needs to go forward in the military sphere. but it's important to remember what's at stake here. young children being put into we can't leave that alone. >> it's an important issue, and we can't let that go. i'm jim acosta. thank you for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news. trump's message, vote roy moore. the president siding with an accused child molester over a democrat. how's that america first slogan going? >> plus, roy moore in his own words. he said he first noticed his wife during a dance recital. according to him, that would mean she was a teen, he was ibt 30. the ininterior secretary under fire for his official travel. now question about his wife's travel. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, breaking news. trump's message, vote roy moore. the president backing roy moore for senate. making it clear that the

president of the united states stands behind an accused child molester for senate over a democrat. trump speaking out about moore for the first time since returning from his asia trip a week ago. here's the president leaving washington for mar-a-lago just a short time ago, spelling out why alabama should vote moore. >> i could tell you one thing for sure. we don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat, jones. i have looked at his record. it's terrible on crime. it's terrible on the border. it's terrible on the military. >> then, when asked directly if an accused child molester is better than a democrat, trump answered that question very matter of factually. >> well, he denies it. he denies it. he totally denies it. he says it didn't happen. >> in fact, in the course of a few-minute exchange with the press, trump reminded everybody that roy moore, quote, denies it, at least ten times. of course, forget the fact that at least eight women have come

forward to accuse moore, and dozens more, men and women, have corroborated their stories. it's clear that is not enough for trump. yet, remember this? he was very quick to believe the accusers when it came to bill clinton. remember this moment from last year's presidential debate just about a year ago in st. louis? trump held a predebate press conference, and there were three women who had accused bill clinton of sexual misconduct there. he brought them there. they sat there. he had them seated in the hall for the full debate. >> you can say any way you want to say it, but bill clinton was abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked those same women. and attacked them viciously, four of them are here tonight. >> well, trump believed those accusers. so he believes his enemy's accusers, but even as he's made it clear he's siding with moore over the women who say he harassed and assaulted them, he bragged that those very same women voted for trump. >> well, he denies.

roy moore denies it. >> what about the women? what about the nine women. >> he did say total denial. i have to say, 40 years is a long time. he's run eight races and this has never come up. 40 years is a long time. the women are trump voters. most of them are trump voters. >> jeff zelany is out front tonight. the president broke seven days of silence with a loud and clear statement. vote for an accused child molester over a democrat, or over staying home and not voting at all. >> erin, no question. and the president was beginning what is advertised by his aides to be a quiet thanksgiving week here. before he flew down, you saw him making those remarks. we tried to figure out what was going on inside the west wing to lead the president to make this, what really is an abrupt change. i am told by people close to the white house, erin, that one of the reasons is that all of the noise and confusion that has

really bubbled up over this tidal wave of accusations, from hollywood to politics to media, really was something that has changed the president's mind and got him to essentially back roy moore. this is something that's been going on for nearly two weeks now. and i am told that the president said it made it, quote, easier to stick with roy moore with all of these other allegations were happening, from some democrats, from some big named media figures as well here. now, the president made clear he stopped short of specifically endorsing roy moore. but left no question that he accepted his denials, certainly over the stories of these eight women here and moore. and even left open the door to possibly campaigning with him in the remaining weeks before that special election. and in the words of one other republican close to the white house, they said all of this noise and confusion has made it more difficult to find out who the bad guy is here. erin, so that is why we're told the president decided to weigh in here. and of course, they want to keep

that seat in republican hands for the tax bill and everything else. erin. >> put that bill over anything. all right, jeff, thank you very much. >> let's go to april ryan, white house correspondent for american urban radio networks. mark preston, and alice stewart, republican strategist. thanks to all. alice, let me start with you. look, the president saying it himself for the first time today. it had been clearly implied by his press secretary in recent days, but he had been silent. today, it was very clear. a republican. even one accused of molesting a child, is a better fit for the united states senate than a democrat. >> it's really disappointing, but clearly, the consensus and the mind set around the administration is that we can't afford to lose one seat in the senate, so let's put all of our energy behind roy moore. and the sentiment we heard from the president as well as kellyanne conway is we would rather have roy moore than a democrat. but talk to other republicans,

and myself included, i would much rather have a democrat than a pedophile in the u.s. senate. look, this comes down to what is right and what is wrong. when we have someone with all of these allegations and the president says 40 years is a long time, well it is, but there's no statute of limitations on the truth. in my view, the accusations from these women far outweighs the denials from roy moore. i think it's really important that we do what is right here and stand with someone that has principle as opposed to what is best for the party. i think this is a critical time to stand up and show leadership that we cannot accept someone with all of these allegations flowing out there. >> that's too bad moore isn't speaking as eloquently and with the leadership you are, alice. trump clearly is not doing that. he feels the tide has turned for moore because he was silent, he waited. obviously far from led on this. he waited. he let his prior endorsement basically stand, and now he's making it clear.

he's taking an accused child molim molester's side, no other way to put it. >> alhit on something that is very important. this could be a generational fight right now in the republican party. we already know the republican party is going through a whole transformation as we head further into the 21st century. the democratic party is as well. but the governor of alabama, a woman, has also said she will vote for roy moore, even though she believes the accounts of the women who have made these accusations. what i do think is interesting, in alabama specifically on saturday, the young republican federation of alabama, they withdrew, they suspended their endorsement of roy moore, and this is what they had to say. they say our duty is not to the individual candidate but to the long standing growth and sustainability of the republican party. so when you think of that, you have young republicans in bm bam right now that are looking to the future. donald trump, we should note, has not been a republican his whole life. and certainly is not beholden to the growth of the republican party. and clearly is not looking towards the future.

>> april, the president is saying you have to listen to moore. one person, against up to skith people who either accuse or corroborate the accusers. who are both male and female. he is saying this is because moore denies the accusations. here's the president. >> he totally denies it. he says it didn't happen. and you know, you have to listen to him also. >> all right, loud and clear. one man's word over dozens of men and women. just like he did, april, with his own accusers, of course. >> yeah. well, you know, i'm also struck by what the president said as well when he said, you know, roy moore has run several races, and this has never come up. but now is the time for women to speak. and their voices are very loud. the noise is actually deafening, and it's not necessarily noise, but this is now a morality thing. a morality issue. alice hit the nail squarely. it's about what's right over wrong. this makes me think of what

happened today, the reporter asked what about you? what about your allegations? he totally ignored that and kept talking about roy moore. he denied it. the president doesn't want to talk about this. the president wants to focus in on trying to get a legislative win with a possibility of roy moore, who is very much tainted right now. and think of it. the president's only had three wins since he was elected president-elect. since he won the election, to be president, one win against hillary clinton. now, gorsuch, the second win, and bringing the three ucla players win, but he's not had a legislative win. he's desperate for a legislative win to go beyond the brink to do this. >> alice, i want to play another exchange the president had today in reporters in light of what he is saying about believing roy moore. supporting roy moore. here he is. >> mr. president, what is your message to women? this is a pivotal moment in our nation's history. >> women are very special.

i think it's a very special time because a lot of things are coming out. and i think that's good for our society, and i think it's very, very good for women. and i'm very happy a lot of these things are coming out. and i'm very happy -- i'm very happy it's being exposed. >> i mean, putting aside, you know, his own situation, alice, he's saying this even today, as he's essentially calling all the women involved in the roy moore situation liars. >> well, erin, he's really not essentially calling them liars. he is calling them liars, actually, because he's discrediting all of these accusers out there. and that's really unfortunate. look, i agree with what ivanka said. there's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. at the same time, there's a special place in hell for people who support people who prey on children. look, at the end of the day, whether this white house supports him or not, the people of alabama have the right to choose who their senator will be. the polls indicate some internal

polls are indicating he does have a chance to win. and if that's the case, then the people of alabama should have him be their senator, but unfortunately, now is the time for us to get together and work hard to support a write-in candidate, someone who supports the views and values and character of the republican party. and it's important for us to get on that right now. it looks like right now the administration and some republicans will continue to stand behind moore, which in my view is really troubling. >> thank you all so very much. next, roy moore on when he first was struck by the woman who would become his wife. according to roy moore, she would have been 15 or 16 years old at that time. he was about 30. this is his own recollection. plus, breaking news. cbs reporting three more women have come forward with accusations against charlie rose. and more breaking news. a top democrat, the longest serving member of the house, now under investigation for sexual

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over allegations roy more pursued girls as young as 14 when he was in his 30s. his aides say they have no doubt he's telling the truth and all his accusers are liars. martin is in alabama. to say moore's campaign is doubling down, i think watching what we saw today would be a huge understatement. >> reporter: it would. i mean, this campaign really came up blasting. especially the two most serious accusers against roy moore. that's leigh corfman and beverly young nelson. corfman is the woman who said at 14 she was molested by moore. the campaign was trying to point out inaccuracies in the women's account. in the case of corfman, she said she talked to moore in the telephone in her room. the campaign cited an interview where her mother said her daughter didn't have a telephone in her room. beverly young nelson said she had been assaulted by moore near some trash dumpsters. the campaign said they talked with former employees who said it was a well lit parking lot

and trash dumpsters were on the side. here more from the event today. >> we believe judge moore. we don't believe these women. it's just that simple. and the question is can you be tricked. can you be tricked? because all hell is coming to alabama against judge roy moore. >> that was dean young, who is a consultant for roy moore, and he kept using that phrase over and over. alabamians don't be tricked. >> and martin, you know, today's incredible pushback from all of these three men came as we are learning more from roy moore. and this is in his own words, specifically about when his wife kayla first caught his eye years ago, and she was very young. >> right, this is all important because, of course, many of moore's supporters say they do not believe the words of his accusers. we decided to go at this from another direction, which is roy moore himself.

>> in 2005, roy moore published "so help me god" a book about his life in politics. this, by the way, is the opening of the audio version, which moore reads himself. it doesn't seem that long ago that i became a circuit judge in etowah county. >> he mixes controversial and political stands with personal stories. in chapter five, moore talks about attending a dance recital and being enthralled by a young performer. >> many years before i had attended a dance recital at gadston state junior college. i remembered one of the special dances performed by a young woman whose first and last names began with a letter k. it was something i had never forgotten. >> moore's describing when he first laid eyes on his future wife, kayle kisor, who he would eventually see again at a christmas party years later. >> i just immediately began with

a line, haven't we met somewhere before? and she replied, i don't think so. >> listen to moore tell the story again of the dance recital and the captivating young performer, this time in an interview this past summer. it includes a detail left out of the book, a timeframe. >> i remembered that, never did meet her there. i left and it was, oh, gosh, eight years later or something, i met her. and when she told me her name, i remembered kk. i said haven't i met you before. she was younger. she said i don't think so. >> when the couple married, he was 38 and she was 14 years younger. it's a marriage that appears to be holding strong. moore emphatically denies all of the allegations made against him and kayla is standing by her man. >> he is a loving father and a grandfather. most important, he is a christian. >> but moore's own story of how he came to know his wife seems to mirror his accusers' accounts

of an older man interested in younger teens. by his own words, moore's timeline suggests kayla was 23 when they spoke at that christmas party. but eight years or so earlier when moore was in his early 30s and captivated by her performance, kayla kisor was 15 or 16. there's nothing to suggest moore had any contact with kayla when she was a teen. but when moore was first drawn to her, she was the same age as beverly young, who has now come forward accusing moore of sexually assaulting her behind a restaurant where she worked. young was a sophomore then, seen in this yearbook photo. from the same high school and the same class of another young teen, kayla kisor. >> roy moore and kayla will celebrate their 32nd wedding anniversary next month. erin. >> all right, martin, thank you very much. that picture rather disturbing,

seeing those two young girls side by side. "outfront" now a member of the al.com editorial board and a vp at alabama media group, which includes all of the major papers. she's back with me, michelle holmes. they published an editorial. michelle, i want to give you a chance to respond to that report, and obviously, roy moore in his own words admitting he was enthralled by his future wife when she was just 15 or 16. he would have been about 30. that's disturbing to see, and these are his own words. >> thank you. i'm happy to respond to that. that is the work of kyle wit meyer, an alabama journalist at al.com, who put that timeframe together in a published column today. i think that's the kind of work that the press in alabama is doing. despite the press conference call today in which the roy moore camp said we're here to ask the kind of questions that

the press is not asking. we're here, we're asking these questions. my reporters for the most part are born and raised in alabama. they have been doing this work on the behalf of alabamians their entire adult lives. we're bringing out stories that matter. and this is certainly one of them. >> they matter a lot, michelle. the question is, do you think right now they are going to matter with voters when obviously you have the roy moore camp coming out as they had today, dean young one of them there, urging voters to think about moore over the thanksgiving holiday, calling all of this sort of a group from hell attacking roy moore, including media like yourselves, like us, including mitch mcconnell, including democrats. let me just play moore's friend dean. >> i want you all to think, judge moore that we have known for 25 years, are we going to be sold a bill of goods by mitch

mcconnell and the fake news? are we? are we that gullible? >> what do you think -- where do you think voters stand right now, michelle? >> i think the people of alabama are kind and generous and smart. i think the people of alabama are rejecting this, seeing through this. now the voter turnout is a different story. and this really comes down to who gets out to the polls. >> that obviously is going to be the crucial question. thank you for being with us. and for sharing all of your incredible work. thank you, michelle. >> thank you. and next, breaking news. charlie rose fired, and now three more women are coming forward with sexual harassment allegations against the veteran journalist. and breaking news, the longest serving member of the house under investigation for a sexual harassment case he settled, which leaders in congress knew

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with allegations of sexual misconduct against charlie rose. this time, female employees at cbs, according to a cbs report tonight. cbs, pbs, and bloomberg all severing ties with the veteran journalist less than a day after

he was accused by eight women of harassment and assault in a "washington post" report. the disturbing stories ranged from inappropriate phone calls to groping, showering, walking around naked in front of the women. rose was caught on camera briefly last night. he seemed to not accept responsibility for his actions as he arrived at his new york city home. >> you want to say anything to those accusers that are accusing you? you want to say anything to the accusers, the people accusing you of the wrongdoings? >> cnn senior media analyst brian stelter is out front. what can you tell us about the three new accusers we're hearing about at this hour? >> these are wrongdoings, despite what rose said in that clip. cbs is confirming they received new information today about three employees at the news organization who have come forward anonymously and described inappropriate behavior, inappropriate sexual contact and innuendo from charlie rose. he has been the co-host of cbs this morning for the past five

years. earlier today, the other two hosts of the show, norah o'donnell and gayle king addressed the scandal win their own building. >> this is a moment that demands a frank and honest assessment ubwhere we stand and more generally, the safety of women. let me be very clear. there is no excuse for this alleged behavior. it is systematic and pervasive. >> i'm really struggling because how do you -- what do you say when someone that you deeply care about has done something that is so horrible? how do you wrap your brain around that? i'm really grappling with that. that said, charlie does not get a pass here. >> at lunch time today, cbs terminated his contract effective immediately. now, the questions are the same we asked about harvey weinstein and other powerful men accused of predatory behavior. who knew what and when did they know it? >> that's is now the crucial question we're asking as more people come forward.

thank you so much, brian. "outfront" now, irin carmon, one of the reporters who broke the story in "the washington post," and hln anchor on the story, erica hill, she was the co-anchor on cbs this morning for six months. i have known charlie for a decade. he was professional with me. i was disgusted to hear about the women's experiences we're learning about in all of this reporting. erica, you anchored with charlie. you sat next to him every day. what was your reaction when you heard this news, when you saw the story? >> you said disgusted. that's how i felt. i saw this cross yesterday and everything stopped. your reporting was amazing and so detailed. and my blood started to boil, i have to be honest. i felt terrible for these women who have been put through everything they were describing. and i was frustrated, i think, in many ways, too, by a culture that has allowed this to happen for so long. a culture across the board in so many industrieser as we saw. it was deeply disturbing to me that this had happened, and also, if you read into the

report, it's not just about these allegations they have of the sexual misconduct, but it's the talk of the power. i think that's something we have all seen. and i think it's something we see a lot as women, especially with older men. this sense of no one will question me because i'm in this powerful position. and people look up to me. and i'm going to wield that power over you. and it makes you think back to the 20 past years of your career, and did i maybe misinterpret something or let something slide when i shouldn't have? >> and that's the question. i mean, what was your experience working with charlie? >> charlie was professional towards me, as you say. he did not lay a hand on me. he was not inappropriate physically. are there comments i look back on and think, that's really not okay to say those things to someone? yes. and it's not just charlie, i want to say. this isn't something we routinely talk about because we all go about our lives. we go about our business, but it's an important conversation we're having more and more. so in no way does any comment

that i have ever been on the receiving end of equate to the horrors that a lot of these women have described. but there's also a point where you have to say, it's not okay to make inappropriate sexual jokes to someone sitting on set. >> no, it isn't. you're right. as you point out, there is a spectrum. but just because one thing is worse does not mean the other thing is therefore okay. right? now irin, since you broke this story, what has happened? >> well, it was swift. he was suspended from cbs. he waw suspended from bloomberg. bloomberg has ceased to carry his pbs show. most of the allegations, all the allegations we reported on here took place at pbs show, so we're now focusing on what's happened at cbs. cbs, of course, fired him this morning. this has moved quickly, but i should say these kinds of stories don't move quickly. relatively speaking for an investigation, the three weeks that we were working on this piece, two and a half to three

weeks, was quite swift. it normally takes a long time to get people to talk about these kinds of experiences. >> but that's changed -- i know you first heard about this years ago. >> i first heard about this in 2010, and i partnered with amy britain to report on it, but things have progressed in the last 24 hours with terrifying speed. terrifying to keep up with what is happening because we're in this new moment. >> i want to play for you again charlie rose when he arrived at his home, saying there were no wrongdoings. that was hiresponse. that's all we heard from him. let me play it again. >> you want to say anything to those accusers that's accusing you. you want to say anything to the accus accuser, the people accusing you of wrongdoings. >> it's not wrongdoings. >> not wrongdoings. >> not wrongdoings. it's incredible to me, the filters that people have used over the years. and i think the filter that many of us are now using to look at certain events. i think we can all agree that what you reported on would certainly, as brian said, too,

would rise to the occasion of wrongdoings, and i think it's also interesting, i think nora and gayle did a wonderful job in a really difficult situation this morning addressing this. and nora made the point this is systemic and she's right. when people say they're not wrongdoings and it's been going on for decades in an industry, that's part of the problem. >> this was not the first statement we got from charlie. we had a statement in our piece where he talked about, he admitted he felt regret over some of these incidents. he challenged some of the allegations, although we did give him an opportunity to respond to them line by line before our story was published. we told him everything, there were no surprises in terms of what was going to be published, including the three women who went on the record to describe some of this behavior, and he did not challenge that directly. he did say at a certain point in that statement that he thought he was acting out of shared interest, which very much differs from what the women told us. >> and to your point, i think goes back to the whole point of power and how it can be abused, and how perception can be so

very different. the power in and of itself is a warping thing when it comes to something like consensuality, as you point out. thanks so very much to both of you. next, breaking news. robert mueller's investigators now looking at jared kushner's interaction with foreign leaders during the transition. one involved a dispute at the united nations, according to a "wall street journal" report breaking this morning. >> and a sexual harassment complaint against a top democrat settl settled quietly in 2015, only now becoming public. why? remember how the economic crash

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breaking news. the house ethics committee now investigating the longest serving member in congress. think about that for a moment, after a report of sexual harassment allegations surfaced. this hours after democratic congressman john conyers confirmed a report he settled a wrongful dismissal complaint in

2015 with a former staffer but denied other allegations such as he repeatedly made sexual advanced to female staff. a statement from conyers reads in part, and i quote, is it important to recognize that the mere making of an allegation does not mean it is true. my office resolved the allegations with all expressed a denial of liability, in order to save all involved from the rigors of protracted litigation. jerry nadler sits on the house judiciary committee. you have served with congressman conyers for nearly 25 years. so you know him. you have seen him in professional environments. he says that a settlement doesn't mean anything. it was done to move this along because he didn't want a protracted legal issue. do you believe him? >> first of all, let me say it's very important that women are speaking out now. and bringing all these allegations about many, many people to the front. the outpouring of the stories comes from the lack of justice and from the fact that i think the dam finally has broken. that is very, very good.

now, the allegations against john conyers are very serious. and they're not just about the one settlement. there are a lot of allegations from a number of different people. and they're very, very serious. and that, and shocking, and that's why i was among the first this morning to call for an investigation by the ethics committee and for passage of legislation such as the aspire bill to make the process less intimidating to people and more transparent. i think it's very important. these cases are different, one from the other, and you can't generalize, but it's important to have a proper investigation quickly. >> congressman mike quigley has come out and gone further. he has said if he was in his place, mr. conyers' place, he would leave. should he resign? >> well, i think it's a little too early to say that. i mean, mr. conyers has denied all the allegations. and i think it will very swiftly become clear what the facts are.

and i think we should wait a little while before you make that conclusion. >> congressman quigley pointed to the fact that mr. conyers used his own resources, raised access to funds within his office to make the settlement payments instead of going through an official process. he said that specifically concerns him greatly. do you share that concern? >> i am concerned about that. it is apparently legal to do, which doesn't make it right. but it's one of the things the ethics committee has to look at and one of the things the legislation that we're supported would specifically outlaw. but i think we should wait a few days, certainly, before jumping to conclusions. >> so, you know, the thing about putting it to house ethics. i understand that. that's the mechanism you have, right? however, it often results in a sort of slap on the wrist. the last time someone was expelled from that was for bribery racketeering, democratic congressman in 2002. that's a long time ago. do you -- do you worry that

saying house ethics is a bit of a punt at this point? >> no, i don't think it's a bit of a punt. first of all, it is the only choice we have, number one. >> other than calling for an outright resignation, which you're not ready to do. >> which we're not ready to do yet. i think we have to be fair and let the defense come out as well as the allegations. and i think it's going to work itself -- i think the whole thing is going to work out very, very rapidly. >> donald trump today was asked specifically about whether congress needs to open up the records. there's been $15 million in settlements paid out for various forms of discrimination. in congress. we don't know who was involved in those payouts. the president thinks congress should put those names out there. here he is today. >> do you believe congress should release the names of lawmakers who have settled on sexual harassment claims? >> i do. i really do. i think they should.

>> do you agree with him? >> no, i don't. because i certainly think that all settlements, if any, should be public going forward. i think they were wrong to do it the way they did, but you may very well have people who thought that -- who were innocent but thought better get a settlement than go through protracted litigation. >> and expected it to stay private and wouldn't have made that decision. >> and it would be unfair unless you're going to give hem the opportunity to defend themselves now, if you wanted to reopen it and do the whole thing over again, that would be a different question. i introduced legislation two years ago to say that all settlements in court, very often, someone sues a corporation for an unsafe practice or whatever, and there's a settlement and they get $100,000 or whatever, but you have to be quiet so the corporation can continue being unsafe the next time. my legislation, which unfortunately, the republicans haven't permitted to advance, says that the judge must determine that all settlements, that all confidentiality agreements are in the public

interest. >> w before woe go, the "wall street journal" reporting that mueller's team is asking about kushner's contacts before the election. how significant could that be? >> we know he has lied incessantly from the beginning. he lied on his forms for -- >> security clearance. >> security clearance forms. he lied about not having meetings with the russians. he's lied incessantly. he's been one of many people on the trump campaign who has lied incessa incessantly. we know there's tremendous collusion, whether there was criminal conspiracy remains to be seen, but there was tremendous collusion, certainly we now know, wean wikileaks and the russian government and the trump campaign. and jared kushner seems to have been at the middle of it so this could be very significant. >> thank you very much, congressman. i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. next, what is it about cabinet secretaries' wives and travel. new questions about the interior secretary's wife and trips she's

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involvement in his schedule. with her helping decide who attends some official events and clearly expecting the staff to heed her commands. ugh, an e-mail reads to the last minute change by lola zinke with another note adding, everything was clinking, and all now shot to hell. >> thank, it's great to be here. you know, i'm glad to have my wife next to . the department says his wife has paid for all trips for the events. she asked for a military plane home but ended up flying commercial. and her husband has rounded rejected accusations that he may have used tax dollars for political and personal travel. >> i'd like to address, a little bs on travel. >> reporter: but as investigations continue into the travel of several cabinet members, some other spouses are

also being skrut fiezed. cabinet secretary mnuchin and his wife had requests made and withdrawn for a european plane to take them on their honeymoon. they too insist all the travel was legit and tax payers put in no inappropriate bill. a recent photo op with a sheet of new dollars did nothing to quiet the storm. >> what were you thinking? >> again i didn't realize the pictures were the public and going on the internet. >> reporter: tom price came under fire for his use of private and military jets sometimes with his wife betty tagging along. none of it pleased hi boss. >> i'm not happy okay, i can tell you i'm not happy. >> reporter: price pledged to repay the money but the uproar ended with his resignation.

>> tom, when you see this it seems the spouses are a small part of the problem but yet they are drawing so much attention. >> yeah, because it's bad optics that's why. there's no question in many times in politics and business, spouses can travel along and add to the effectiveness of the main character in that relationship. if they start going along too often those business trips start looking suspiciously like vacations, especially for watchdog groups. they start paying attention. and with all this swirling around the trump administration that's exactly what's happening here. erin. >> tom thank you. a child soldier shot in the chest risks his life to fight four isis. telling his story. what happens to them now. whether it's connecting one of the world's most innovative campuses.

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new tonight, a cnn exclusive, child shoulders trained -- soldiers trained to fight for isis. now what happens? do they keep fighting, look for other radicals or turn their back on terror? >> reporter: honey is the youngest of the class.

he said he ran away from home to join isis about a year-and-a-half ago when he was 13 or maybe 12, he's not sure. he's sheep ish, try and shame to verbalize what they was feeling. their lecture which don't want to be filmed is dissected -- as part of a recommendatihabilitat program. [speaking foreign language] >> reporter: honey is categorized as level two, an active fighter. says his mind was blank the first time in battle. [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] >> reporter: a unit of children, teens at best used as cannon fighter on isis front line. they'd get taken to a fight and

told which direction to shoot. honey was wounded within a day. the bullet went through his chest and out his armpit. [speaking foreign language] >> reporter: again, within days he was shot, this time through the leg. [speaking foreign language] >> reporter: at the syrian center for anti-extremist ideology he was with other isis members, battle hard and fighters and level three detain flees, the northern fighters most from central europe and eastern asia. the wives of the foreigners live in the same compound along with their children. little ammi dah was born in

iraq. her mother says she have no idea what they were getting into. she's russian born in ukraine. her husband is from key yaf, a conference in islam and they ended up in telefar where he was assigned with a russian speaking unit. her husband's claimed he's turned away from isis and its twisted beliefs, by behind bars they both say the same thing. he was once a kid that just loved history and geography. he still has the demeanor of a child, one who regrets his actions and very desperately want to be a part of a world that accepts him. the central leaders say it's the isis ideology that is the most dangerous. it's gripped on a person's sigh

psyche more frprofound. but, erin the leaders say they have to try. if they don't what hope is there from syria's future. >> thank you from syria tonight. thank you for joining us. john berman in for anderson cooper and ac 360 begins right now. trump/moore 2017. we begin tonight keeping them honest, the president of the united states of america is backing a candidate who's accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl. now we know. we pretty much knew last night. this time he said it out loud with records repeatedly with added touch seeming to request the memories of sexually a