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♪ appointments opening the door to a potential showdown between the white house and the country's top consumer watchdog agency. >> any perception that mr. ku kushner is not cooperative but if you look at the emails he is the hero. >> this is a terrible, terrible piece of legislation and it must be defeated. >> if we can repeal part of obamacare and have a tax care
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that is great. >> we don't need a democrat in there. roy moore denies it. that's all i can say. >> how can you be a -- and be a constituent in your state? >> good morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. tomorrow, is the deadline for jared kushner to hand over documents. >> they are tight find out if any meetings between the russian official and trump in the 2016 campaign. they take a closer at kushner's apparent role in the administration. >> watch dog group is slammed as a total disaster as questions swirl who is in charge tomorrow morning after the former director abruptly quit.
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this week could be make or break. a moment for the genetic here. can the president secure a win on tax reform is a big question going into tomorrow. and democrat ic senator al franken is expected to speak for the first time since several women came forward accusing him of sexual harassment. kushner has been asked to turn over more documents. is kushner expected to fully cooperate this time? good morning, by the way. >> reporter: good morning, martin. yes, kushner is facing yet another deadline to turn over documents to senate investigators and all the while his attorneys have essentially been saying that he is cooperating, that he wants to cooperate fully with the investigations because they believe that every time he turns over these documents, they vindicate him. the senate investigators are looking for some specific pieces
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of information, some emails they know exist but weren't turned over and have to do with information kushner received during the campaign about other campaign aides, contacts with russia and wikileaks. kushner's attorneys said they know the emails were there but that were not responsive to the initial request and had nothing to do with kushner's own contacts with russia. >> former representative barney frank, i know, has pushed back on the white house saying that president trump has the authority to appoint a new leader to the nation's top consumer watchdog agency. this has been a huge issue. you've interviewed frank. what did he say? >> reporter: the back and forth has only escalated the last xume xume couple of days. barney franks told me that when they crafted this law, they were very, very careful to give the
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agency autonomy from the political sphere. meaning the director and deputy director would not -- could not be fired easily by the pe president. they did this intentionally in order to give that agency, which investigates some big actors in the economic system, some independence and autonomy. so he says that the way that this should have worked was that the outgoing director should have named his deputy director and that person would be the acting director. he does not believe that president trump hat ability to name nick mulvaney to that post. at the same time, the justice department's lawyers have come out with an opinion backing the president saying that they believe that the cfpb law is not
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the one responsible for saying how these vacancies can be filled but that a law called the federal vacancies reform act is the one that applies here. it's a lot of confusion down here -- down there in washington. but i think by monday, the white house claims that mick mulvaney is the up with in charge. we will see who is going to be running the cfpb when folks come to work in that federal agency. >> tomorrow morning could be an interesting day. abby phillip, thank you for that. julian zeleny is a history storian and professor at princeton university as well errol louis from spectrum news and joey jackson is a criminal and defense attorney. thank you all for being with us. errol, start with you. tomorrow is the deadline for jared kushner to turn in the other document to the senate judiciary committee.
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what is expected to be answered by those papers? >> he would be well advised to ply with the request for one thing. i think it becomes one more piece of evidence that this administration back from its campaign days reaching past inauguration day into the administration has not been forthcoming who said what to whom about anything related to russia. so to the extent that the administration continues to call this a nothing burger, this is stuff that, you know, i think we have known all along. we have known if you piece it together piece-by-piece what you see is that there are all kinds of meetings that jared kushner was either a part of or messaged about during the campaign, during the transition, during the early administration. so i don't know that we are going to learn anything brand new right now but the lack of early compliance itself is really somewhat telling. >> you bring up a go point that i want to go to you with, julian. "the new york times" writing something this morning about where jared kushner has been.
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we haven't seen a lot of him lately. here is what they say. in the first month of the administration mr. kushner would spend five or six hours a day with the president what is described as playing defense and making sure others were not gaming the system by persuading mr. trump to make decisions without consulting others who had interest in the issues. now under a less free wheeling system, mr. kushner and other aides are expected to stay in their own lanes. what is jared kushner's lane, julian? >> well, in recent weeks, the lane has been israeli, palestinian peace talks, for example. or the other lane he has been involved in is innovation and technology in government programs. the question is if he still has more informal role, given he is a family member, in advising the president and directing the president, even if formally his position has diminished. so there is a way of looking at this that steven bannon is gone.
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he formally, jared kushner, removed himself but he still has the ear of the president. but his formal lanes have narrowed. >> how likely is it, do you think, joey, that kushner is going to be called to testify in front of mueller? >> i think it's very likely. i think that, you know, certainly he has been involved just thoroughly in all issues and all phases of the campaign. certainly he has specific knowledge as to what occurred. he knows the principles. he knows the parties. he has been involved since the very beginning. obviously, he shares a special relationship, right? literally with the president of the united states and as a result of that, he is a source of information that just cannot be overlooked. so i think it's very likely that will occur. >> how vulnerable, joey, do you think he is? based on what we know, of some sort repercussion from this, dependent, of course, what is in these documents. >> i think he is very vulnerable. that may very well have to do
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with the lack of compliance or might i say not lack of, but the slowness in which compliance has been there. but let's not all forget that the president has the ability to pardon anyone so i don't want to jump to the conclusion that he would otherwise be indict or is a target, but certainly he's a person of interest who knows a lot. but the president holds the cause to the extent that at the end of the day, no matter what happens to kushner, what happens proceeding forward with manafort or anyone else. general flynn. the president certainly could exercise that authority under the constitution to say all is forgiven. >> errol, we were talking to julian, obviously, about where kushner has been as of late. how much of i guess this new reclusiveness that we are seeing could be equated to the john kelly effect, let's say? >> well, we see some reporting that john kelly says jared
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kushner works for me. a strong statement and maybe not accurate as as far as walking privileges into the on the flooral office and contact unfettered with the president. john kelly has made clear it's not going to happen and jared kushner has to fulfill this-- f. and sort of solve the middle east peace crisis. while you're at it, provide all of these documents for this very serious, serious investigation that could topple this white house. >> joey, based on what we are seeing, do you have any guesstimation as to how long it may be before we publicly know more about where the russian investigate stands? >> christi, i don't. i think we know that mueller has been very thorough in undertaking this work.
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he is interviewing a variety of parties who have knowledge of this. they are not under any specific timetable. their mandate is so find out who knew what, when, where, how, why. and whatever time it takes i would suspect that he would get to the bottom of it without any pressure really of coming or leaping to any conclusion. and so, therefore, i do think that the upcoming months will be very telling as to where we go. we saw the manafort, the hicks indictment. we saw the guilty plea as to map dop loess apapadopoulos and tho that maybe they are cooperating, i think things will be forthcoming but i don't think is there a specific timetable that he has to adhere to. >> i want to pivot who is leading the cfpb tomorrow morning. nobody knows at this point. the president did tweet about it yesterday. julian, there is something in here that stood out to me.
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here is what the president said. a lot of questions yesterday when there were -- was this back and forth who is at the helm of, even in the interim, about how powerful this organization, this bureau may continue to be and if it will survive. does not tell you when he says we will bring it back to life, do you believe that the president does not plan to dissolve this bureau now? >> i don't think he is planning to dissolve the bureau but i do think he is planning to undercut it. this has been a target of the administration from the start. it's part of the dodd/frank law that the president is very opposed to. and now, by creating confusion about who the leader is, that makes it ineffective for the time being because literally no
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boss running the show. i suspect the formal appointment will be someone who is not sympathetic what the bureau is supposed to do. so this is a case where conservative can't dismantle a program and gut it from within and i think the process that will play out this week. >> we appreciate your insights, gentlemen. stick around. we have more to talk to you about here in a couple of minutes. don't miss "state of the union" this morning. senator dick durbin and senator lindsey graham both on the show with jake tapper at 9:00 a.m. eastern on cnn. a little star power entering the alabama senate race. charles barkley comes out against republican roy moore, but only a couple of weeks until the election is he going to sway any voters. also, the gop is hoping for a victory on tax fee morreform. what will the white house be willing to give up to secure
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it's the final stretch of one of the most controversial elections of the year. >> tomorrow is the deadline for voter to register in alabama special election for race could see a diagram flip a senate seat in a deep red state. tomorrow, republican roy moore make is his first public appearance in nearly two weeks after eight women came forward with allegations against him. moore has continued to deny the allegations in interviews over the last week. >> but in response, his appoint doug jones claim that moore is avoiding the campaign trail and saying, quote, roy moore is hiding from his record and hiding from the media and hiding from voters. disappearing for ten days at a time and unwilling to go out and even work for their votes. >> doug jones facing an uphill battle to defeat roy moore.
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according to christi paul christi paul, he has to carry more than 90% of african-american voters, boost their turnout as well. >> and one endorsement that could go a long way, alabama native, turned hall of fame basketball player, charles barkley. >> roy moore is running with steve bannon as his right hand man who is a white separatist. i'm not even going to get into the women stuff. but a guy -- how can you be a white separatist and represent all of the constituents in your state? i mean, you know, everybody is going crazy over these sexual allegations. roy moore to me, when he brought in steve bannon, should have been disqualified. i don't understand. to me, that -- how can you have a guy who is running with a white separatest running for a political office? we have a lot of black people in the state who are amazing people but to run a campaign with a guy at your chief advocate who is a white nationalist, white separatist should disqualify roy
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moore way before this women's stuff came up. >> there is new issue that has been introduced in the campaign and that the issue of race. here to talk about all of this, julian zeleny is a cnn political analyst and historian and professor at princeton university and errol louis, cnn political commentator and political anchor at spectrum news. good morning. we were talking about this issue yesterday it is crucial for doug jones to get a significant turnout from african-americans voters in alabama and yet didn't seem to be a whole lot in the race so far to generate enthusiasm. does this change things? >> i don't know that it necessarily does. there are a lot of auburn fans down there, of course, so they will listen to anything somebody charles barkley has to say. but the reporting on the black turnout as far as the ability to predict it seems to suggest that because doug jones is a moderate democrat. he is not a -- he is not an
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obama democrat. he is not whipping and stirring up the crowds and asking them to make history and talking about hope and change. he is presenting as a good down the line democrat. he has some civil rights movement. for those that don't don't remember the civil rights he is not that. what you just said, what you just showed of charles barkley is an effective piece of video, if you can get it out to everybody. the question is can you get it out to everybody? and can you make sure they all turn out on december 12th? >> julian, it appears that charles barkley is kind doing what the president is. he is saying don't vote for that other guy pep wasn't touting the great things doug jones has done. it was more like you can't have a whan who has got ties
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apparently to white supremacist holding a senate seat. >> i think, in some ways, barkley is twaeactually on to something, meaning the stories of the sexual molestation and sexual assault has overtaken roy moore he is a far right extremist and what everybody thought was outside the spectrum of what the party needed. i think barkley is sending a message that doug jones might use to talk about what is at stake at the race. but in the end, i do think it will be hard to sell the democrats so much as it will be more effective to really explain what is at risk with this republican in office. >> we are entering what is clearly the last few moments or last weeks, i guess, of this campaign. roy moore is going to make his first public appearance in 11 days, i believe.
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a little more than two weeks left. was staying out the campaign trail after the allegations a good idea? and before i get to that question, let me show you what president trump said tuesday when he was asked if he'll campaign for roy moore. >> are you going to campaign for roy moore? >> i'll be letting you know next week. >> that is known as a tease and, julian, i'm wondering, is he really going to alabama and go stump for roy moore? >> well, i'd say i'd hard to believe that would happen, but this is the year of the trump presidency and the unbelievable happens every day. there is no real need for him to do it. this is a deeply republican state and to bat for republicans is that there is no need for this. the only reason for some ways is fountain president, himself, wants to interject himself in this story and appeal to his base. but i don't think roy moore
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needs him in some ways. >> errol, i want to bring up this issue. "the new york times" is reporting that president trump was visibly annoyed when his daughter ivanka criticized roy moore. she said, quote. there is a special place for people who prey on children. we all remember when the tape was released from her father. how will this play out in the roy moore election? >> this is the question that julian put a stinger on which is that if you're going to appeal to voters and say, yes, you have principles, but you're going to have to put those principles aside and go for power instead, that is the entire proposition for roy moore. that is where the white house is coming from and where roy moore supporters are coming from. and to anybody who sort of interfered with that, some like ivanka trump in particular, sort of upsets the apple cart. and one could very easily imagine why the president was
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visibly annoyed because what he is doing -- i think it's based on probably internal polling, as well as public polling that we see, he is relying on the reality that it seems that part for core republican voters are willing to put aside all of the lurid accusations against moore and to the extent somebody comes along and says well, you can't put that aside. you can't overlook this. it really kind of sort of breaks the spell. so there are a number of surrogates who are out there who are trying to make it acceptable to republicans and say, look, it's okay to vote for a democrat. this one time. when ivanka trump appears to be on the side of those people giving more republicans permission to stray on election day, it really sort of puts the white house in a very, very awkward position. >> all of this is what makes following this race, whether you're in alabama or in alaska, so fascinating.
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investigating if there were any inappropriate meetings or contact between russian officials and president trump associates during the 2016 campaign. >> mean there is this. the president slamming the nation's top consumer watchdog group as a total disaster. questions swirl who is just in charge tomorrow morning after its former director abruptly quit. >> a critical week for transpea fo -- tax reform. the president heads to capitol hill to meet with the republicans and talk about the tax plan. the white house needs a victory here and to get one they may be willing to make some changes to this bill. >> reporter: the president made his promise. >> we are going to give the american people a huge tax cut for christmas. >> reporter: this week, we will find out if he can keep that promise. some senators on the gop side are confident as they prepare to debate the bill this week. >> we have had eight years of economic stag nation for hard working families and this tax
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bill, i think, create the opportunity to move dramatically beyond that. >> reporter: democrats see an opening for a knockout punch, though. >> this is a terrible, terrible piece of legislation and it must be defeated. >> reporter: it will be a close call. senate majority leader mitchell mcconnell can only lose two republican votes and the bill's repeal of the individual mandate may prove to be a step too far for republicans. >> there are provisions of the of the bill that i would like to see changed. >> reporter: to get the votes the trump administration may be open to certain changes. >> if we can repeal part of obamacare as part of a tax bill and have a tax bill that is still a good tax bill that can 3 pass that is great. if it's the impediment we are okay taking it out. >> reporter: hur seniors and those are low incomes. >> come back with social
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security and medicaid. >> reporter: the white house says it stands with the middle class. >> if we believe it comes out before christmas raise taxes to the middle class the president will not sign it. >> reporter: the vote wrangling starts tuesday as the president will you take to gop on capitol hill and meet with a bipartisan group of lawmakers at the white house. a lot of people are wondering the vote on the gop tax plan, could it be the first major policy victor for president trump and the gop? bernie sanders and others debate. tim cruz and tim scott in a 90-minute cnn town hall debate is live from washington hosted by cnn's jake tapper and chief political correspondent dana bash. it is tuesday 9:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. next day developing story out of china. a huge explosion at a factory killing at least two people and that report is straight ahead. why pope francis' controversial trip to myanmar
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take a look at the scene here minutes after a massive explosion in a factory at a major port city in china. which is also home to the chinese owner of volvo. this blast killed two people and rescue crews were scrambling to get people out of that building that collapsed. reports say that nobody was living in the building but there may have been some garbage collectors apparently working inside at the time of the blast. the cause of that explosion is not yet known. meanwhile, argentina's navy says that it's not giving up the search for a missing submarine and they are sending out this small submarine in a new video to help look for it. the ara san juan went missing two weeks ago with 44 crew members on board. they say the sound of a possible
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explosion was detected near its last known location and the crew may be low on oxygen right now. but family members are still hopeful. take a listen. >> translator: a lot of help. a lot of warmth. a lot of support. well, you can't get full comfort but i am very thankful from my heart. i am thankful because i feel that the 44 have support along with us, the closest family members. >> several ships are mapping the bottom of the ocean to try to locate the submarine but operations could be hampered today by bad weather. pope francis is making a historic visit to myanmar next month and not without controversy. myanmar was held a hope for democrats but last week secretary of state rex tillerson accused the state of, quote, ethnic cleansing against muslims. we want to talk to cnn religious comment father edward back. thank you for being with us.
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i want to read something was said this past week. quote. do you have those same concerns, father beck? >> yeah. christi, this is a mine field for pope francis because this is an oppressed group. remember, rohingya living in the western part of myanmar and they have been forced through ethnic cleansing, murder, rape, set fire to their homes to flee back to bangladesh. now is he coming to a buddhist country.
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they say don't say much. does he mention the name rohingya? because they are not recognized as an ethnic group in myanmar. 135 ethnic group that the government recognizes and rohingya are not one of them so they don't want the pope to say the name. if he does he offends the abusedist and he offends the government. yet he feels these are oppressed people and he needs to go there and speak to them and for them. this is a delicate balancing act in myanmar that the pope will have. >> that is what we understand is going to happen when looking at his itinerary that is released he is meet a military leader of mean burgl ayanmar and going to to meet with the refuges. what would you say to the pope, if you could say anything to the pope, prior to this visit? or what are your hopes for it? my hopes is he really keeps that
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status as keeping for the oppressed and the poor. so while it may offend some people, i think for him to say the name, to give the people their dignity, to say rohingya says you matter, you are someone. now when he is in bangladesh, again, not a christian country, 0.2% of the country is christian, and he is the third pope to go there, he will meet with these refuges and for them, it's a sign of hope. what is so interesting, christi, the focus of this trip has not been on the small catholic communities in both of these countries. remember, pope francis is going really for the catholic communities too. but they are so small. this is like the rolling stones pulling up at a hundred-seat venue which they would not do but propose francis is because he does not want the catholics to be forgotten in these countries. he wants them to know he cares about them. he is wading into those waters and trying to shore up the christian communities there and, also, the interreligious
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dialogue between muslims. he has a lot on his plate and i would say speaking forcefully as a voice as you have in other countries because that is what people are looking for. they want to be noticed and accepted. the theme of this trip is peace and love. this pope is certainly going to bring that. will the people embrace it and act upon it? that remains to be seen. >> thomas reese wrote he has great admiration for the pope and his abilities but someone should have talked him out of making this trip. do you agree with that. or is this trip the right thing to do? >> i think the trip is righty thing to do. this pope has shown he wants to go where others fear to tread and this is what he does. he goes into situations where others say he should not and he speaks a voice of love, compassion, and acceptance. the interreligious dialogue is important especially in this day and age with this pope. remember, when he was in turkey, he stood in the blue mosque, one
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of the most famous mosques in the world, and he embraced the grand mufti in that mosque ago a sign we krichchristians must ha interdialogue. another situation for the pope on a world platform to embrace that solidarity so he must do it. >> do you have concern for the pope's safety? only a few seconds left. >> i always have concerns for the pope's safety, except my concerns do not seem to be his. he still goes around? unarmored vehicles and he says i'm an old man. if this is it, so be it. he does not seem to have the same kind of security concerns that many of us have for him. i pray safety for him. but, yes, i always have safety concerns for our pope. >> all righty. father beck, we always appreciate your perspective. thank you for taking the time for us this morning. >> great seeing you, christi. >> thank you. fascinating video here.
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a volcano a tourist destination is spewing smoke and ash clouds and it's causing thousands to leave the area. we will have the details ahead. so, coy, what do you get for pulling off one of the biggest upsets in college football? >> you get a whole bunch of love! and how about a fine of $225,000? we will show you who and how and why coming up on "new day." wakey! wakey! rise and shine! oh my gosh! how are you? well watch this. i pop that in there. press brew. that's it. so rich. i love it. that's why you should be a keurig man! full-bodied. are you sure you're describing the coffee and not me?
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oh, my gosh! it was an upset of epic proportions in last night's iron bowl rivalry between number one alabama and number six auburn. >> coy wire has all of the info.
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>> happy sunday fun day. >> you had a tough day yesterday, right? i have to watch tv? >> college football saturday was terrific. auburn trick plays and blistering tempo and pulled out a famous alum to get fans heightened for the game. our brother charles barkley to see his statue unveiled on campus. no doubt an auburn legend. auburn may have a legend in the making. quarterback jared stinham. this guy was taking classes at a community college last year after walking away from baylor just waiting for an opportunity elsewhere. auburn came knocking and stidham and the tigers on the verge of a playoff berth after defeat the number one team in the nation for the second time in three weeks. the fans on the field meant that auburn university got a $250,000 fine because you're not allowed
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to do that in their conference. >> look at that. >> thinking it was worth it. >> could very really avoid it? >> nerd nation. top heisman contender bryce love shocked notre dame. he ran for 125 yards and he is averaging nearly nine yards a carry on the season. the irish had the lead in the fourth quarter but stanford scored three straight touchdowns. the quarterback had four of them in this game. stanford with a 38-20 shocker over the golden domers and they now go to pac-12 championship game. they won three of the last five of those. nerd nation now faces usc. finally, wait until you see. alabama may have lost some football but their hoops team give us something we may never see again in college hoops. their entire bench was ejected after rushing the floor for a scuffle against minnesota. then an injury and another player fouled out and bama down to three players versus minnesota's five! look at that! 1-2-3. bama somehow pulled within three points in the final minutes of
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this game. they would lose 89-84 but what a incredible display of resilience. we have great nfl games today. your browns are facing the bengals. good stuff today. >> it is good stuff. >> go, browns. this could be their sunday? >> ha ha! >> you know what? it doesn't matter how good the team is. ohio fans are dedicated. >> always there. >> yeah. >> thanks, coy. >> you're welcome. all righty. so there is a volcano in bali that is blowing up. >> yeah. spewing ash clouds and sending it thousands of feet in the air. you heard me. you see it there. we will tell you how this is not only affecting television but a popular tourist destination. next!
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regard champion pit master rallied his barbecue buddies not to go to a game or anything. he was there to help people in need when a catastrophe tornado hit joplin, missouri, in 2011. now stan hayes is one of cnn's top ten heroes. here is why. >> i've been competeing in barbecue for years. besiding being a nourishing meal, it's comfort food. after a disaster that is extremely emotional, everybody's lives are on their front yard. so we decided we are going to get a bunch of the barbecue family together and help.
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officials in bali telling people they need to leave now if you're in the area of this volcano. it's obvious why when you look. a mastiff volcano in this popular tourist destination spewing smoke and ash and the plumes are going up over 13,000 feet, more than 25,000 people have been evacuated and several airlines are cancellinging their flights. >> ivan cabrera is live from the cnn weather center as he watches this right. ivan, how long is the eruption going on and how bad could it get? do we know? >> it had been behaving itself for a few weeks here. 25,000 people still in shelters as a result of the volcano here and the volcano hard dormant since 1963 and two eruptions last few weeks is going up so we
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have disruption in travel and cancellations and upwards 2,000 people at the airport there stranded and waiting for help. the reason the airplanes can't fly through this, we can fly through a lot of things but ash is very dangerous to aircraft because as that plume goes up, it has basically vo volcanic ash and components that can clog up the area and result in significant problems with the engine. the magma cools and cakes on the combustion and you got big-time problems. sometimes you can't see the plume that the radar and the aircraft can't pick it up. we will watch this closely. the radar depicting shower and thunderstorm activity and likely cause problems at the surface as the ash comes down. in fact, we have reports that ash is falling as far away as the island to the east so we will see if we get the big eruption but for now continue to monitor the air space which remains quite dang

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