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people will be talking about at thanksgiving later this week. >> it's a very different picture when charlie rose is out less than 24 hours. thank you so much. that is all for us on "360." special report, "twitter and trump" starts right now. it is a marriage of man, message, and machine unlike any other ever. >> i sit there at 3:00 in the morning, ding, ding, ding. you know. our country is going to hell. we must stop it. >> i wake up every day and laugh at the latest thing donald has tweeted because he's losing it. >> do you think donald trump could have won this election without tw without twitter? >> nope. m. cuban swings like a little
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girl with no talent. mark's a loser. >> why do shows have ana? she's a loser. >>. other times it is his shield. >> this is the single greatest witch hunt. >> witch hunt, witch hunt. >> but what happens to america when this man enters this office and puts a finger on this button? >> if donald trump implodes, it will be because of twitter. >> how will history remember the age of twitter and trump? these are the collected tweets of donald j. trump, volume 1. we had them printed and bound as a physical reminder that his digital words are the sign of our times.
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and will be studied for centuries. these are his tweets since he declared his run for the 45th president of the united states. his ever-expanding new testament, if you will. but the genesis of this story begins tens of thousands of tweets ago. >> and here to present the top ten list of the celebri"celebri apprentice" donald trump. >> way back in 2009 when his tweet was a plug to make him watch david letterman. >> sell north dakota north dakota to the chinese. >> what's remarkable is on that day, only four people react to it. only four people react to what's arguably the most important influential social media account ever. >> number two, we're screwed.
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>> fitting because that tweet marked a real low point. he was coming out of bankruptcy again. "the apprentice" was in a deep ratings slump. and his father raised him to believe that the only thing worse than bankruptcy is obscurity. >> fred trump actually dropped leaflets out of airplanes to draw people to the apartments that he had for rent. >> the twitter of the era, right? >> that was the drop a message out of an airplane. trump was a master of the pseudo news event. >> in the truth about trump, the foamily describes how we would work the press to create an image of success. >> you could send out a press release and it would say fred trump has announced that he's sold 50% of the properties in a new development. and it would actually get in the
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paper. >> as the son set out to conquer manhattan, he borrowed dad's tricks, included telephone alter egos names john baron or john miller. all the better to call reporters and sing the praises of the donald. >> i thought it was kind of creative on his part. he didn't have a big staff. he sort of made it look like his staff was bigger by having all these representatives and also he could say things about donald that would be outrageous if he were saying it about himself. >> why wouldn't someone like yourself run for political office? you have all the money that you possibly need. you've accomplished a great deal even though you are only 34. >> because i think it's a very mean life. i would love and i would dedicate my life to this country, but i see it as being a mean life and i also see it that somebody with strong views and somebody with the kind of views that are maybe a little bit unpopular, which may be right, but may be unpopular, wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody with no great brain but a big
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smile. >> excuse me, where's the lob sne. >> down the hall and to the left. >> even when the balance sheet was bloody red, he carefully nourished the image of success. even as he shifted from buildings to branding and in 2002 that image brought him a call from the founding father of reality tv. the pitch, survivor in the jungles of manhattan. fred trump would have loved it. america would have loved it. those first few seasons were must-see tv. but the definition of must-see was about to change and media was in for a seismic shift. 2006, just as season five of "the a prpprentice" was fallingt of the top 50, jack dorsey sat down and typed i'm just setting up my twitter.
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>> i have fie90 followers at th moment. so 90 people are watching what i'm doing. >> what started as an idea to send short messages to a network of friends grew into the newest stran strand of social media and then exploded the day michael jackson died. >> and for the first time we see more than 100,000 tweets in an hour. that's a sign that this is a space that people are going to break and talk about news. >> this new tool captured the imagination of online marketers. >> back in 2009, i was working for a publishing company, including the man tasked with finding new ways to promote donald trump's new book. >> they say we don't really understand this, so you're the expert, why don't you explain it. >> they set up a meeting with the boss where peter explained the basics to the billionaire and then mentioned one hitch. an imposter had already claimed the handle@donald trump.
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>> that's when i suggested we call him @real donald trump and i remember he nodded because he really liked the sound of that. >> despite the pitch for authenticity, peter ran the account. he's the author of that david letterman plug. and most of the early tweets were just aspirational quotes they copied from trump's books. >> one of the early tweets that i had posted i have right here was my persona will never be that of a wall flower. i'd rather build walls than cling to them. >> eight months later, trump takes over his own tweeting and right away shows off his grand ambition with a t yirksypo and website. how are factories supposed to compete with china and other countries? dot, dot, dot. >> he doesn't reveal in social media that the website has actually been set up by a vis
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president within the trump organization. >> why do you think he ran for president? >> both the president and his son donald junior have told me we're genetically superior and he assumed he would be best at the job. the other thing is he was furious with barack obama. >> no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. >> his animous was based not only on politics but about the president's jokes about him mercilessly at the 2011 correspondent's dinner. >> that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. like did we fake the moon landing. what really happened in roswell
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and where are biggie and tupak. >> and trump is sit tlg trying -- sit tting there trying to te it and you can see he's miserable and soothing. you can kind of notice this is going too far. >> president trump disputes the theory that this is the moment he decided to run. but a few weeks later, he began using twitter to attack obama and a barrage would follow. he tweeted the birther conspiracy more than 60 times before finally admitting the truth. in 2012 it didn't seem to matter. barack obama easily won reelection and the very next day at about 2:00 in the afternoon trump tried a new line. we have to make america great again. few people noticed. even today it has less than 1,500 likes. but that tweet would mark a turning point in american history. because what came next changed
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think he is. most overrated politician in u.s. history. >> rosie is crude, rude, obnoxious and dumb. other than that, i like her very much. >> i have never seen a thin person drinking diet coke. >> truly weird, senator rand paul of kentucky. >> reminds me of a spoiled brat without a properly functioning brain. >> every time i speak of the haters and losers, the haters and losers, the haters and losers, i do so can great love and affection. they cannot help the fact that they were born [ bleep ] dumb. nice. >> by the time donald trump wrorode an escalator into history, he had spent five years -- >> it's an asset. i tweet well. >> as much as they tried, his rivals look like they brought a knife to a gunfight. >> this is a tough business to run for president. >> you're a tough guy. >> we need to have a leader. >> real tough.
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>> we went back and looked at jeb bush's most popular tweets. >> he had a popular tweet. >> he had a few. he had one that got nearly 35,000 likes with just a picture of his gun. do you remember that? >> no. which tells you everything you need to know, right? i mean, jeb's tweets were frankly not very memorable. >> you called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. your twitter account -- >> only rosie o'donnell. >> with every insulting quip and tweet, the establishment assumed he'd finally gone too far. >> he's losing it. we need a commander in chief. not a twitterer in chief. >> but each of those moments convinced one man in northern california that donald trump could not lose. >> hey, scott. >> how are you? come on in. >> this is beautiful. >> thanks. >> the house that dilbert built.
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>> scott adams is the creator of a comic strip, an empire of books, toys, and calendars although he admits his speaking engagements have taken a hit since he began praising president trump on twitter. >> you were one of the few public people in america who saw this election coming long before anybody else. >> right. >> how? >> so, i have a background in hip nose sis. i've been interested in persuasion in all its forms for years. in donald trump i saw the set of persuasion tools that i had been collecting over the decades. he lists trump's fame, height, and unflinching brassness among those tools along with his infamous negotiating style. >> i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters. >> and what is it about his
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cadence, his co cab la-- vocabu all of that that makes him successful? >> it's a whole bunch of things. the fact that it has to be brief to be in a tweet works to his favor. >> like a cartoon in many ways. >> likewise, i am very successful on twitter because i know how to make short funny sentences. he knows as a persuade or, someone trained in the ways of persuading, that simple is always more persuasive than complicated. if we can understand it, we're more likely to say yeah, that sounds right. we'll build a wall and there won't be so many people coming in taking our jobs. now you have jobs. he keeps it simple. he keeps it visual. he seems to care about the things i care about. did he get some facts wrong? yeah. do i care? no, not at all. i don't care a bit. >> not letting facts get in the way of a good story is a huge advantage. especially when railing against
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the sitting president with a more careful demeanor. >> how much did you agonize over a barack obama tweet? >> there was a day where he wanted to put out a series of tweets on gun control. and he was looking for statistics to use to make sure they were accurate. and that took several iterations. >> but there were a system of checks and balances. >> absolutely. just as there were for any statement the president gave or any speech he delivered. >> meanwhile, raw, unfiltered trump was pushing america's buttons at the speed of light. >> it does gives you a tremendous amount of power. >> after years of reality television, he oon thunderstood the audience loves conflict. >> if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? >> in the campaign, during the whole cycle, he never attacked anybody. >> dan met trump as a teenage
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caddy. then years later dropped everything to run social media for the campaign. >> the trump train is all here, right. >> from his point of view, every harsh tweet was justifiable self-defense. >> he never attacked anybody in the sense of where he started. it was always the opposing campaign throwing punches at donald trump. and if you're going to throw punches at donald trump, be prepared. not only does it get him fired up, it fires up everybody around him. >> one of my hobbies is next analysis and donald trump's twitter posed a really interesting text analysis challenge. >> david is a harvard and princeton educated scientist to realize official campaign tweets from scovino were different from donald trump's personal tweets. >> the ones coming from trump were angrier? >> yes. look at the words that are most likely to be from the android
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and from the iphones. ones like badly, crazy, weak, spent. >> joke. >> dumb. yeah. ones where he was insulting someone. >> his jabs were often so shocking you didn't even have to follow him on twitter to see every blow. >> while most of us were sleeping, an overnight tweet storm that has washington buzzing. >> it's like owning "the new york times" without the losses. and what's amazing about the social media with mr. trump, we can be on a plane going somewhere and he can want to get a message out, a strong message. it's on cnn five minutes later. mr. trump loves communicating. he's a communicator. >> please welcome the president of the united states. >> in a world filled with so much doubt and suspicion, it was
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a perfect storm. man, message, and machine. but using twitter to campaign is one thing. how would a president trump use it to govern? university counts on centurylink to keep their global campus connected. and why a pro football team chose us to deliver fiber-enabled broadband to more than 65,000 fans. and why a leading car brand counts on us to keep their dealer network streamlined and nimble. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. another day at the office. why do you put up with it? believe it or not you actually like what you do. even love it. and today, you can do things you never could before. you're working in millions of places at once with iot sensors.
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did you know that george washington hated public speaking? in fact, one senator that was here said our founding father would have been more comfortable facing enemy muskets than friendly americans. thomas jefferson much preferred the written word. when 10,000 showed up for jackson a inaugural, all he could do was shout. >> they had no microphones, so you couldn't project to the back. people would pass on what they said. he said -- so it went all the way back. >> the early retweet. >> that's exactly right. >> but as communication evolved, the presidents we remember took existing tools and made them their own. teddy roosevelt courted
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cartoonists in a whole new way. fdr spoke into a radio microphone like no president before. >> it became mandatory listening. and everybody would lean forward and hear what the president had to say. >> and while true man and eis eisenhower were the first on tv, jfk and reagan are considered the best. >> the president of the united states tweeting new criticism. >> this was delivered on twitter. >> president trump tweeted this. >> which brings us to number 45. >> i'll do it verbally. i'll do it on television. i'll do it on twitter. >> i got to talk to donald trump at mar-a-lago about books and he just doesn't read them. he has no interest in them. i talked to him about president history. he's never read a presidential biography.
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>> we had tremendous success on "the apprentice." >> what he rifts off of is recent tv. >> one of the world's greatest heroes, ronald reagan. >> he's interested in ronald reagan because he remembers it. he's interested in john f. kennedy because he remembers it. anything past that donald trump has zero attention span for. >> he's not alone, of course. as media got faster, the american attention span got shorter. which gives rise to a leader not trained in policy or politics, but tabloid headlines. >> billionaire boy wonder donald trump is learning a new deal. divorce. >> beauty pageants. >> the big man on campus, donald trump. >> and reality tv. >> you're fired. you're fired. you're fired. >> donald trump has created a persona. when we're getting now as president on television all the time is the persona because he's so dramatic, so volatile.
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he's a villain of a very large kind wto most people in america. he's the ultimate hero to another group. and so i'm afraid we're living in a time where a persona president that doesn't even know his real self is kind of role playing what a president would be while we're watching a reality tv as our american political theater. >> are you going to be tweeting whatever you're upset about, just put out there when you're president? >> it's a modern form of communication. i'm going to do very restrained -- >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> some hoped that the twitter habit would end after he won. >> this is also lies. joy behar who was fired from her
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last show for lack of ratings was even worse on the "the view". >> months after the win it became obvious the insults and obsession with ratings would not stop. >> first of all, i wasn't fired from my last job. i was working at current tv. al gore decided to sell the station. so he's lying. >> what did you -- what was your reaction when you read that tweet? >> i said good. i love to be on an enemy's list. >> nixon's list was secret. but with twitter, you see this president's enemies list grow in real time. many wondered if they should be taken as official statements. >> the president is the president of the united states, so they're considered official statements by the president of the united states. >> a favorite target by far. >> i want to find a friendly reporter. >> are the men and women who covered him. >> donald trump rants and raves. i'm not ranting and raving. i'm just telling you you're dishonest people. >> all presidents complain about
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the press. usually in private correspondence, maybe in one occasional outburst. donald trump has made it his red meat. >> he likes to be emotionally compatible with the public. so where the public would have said hey, i'm not sure i trust the news sources or maybe i trust this one and not these, he wouldn't full fake news. >> what's the cost of that, though, you think, ultimately? or is there one? >> i think the cost is he became president of the united states. >> you are attacking our news organizations. >> he turns a lot of reporters through his bile towards them, they become targets. >> where are you from? >> bbc. >> here's another beauty. quiet. quiet. >> can you give us a question? can you give us a question? >> i'm not going to give you a question. >> reporters start getting hate mail. it's like he sends a posse out
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on them. >> the president of the united states called me fake news and on the day he called me fake news somebody went on my wikipedia page and change today to say that i had died that day. that i had died on january 11th, 2017. that had to be taken down. i turned off my twitter notifications because it became sort of this open sewer of hatred and contempt. i didn't choose for that to happen. here's the question. what do we do about this? do we just take it? do we not say anything? >> to his supporters, attacking the messager is a feature. an access feels authentic. >> trump tower is right behind us. in a politically correct world. >> i don't think americans want him off twitter. i think they are enjoying it. i think it actually goes back to wrestling and the beauty contests and "celebrity
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apprentice" reality tv where he kind of knows what people want to hear. i think it's unbelievable that you can be on a subway, you can be at dinner, you can be waiting in a doctor's office and you see the same message from the president of the united states that world leaders are getting. it's a profound thing. >> i think if donald trump implodes, it will be because of twitter. he never uses e-mail. he's been very cagey as a business person. twitter, he can get drunk on it and that could become his achilles heel. reckless use of twitter could cause him to go down in the end because at some point he may very well say something that has consequences leading towards impeachment or showing illegal tee -- illegality. >> a tweet too far. a tweet too far. illegalif
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>> statesmen, soldiers, spies all gather to talk, terror weapons and war. >> john brennan most recently served for four years at the cia director. >> one of the main topics at this year's aspen security forum is the insecure behavior of president trump. >> this is what he said in a tweet, and i'll let both of you respond. intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to leak into the public. one last shot at me. are we living in nazi germany. >> these types of comments are just dis graceful. never should have happened. >> american intelligence sounded the first warning of russian meddling a month before the election. but it was buried by coverage of this. >> grab her by the [ bleep ]. >> after he won, the hacking story gained steam.
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and the president-elect deflected on twitter praising putin's russia and mocking american intelligence. for the man in charge of that intel community, the nazi comparison made blood boil. >> prompted me to call him. what did i have to lose? i had nine days left. but i couldn't let that reference pass. that was a terrible insulting affront. not to me or john or any of the seniors, but i'm talking about the rank and file people in the trenches, men and women, the patriots in the intelligence community, and that was completely inappropriate. >> but the president-elect described their call much differently. james clapper called me yesterday to announce the false and fictitious report that was illegally circulated, made up. phoney facts. too bad. he has continued to bash his own spy services at home. >> the fbi has been in turmoil.
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you know that. i know that. >> and abroad. >> i remember when i was sitting back listening about iraq. weapons of mass destruction. they were wrong. and it led to a mess. >> but former spy chief michael haden says these insults aren't even the main concern. >> when it comes to american adversaries in pyongyang or moscow, following donald trump on twitter, what worries you the most? >> if i'm the head of a hostile or even friendly intelligence service, i've got a new office over here. follow that account. tell me what this man is saying. it's tremendously revealing. we know the president's hot buttons. we know his vulnerabilities. we know what upsets him. we know what he demands from his subordinates. we even know his sleep patterns based upon his twitter usage. that's a tremendous gift to a foreign power. >> all of those things somebody
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like vladimir putin say takes great pains to hide. >> of course. because you don't want to advantage the other guy. >> while lashing out at the "washington post," this tweet declassified a top secret operation to arm syrian rebels. intentional or not, it's the kind of revelation that makes jaws drop in the capitals of the enemies and allies. >> i can guarantee you that there are lace iaison services work with us who have probably decided to do a little self-editing and have said we just don't know what he's going to do. >> they're withholding valuable information from the u.s. out of fear that he might tweet it. >> i believe that's probably happening. >> can i ask if you voted for him? >> i did. reluctantly, but i did vote for him. >> davis hanson is a conservative historian and scholar. while the president's twitter habit pains him, he's hopeful it
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is just trump's art of the deal. >> it's a matter of style. and being unpredictable and mad, if it's controlled, and it's controlled by sober and people like mattis and mcmaster, maybe tillerson as well, then it reminds me sort of, i don't know if you're old enough to remember, but when nixon dealt with the veet na mees, but kiss i think jury was the good cop and he would go over to all the entities and say nixon is just out of control. he may bomb at christmas. he may go into def com three. who knows what he's capable of. they said can you calm him down? >> but if trump is playing backup, what happens when the good cops don't know the script? >> have you heard from diplomats around the world looking for clarity, looking for someone to interpret this man? >> constantly. because there's a disconnect
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between what they're hearing from the secretary of state, the secretary of defense or ambassador and what the president's communicating himself. they're all trying to figure out which end is up. what's the policy? what are we supposed to believe? it is a source of confusion. >> i've heard defenders say he's tweeting crazy like a fox. he wants to keep people off balance. >> that might be good in the real estate market. it's not good with the president of france or the prime minister of the united kingdom. to have the world's most powerful nation be seen as inconsistent, unpredictable and unreliable, that's not a business advantage. >> so what worries me is i think to myself will some unhinged person overseas interpret that in a particular way and take action in a particular well and will that initiate a chain of events that can't be called back? and then as a historian i say to myself well, madness is not always a disadvantage in diplomacy. some of the people who act the
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last night, yeah. and i tweeted. i tweeted. can you believe? >> of his thousands of mean tweets, there is at least one president trump regrets. it came when kim cake out of seclusion to appear at the 2014 oscars. having a real hard time watching the academy awards, trump tweeted. kim should sue her plastic surgeon. friends say the 81-year-old was so devastated she didn't leave home for months. >> i said, so, why did you do this to kim novak and his first response was i didn't get into any trouble for it, did i? >> after announcing his run for president, trump eventually apologized. >> the fact that i caught him bothered him. and he had to talk about it
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quite a bit and eventually say well, you're right, it wasn't a very nice thing to do. now, i think he was sensitive to being called out. >> tweets. >> i don't see that as an appropriate comment. >> i'm appalled. >> i think at times he's rude and crude. >> there is no shortage of voices calling for the president to cut back and tone it down, including his own voters. >> how do you think he's doing? >> man, it's kind of crazy. we have a new twitter president. i wish he would tweet less. >> is it a risky way to communicate? >> in a summer poll, seven in ten americans told cnn that twitter is a risky way for a president to communicate. but there are many supporters who disagree. >> he equates reasonably in my opinion. no, i'm just going to be keep tweeting. i'm going to be a tweeting president and wroour goiyou're
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get used to it. i love it. every time he tweets. i am entertained. sometimes i'm informed. it tells me what to care about today. it tells me what he's thinking. sometimes it's provocative or too provocative. i like the honesty of it. >> you're entertained. >> that is not a small thing. >> is there interest circumstance under which you'd suspend the president's snkt. >> we hold all accounts to the same service, but we're guiding everyone towards better usage of the platform. >> it is twitter policy to suspend users for abuse and they have shut down fake accounts retweeted by the president. like the white house, twitter declined our request for an interview. tried to press jack dorsey on whether they would ever intervene. >> so that's a yes or no? >> we're always going to work with all of our accounts and all people using our platform to
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make sure they're using it in healthy ways and to guide towards more positive impact. >> but among those who see real value in his tweets is a man who disagrees with almost all of them. >> so your twitter bile, patriotic american, proud immigrant, movie buff, springsteen fan. >> true. >> banned by putin. preet once ran one of the most elite teams in america. prosecutor, investigator wielding subpoenas and grand jurys. now when he sees injustice all he has is twitter. you chose the president's favorite form of media to answer back after your firing. why is that? >> well, that's the only option i had.
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i started by happenstance a few days after i got fired not expecting to get fired. as top district attorney for his district trump's tower was part of his watch. >> he asked me to stay, implored to me to stay, in fact. >> and then he called you a couple times? >> called me a few times to shoot the breeze, which is unusual. the number of times president obama called me was zero. >> he was asked to resign along with dozens of other obama apointies, fairly standard after change in the white house. but he refused and used twitter to let the world know it. was that easy for you? was it liberating? >> i don't know if it was liberating. but i heard some people remark
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on twitter and elsewhere preet's a different guy. i'm not a different guy. i have a different job. >> so many of the defenders say you've got it take it in some total. we take him seriously not literally. what do you think of that? >> he's the president of the united states. what it president says matters. it's probably the purest suggestion of what is in his mind and what his intentions and wants are. and if some of things are to restrict the free press, if some of those things are to make congress less democratic, if some of things to make it it like president duterte and some
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others are in the world. >> i'm connected with a guy back home who is often referred to as the forgotten man. i'm tweeting directly to him. and when you know those elitist insiders in washington, d.c. who support the status quo and status quo and working for you, when they're raising hell with me, i'm standing up for you. and i think people do feel that somewhere in their gut. there's always been establishment. and there's always been the rub, if you will, the common man against the establishment. and i think donald trump has just tapped into that in a way we haven't seen in a long, long time. and i don't believe any president may go back to not using twitter. they may be a little more careful, but they're going to be using twitter or the grandson of twitter, the next gen.
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>> when he uses twitter to push policy or take credit for economic success, to announce changes that can catch even the military offguard or retweet memes of himself hitting hillary clinton with a golf ball, critics may howl. but he's not tweeting to them. he's playing straight to the base, and they love it. >> i love it. >> and you know what it does? >> i think that is part of the appeal to many people is it's just raw and it's out there. >> i think twitter is a great thing for him. i hope he continues to hit back if people hit back at him. >> to me, i love his tweets. i actually wasn't wait to wake up in the morning to see them. cable. pe just like some people like wet grocery bags. getting a bad haircut.
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[ bloop, clicking ] and connect, as a family. just, uh one second voice guy. [ bloop ] huh? hey? i paused it. bam, family time. so how is everyone? find your awesome with xfinity xfi and change the way you wifi. abraham lincoln would probably not be electable today because of television. he was not a handsome man and he did not smile at all. he would not be considered to be a prime candidate for the presidency, and that's a shame, isn't it? >> was he right? if his use of social media is modern day presidential, what does it say about modern day? could the brilliant guys on
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mount roushmer win an election now? and how would lincoln play on twitter? oh, this is good thread. with malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness and the right as god gives us to see the right, let us strive onto finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who should have borne the battle, and for his widow and for his orphan. to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations. in the end twitter is just a tool, like a blade or a flame it can be used to harm or heal, to create or destroy. and with all tools it all comes down to the person holding it. >> with the exception of the
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late, great abraham lincoln, i can be more presidential than any president that's ever held this office. that i can tell you. this is "cnn tonight." i'm chris cuomo in for don lemon. no matter where you look tonight you're going to hear the news that president trump is supporting alabama senate candidate roy moore. but it is why he's doing it that should really be the headline. here's the president today addressing the man accused of assaulting two teenagers, one 14 at the time. >> we don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat, jones. i've looked at his record, it's terrible on crime, terrible on the border,
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