seen the deficit raise very -- go up very substantially. trickle-down economics, in my view, is a fraudulent theory. it does not work, and it only benefits the wealthy. >> finally, i just want to ask you about roy moore. if he were to win, should he, an accused sexual abuser, be allowed to serve in the u.s. senate? should majority leader mcconnell allow him to take a seat? >> frankly, i think mr. jones is going to win that election. and we'll cross that bridge when we have to. but right now i have a strong feeling that the people of alabama will do the right thing and elect mr. jones. >> senator sanders, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. up next, the breaking news on roy moore. "the washington post" reporting tonight that two more women have accused mr. moore of unwanted overtures at an alabama mall decades ago. this comes as moore's attorney raises questions about one of his accusers. president trump does not answer questions about how he views the allegations against the u.s. senate candidate and whether he should step down from

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roy moore tops the hour, though probably not in a way that makes the white house or republican party especially comfortable. his attorney speaking out today and attacking one of the accusers even as two new one come forward. both worked at the mall in gadsden, alabama where moore, according to one store employee we talked to, was on a sort of watch list for pursuing teen girls. these two described encounters from 1977 to 1982. in the last hour i spoke by phone with one of "the washington post" correspondents who just broke the story, beth reinhardt. >> some women have been encouraged to come forward. and one of them we wrote about in a story posting tonight, a woman named gena richardson, a high school senior working at the mall at sears when roy moore approached her, asked her for her number, she declined.

she then was in school a couple of days later, in trig class, when she heard she got a call. she thought oh, my goodness, is it my dad. she went to the office. it turned out to be roy moore asking her out on a date. >> so what age was she? she was a senior in high school you're saying? >> yeah, she was 17 or 18. >> and do you know what happened? i mean, roy moore actually called her through the school, she's saying? >> he did. he called her at school. she said, i can't talk now. i'm in trig class. so he came back to see her where she worked and asked her out again. she relented. she met him that night at the movies. they went to a movie and he offered to drive her to her car, which was sort of on the other side of the maul parking lot. and sort of, you know, grabbed and kissed her. at which point she got kind of nervous and said i really need to go and left.

and then when he would come back into the mall, she would sort of hide from him. and this was at a time, in the late '70s, early '80s, he was gaining this reputation around the mall. we talked to a number of women around the mall who, back then, were asked out by him. some of -- some declined. some did go out on dates with him. but they say he was a constant presence at the mall. and, you know, his -- he was constantly going after girls who were teenagers or, in some cases, in their early 20s. >> again, this is "the washington post" reporting tonight. but it dovetails with the account of someone who worked at the time at a music store in the mall. he spoke yesterday with our gary tuchman. >> we talked about other people, and then somebody said don't forget about roy moore. and i asked, what about roy moore? and they said, well, he's banned from the mall. i said, why is he banned?

and the police officer wouldn't tell me. he said, if you see him, let me know, i'll take care of it. >> so what did you eventually learn as to the reason why he was banned from the mall? >> i was told that he was bothering girls in the mall. >> in what way? >> i don't know exactly. that he was approaching them and talking to them. >> girls -- when you're saying girls, are you -- >> teenage girls. >> and did you ever see him in the mall? >> i think i saw him walk by the front of the store once. i told my manager. my manager said, i'll call jd. and that's all i ever heard of it. >> and jd's the police officer? >> um-hum. and in '85, before i left, roy came in one day with his wife and bought records and left, and nobody said anything about it. >> did you report it? >> no. >> how come you didn't report it then? >> everybody was like, well, this is fine. so i said, okay. i don't know anything about any behavior towards any women. all i know is my experience in the mall with him at that time. and that's the truth. i don't have an ax to grind

against roy moore. you asked me, i told you. >> well, all this is happening on a day that saw roy moore's attorney go raising questions about one of his accusers. the accuser's attorney has responded. president trump did not say anything when asked questions about it after he spoke on television earlier today. we begin with cnn's kyung lah in birmingham, alabama. so i understand judge moore just tweeted about all this. what did he say? >> reporter: it's an indication of where his campaign is headed, what path he's going to take. and it is certainly going to be to try to pit alabama against washington, d.c. take a look at this tweet that came out just a few moments ago, anderson. it is terse, clear, and it says "dear mitch mcconnell, bring it on." that, anderson, is an issue that works and resonates in rural alabama where we spent a good bit of time talking to those voters.

those voters who are certain to turn out for moore. >> let's talk about this press conference today with moore's attorney. if anyone expected it to be some sort of announcement about stepping back or, you know, stepping out of the race, that's certainly not what happened. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely not. couldn't be further from the truth. if you thought we were going to get something substantive, it actually end up being about handwriting. the attorney for moore coming out and saying he wants the public to decide. he wants an analysis of the handwriting in the yearbook that roy moore supposedly signed according to his accuser, versus what his handwriting looks like. okay, so here they are. to your top left, that is from this year, him signing as a candidate. to your top right, that is in 1999 when the judge signed divorce papers for the accuser. and in 1977, the yearbook. the yearbook that he signed. it was beverly nelson's

yearbook. and you can see there -- you can make your own decision. but if you talk to the people shortly after this news conference, we did talk to at least one voter, and he said it's just making things awfully complicated for him. >> the attorney for one of moore's victims -- or alleged victims i should say, responded to more moore's attorney late today, essentially saying she's not going to give up this yearbook to be examined for handwriting unless, what, the senate tried this? >> reporter: unless the senate convenes a committee hearing and the judge testifies under oath. so earlier talking about the judge moore tweet, bring it on, essentially gloria allred is saying the exact same thing to the judge, bring it on. she wants a senate hearing. that's the only way she's going to hand over this yearbook, anderson. >> kyung lah, thank you very much. >> president trump was asked about moore today. here's how that went.

>> should roy moore resign, mr. president? >> do you believe the accuser? >> should he resign? >> no answer to those shouted questions. joining us now with reporting on a possible reason why, cnn's boris sanchez. do we have any understanding about the president's lack of a statement on this matter? >> reporter: a republican source close to the white house tells cnn that the president's silence on the issue of the allegations against roy moore goes back to his own previous controversies to allegations that the president himself in years past took part in sexual misconduct. according to this source, the president is apprehensive about getting dragged into a conversation about his own past accusers, specifically. the source telling us that the president believes that those accusers were unfair to him and suggests that the president believes that at least some of those accusers charging that roy moore was improper around them, are treating the senate candidate unfairly.

the president has had multiple opportunities to answer questions from reporters, not only in that clip that you played, but also last night when he arrived from his 12-day trip to asia. we should also mention on his preferred mode of communication the president has tweeted today about cnn, about "the new york times," about those ucla basketball players that were detained in china. but when it comes to roy moore, anderson, mum is the word. >> and what do republican leaders believe the president should do about all this? >> reporter: republican lawmakers have told cnn that they want to say something, to push him away from the republican brand. sources have told us that the president has actually had meetings with advisers to discuss this. one of those meetings included senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to figure out how they might prevent roy moore from getting into the senate. and they've explored different scenarios. one of them including potentially having attorney general jeff sessions as a write-in candidate. this whole special election is taking place because sessions left that seat to go to the

department of justice. that's an area described by sources at the white house as far-fetched. several sources, though, have told cnn that the president is fed up with the roy moore situation, that he would prefer to have him drop out of the race. but, clearly, that's not something that the president is saying publicly at this point. >> boris sanchez, appreciate that. i want to bring in our panel, gloria borger, scott jennings, michael caputo, amanda carpenter, simone sanders, and josh green. scott, i want to start with you. last night we talked about various options. what are you hearing from people you talked to on capitol hill? >> well, i'm hearing they've gone through this for the last 24 hours. and it also feels like all of these crazy ideas about write-in candidacies and machinations to put sessions out there are dying or are already dead. it also feels like that there is a movement afoot on something we discussed here last night, which is the concept of luther strange, who currently occupies the office, resigning, creating a vacancy, and then having the

governor of alabama, kay ivy, appoint a new senator. could be sessions, could be someone else, but that would reset the process. some people were tweeting about that today. that appears to be under research at the highest levels of the republican party. i'm also hearing from people in the white house that there is enormous frustration on behalf of the president and his senior staff because they believe this roy moore thing is embarrassing to the party, but they also believe there are really no good options, and that frankly he may not even be able to get the alabama republican apparatus to bend to his will anyway, because it ain't like it used to be. you know, local control of parties now seems to trump what the national structure wants. so there's a lot of frustration in washington. i think all the options really to get this done are dead, except for this idea of a resignation by strange, which would reset the election. >> i think if donald trump were to come out, had he done something today, come out and say -- as i think he should have, come out and say, i think he should step aside, then he

would have some power. i don't think anybody else in washington has any authority. i think you're 100% right. but i think donald trump would have been able to talk to the people in the state and say i think you don't want this hanging over your head, and i think he ought to step aside. now, obviously donald trump didn't want to bring up "access hollywood" and everything else, and he's in a funny political position. i get that. but this is a bigger story than donald trump. >> michael, the president already weighed in with people of alabama about luther strange. as a supporter, does it make sense for the president to weigh in on this? >> people talk about donald trump as being, you know, impetuous and quick to react to things. many in my experience, he's very deliberate, especially on things that really matter deeply. i think he's faced a very interesting situation for all those who supported him for many years believe he was falsely accused before the end of the election. so he's in an odd situation now.

>> there's no good options. >> thursday none. as a strong trump supporter from a flyover country, i trust the president to do the right thing. i trust the president is already doing the right thing. and i think even though people wanted him to do in 24 hours, i think he'll do it in his own time. >> and what is it? what do you think he'll do? >> in my opinion, i think the president will probably make communication with the judge early on, he may have done it already. and this thing looks so embarrassing and difficult for the republican party that i think the president is going to have to do the right thing. >> i do think there was a bigger misstep by the president earlier in the primary process where he did get behind luther strange, because he was taking advice from mitch mcconnell. who dumped $9 million behind his super pack into the race. the conservative base was never behind luther strange. donald trump made a misstep there. so the fact that alabama voters didn't listen to trump, it was more about mitch mcconnell's endorsement. and who mitch mcconnell was geing behind. conservatives were uniting behind roy brooks, the alabama congressman. roy moore was never the

consensus choice. so i do think donald trump needs to take some responsibility for misreading that situation, and that's also why he's much more hands off now. >> the other problem trump has is he doesn't look to use. and he was humiliated publically, it was an embarrassment, the fact that steve bannon had propped up roy moore was an additional embarrassment. if you're donald trump look at how things are going to unfold in the next two, three weeks i don't think you can say at all with certainly whether moore is going to lose or stay in the race. so it's not clear what trump would want to do from a standpoint of i want to come out of this looking good, looking like a winner. >> also people in class houses cannot throw stones. look, if i was donald trump's press person, we wouldn't be talking about this. if he's going to bring it up, it's going to come right back to "access hollywood" and all of the women that have come out and accused the president of sexual

harassment and being a sexual predator, if you will, he disparaged those women. he literally talked about bringing lawsuits against them. and now for donald trump to stand up in some moral beacon with this, i just don't see that happening. >> it's already coming up. it's already being recycled. the women are saying, why aren't you listening or why didn't you listen to us? i think donald trump gets it either way. but he's the leader of the country and also the leader of the republican party. and does the party want to be branded -- >> but they already elected -- i guess i'm confuse ed because donald trump talked about grabbing women by a word i'm not going to use on anderson's program. he bragged about it on the tape and then came out and disparaged these women. so my memory is not that short and i don't think neither is the memory of the american people. he is an alleged, if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, sexual predator sitting in the white house. so i don't expect him to come out on top in this at all and to speak from a point of clarity or

authority. >> what would be the moment of him not weighing in on this? >> if he doesn't weigh in on it, there won't be any harm to the election process, because it will just continue -- >> but his agenda -- >> his agenda is in peril here. we knew about polling last night and heard more about it today. the republicans in washington believe moore is now down in double digits. i heard about polling prior to these issues in which he'd seen his lead down by 2 points, largely because jones and the democrats are outstanding the republicans in alabama. and now with the nrsc out and rnc out and basically anybody who can help fund-raising there out, that spending disparity is going to get worse. that disparity is going to get worse. so there are a lot of people out there who believe he was already declining, this is going to get worst. think about this. steve bannon may elect a democrat to the reddest state in america. >> i think you're giving steve bannon too much credit. >> one second.

michael. >> the one thing i look at, as someone who supports the president and supports steve bannon, for example, those of us who believe ed broderick and catheen, i was one speaking very favorably in inviting them to the debate to set the clintons back on their heels at a time that was very important. if we're inclined to believe them, those of us who are supporters of the president need to take a look at judge moore through that lens, because if they're believable, so are those accusers. >> ivanka trump weighing in. we'll tell you what she has to say. and later the shocking disclosure how much your taxpayer money has gone to settle sexual harassment claims and other claims in congress, and how many lawmakers right now are accused of misconduct. man: proper etiquette is essential for every social occasion. so the the broom said, "sorry i'm late. i over-swept." [ laughter ] yes, even the awkward among us deserve some laughter. and while it's okay to nibble in public,

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ivanka trump made women issues a special part of our work at the white house, spoke out today about roy moore. she said, quote, there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. she added, i have yet to see a vald explanation, and i have no reason to doubt the victims' accounts. that's two full sentences more than we've heard from the president on the issue. back now with the panel. is there -- what about steve bannon in all this the i turn to josh who's all things steve bannon. >> there are published reports in the last couple of days that bannon was wavering and having second thoughts and might be thinking about jumping back from moore. i checked with some of my sources and they said no, that's

not true. if you look at what moore just tweeted, mitch mcconnell, bring it on. that sounds as if it were ghost written by bannon. so every indication is he's still standing four square behind roy moore. >> i spoke with a force familiar with what steve bannon is thinking. he's out of the country right now. it's not good time for him to be out of the country, but he is. and he is not backing down at all. and what i want to know is has he talked to the president about this or will he talk to the president about this? and i don't know the answer because i think it would be a concern for donald trump, since they are working together on a lot of other things and a lot of other issues and he supports him in a lot of ways. >> the press conference today, did that help moore? because, you know, valid -- if you believe in roy moore, you could say the attorney raised valid questions. you look at his explanation of the da after the signature, it's not something roy moore did. that's actually the initials of

somebody who worked in the court who signed after his name on legal documents. and mysteriously that da is actually signed up on the yearbook thing, according to to the attorney, that's not something he ever wrote. he was actually the assistant district attorney. >> i think it depends on one person, sean hannity. it's often said when people hold press conferences they're doing it for an audience of one, president trump. had said he was trying to get a reprieve from sean hannity -- >> he said you have 24 hours. >> he said, basically, you have 24 hours and moore dutifully went out and not only gave the press conference, but released the statement essentially laying out he said basically you had 24

hours and moore dutifully went his argument for, you know, why these accusations are phony and why hannity should support him. and i think basically that's his way of doing damage control. so the question of whether or not it helps him, i think we'll find out. >> the flip side gloria has declared i don't want to do any favors of saying i won't hand over the yearbook. >> allred, really i think hurt her client by calling for a senate investigation of someone who's not yet in the united states senate. that was crazy. now, none of this press conference today addressed the original person. lee corfmane, 14 years old. that original story, no chance or no attempt at all to refute it. so if you're trying to look at this objectively, should i believe him, the accusers? that original story, no attempt at all to refuse it. >> look, they were just trying to muddy the waters here. i think they were trying to get it out there, muddy the waters, yeah, we didn't sign this, she's not telling the truth because i was presiding over his divorce proceeding, et cetera, et cetera. so it was just, you know, to

kind of muddy it up a little and give people something to raise questions about. but did it answer any questions definitively? >> one person's muddling is another person's trying to give whatever evidence you can. >> was he trying to muddy the waters or give his campaign some options. as someone who's been on far too ma m panicked campaigns, things move fast at you in these situations and maybe he's trying to buy some time. >> but i do think the legal documents that the lawyers presented are not helpful to moore. because moore's defense is i've not seen the women, and then they say look at these papers i signed in these divorce proceedings. that makes roy moore look worse than it does the woman. >> although, the point was raised a judge sees thousands of cases, would he have remembered if he had been involved. again, just another point of view. >> but he wants to use her evidence to discredit her.

>> he's attacking the quote-unquote victims here. i absolutely agree with gloria, he tried to muddy the waters. here. and i'm not buying the case about, oh, the judge sees plenty of cases. and why provide this paperwork then to corroborate you know her? >> just to make her look bad. >> it doesn't add up and make sense. and frankly i don't really know if this is helpful or harmful to the voters in alabama. i know we talked about the polling and sliding in the polls. i think this is what we were hearing in the presidential election, in the general when we folks were saying, donald trump can't get elected, when we found out people in polling were not just willing to say -- >> you think there's more support for roy moore in alabama. >> i think there's more sport than people are letting on. there's a chance doug jones could win. doug jones needs only needs 28% of african-american support to win this election. i don't know what support the

dnc has put out to support that. i just think we need to take a step back here. but if there are enough moderate republicans in alabama that are like, look, i don't like this, the pedophilia is just a little too much for me, perhaps doug jones will be elected senator. but i think we have to be realistic. >> yeah, polling around a news bomb like this could be extremely volatile. i believe moore has dramatically fallen off, but i don't believe the race is over for him. he could win. jackie spears says two form er lawmakers are accused of sexual allegations and more than million dollars have been paid out in secret using your tack dollars and other claims. her interview when we continue. dollars and other claims. her interview when we continue. dollars and other claims. her interview when we continue. dollars and other claims. her interview when we continue. dollars and other claims. her interview when we continue. dollars and other claims. her interview when we continue. who are these people?

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today two female democratic lawmakers, congress woman jacky spear and senator kiersty gillibrand, introduced claims to change how allegations are handled on capitol hill. they held a press conference where congresswoman spear said

at least two sitting members are currently being accused of sexual harassment. she would not say their name. and she also disclosed that millions of taxpayer dollars had been paid out in settlements. >> in the last 20 years there have been 260 settlements, at a cost to the taxpayers of this country of 15 million dollar. that $15 million has been there to silence victims of all types of workplace discrimination. today we are here to change that. abusers and sexual predators have thrived in the shadows in our current system where all the power is deliberately taken away from the survivor. >> earlier i spoke with congress woman jacky spear. congresswoman spear, you said the current system is setup to protect the harassers and silence those who have been harassed, how would your bill change that? >> well, it changes it dramatically. right now there's literally 90

days that a victim has to wait before they can either file a complaint or go to court. they also have to file and sign a nondisclosure agreement. they aren't represented by any counsel, and yet the harasser is represented by the house of representatives. so our legislation, it's a bipartisan bicameral piece of legislation, will allow a victim to shorten that time frame, not participate in mandatory mediation, not sign a nondisclosure agreement if they don't want to. it will also apply to interns and fellows who are not covered by the program now. and if it's a member who sexually harasses, they will have to repay the settlement to the u.s. treasury. >> it was revealed yesterday there are two sitting members of congress who have been accused of sexual harassment. i know you said you don't want to name them because the victims don't want it exposed.

but by not naming them are you actually protecting them, not holding them accountable, allowing them to continue their behavior? >> first of all, if anyone feels they're being sexually harassed, they should come to me and i will personally walk them over to the office of compliance so they can get services and file a complaint. these are what are called nondisclosure agreements. if the victim violates that nondisclosure agreement, they could loose their settlement, be subject to court. they've already gone through hell. they went through hell in the office or either through the process, which one of them has said to me is worse than actually the harassment itself. so i am going to protect those victims. >> so if you named those people who are accused that would be violating their nondisclosure agreement automatically? >> correct, in the case of one, yes. >> so it is pretty astounding the american taxpayers are the

one right now who foots the bills for these harassment settlements. we're talking potentially millions of dollars. >> well, actually, over the last 20 years, more than $15 million has been paid by the taxpayers of this country to settle about 260 -- 2-6-0 settlements that dealt not just with sexual harassment but forms of discrimination. racial discrimination, disability discrimination. so it is in fact a problem we really need to address. >> is there something about the cultural of congress on capitol hill that makes it slower to respond or in the past has been slower to respond to something like this? does it still have one foot stuck in the path? >> i think this system is really in the dark ages, and we are now in the 21st century. so the program and office was created in 1995 after the

packwood scandals. and i think it was done with the idea that they would create the image that we were doing something. but it was really a big stop sign for victims because there are all these hoops that they have to jump through if they want to either file a complaint or file a lawsuit. >> congresswoman spear, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. we're going to take a break and talk to the panel about this, about what the congresswoman said. also the debate over tax reform in congress now including another controversial element, obamacare repeal. we'll talk about that with the panel as well. t having his parer was enlightening. ♪ you don't like my lasagna? no, it's good. -hmm. -oh. huh. [ both laugh ] here, blow. blow on it. you see it, right? is there a draft in here? i'm telling you, it's so easy to get home insurance on progressive.com. progressive can't save you from becoming your parents. but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto.

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all or nothing, that is the phrase coming from capitol hill as congressional republicans try to sell tax reform, and they're not making their jobs any easier. that's because senate republicans added a partial obamacare repeal to their version of the bill. aides tell cnn they are confident the bill will pass, but it only takes a few senators to sink it. the president tweeting, quote, big vote tomorrow on the house, tax cuts are getting close, and quote, why are democrats fighting massive tax cuts for the middle class, business and jobs. the reason, obstruction and delay. before we get to this, i want to talk about

congresswoman spear and what she should. does it make sense to you she's not naming the two people? >> not at all. listen, if it weren't for the fact kirsten gillibrand was involved in this and i worked on capitol hill, i wouldn't believe a word jacky smear said. the reason you know she's not telling the truth is she's moving her mouth and sounds are coming out. she's absolutely the most unreliable liar in the house of representative. i know that because she lied about me after i testified before congress in the house intelligence committee. she wasn't there, didn't attend and didn't have a transcript even and she went on cnn and accused me of lying before congress. and since then hasn't proved anything. just decided to trot on and do something else, and find other headlines. and this is one of them. >> i will say if it is indeed is true that $15 million taxpayer dollars were spent to potentially cover up sex crimes. >> it wasn't just sexual harassment claims, it was also other forms of discrimination.

>> yeah, but to cover this up, and spend taxpayer dollars secretly, that is a huge scandal. i don't like the reforms she's proposing. i think a two step solution would be much better. first introduce a stand alone piece of legislation that says we abolish this fund, there will be no taxpayer dollars for some kind of sexual harassment claims. because i bet this is nots limited to congress, but also other agencies. and second she has to name the names. there is nothing that will work better than putting the fear of god into the hearts of these members of congress that they will not get away with this again. so i understand wanting to protect the accusers, but i don't understand how coming forward with the names of the people who did this, hurts the accusers. >> the idea she would respect a mda, a guy who attacked someone and wouldn't respect the explicit mda of me testifying before a classified briefing

defies credulity. >> clearly he has feelings. i think we have to start having a larger conversation about this is clearly a system that is working. we have to examine our sexual culture and how our sexual culture supports this type of behavior. >> and state capitols around the country as well. albany we have the same problem, tallahassee we have the same problem. those are just two that i know of. state capitols around the country are run the same way. >> ohio has had legislations, my home state of kentucky, the speaker of the house just resigned. amanda's point resonates to me on the taxpayer dollars, demanding transparency. however, i do think we should say a word for victims. i don't think we do enough for victims in this country. i don't think our laws respect them. if there was worry transparency would hurt them or cause them any sort of life trouble at all, that's something we cannot overlook. >> let's talk about tax cuts. should republicans be optimistic

do you think? >> well, they're trying really hard to be optimistic. >> collins, murkowski -- >> and you had ron johnson tonight of wisconsin saying, i don't think i can vote for this unless you change small business provisions. and the house is going to vote on all this tomorrow, and they're going to wonder are we going to go out on a limb again like we did on health care only to have the senate cut off the branch? and that could well happen. now, taxes are always an easier issue for the republicans. but now they brought health care into it again. and they've given the democrats a talking point, which is you're going to cut 13 million people off the rolls. and it'll save some money, but people's premiums are going to go up. >> if they don't do -- we talk about, if they don't do health care, they face voter, you know,

outrage. >> they also need the money. they need the $338 billion in this bill. let's talk about ron adjust stn because his statement today is getting a lot of attention. the last line of the statement is important, i still want to vote for this. let's go down the memory hole here. he did this on obamacare. there was a stern talking to on the senate floor and he voted aye. so what i'm hearing is johnston has got legit concerns, he's still gettable. >> the senate's suggested delay of one year for these tax can yous is a disaster for the american economy. there's nothing wrong with the 2018 elections for the republicans, the 3% growth quarter after quarter fix. and if they delay these tax cuts until 2019, they doom the republican party in 201. >> so i want to be clear, the republican voter gs are not standing up, taking to the streets and saying give us tax reform. many members have been on the record saying the donor class is saying do this or you're not getting the money. secondly, in terms of they need

the money to do this -- that partial repeal of the mandate, how about we just don't cut corporate taxes so much and there you'll have some money. i think it's getting con vvolut, they don't have the votes, and this will be dangerous. and if folks want to say good-bye to this, they've got to take a vote. we've got to take a break. (♪)

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fresh off his trip around asia president trump gave a white house address today. everyone expected a lot, a major announcement perhaps mainly because of his tweet two days ago, saying, quote, i will be making a major statement from the white house upon my return to d.c. time and date to be set. instead it was a recounting of his trip, no major announcement like what people have expected. back now with the panel. what do you make of the speech? >> it was sort of like dear diary.

this is what i did today and this is what i did the next day, and this is what my trip was like and this is what i've done this is what i've done for americans. and he kept saying that we were now respected. that's a really important word to donald trump, is respect. and he felt he was shown respect, therefore the country was shown respect and the predecessors were not respected. as far as having some kind of huge show here, what did he get, i didn't see it. >> makes sense he would want to take time to recount it if he feels it's not getting coverage. >> what did he get out of it? >> i'll tell you. they're looking at polling where the majority say he's not fit to hold the office. today's speech didn't break a lot of news but he looked like a president, sounded like a president. looked like a competently run trip. the chinese are now sending an envoy to north korea. we have trade deals and investment deals in china, south

korea, and vietnam. and so i think they are on a campaign right now to use the presidency to look and sound like a president to alleviate this pressure on not fit to hold the office. frankly, they need to talk about this trade and investment because they need people to connect their improving views on the economy to trump's leadership. that will also help his job approval and balance score. >> i don't think it's so unusual for a president who was out of the country for so many days, i think remarkable amount of days, a record for at least modern times to want to come back and recount what he's been through. in fact, i think a lot of what he was looking at, there wasn't a lot of coverage of the job creation that's going to come out of it. a lot of people think about as an immigration president, a health care president, i think of him as a growth president. i come from the ranks of these tax cuts he's proposing and i believe that his singular focus

on creating jobs, even when he's out internationally, focused on economic nationalism, that's a message that works with his base and was proven by the growth that comes out of these tax cuts. >> they would like to see the jobs, though. i saw this more as does donald trump have nothing else to do today than recount what he did last week that we all saw because we watch the news. i want to go back to him lecturing south korea on their history, hanging out with dictators and human rights abusers in the philippines. those are some things that also happened. taking jabs at kim jong-un on twitter. so it's hard for me to think that the white house had a deep strategic play as you're purporting that they do. they need to just go ahead and bring you on staff. i don't think that's what they did today. >> but the white house does like to play up these international trips.

we go back to president trump's trip to the middle east. when he came back he gave this long gushing statement about how donald trump single-handedly put the united states on a path to peace. really overplayed it. it's quite stunning. and then trump essentially just made the case for himself this time talking about the historic nature of this trip. clearly he takes a lot of pride in these trips. when he's over there he doesn't get as much bad press. so i understand why he would do that, but i do think he does have something to talk about. if the chinese did indeed send a convoy to north korea to reopen talks because of pressure that donald trump put on them, that is a big, big deal and he should take credit for it. >> a lot of what he's going to be judged on on foreign policy in his first term is whether he ratchets down this north korean issue. he called for for denuclearization of north korea today. if somehow he works with the chinese and the russians and the international community to get

that done, that's a home run foreign policy thing and it really is the most important threat to the united states right now that's nonterrorism and clearly he made some progress on it. >> but a lot of people, including james clapper, say that denuclearization of north korea is an impossibility. it's not going to happen. so can auto ooh unite the world against north korea? did he try and do that, absolutely. we can all agree that that's what we want to do. does calling kim jong-un rocket man help? we can disagree on that. but -- >> ignoring him didn't work. >> strategic patience is what the policy was. but, you know, that chapter has to be written yet. >> all right. i want to thank everybody. we are not done with the president's address. well, the "ridicu-list" is next. different kind of coverage. hey, man. oh!

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time now for the "ridicu-list." i promise you we were all ready to go with a fun one about thanksgiving pants and then later this afternoon president trump addressed the nation and something weird happened. >> this will include purchases of u.s. advanced capabilities from jet fighters to missile defense, systems worth many, many billions of dollars and jobs for the american worker. prime minister and i -- >> it was at that point that curiosity set in. is he chewing gum, are fire ants eating his tongue and ps, why did he just say prime minister and i? what prime minister?

>> prime minister and i also discussed ways we can deepen our trade relationship based on the core principles of fairness and resiprocity. i am pleased that since january of this year 17,000 jobs -- thank you. they don't have water? that's okay. what? that's okay. japanese manufacturers -- >> i'm sorry. what a natural, graceful way to open a bottle of water. the official trio of mascots at this address were finished with their business at the podium. i would like to say it, but i cannot.

>> we made at that time is running out and we made it clear and all options remain on the table. we also announced $250 billion worth in trade investment deals that will create jobs in the united states. from china i flew to the city of da nang. >> i feel bad for him. i've actually given speeches where i've had dry mouth. it's not pleasant. i fully aware it is not the most mature thing in the world to be talking about this at all. here's how we all learned that lesson. >> false choices like the one the president laid out tonight. >> and he goes like this. remember? and it's off screen. then he goes totally off-camera during live television and he grabs a bottle of water with the label on it. it's rubio.

>> now, if you swish it out, you've got to take it. you've got to grab it with both hands, and you've got to drink on the "ridicu-list." thanks for watching 360. time to turn things over to don lemon. cnn tonight starts now. he is the candidate, his own party desperately wants to get rid of, but roy moore is not only refusing to drop out of the senate race, he is doubling down against one of the women who accuses him of sexually assaulting her when she was a teenager. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. an attorney for moore's campaign saying tonight that accuser beverly young nelson had a divorce case assigned to judge moore 18 years ago. and demanding she produce her high school year book so moore's team can have a handwriting expert examine what she says is moore's signature. i'm going to talk to attorney gloria allred about that in just a moment. time will