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philadelphia. we welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. a torrent of sexual wrongdoing charges continues across party lines. the latest against senator al franken, who some already say should step down. could that happen? should that happen? feminist icon naomi wolfe is here to weigh in. meanwhile despite additional accusers, alabama senate candidate roy moore swears he'll never step down. until he's in his grave. but as moore falls behind in the polls. what do the gop's options? plus, you've seen the ads, california billionaire tom styer is on a crusade to begin impeachment proceedings against president trump. but where's the evidence of treason or bribery or a high crime or misdemeanor. i'll ask.
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>> the plastic surgeon who performed the vaginoplasty, is here to explain her operation. amidst the drip drip drip of daily allegations of sexual harassment, we're in the middle of a sexual rights revolution. the right of a woman to be left alone and the corresponding obligation of a man to leave her alone. with real consequences for him of any violations. now, in order for that right to be fully recognized, more will will have to make complaints and pursue legal remedies against those member who overstep. too often in the past stigma and embarrassment precluded prompt reporting. hopefully that will change in a more welcoming environment, in which women who have been wronged can present their claims. that's in their best interests, and in the best interests of men who stand accused because each may then rely on fresh memories and evidence. otherwise there's no way to
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safeguard the due process rights of the men accused. and the public is left making decisions swayed by gender or partisan predilections. the latest to be the focus is senator al franken. while the story is two days old it's already a remarkable snapshot of just how far the revolution has taken us. in the old days, which may mean going back just a couple of weeks, the accusation likely wouldn't have been made or if it had, would probably have been denied. the perpetrator's colleagues would likely have said things like well this is matter for someone else like the courts to decide or if this seems out of character for the person we know. now women are feeling somewhat more emancipated to come forward and perpetrators are somewhat more likely to admit fault. like franken did. and colleagues are more likely to undertake an investigation, as the u.s. senate will do. and punish even over issues that arose many years ago. until the revolution is
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complete, there will be some instances based on events many years ago where sharp disagreements exist between the parties as to what occurred in those cases the public will need to apply critical thinking and evidentiary analysis to that which is known, resisting the temptation of making judgment based upon like or commonality with the parties. some of us lived through the civil rights revolution for african-americans, including the passage of the civil rights act. most of us lived through the gay rights revolution, including the national recognition of marriage equality. now we may be at the beginning. of the development of the civil right to be left alone. it's about time for this right to be recognized. valued, asserted. and protected by us all. joining me now to discuss, naomi wolfe, author of the seminal book "the beauty myth" and the ceo of the dately clout, she served as an adviser to al gore. what do you make of my
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assessment of this being such a remarkable moment in time. >> you're right it's a remarkable moment in time. not because of there being new rights the slaw very clear and very good on what these alleged violations are. what is changing is women and you know some men are done with taking in to themselves shame and bad secrets that don't belong to them. and they're bringing them forward. and technology is helping, too. social media allows women who and i'll just use women for shorthand, men are violated as well, to make claims that then other women in real-time can validate. and what happens then is you start to look at the methodology of the perpetrator rather than always singling out the victim. looking at her, what was she wearing? what did she say? why is it her fault. we see waves of accusations come forward. perpetrators often have the same methodology over and over. so that does radically change our reality. we're looking at historical
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events that are likely rather than the eternal he said/she said. >> with regard to senator rankin, there are it was pektwof this claim there are the forced kiss and the photograph. are there equally reprehensible or is one worth than the other. >> i would like to us get away from these subjective discussions of sexual violation. sexual assault. and really drag it always out of culture and emotions into the realm of law. i was in my 50s before i was told by my partner, who is a private investigator, that my professor putting his hand between my thighs against my will when i was 19 is sexual assault according to the law of the connecticut. i didn't know, i thought it was harassment. a lot of the discussion media including cnn often has been identifying a lot of these violations that are crimes, according to state law. it varies state by state, but are crimes, not harassment, that
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is accurate. forcibly kissing someone is sexual battery or sexual assault. depending on where you are. in afghanistan, or even on a plane, if in a military context that's u.s. law. the u.s. law applies and the other thing is i can't see from the image, that extraordinary image, whether senator franken or then al franken's hands are on miss tweeden's body. but if there's a big difference if he's touching her, it is sexual battery or sexual assault. if he isn't touching her, it's just an incredibly horribly insensitive violating thing to do. >> right. i ask because leeanne tweeden in her facebook and on interviews says she was groped from that photograph i don't know that he's actually physically touching her. maybe just staging something in poor taste and presumably she would have awakened if he had touched her. >> not necessarily. you know just to jump in, this tweeden thing of all of these waves of horrible you know
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descriptions of crimes this tweeden thing really gets me. i've started to speak publicly about the fact that i, too, am a survivor of childhood rape. and this image is such, it is, it says everything and it's got to be triggering to rape victims about rape conduct tur. shoos she's unconscious, she's been in a war zone, she cannot consent if she's not conscious, the law is very clear about that. it says everything about you know how rape culture says women's bodies are yours to enjoy, use, touch. manipulate, they have no boundaries. so it's a very serious image to me and the thing that offends me about senator franken's apology even though you know it was clearly kind of written with a lot of input from women and it sounds nominally kind of heartfelt, it infuriates me, because it's 2006 when the image took place, it's not 1840.
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women like me and all of these other women in the women's movement have been vocal for decades and decades, and the law is very clear. that touching women sexually against their will when they're unconscious, when they're, intoxicated, the law is clear about that. is illegal. and you know, the other thing is a third of women have already been raped by or sexually molested by the time they're 18. 17% of men. he doesn't know she's already been violated, right? like when, i mean many women who have victimized are being revictimized, it's a serious image. and i don't think an apology is sufficient in those terms. he should have known better. >> you've just anticipated my final question. where she has accepted his apology. are we obligated as a society to do so? >> i don't mean to be so difficult. but i want to keep challenging this notion of what's our social views about this. it's not up to her to decide what standard procedure should be in the senate. when someone is accused of an assault or a violation.
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right? there should be transparent procedures in every workplace. including in the senate. including on a uso tour, including in the u.s. military in afghanistan. right? where the u.s. was holding this event. with a nonprofit. and they should be transparent. i mean yale, when i filed a complaint against dr. bloom, i filed a formal grievance, i did it in 2016 and system is set up to say well naomi what do you want to have happen. well leeanne, what do you want to have happen. it's not up to me. it's the state that should be prosecuting the perpetrator. >> are you making an argument for the rule of law. and i buy into that. >> naomi wolf, thank you as always. >> thank you, it's a pleasure, thank you. what are your thoughts? tweet me @smerkonish or hit me on my facebook page. from facebook. i think it's great the floodgates have opened and women are ready to talk in a noerm
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where people are actually listening and care. and amanda as part of my opening commentary, what i was trying to go back and say, go back to the first one, that's a good thing for women, because now hopefully they won't feel ostracized if they bring forth their claims. it's good for men, that there be timely complaints made while memories are fresh and there's other evidence. either supporting or in contradiction of the charges. so i think it's all good. one more if i've got time. i'm sorry about that. there are sexual assault, sexual harassment and bad behavior. don't you think, it's more about bad behavior than sexual assault or harassment, staged photo with the intent to be funny at a rehearsal kiss that wasn't forced, political or traumatized? >> carroll dee, i see the two separately. i treat the photograph differently than i do the forced kiss. which might have been a battery or assault depending on how it
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played out. so that's my view up it. up next, that other potential senate scandal. alabama candidate roy moore who says he'll only step down when he's in his grave. how will this story end? i want to go over the options. (matthew) my wish was a clubhouse, but we call it "the wish house". (mom) and it just immediately brought something positive in our life. "oh, i gotta get up get matthew on his treatment." (matthew) it's not that bad, though. (mom) yeah. (matthew) the good thing about the surgeries is i get to have a popsicle at the end. (mom) he makes the best of everything and he teaches us to be strong and brave, too. (vo) through the subaru share the love event, we've helped grant the wishes of fifteen hundred kids so far. get a new subaru and we'll donate two hundred fifty dollars more to help those in need. ♪ put a little love in your heart. ♪
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how is this roy moore stand-off going to end? with alabama's special election for senator jeff sessions' former seat less than a month away what are the ogss for the republican party? and what's the view from the ground? joining me, two perfect people to provide insights, alabama's secretary of state john merrill and former alabama gop chair john conners. i want to game it out, election day is 12-12, people are already voting by absentee. so there's no chance roy moore's name comes off that ballot in any scenario. right? >> no, sir. michael, our state law would have indicated that after the names had been confirmed by the state party on october the 11th, that when the ballots were printed, and were begun distribution on october 18th,
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within that 76-day window, there's absolutely no way that the ballot can be changed. it cannot be substituted for or removed from the ballot at that time. >> you could have a write-in candidate. has anyone, as far as you know, mr. secretary, won in alabama statewide as a write-in candidate? >> no, sir. to our knowledge we cannot find any indication of any candidate that's ever won statewide. we've had vijayal elections where write-in candidates have been successful. local county races, legislative races where that's occurred, but not statewide. we've had a lot of information, introduced to us about people who have an trinterest in write-ins. one of the things we'll do at the polls on election day to make the process simpler, is we'll have an information sheet and instructional sheet that will be available for their review. that will be on our website. they can download prior to their arrival at the polls. it will give them instructions
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on what they need to do if they wish to write in a candidate of their choice, other than the two that appear on the ballot. >> number three on my list list, does governor kay ivy have the right to postpone the election. >> a governmental proclamation from governor ivy can establish the date for a special election. that's not going to happen in this particular instance. primarily because people are already voting. voting has been under way for the military overseas voters for regular absentee voters that wish to participate. so the hundreds of ballots have already been cast in all 67 counties are out there and i know the governor does not want to interrupt that process by delaying the vote that will occur in 24 days. >> all right. here's scenario number four. and thank you for being so concise in your assessment. let's say that judge moore is elected to the u.s. senate. he gets to the senate and is expelled by a two-thirds vote.
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you folks in alabama still need to fill that seat. even if there's a temporary replacement. could judge moore then come back and run in whatever the next election might be? >> well certainly, i don't see anything that would disqualify him legally from being able to do that. i do find that scenario highly unlikely. but the rules of the senate would actually govern the seating of a new member. and the governance of the senate overall would determine that individual's ability to serve. >> mr. secretary i appreciate you being here to clear up discrepancies. to former alabama gop chair marty conners. mr. conners, latest poll if fox news shows that judge moore is behind his democratic opponent doug jones by eight points. does that comport with your gut feel from the ground? >> not even closely, as a matter of fact, i wouldn't trust any
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poll right now. >> really? >> first of all, i think the sample included way too many democrats. i don't believe any polls right now. the ground is totally fluid. >> i was wondering if perhaps the polling data might reflect a reverse bradley effect. if you follow me here. that if a pollster call as home in alabama, maybe the person is for judge moore. maybe they're half of the vote there is evangelical christians. you're not going to tell some stranger on the phone. it's suddenly so out of step -- so you lie. >> i saw that firsthand when i was going door to door in the northern neighborhoods of cincinnati, ohio. people who were voting for trump, the same weekend that the video came out. people who were voting for trump didn't want to say it. for multiple reasons. i guess some of it is they don't want somebody showing up at
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their door, they don't know what's going to happen next, they don't want to get labeled. you can get labeled for these kind of things and people don't like that. that's why i don't trust any polling whatsoever right now. >> is it fair to say that the moore folks from outside alabama tell alabama what they should do, they're probably benefitting judge moore. mch mcconnell, paul ryan. whoever it might be. you're going to bristle. i think i bristle at outsiders telling me how to vote in pennsylvania. >> that's true across the south and the western states in general. i mean just, just -- let us choose our own. swee don't need to adjudicate this in the "washington post" or cnn. i understand you have to do your job and you're doing a good job. but this is for alabama to decide. and ultimately we think that the people and not the media is the best jury. >> people forget and correct me
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if i'm wrong that judge moore when running successfully in that 2012 race for chief justice, only won by four points. he's never been rock-solid. is that true? >> that's not true, either. because it goes back to your turn-out models. he also enjoyed what was it, obama was running, was it? >> yeah, yeah. >> is you had tremendous african-american turn-out. you haven't this time. i don't know that you'll have the same money on the ground this time as the obama machine did. >> if judge moore should be successful this is a problem for the national gop in so far as in 2018, every democrat will link their opponent to judge roy moore. he will essentially become the running mate for every democrat running anywhere. >> i would agree with that. and i don't know that it will work, though. i mean keep in mind the conservatives and rural voters,
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traditional voters, and evangelicals are not limited to the state lines in the state of alabama. >> so you're there, you've got the credentials, where is this thing headed? >> well i tell you, the reason i don't know exactly where it's headed, i'll tell you what the strategy is. let's just take the whole issue of the accusers aside and talk about the horse race. i think from a democratic perspective what they're trying to do is to create enough confusion where they suppress let's say suburban republican voters. in other words, i'm not going to vote and that's i think what they're hoping to do. that's the part i cannot predict so if you wanted to do a real poll, i would try to get maybe focus group looking at republican voters about this issue. and the question is will some of them stay home. >> i understand you're giving me a political answer. but you don't expect that voters could keep out of their mind all of that investigative reporting
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from the "post"? whatever the source may have been, a broken clock is right twice a day. you've got to look at all the details in those tales, right? and say, something here. >> right. well that's true this is also what, four decade-old just breaking story. it's not like there's an actual piece of hard evidence and some of the evidence already has been proven questionable as you pull back the skin of the onion. but no, i'm not giving you a political answer. i'm giving you an honest political science answer and that is, the question is, what will suburban voters do? republican, will they vote for the continuation of tax reform? or the removal of obamacare? will they vote for continuation of a conservative supreme court? or will they sit at home? and that's the question i've yet to come up with an answer for. >> my hunch is that perhaps they should, but none of those things are going to matter as much as the allegations that have been leveled against them. you can have the final word.
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>> i would think just the opposite. i would think a lot of people are going to go to the polls and say i don't like this, i'm confused about this. but i haven't made a conclusion, therefore i'm going to vote to maintain control of the senate and a conservative supreme court. kennedy could be up for appointment or replacement here very, very soon. >> it just seems kind of odd that we should be -- well, for a different day. i was going to say, casting a ballot for a candidate who's underattack based on allegations because we want him to make a determination as to who should be on the supreme court of the united states is something not right there. >> didn't say that we would have him make that decision. we would say it would be a republican and a conservative majority make that decision. as opposed to a guaranteed liberal majority. >> marty conners, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> let's see what you're saying on my twitter and facebook
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pages. franken making a bad joke isn't the same as moore trapping a teenager in his car. carrie, naomi wolf's point, it's an unlawful act if in fact he forced himself upon her. i understand the distinction, i think they all need to be dealt with with consistency. i'm not saying they're all the same in their factual assertions, but they need to be looked at the same way and not through a partisan lens. another one? god has forgiven judge moore and he will forgive those who vote for him. grakle, i wish i could see your face as you're typing that. are you serious? still to come this week house democrats introduced five articles of impeachment, yet they don't have the votes. but impeachment's most public proponent is putting millions of his own into a national ad campaign. tom steyer is here. for the first time ever, the pentagon paid for a soldier's vaginoplasty, i'll talk to the plastic surgeon who performed
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the operation, dr. christine mcginn, herself transgender. excuse me a minute...
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when does a soldier undergoing an operation make national headlines? when that active-duty service member is having gender confirmation surgery and it's paid for by the pentagon, on donald trump's watch. remember, back in july and via a tweet, president trump announced he was reinstating a ban on transgender individuals from serving in the u.s. military. the president's ban caused my next guest to say -- right here on my program -- that if the government wouldn't provide for transsoldiers she would dr. christine mcginn, a former u.s. navy flight surgeon who herself is transgender offered to perform gender confirmation surgery on u.s. military for free. this week as she prepared to perform her third related surgery since her pledge, her patient got a surprise -- the pentagon said that it would
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shoulder part of the cost. this will be the first time ever that the government will have paid for a vaginoplasty. dr. christine mcginn is back with us. dr. mcginn, how surprised were you when you heard that news? >> i was pretty shocked, actually. so was the patient. very shocked. however, i think it just goes to show you that -- that the actual people that are day to day running the military want to support their troops. you know this was an effort put forth by the commanders locally to take care of their own troops. and it's gathered a lot of momentum. it's very exciting. >> the statement that was released by the pentagon in fact let's put it up on the screen. i want people to see what the pentagon said when announcing this. this afternoon an active-duty plilt member received a sex reassignment surgery. military hospitals do not have the surgical expertise to perform this type of surgery. therefore it was conducted in a private hospital. because this service member had
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already begun a sex reassignment course of treatment, says the statement, and the treating doctor deemed this surgery medically necessary, a waiver was approved by the director of the defense health agency, et cetera, et cetera. why was this medically necessary? you are the treating doctor, presumably, who deemed it medically necessary. explain that. >> well, that it makes it makes it sound like i'm the one that is is acting on my own. but this is really, this is an established protocol. you know i can't think of one medical organization in the united states that doesn't agree with that statement. that transgender care is medically necessary. and you know, when someone signs up to fight and die for our country, we provide them with health care you know, health care. and this is just another form of health care. it's not like somebody is getting, the military is not paying for a tattoo or a hair style this is health care. just like the military pays for
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the gi bill or a va loan. there are things that come as benefits with fighting for your country. and we need to take care of our troops. >> when i had this discussion and broke the news that you had shared with me on radio, there were more than one caller who had the mindset of saying i'm for getting rid of the ban that president trump seeks to reinstate. but why should american taxpayers pay for a vaginopla y vaginoplasty? and maybe you've just anticipated that question. but what is your answer to that? >> it's pretty simple. it's health care. we can't pick and choose what we're are going to provide for our military members based on political -- controversies. you know this is medicine. and there's science and there's facts. it doesn't take long to go -- i know this is hard for people to
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wrap their head around. but it's not just me acting like a rogue physician. this is, this is what is established by the community of professionals in this country and around the world, frankly. 18 other countries have had transgender service members in their military. some countries for 40 years. and it hasn't been such a political football as it is in this country. like i said earlier, there isn't one medical organization that is legitimate, that doesn't degree with that statement that transgender health care is considered a medically necessary benefit. which i think people get sick of hearing those words. but in plain english, it's a legitimate condition that is improved based on evidence through the treatment protocols that we use. >> dr. mcginn, when the president announced the ban via twitter. i want to put up on the screen one of the successive tweets
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that he put up and draw attention to his words. he said that it was due to tremendous medical costs. the victory cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs what is your response to him saying there's an enormous cost associated with welcoming transgender service personnel. >> i made this offer back in august because i knew that that was an inflated statement. and it might be based on ignorance. but since i'm in the field, i wanted to shed some light on it. and just, i offered on international television, that we would be doing surgery for free for these folks. and since, in two months, we've had 17 requests. that's all so for the entire united states military, 17 people are requesting surgery. we've performed three. and we plan on doing several more in the next couple of months and the costs even if the military pays for all 17, of
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those patients, the cost of the military is $100,000. when you compare that to all the other things like the viagra, program and in the military or trips to mar-a-lago, it is minute amount of money and if you want to talk about deployability if you take all of those 17 patients and see how many lost days of work it would be. it would be 500 lost days total for all 17 patients. so we've just taken care of every one who potentially wants this surgery that's an active-duty military member now for $100,000 and 500 lost days of work. compare that to -- >> thank you for coming back and closing the loop on this story. >> yeah, you're welcome. people need to hear it. >> still to come, this week a half dozen house democrats introduced articles of
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impeachment against president trump. as of now they don't have the votes, but billionaire tom steyer has been putting his money behind an impeachment movement. will he embolden the president's supporters or start a public movement?
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probably not at fox, though, which pulled them after it says its viewers complained. he spent $20 million so far on two pro impeachment ads. i recently spoke with tom steyer. so mr. steyer, let us talk article ii, section iv, treason, bribery, other high crimes and misdemeanors. which do you think apply? >> well michael, i think that there's no question that the president has obstructed justice. in his firing of the head of the fbi. which he said he did, because he persisted in the russian investigation. i think that he has broken the emoluments clause virtually on a daily basis. and i think that his public request for the justice department to do a criminal investigation of his political opponents is also a clear abuse
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of power. and that in effect, what the constitution says about impeachment is that the president cannot be allowed to violate his trust with the american people and the spirit of his office and he's clearly done that. >> i guess my question is, one of we need to make sure when we talk about impeachment that we're dealing with the objective, not the subjective. because you set a precedent, right? if you're reliant only on conjecture, in your case, it could be a democrat who is the next president. and if republicans have an antipathy toward that individual, they may say we see grounds for impeachment where they couldn't be proven. >> will i have a couple of things to say about that. one is he has committed these -- infractions, he's committed these acts in public. we don't need to go through the tapes of his phone calls. or the tapes of his emails.
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to see him do it because he's done it right in front of our eyes and he's admitted it. and the second thing i would say is this -- this president has committed un -- has put us in unprecedented danger. this is not a matter of policy or dislike of his health care or his taxes. or anything like that. this is a president who is a clear and present danger to the american people. i think everybody in washington, d.c., including members of his party recognizes that. i think members of his administration absolutely recognize that. and in fact, we're seeing senate republicans trying to take away his ability to unilaterally use nuclear weapons. because they know it's true. >> right. but in the ad i think the language you use is that he's brought us to the brink of nuclear war. but bringing us to the brink of nuclear war, if in fact that's accurate, that's not treason,
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that's not bribery. that's not a high crime or misdemeanor. some would argue that's the situation that he inherited from predecessors, who didn't do anything about kim jong un. >> well i think, michael, i see this as two different things. and i think you're conflating the two of them. one is has he met the criteria for impeachment. that was the first question you asked me and i referred to the emoluments clause and the obstruction of justice. the kind of things that meet the tritia for impeachment. the second question was you said well people could use this as a, a precedent. and i said actually, what he's doing not in terms of meeting the standards, which he clearly has met but in terms of the urgency for acting on this, his behavior, the danger that he's presenting to the american people, and to our democracy, is unprecedented. and i see that one is do you meet the criteria. and second, it is so urgent that
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we act on it because he is presenting unprecedented danger to the safety and health of americans and of our democracy. >> might you be helping him? might you be helping him in so far as the trump base sees your ads, the whole country can't help but see your ads. and they interpret your ads as your attempt to overturn a legitimate presidential election that we just had. and they therefore become emboldened in their support of donald trump? >> i think what we're trying to do, is not to be smart, not to make political calculations, about which segment of the population would this appeal to. which segment of the population would this annoy. but instead, we're trying to do something very different from that, michael. we're trying to do the right thing. and we're trying to do the moral
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thing. because we think it's important and we are not trying to figure out how the game is going to play out. because partly we don't think you can. we're really just focused on the idea that this is a danger to the health and safety of americans. and we're trying to give the american people the ability to speak up in their own defense, and say -- we really are scared by this man. we are extremely unhappy about his behavior and we need to get rid of him. >> a quick final question. fox won't run your ad. why did you spend the money there to begin with? >> i wasn't one of the people figuring out the ad strategy, but i've talked to them of course. let me say this. we placed that ad in media channels all over the country. hitting all different kinds of viewers. and fox has a very particular kind of viewer.
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and i think that the people who were placing the ad, wanted to make sure people saw the ad, got access to the information and knew there was a chance that the president would see the ad on fox and friends so he understands that the american people are speaking out against him directly. >> tom steyer, thank you so much. >> michael, thank you for having me. >> still to come, your best and worst tweets and facebook comments, like this like this o steyer rocks. trump's danger to the country is a topic of discussion. discuss discuss! i don't think he can meet the burden of the constitution. that's why i asked the questions i did. we'll come back in a sec. to find my next vacation. rome, show me something. i'm having breakfast at the pantheon. what an amazing view... of your finger.
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remember, if you ever miss this program, catch us any time on cnn go online and through connected devices and apps. follow me on twitter and facebook. here's some of what came in during the course of this hour. al franken and roy moore, apples and oranges, both fruits. no comment. next. it is remarkable that in a regular blue collar job an employee would be dismissed in a heartbeat if several women came forward with these accusations, if you're a politician like trump, for example, it appears the same rules don't apply. wendy, it seems like the higher you rise in some workplace or socioeconomic ladder, the more
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protection you seem to be afforded, and that's not right, and i am troubled by the idea that any public monies would have been paid to resolve any shenanigans on capitol hill. next. i would rather we pay for the surgery than pay for sexual harassment settlements in congress. tim keaney. dr. mcbegginn makes a point whe she says it is health care. another if we have time for it. smerconish, can't stand to watch 30 seconds of any show on @cnn. but i am impressed with your show today. i will continue watching. gang, have a wonderful thanksgiving week. make sure you come back next weekend. we'll be here on saturday as always. thanks for that.
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i am totally blind. and non-24 can make me show up too early... or too late. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. thanks for the ride-along, captain! i've never been in one of these before, even though geico has been- ohhh. ooh ohh here we go, here we go. you got cut off there, what were you saying? oooo. oh no no. maybe that geico has been proudly serving the military for over 75 years? is that what you wanted to say? mhmmm. i have to say, you seemed a lot chattier on tv. geico. proudly serving the military for over 75 years. you ok back there, buddy?
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we are live in the cnn newsroom. i am ana cabrera in new york. the curious case of jared kushner, the president's son-in-law facing accusations he hasn't been entirely forthcoming in the russia probe. it has to do with what was said or not said on wikileaks, the site that published things stolen from the clinton campaign. they're raising the possibility that kushner could have another date with congress. cnn bore is sanchez is live at the white house. break it down for us. >> reporter: according to a source familiar