showdown at the consumer financial protection bureau, pitching the president against an obama appointee. who's really in charge of the top u.s. consumer watchdog agency? >> he has very close knowledge of the comey firing. and perhaps likely the president's state of mind when he did that firing. based on what i've seen, michael flynn is in deep trouble. >> we all want to know the answers to everything tomorrow.

this is a long process. >> the name dominating national headlines for more than two weeks. >> i'll walk across party line to create jobs and get wages up. >> what we're getting nationally, oh, alabamaens will vote for a pedophile over a liberal democrat. >> i wouldn't vote for a baby killer for hell or high water. 8:01 is the time on this saturday morning. and we are always so thankful to have you with us. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. chaos is brewing for the agency that has one of the biggest impacts on help you safe guard your finances. >> yeah, at the stroke of midnight most likely while you were sleeping the man heading the consumer protection bureau, richard cordray stepped down. and the answer, who is going to replace him on monday? the answer to that -- depending

on who you can. >> reporter: a lot of questions over who is leading the consumer protection agency and here's why. president trump tapped budget director nick mulvaney to be ahead of the consumer financial protection bure roar cfpb. richard cordray, an obama appointee formally resigned and named his chief of staff director. it sets up a political and legal clash here and the question of who is in charge when employees return to work on monday. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren who helped create the cfpb tweeted this. the dodd-frank act is clear. donald trump can't override that but the administration can appoint a current government official into a new job, as long as they're confirmed by the

senate under the federal vacancies act to serve in an official capacity. the cfpb was created to protect consumers and keep an eye on wall street. republicans argue the agency has too much power, not enough oversight and establish what they see as is anti-government regulations. mulvaney once called a sick and sad joke. president trump will ultimately nominate a permanent director. the opening is a chance for a major overhaul of the bureau. with us now, cnn correspondent, abby philip is here now. good morning, abby. i know while serving in congress, a south carolina congressman mule veinny wanted to kill this agency. is there any indication that his stance on this has changed? >> reporter: good morning, christi, there's no indication that nick mulvaney is anything

but. and he handles some of the antipathy against the groups against the cfpb. they've been pushing president trump to really gut that agency or get rid of it altogether. take a look at some of the comments mick mulvaney has said over the years. >> it's a wonderful example of how a bureaucracy will function if it has no accountability to anybody. it turns up being a joke and that's what the cfpb really has been in a sick sad way. because you got a tremendous execution that has authority over what you all do for business. over your business, over your members. >> well, we're going to hear from the white house in the next couple of hours how they see this legal fight. we're expecting them to say that the president and only the president has the ability to put in an interim replacement. it seems clear that the white

house wants to use this time in which there's no permanent director and mick mulvaney is in there to revamp the agency. they put out a statement last night, saying that they look forward to what mulvaney will do in that post. we'll keep you posted on what they have to say, christi. >> abby philip, we appreciate it. thank you. >> let's just be clear, this is a government agency that has an extreme outlook over your potential financial future as it were. let's talk more about this with kelly jane torrence, and daniel litman, politico reporter and co-auth of politico play balk and paul callan, cnn legal analysts. daniel, let me start with you, come monday, as we heard, this watchdog group is going to have no idea who is reports to, two, apparently. how is that going to play out? >> i can only imagine, are the two directors going to be fighting over office space or,

you know, the parking lot. you know, director's slot. so, i think on monday, this will probably go to the courts. you'll have various groups that support either director, you know, ask the federal courts to decide on these competing directors. but this is kind of an indication of the broader message confusion from the trump administration where you have two different viewpoints often coming about critical national issues. >> and kelly, what do you expect is going to happen, say, to this agency, under mulvaney's leadership? do you think it will be consumer protection in name only? >> doesn't it sound by the way like a great sitcom, two people showing up one day for the same position. no, the consumer protection bureau was the only government agency named in the 2016 republican platform aasen aagency the republicans wanted to get rid of. so, i think we'll see big changes under mick mulvaney.

honestly, i'm surprised that there's more excitement about this. the d.c. circuit court of appeals, actually a three-judge panel called the director of this agency, the most powerful part of the government after the president. they're confused about who actually has the power to decide who is the acting director. >> paul, mulvaney is the on one put in charge of the department. we can talk about the secretary of education and director of the epa and so on and so forth. this kind of moved. does it surprise you in any way? >> no, it hasn't. it's been a platform of the trump administration to reregulate the federal government. this is really a strange situation. this whole agency is really the brainchild of senator elizabeth

warren. and she ran on this with the senate of massachusetts setting up this agency. they kind of slipped in this provision in the law, creating this agency that the acting director becomes director when the director resigns. there's a prior federal law called the federal vacancy act which says the president can appoint a director. i'm betting when this goes to court, the new law is going to trump the old law. the consumer protection board legislation was passed after that prior federal law. they may win victory, the democrats here, and get their director in place. but, of course, the president is going to win ultimately because he's got a republican congress and he gets to name say permanent drepgteirector. >> daniel, this is an organization that's done quite a bit of good with many average

americans looking at their wallet, i say that. do you think they're going to lose this agency that has protected them from big banksing and other financial institutions? >> i think when a lot of trump voters came to vote for him last november, they didn't think they would get rid of an agency that was protecting them. not many voters pulled the lever and said, let's get rid of the consumer federal protection bureau. so it doesn't seem that trump has support of the public on this. this is more about pleasing very harsh conservatives in terms of the base which does not like regulation. but i think the average american says, what's wrong with having regulations that protect consumers? and they can't really point to many things that this bureau has done that has hurt the market. you know, the stock market is doing really well. it doesn't seem like this is an agency that has gone, you know, totally berserk and is, you know, not having -- not having

is proper authority. that most people think that this agency is doing good. >> yeah, there could be kind of a public blowback on this one. kelly, moving on to something else, i want to get your reaction to the president saying that "time" magazine was going to maim him man. year, tweeting, "time" magazine called to say that i was probably going to be named man person of the year. i said, probably is no good. what is the question to the president's frame of mind, "time" is saying, no, it doesn't work that way? >> it's a great question, because it does suggest the president's frame of mind. here a man that was elected president almost almost every analyst's predictions, quiets an about accomplishment.

and it's still not enough. i mean, donald trump seems to have some self-esteem issues, frankly. he constantly is bringing up he won by this much, that much. being man. year is not enough. he's done some amazing things just by becoming president. and he still needs that love that he seems to be missing. there's a hole in his heart i honestly think. tweets like that you almost feel sorry for him. almost. >> i should say what "time" magazine said, the president is incorrect about how we use person of the year. "time" does not comment on our choice publication which is december 6. i want to thank you for participating on our panel. we'll see, maybe it will be the president, nonetheless. >> thanks. coming up, it should be a significant moment for ivanka trump on the world stage.

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developments out of egypt this hour. the number of people killed in that horrifying massacre at a mosque that happened yesterday, well, the number of people who died has climbed to 305. >> and egyptian authorities say more than two dozen attackers carrying isis flags surrounded the mosque before setting off explosives and gunning down people as they tried to flee. cnn senior international correspondent ben wedeman is joining us live from cairo. ben, what are egyptian officials telling us both about the attack answer their poncresponse? >> reporter: first of all, of

538 killed, fraed of them were children killed at that mosque with prayers. from the public prosecutor who put out a statement read on egyptian television is that somewhere between 25 and 30 men drove up to this morsque in fiv suvs while prayers were going on. some of them were wearing combat fatigues. some were masked. and they set off some sort of explosion outside. and then went into the mosque and just started shooting and shooting. and we're not -- it's not clear how long it went on, but the toll is obviously, in this case -- now, according to the egyptian authorities, one of them was also carried an isis flag. now, isis itself has not claimed responsibility so far. and some of the other militant groups that function in egypt also in the sinai are denying

any connection. including one group that is affiliated to al qaeda. so, we're waiting for some sort of claim of responsibility. but it will be interesting to see if they actually do step up and admit it, given that this is the worst terrorist incident in egyptian history. martin. >> yeah, it say horrific attack carried out against a mosque. benned me daman, thank you very much. attorney general jeff sessions is going to be in texas for the funeral of that border patrol agent killed. martinez was killed during an incident last week. they're not saying exactly what happened. they're calling it a possible assault. the governor of texas said martinez was murdered. but the local sheriff says his injuries may be consistent with a fall in the culvert where he was found. the partner, apparently, is having some trouble remembering

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♪ we are so grateful to see you this morning. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. monday is the deadline to register to vote in alabama, of course, that only affects one state. but in this very close race that

could see a democrat flip a seat in a deep red seat it actually could impact the nation. >> yeah, but republican roy moore is not giving up. he's firing back once again against allegations that he sexually harassed and abused multiple women. >> five state campaigns, four years of honorable service, roy moore has been intensity scrutinized and not a hint of scandal. but four weeks before the election, false allegations, schemed by the republican establishment to protect their big government trough. but we know a vote for roy moore means conservative jumps, tax cuts and rebuilding the military. roy moore, right choice. >> let's bring in cnn's kaylee hartung. she's been following the race really closely. you've been there. what are the folks in alabama saying about this. i'm just wondering what chance doug jones has? >> well, martin you've been there as much as anybody digging

into the race and talking to voters. and the key democratic we could be looking at come election day, african-american voters. there's a head line in "the washington post" calling it doug jones' problem saying african-american voters are not energized by this race. interestingly enough, one state senator saying 2 1/2 weeks away from election day, one african-americans don't know there is an election to be had. >> reporter: the name dominating national headlines for more than two weeks. we know roy moore is running for the u.s. senate and his campaign is in trouble. >> they were girls when roy moore immorally pursued them. now they're women, witnessing the conduct. >> reporter: what about the man? >> what they're getting is oh, alabamaens will vote for a p

pedophile rather than a republican? >> in this circumstance, yes. >> reporter: in the red state of alabama where republicans have held every state office for the last 25 years, the blue label of del cat is drowning out doug jones' name to some, even while his opponent is drowning in scandal. >> we're staying in our lane as best we can. obviously to some extent it's a distraction. >> reporter: born and raised in alabama, the 63-year-old first-time candidate say longtime attorney. a federal prosecutor who is best known for successfully putting domestic terrorist eric rudolph and ku klux klan member behind bars. in the state that elected president trump by 28 points victory for jones requires him swaying some republicans on the issues. so he's trying to appeal to more conservative voters focusing on what he calls kitchen table issues. jobs, the economy, health care. he says he would volt to raise

the federal minimum wage and he supports the affordable care act. but for many in alabama, it comes down to one issue. jones is pro-choice. believing it's an intensity personal choice and supporting the abortion laws. >> i wouldn't vote for a baby killer for hell or high water. i don't believe in murdering children. >> reporter: strong rhetoric can be heard on the conservative talk airwaves but in print a different statement. the top newspapers writing stand for decency, reject roy moore. this front page above-the-fold editorial denouncing moore and endorsing jones. >> i believe in the second amendment. >> reporter: alabama voters are skeptical of outside influences on this race. but their choice on december 12th is crucial to the balance of power in washington. all eyes will be on alabama on december 12th. but today, they have the eyes of the sports world. the iron bowl. the annual rivalry college football game between alabama and auburn will take place.

the stakes could not be higher as john archibald on al.com said the state of alabama needs this. they need an escape from politics. that being said, i'm told doug jones will be in auburn tailgating today. a graduate of alabama. the alabama newspaper makes a case that supports more, they depend on the age the voter. that seems to be true what i found as well. we want you to listen to this clip from a podcast called "young alabama." produced by two mentioned in the article. take a listen. >> it's kind of hard for me as a young republican to sit and list ton people tell me oh, it's fake, david, it's not real when there's a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing in the opposite direction. and the statement from roy moore is anything but satisfying.

>> joining us now, michael billington, one of the co-hosts of the podcast "young alabama" and aaron sealing who says he will vote for moore. michael, let me start for you, in your podcast, you said no matter where you stand on the issues, you cannot vote for someone who is lying to you. is that what you said? >> yes, sir, i found that the allegations against him, particularly sexual assault and sexual molestation have been very critical and very serious. as of yet, the moore campaign has not been able to provide the same level of credibility in their denials. and because of that and the contradictory statements that they're making, i can't leave myself to vote for somebody who is not being truthful or at least open with me. >> we should point out these are accusations. there's no proof that has been essentially brought forward yet. no charge of any kind. aaron, some have questions about the polls showing jones leading

because they say what happens in the voting booth, we've learned this from past experience, is not necessarily what a voter will tell a pollster. do you think the polls should be questioned right now? >> i think they should. you know, if you look at alabama, we vote 62% for trump. i think doug jones has a good case and can prove that it's credible. >> i should point out that you're going for roy moore, that is correct? >> right now, i'm supporting judge moore if it proves to be true beyond a reasonable doubt. then i'm subject to change. >> how do you get to that point? it's 40 years time has passed. and it's a he said/she said kind of thing. to say you want proof, there are things we believe without necessarily proof positive. but in this case you won't proof

positivy. >> right, we need to address this, policy is just as important as character when it comes to electing public officials. i believe in the american judicial system. that you're innocent unless proven guilty. >> bless you. >> sorry. >> michael, you made in your podcast sort of a comparison to bill clinton. but in this case, these charges, once of them brought against the president was proven. this one, how you can make that kind of a claim? >> well, i mean, i think the idea of proof is a very vague statement, that if we're going to do comparisons to the court of law, testimony is just as viable as being able to evidence. and if we're going to believe the many different allegations against the clintons, against the other democrats that many

republicans especially in alabama are very fond of bringing up and believe wholehearted wholeheartedly, then there's no ready to doubt these claims. you mentioned a couple seconds, there's a he said/she said situation, right now, it's more a she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said situation. >> i got you. what's a republican supposed to do? >> i'm a big fan of the write-in vote. i think if you're uneasy about a candidate, you shouldn't vote for them. you shouldn't support somebody because you're trying to choose the letters of two evils because in the end, you're still going to choose the evil. >> aaron, is that what has happened with write-ins that haven't turned out will. >> in the end, the republican party is going to be the party of morality.

and we need the high ground. it may mean losing this seat and maintaining the legitimacy of the values of the party, then that's something we need to do. >> aaron, the last word. >> i don't believe in condetermining a man as a pedophile if it's not true. people are trying to demonize as you as victims. and alabama should look into this and see what we can find. >> we appreciate both of you joining us and giving us a more youthful perspective. thank you both. michael bullington and aaron seeley. as u.s. health care costs are skyrocketing there are more hospitals in rural areas closing down. 82 hospitals have closed down nationwide. sometimes it means the closest e.r. is hundreds of miles away. here's cnn's simon ostrowski.

>> 100 erie main. zblac . >> reporter: this is an ems true in a small mining town of the middle of nevada. there's no professional ambulance service here. it's only hospital closed its doors for good in 2015. >> medic 11 on scene. >> reporter: local residents have taken matters into their own hands. don goodmanson is one of several volunteer emts who act as the community's only lifeline. >> it's scary. it's scary to live here. i'm scared for residents, i'm scared for my family. >> reporter: when the hospital closed, the entire county, an area roughly the size of the u.s. state of massachusetts was left without any emergency medical care. any area that's more than 30 miles away from a hospital is known as a hospital desert.

tonipta, it's more than 200 miles away. >> if you need trauma care, you're looking at reno or las vegas. it's 3 1/2 hours by vehicle. i know of some people that did not make it on the transport. they expired en route. >> my aunt. she had a lot of medical problems and we weren't able to get her to higher level of care quick enough. so she passed in my ambulance. it was just hard. like, she taught us how to be emts we were working on her. there was nothing more than we could do. if we had a hospital, they have years of knowledge and it would have been different. >> reporter: dawn is bringing her latest patient to the airport. but by the plane arrives from las vegas, they've already been waiting on the tarmac for two hours. this is increasingly the reality of living in rural america. if you get injured or you get

sick, you have to be driven to the airport so you can get flown to a hospital hundreds of miles away. >> i think that because we're so rural, people tend to forget about us. why are we not worthy of health care? we're people, too. >> reporter: simon ostrovsky, cnn, tonopah. nevada. lawyers of national security advicer michael flynn are no longer sharing the state of the investigation. and the latest snub from the state department. details why the secretary of state is refusing to send high-level officials to india with ivanka trump.

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administration is training to overshadow a major global summit. the state department said it isn't sending a high-level diagnosis next week to india. the main reason, the secretary of state rex tillerson doesn't want to support ivanka trump who is leading the u.s. delegation to that event. cnn's michelle kosinski broke this story. and she has more details. >> so, what we're talking about here is the global entrepreneurship summit. it's a big event. it's put on by the state department. and this year first daughter and senior white house adviser ivanka trump is head lining it. she leaves this weekend. she was invited by the indian prime minister himself and the theme is women's entrepreneurship. what we're hearing from some sources inside the state department and a source close to the would you say is that

secretary of state rex tillerson and his inner circle don't want to send senior people, because they don't love the idea of ivanka trump leading the u.s. delegation here. from a senior state department official, they mean tillerson and staff won't send someone senior because they don't want to bolster ivanka. it's another rift between white house and state at the time when rex tillerson doesn't need any more problems with the president. and from a source close to the white house, rex doesn't like the fact that he's supposed to be the nation's top diplomat and jared and ivanka have stepped all over tillerson for a long time. now that he's not sending people to support the issue, he's not supporting ivanka trump. when you look in the past year, president obama attended more than once. secretary of state kerry and under secretary and assistant secretaries of state. but these courses are telling us that tillerson and his staff aren't letting anybody above the deputy assistant level go. and originally, the acting

assistant secretary for this region was slated to be on the trip but she was then pulled by tillerson and his staff. when i asked a state department spokesperson who are the senior people going on the trip, and the list hasn't been officially published yesterday they did give me a short of the top u.s. government officials but none of them was from the state department. there was an ambassador, but that person is already in india. so, you could say, all right, this event was an obama era creation that the current administration is trying to slash its budget. but the answers we get back from our sources are, well, if you're going to send a smaller delegation, fine, but wouldn't you send your senior people and cut back other ways. we did finally get a statement. the state department is committed to supporting the

women's economic empowerment and entrepreneurship. the summit is about 1500 entreprene entrepreneurs, investors and supporters. but they're obviously not commenting on this perceived tillerson/ivanka snub. the deputy editor of the weekly standard with us, as well as daniel lippman, reporters at politico and co-author of "politico playbook." kelly jane, is this about infighting as best you can tell, or budget cutting? >> i think it's a little bit of both. i have to say, we in washington kind of enjoy the infighting going on with the administration. we all like drama, but when it starts to affect policy and events, it becomes a real problem. i have to say, given this administration, if you look at trump's cabinet, it's mostly old white men. i think the administration -- rex tillerson is not doing the

administration a good service by sort of ignoring one of the few women at a high level in the trump administration. this event is about women and entrepreneurship. and she was invited by the indian prime minister. and this really does start to make rex tillerson who -- a lot of people who don't like trump still like tillerson. think he's been sort of a calming influence. but it starts to make him look really petty, i have to say. >> but there are people who say listen, ivanka and jared kushner look like they're stepping on his toes here. to that, you say what, daniel? >> i would say tillerson himself is not doing himself many favors by cutting the state department so much. and actually focusing more on the bureaucratic structure of the department and less about diplomacy overseas. i remember when john kerry was secretary of state and hillary clinton as well, they were flying around the world every week. and they were trying to make

deals, solve issues like the syrian civil war. and it doesn't seem that tillerson is focusing on that. he's more about in his office, studying that bureaucratic plan and not wanting him to make the deals that trump wanted him to make as secretary of state. it's very disappointing to foreign policy experts who thought that tillerson could do a better job because he was w e widely louded as a ceo of exxonmobil. security adviser michael flynn no longer sharing information with the president's lawyers which means flynns it's expected could be cooperating with special counsel mueller's investigation or perhaps pleading guilty. when you first heard about that, and based on what you know about it today, let's face it, flynn knows an awful lot of details about that campaign. he sat in meetings. he sat right next to people.

do you think what we're seeing, this withholding of information now from the white house, could change what some of these key players may say in the future? say, jared kushner, for instance. knowing that there's somebody that right next to them in a meeting that could say, guess what, i don't know that they're telling the truth? what are your thoughts. >> that's a great question, christi. when i first heard about this, i was a little surprised because, you know, trump himself has really been standing behind flynn. you know, he keeps calling him a great guy throughout this investigation. so i assumed that the feeling was mutual. and i was a bit surprised. the only thing that perhaps might safe some of these people if they're not entirely truthful, they're going to claim they have a bad memory. that seems to be the number one excuse that we've been hearing in this investigation. but one of the reasons i heard that it might be why flynn has decided to flip possibly, as they say, is that he's also

worried about his son and what his son has been up to. and it's possible he might, you know, plead guilty or cooperate in exchange for a bit of leniency of his son, who is also being investigated by robert mueller. >> daniel, i want to play this quick for the chair of the citizens in washington. the ethics czar under president obama. let's listen to what he said. >> all right. >> okay. so, it's also my understanding that you say mueller may not give a deal to flynn, unless he implicates someone up the ladder, is that correct? >> it's correct. i had the opportunity years later when i was in the government, of working with bob, on an investigation. so, i know how he rolls. he's not going to hand out these cooperate deals like christmas candy. on the contrary, and it's

standard operating procedure in our profession, brooke, you've got to roll over on somebody up the ladder. in the same way, john who is a great american hero for what he did cooperated against those above him. and ultimately led to the resignation of the president. i think that mueller's going to want something from flynn on kushner, don junior or trump himself. >> daniel, your take on that theory? >> that's probably keeping don and jared up at night to hear something like that being said. i think that underliones the important of don junior and jared kushner telling the truth to investigators when they get interviewed. you already saw jared mistake on the security disclosures three times on his foreign contacts. that was not good for his legal liability. but i think going forward, they're going to keep in mind that flip could have flipped. so, they're going to try to dot

every i and cross every t, in terms of speaking the truth to the letter to these investigators. they're definitely worried that flynn is cooperating, and maybe others as well that we don't know about. >> kelly jane torrence, daniel lippman, so we appreciate the both of you. thank you. the traditional start to the holiday season continues. happening now, it's small business saturday. plus, we'll tell you why macy's and lowe's had a whole lot of unhappy customers during the peak of black friday. ♪shostakovich playing ♪

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i know you know this but i'm just going to tell you anyway. today is small business saturday. the traditional shopping excursion that follows black friday to promote community over big box profits. joining this statement from many, shop owners open the strong economy will help keep doors open. >> speaking online, macy's suffered a credit card system meltdown during the height of black friday. machines struggled to process transactions which caused instore delays and online outages. and a lot of complaints out there. some shoppers decided to give up and just abandoned their items in shorelines. and more problems, lowe's its website went down a short time yesterday. you look at cybermonday coming up, you hope it's all good. as more choose shopping online, brick and mortar stores may be witnessing the end of the

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