabama senate race amid allegations of sexual abuse. he is accused of trying to have relationships with girls when he was in his 30s and worse, and now those that knew him are

speaking out. a key piece to the puzzle, gary. good to have you. >> reporter: chris, good morning to you. roy moore is deeply respected here in his hometown in alabama, but not by everybody. since we have been here, numerous people, democrats and republicans have come up to talk about past behavior that they think is deeply revolting. one man worked in a record store at the local mall here and he was told there was an unofficial list of people banned from the mall. if he saw people there on the list he was supposed to tell security, people were pickpockets and scam artists and one in particular, assistant attorney. >> we talked about other people and somebody said, don't forget about roy moore. i asked what about roy moore? they said, well he banned from the mall. i said, why is he banned? the police officer would not

tell me, and he said if you see him let me know and i will take care of it. >> what did you eventually learn? >> i was told he was bothering girls in the mall. >> in what way? >> i don't know exactly, but he was approaching them and talking to them. >> when you say girls? >> teenage girls. >> roy moore was in his 30s in 1981. he said he saw him twice in the mall and he reported it to authorities. 1985 shortly after roy moore got married, roy moore and his new wife came into the record store and at that point nobody seemed to be bothered he was in the mall because he had a wife. the man is a democrat, but he says he votes by character.

>> thank you for reporting there on the ground. joining us now to discuss it is reporter and columnist, josh moon. good to have you here to give us the pulse of the state and to see what you are seeing unfold there. you just have written a column issuing an apology to america from alabama, and in it, you are apologizing because you say there has been too much pwaoebi thumping and too much holier-than-thou -- >> we elected him the chief state twice and he's on the doorstep of being our u.s. senator. at some point we owe people apologies for some of the stuff we do here, and until people take stock in what we are as a state and who here electing to

lead us i don't think we will ever get past a lot of the troubles we have in the state. i think roy moore is a prime example of some of the troubles we have here. >> why after hearing these five women's different stories and they don't know each other, why do you think so many alabamaens still support roy moore? >> we are in the conservative news bubble here a lot, and roy moore is a unique individual here in that he is almost pastor-like. he has become a deity to these people here and they are going to follow him and believe him above all else. it's a small percentage of people in the state who actually follow and believe roy moore. >> is it? i want to ask you about that. is he popular state-wide or is it a small percentage? we keep hearing before all this happened he was slated to win. >> oh, he was going to win.

you have to keep in mind, this is a low turnout race, and i am talking 10% to 15% is what was in the primary and the run-off between he and luther strange. he can bring people out to the polls and they will make a difference for him, and that's what happened, it was his people and people voting against luther strange in this race for reasons that would take too long to explain, but that's the reason why he was able to get to where he is. he's not necessarily popular throughout the state. most people, i would say the majority of the people in the state see him as kind of a phoney guy, and understand what he is doing has been pandering for a long time. >> you are impeaching your own voters in the state. let me read more from your column because it's colorful. you say what is it going to take before you realize your family volumes and conservative voting

approach is filled with lying, cheating and sexually assaulting money-grubbing criminals that embarrassed countless times and on top of everything mismanaged the hell out of this place. how is that going over with your fellow alabamans? >> it's sometimes hard to take a look in the mirror and get a true picture, and it's also impossible to deny. our house speaker is waiting to go to prison on 13 felony counts. our governor was on the virginia of impeachment before he resigned and pleaded guilty to two counts of campaign finance law breaking, and so we have our chief justice who has been kicked off the bench for a second time and has all of these problems that popped up now, and we are on the doorstep of electing him. i think, you know, it's a pretty accurate description of what is going on in the state. we need to make changes. >> you make a pretty compelling

case. last question. on december 12th in this election, is roy moore going to win or lose? >> if roy moore is on the ballot and given an opportunity to win, i believe, knowing this state as i do, he's going to win. >> josh moon thank you very much for sharing your perspective on alabama with us. >> thank you. we are following a lot of news. let's get right to it. >> we are optimistic concerning the individual mandate repeal -- >> we want to see if the senate can go first and see if they can get it done. >> they are cutting taxes on the wealthy and taking health caraway from millions. >> i have answered every question to the best of my recollection. >> you left not with a lot of confidence that he's being fully transparent. what is it going to take? >> it would take a factual basis that meets the standards. >> there has been over $30

million -- >> obviously not fit to be in the senate. we looked at all the options to try and prevent that from happening. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> it's november 15th, 8:00 in the east, and president trump is home from his asia trip and has three burning issues. first, senate republicans added the repeal of the individual mandate in obamacare to their tax reform plan. it helps them on the revenue side, and it may also help them on the political side. hundreds of billions of dollars over the next ten years could be saved if they do this, but 13 million americans could be uninsured and premiums could go up for the same group of people they say they want to help. and there's the roy moore controversy, and leaders saying moore should quit, and mitch mcconnell