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stories sourced by the best reporters, now. ♪ welcome to "inside politics." i'm nia-malika henderson. john king has the day off. breaking 12 days of silence, president trump weighs in on the senate race in alabama. he's backing the republican roy moore despite the multiple allegations involving moore's past conduct with young women. >> roy moore deny it is. >> what about the women? >> by the way, he did say total denial. and i do have to say, 40 years is a long time. he's run eight races and this has never come up. 40 years is a long time. >> moore does deny the claims and his campaign wasted no time in using trump's words for fundraising. and beyond that, moore says he doesn't even know the women who have come forward with accusations. >> i did not know these two
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women. >> so you definitely didn't know beverly nelson? >> i didn't know beverly nelson or leigh corfman. i never engaged in sexual misconduct with anybody. you have to understand, i was deputy distinct attorney and then the circuit judge. i go by the law. it's very hypocritical to go by this law and enforce it and then vie later it. you just don't do that. and i didn't do that. and that's what is being alleged. it's very hurtful. >> one of moore's accusers says she told family and friends after he allegedly touched her inappropriately when she was 14 years old. >> roy moore denies these allegations and, further, says he does not even know you. >> i wonder how many women he
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doesn't know. >> michael bender of the "wall street journal," molly ball, lauren fox. bender, i'm going to start with you on this, trump's involvement in this campaign essentially backing roy moore is coming as a surprise and disappointment to a lot of leaders on capitol hill. they wanted a different outcome. his involvement comes with obviously upsides for roy moore. but it does come with some consequences for the republican brand and trump himself possibly. >> possibly. but i think what we've seen from president trump and his political calculations, it's very short term. he's not worried about the long-term brand like mitch mcconnell would be or the long-term implications for the legislative agenda. he's focused on the near term. he wants immediate wins. we've seen that repeatedly. he talked about these major legislative issues that can take years of singular focus and he
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expects them to be done right away. it's almost as simple as that. then you have another layer here. this is a very familiar scenario for president trump. he obviously faced similar accusations in the waiting days of his own campaign and that became a litmus test to see who is loyal to him and it was something that his former chief of staff reince priebus encouraged him to get out of the race over and trump never f forgave him for that. trump is returning the favor here to roy moore and, you know, i think the one surprising thing for me here is that trump was on the other side of the this primary. >> luther strange, right? >> incumbent republican. and this is a president who never sort of misses the opportunity to say i told you so, i was right. this is an opportunity for trump to say he was right about this race. he picked the right guy from the start. instead, he's doubling down.
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hard for me to imagine a democrat winning in alabama. but if trump loses twice in alabama, it would be pretty stunning. >> molly, moore commented on the climate with women coming forward. here's what he had to say. >> women are very special. it's a very special time because a lot of people are coming out and it's very, very good for women and i'm very happy that these things are coming out. >> but do you believe the accuser? >> what did you make of those comments there? >> there obviously is a cultural moment here and we're seeing it increasingly in politics and i think you can see also in the testimony of roy moore's accusers that they have been propelled by the cultural tail wind that the increasing cultural norm of believing women instead of tearing them down or
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at least hearing them out, which i think might have been the norm in an earlier era or even very recently, that's given women a lot of strength to come forward and helps explain why these rumors have never come to light until now. you can imagine a much more negative cultural climate towards these accusations. of course, it's very interesting for trump to be talking about expressing approval for this movement and approval for women coming forward and talking about these things. at the same time, as he says, it's very trumpian, he says, at the same time as we listen to  these women. >> ivanka trump came out and made a strong statement, that there's a special place in hell for people who abuse children. he also seems to be casting doubt on the authenticity of the "access hollywood" tape,
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according to "the new york times." moore is now out with a new ad and here he is with a new ad in his campaign. >> my name is roy moore and i approve this message. >> five state campaigns, 40 years of honorable service. roy moore has been intensity scrutinized and not a hint of scandal. but four weeks before the convention, the republican establishment for protecting their big government trump but we know a vote for roy moore means conservative judges, tax cuts and rebuilding the military. roy moore, the right choice. >> in some ways, it's sort of a standard issue ad, roy moore talking about tax cuts, saying that he's going to go to washington and clean it up. >> which is very interesting, given the fact that a lot of republicans in congress are not sure that roy moore is a vote
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for the gop agenda and it's like, okay, that's news to a lot of people on capitol hill. he's clearly jumping over everything that is the specifics of any allegations and putting up those words, false allegations, is all you're getting in terms of lip service towards the current crisis although i guess not a hint of scandal thing, too, is trying to paint the picture. juxtapose that with what doug jones is doing which is putting up the pictures of these women and going on and on, i mean, it's -- >> he's got a new ad out and we can run that ad, since you mentioned it. >> jeff sessions says, i have no reason to doubt these women and richard shelby says, "absolutely not vote for roy moore." doing what's right. >> and this is a different
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tactic for doug jones with this ad. >> absolutely. he talks about jeff sessions believing the women and i think that is stunning, given what trump said earlier this week. i mean, the position of those two, two weeks ago the mood on capitol hill was they were going to do everything they could to push moore out of this race and clearly donald trump coming in at the last moment gives roy more to run on. >> you can see what he's trying to do, get those crossover votes and in a republican state, you need to win a statewide campaign. and i think the sessions thing is especially powerful. i was reporting on the primary a couple of weeks ago and there is certainly a lot of loyalty to trump. he's got a high approval rating with alabama republicans but they like jeff sessions even better and the one thing that made them kind of mad at trump was when he seemed to turn on jeff sessions, the republican voters of alabama absolutely took jeff sessions' side and
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he's the hometown boy. >> it will be interesting, for doug jones to win, he's going to need african-american voters to be excited and it doesn't look like they are necessarily excited and also need white voters to stay home and the white voters that show up to vote differently. next, it's down to the senate. president trump has called tax reform a gift he hopes is ready just in time for christmas. but can the gop actually deliver? but first, politicians say the darnedest thing with the president's foul humor. >> as many of you know, i've been very active in overturning a number of executive actions by my predecessor. however, i have been informed by the white house counsel's office that tater and tots pardons cannot under any circumstances be revoked.
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everybody's talking about the progress you've made in the last few months. we said, go away, we're going to fight to win. we're not fighting anymore to just walk around. we're fighting to win. and you people are really -- you've turned it around over the last three to four months like nobody's seen and they are talking about it. we're being talked about it again as armed forces. we're really winning. we know how to win. but we have to let you win. they weren't letting you win before. they were letting you play even. we're letting you win. >> the president doesn't have any major legislation in the win column but has that winning rhetoric thing down pat. another topic trump is happy to talk about is the economy. here he is talking to troops on
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thanksgiving about what they should be thankful for. >> the economy is doing really great. when you come back, you're going to see with the jobs and companies coming back into our country and the stock market just hit a record high, unemployment is the lowest it's been in 17 years so you're fighting for something real and fighting for something good. now we're working on tax cuts, big, beautiful, fat tax cuts. you're going to really see things happen. >> trump is heading to capitol hill tuesday to meet with senate republicans about their version of the tax plan. he's also meeting with the so-called big four, mcconnell, schumer, ryan and pelosi. lauren, you've been covering this. talk about the president's role as the cheerleader behind this bill really to getting done on the hill this week. >> this is it for republican agenda items this year. they failed on the affordable care act on repealing it. this is the major agenda item. president trump's rule here is very interesting in that i don't
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know if he's going to be able to sell this plan and make some of the people who are on the line like senator susan collins of maine turn around and say the president voted for capitol hill. i don't think that's what his role is here. it's broader in that if they do pass this bill, he wants to make sure that he can say, look what i did on capitol hill. look who i talked to and convinced. >> and molly, here he is talking about how it really is up to republicans to get this done. >> with the democrats giving us no votes for tax cuts for purely political reasons, obstructionists, it will be up to the republicans to come through for america. i think they will. i hope they will. it's up to the senate. >> he also tweeted that republican senators are, working hard to get tax cuts. he's focused on this in a way that he wasn't with obamacare, the repeal efforts. >> right. and you can understand how for a person with trump's background
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and who is not -- who doesn't particularly like paying taxes, that this would resonate with him in a way that health care didn't necessarily. he's obviously personally passionate about people's tax bills but i think it's also really interesting in that clip where you hear him again talking about republicans as they. >> yeah, as if he's not part of that. >> he did the same thing on health care and it tells you two different things. number one, he doesn't necessarily see himself as part of the team. he is looking at the republicans and democrats as being a critic and pusher and cheerleader, as you said but, number two, he sees himself as sort of a spectator in this process. he's watching it unfold and cheering them on and trying to nudge where he can but he's not actually in there in the trenches. he's not crafting the legislation and not really voicing supporter opposition to any particular provisions in the bill. he's just watching it unfold and trying to help where he can.
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>> and after that, we'll see what happens, if tax reform, the vote is this week. other agenda items that he's going to have to deal with going forward. the government shutdown, that deadline looming december 8th. will we get the re-emergence of the chuck and nancy show. >> it's a different bill than exists in the house. >> and just based on the timeline, they are trying to do this quickly. they are running into issues with who wins alabama senate after that. you know, certain senators, john mccain is not doing as well as before. hoping that they can get everything done before they have to worry about putting those numbers together. but, yes, moving forward, they have to get a budget bill through. otherwise, there will be another government shutdown and that never quite plays well even if it is getting the government
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what we want. the what we want is not really there as part of the discussion this time so they have to get that money on the table. >> and be part of that? >> probably not. that is the open -- one of the open questions. daca is an open question. there's a really important surveillance provision if they want to keep the nsa to be able to look at foreign targets overseas and to be able to do that, there's a privacy debate going on whether the intelligence community is going to lose its number one tool, basically. so there are all of these discussions but right now nobody is discussing it because everybody is so focused on tax reform. so that means you're probably going to have this happen rather quickly or you have a short-term extension and trying to work this stuff out and that's always fun. >> unclear what happens with tax reform if the obamacare mandate is a part of that and what that means for democrats' moves as a
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part of that. the other thing on the to-do list is appointing a cfpb leader. that's something that the president said he wants to do. we'll see on monday who wins the battle and who is in charge there. this is something that is top of mind for a lot of democrats as well. warren, who was part of the founding of this board, she tweeted this less than a decade after taxpayers bailed out the big banks, the banking industry made record profits last year. that's who you're worried about, donald trump. and she was responding to this, the president who tweeted this, a little twitter war after thanksgiving. cfpb has been a total disaster. financial institutions have been devastated and unable to properly serve the public. we'll bring it back to life. this is going to be a fight.
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and it's a fight that both sides want. >> and that's a good fight for both sides to have but who is surprised here that the trump administration is facing a personnel crisis? they were caught flat-footed here with cordray's departure and with the decision to appoint their own successor. they scrambled to have mulvaney slide into that slot. but there are dozens of appointees and nominations that trump has not made from really glaring holes in the state department and he just sort of fixed some openings on the national labor relations board. >> right. >> had essentially left democrats to control. and also if i could just make a step back here, too, on trump's pivot into the senate this week, it's just going to be really interesting to see how he comes out here.
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you mentioned the tax reform is what an mates him here. but these are folks in the senate that want to know the details. ron johnson is in the weeds here on what he wants to see. >> the branding. >> yes, broadsweeping generalities that works very well on tv and in campaigns but these are folks whose votes are going to be dependent on the details. and get it through the house and the entire republican conference in the house when public opinion turned on him. >> and lisa murkowski, ron johnson, john mccain, we'll see how it shapes up this week. capitol hill consumed by
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facing an ethics investigation after he used taxpayer dollars to settle a complaint from a former staffer who claims she was fired because she refused sexual advancements from conyers. >> enough is enough. at this point, what i am voicing publicly is what every single private citizen is saying across america. why are the rules for politicians in washington different than they are for everyone else? right now what we're talking about is there going to be any level of accountability and an ethics committee can sometimes take a couple of years, but that's not real and that's not accountability. >> she is in many ways alone on
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this with most folks saying it should go to the ethics committee how does congress move forward on this? what do they do? >> this is a real moment of reckoning to see if congress can handle this within their own ranks and if they'll be able to see the misdeeds among everybody else and not their own. there is already a move that has some support to change the way the allegations are handled. the conyers case, you can see how flawed that process was. i guess nobody should be surprised that the people who write the rules write the rules to favor them. that's the case in many situations involving politicians. but the process seems to be set up to protect members of congress instead of the alleged victims of these kinds of behavior. and so there's a move to change what has been a confidential process that really put victims at a disadvantage. i don't think that's going to be
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enough for a lot of people. i think a lot of people are going to want to see, as congresswoman was saying, was to see this handled in a way that doesn't seem like a partisan matter. if this becomes the other team's problem and the people on my team are blameless, that is going to, i think, really put a bad taste in people's mouth. >> along with representative rice there, the detroit free press, their editorial board has called on representative conyers to resign. the revelations of conyers alleged sexual harassment scandal and documented use of taxpayer dollars to bury that scandal in violation of ethics rules is less ambiguous and the kind of behavior that can never be tolerated much less an elected representative of the people that is their take on it. very hard to get people to resign and leaders in some ways may not be as powerful as they once were and you talk about
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somebody like conyers, 88 years old, longest serving member in the house and he's not going anywhere. >> ultimately it's up to conyers because the process to remove somebody is either -- there's a high political hurdle. or it take as very long time for the ethics committee to do its due diligence and listen to everybody on both sides. the leaders do not have as much power as they'd like to have. and this is why we're seeing it play out the way it is. i want to take issue with one thing that congressman rice said. she's saying why are the rules different from everybody else? they are not. the system is not like it's perfect for every waitress in america. we're having -- harvey weinstein lost his company on the basis of this and now the spotlight has shifted to congress and they need to change their own rules to get credibility. but what they are going to need to do is set an example for the rest of the country because there's nothing that protects
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the average blue collar, white collar, what have you, every person. and so you kind of need this to go a certain way in order to start having that discussion, nonglittering and nonhollywood center of government d.c. level. >> and congresswoman dingell agrees with you. here's what she had to say about the climate. >> there's more names coming. i've heard them for years. any man that has practiced just despicable, irresponsible behavior needs to be worried. congress needs to lead on passing legislation that holds people accountable doesn't make the taxpayers pay for it, has everybody pay for it and it's transparent. >> lauren, we'll see some movement next week in terms of legislation coming up on the hill. >> right. and already on capitol hill, they have voted to have mandatory sexual harassment
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training. it's kind of incredible that that wasn't required before. but i think what we'll see is as the ethics investigations unfold, they can take years. this is not going away. the spotlight is not going away and we'll continue to see legislation moving forward. >> and in terms of the consequences for 2018, if you flashback to the year of the women in 1992, kind of as a result of a lot of the conversation that we're having right now about sexual harassment, that time involving clarence thomas, some numbers in terms of women wanting to run, it shows that there does appear to be a surge in 2018, 354 potential female candidates up from 181 in 2016, u.s. senate 38 potential candidates, up from 19. this could have some sort of effect in terms of enthusiasm in
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how women vote and run. >> i do think there's an optimistic view right now in terms of where we are broadly as a culture and sort of the minute-by-minute news cycle to think that we're still talking about this in november. although, that said, it's a cultural moment. this has lasted through several news cycles. "the washington post" reporter who broke the charlie rose story was talking about her reporting. this started reporting this seven years ago and couldn't get it out because she was hitting dead ends that women didn't want to talk. now with the current climate, these women are more willing to talk and regardless of where the debate goes, it needs to go forward. that, at least, is a positive sign right now. if women are more willing to talk about this and it's not acceptable, it's a baby step and electorally, let's see what effect this has in alabama.
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trump won wisconsin. >> you seem to want to cut in here. >> alabama may not be the greatest litmus test in this particular regard. if roy moore gets elected, there may be a backlash from other states because it doesn't sit well in other places that may not have as much of a bond with the candidate. it seems like a lot of people have a bond with roy moore. so if he gets in, that could actually fuel the year of the women thing more than it being the litmus test for is it going to work or is it not. it depends on what happens then and then who else is campaigning and how the conversation goes in those places. >> it will be fascinating to watch. still ahead, michael flynn's lawyers in communications with team trump. what the change could mean for the russia investigation.
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the lines of communications between donald trump's lawyers and michael flynn's lawyers are now closed. a source familiar with the matter told cnn that the move could indicate that flynn is preparing to plead guilty in the mueller investigation.
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trump's lawyers, jay sekulow said not so fast. what do you make of this new revelation that came out last week? >> flynn has been a big question mark for a long time. he approached the congressional committees and there was question whether he would be asking for immunity. more recently we've seen his work for turkey -- the lobbying that he did, it was forred a voe ka for advocating for certain positions and it gets into turkish politics but it's significant because the thing that brought manafort into the
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cross hairs was the lobbying work that he did and he broke the law, in that sense, is what mueller is alleging. flynn has to worry about himself in a way that may be more critical, frankly, than whatever he knows or can say about the president. is this a question about pleading guilty? we don't know. but mueller's probe is very, very broad and he has flynn on something else that is a do or die situation for flynn and could very easily say this is the time to talk and then, you know, he only complicates his own position if he continues to talk to the president. the more that they talk, the more that there is -- frankly, flynn is actually a focus of mueller where something is going to happen if he's the next person. >> frankly, the separation, in a way, could protect both of them but also flynn has been in a situation where people have been looking at him like he has something to say and we know
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that he has this around his neck for what he did. >> and at least one republican saying that the white house should be worried. >> i would be concerned if i were perhaps in the white house. when families are involved, people are going to have to do what they can to protect themselves and their families. i don't know that anybody should feel particularly comfortable right now. i would not be relaxed. >> and the family that's involved here is jared kushner. he's going to have to turn over some more documents of the senate committee this next week coming up by monday, i believe, and we've also have heard two big stories about him where he's saying, i'm laying low. i'm not in it the way that i used to be. i used to be sort of the secretary of everything and now i'm the secretary of nothing at this point and they are the headlines from "the times" and "the washington post." what did you make about those
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stories? >> kushner gave an interview for "the washington post" and validates that theory. he talks very willingly about his changing responsibilities. but -- and sort of his winning influence is more than just the new white house chief of staff. john kelly, former marine, has instituted command and control in that white house that didn't happen in the beginning. but i think his lack of influence in the white house right now is just sort of -- has as much to do with his own track record. a special office was created for jared kushner at the beginning of this administration. he was able to hire and fire and set the direction of this office. and from what my sources are telling me, the sort of founding documents of this office, the one that set the big, broad goals for this office, there's a wide gap between what they set out to do and what their accomplishments have been in this first year. >> he has said that during the campaign i was more like a fox
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than a hedge hog and going deep and trying to promote change. molly, quickly on this one, i don't know if you're a fox or hedgehog but this assessment of jared's role is different from what we've seen from jared before where we'd read about jared taking credit for whatever was good in the white house. >> and these articles are certainly accurate. according to my sources as well, that his role has shrunk, i think it's very interesting, as you pointed out, that he parted in "the post" story that he wants people to know that his role is shrinking and you have to wonder, why is that? is he putting distance there or does someone want him to put distance between himself and the center of power. >> next up, our reporters give you a glimpse of stories that are making headlines, including the president's trips to sell
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president trump returns from his thanksgiving break today with time running out on his tax reform package. to help push it along, trump is going to pull a familiar page from his page book to be delivered this week in a purple state where, unsurprisingly, a democratic senator is seeking re-election in 2018. can trump avoid the unforced errors that normally cause him needless distractions and can he share the kind of discipline and follow-through in the days and weeks to come that are necessary? the fate of the party's last
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chance hangs in the balance. >> and see if he can get a democratic vote. karoun? >> there's going to be a very interesting hearing happening in the senate judiciary committee and they have pushed ahead that the president wants to have confirmed but that there is not really approval for. traditionally what happens is any state where a senator represents, when a senator is affected, has to approve of a nominee before it goes forward. it's called a blue ship process. republicans hinted that they were not going to honor that process for the circuit court nominees and now we're seeing the people come together for a confirmation hearing. it's not going to be so much about what they say that justifies their own nominations as to what the lawmakers are saying to each other because this is the opening round of a very ugly fight. this is the last best block. things like the muslim ban, et
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cetera, and republicans really want to clear the road to get these people through. so this will be the first act of what's likely to be a very, very long process. >> conservatives and liberals will be watching that closely. >> yeah. >> molly? >> the head of the consumer financial protection bureau abruptly stepped down from his post and named his chief of staff to act in his place. meanwhile, the trump administration named the director of the office management and budget mick mulvaney. two people could show up to the same job on monday and there's duelling legal opinions. cordray is not going away. a hero of battling the banks along with elizabeth warren and he's expected to succeed john kasich as a democrat. we have a crowded field on both sides. there will be a republican primary in that crucial
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battleground of ohio next year. >> and this fight has probably given him a bit of a boost in terms of his name i.d. you're next. >> as sort of sexual harassment allegations have rattled capitol hill, i've been asking about names dropping and everybody is looking over their shoulder and concerned about this. i talked with congress mike simpson of idaho and he said that to sort of head off the process of any concerns that women in his office may have had about colleagues or even jokes that may get told in the office, he said, listen, i want you guys to feel like this is an open door policy. i want you to come talk to me if you're ever concerned. i want to make sure that this is a good work environment and i thought that was really interesting that they really want to make sure that women in their offices, you know, they know what sexual harassment is but want to make sure that other lines are not being crossed in their workplaces. >> you hope that similar
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conversations are going on across the country and i'll close with this. state leaders across the country are watching congress' agenda very closely to see if the children's health insurance program makes their to-do list known as c.h.i.p. congress missed the december deadline to extend the funding which means a handful of states could run out of funding in the next few weeks and many more in the next few months. and look for this battle to heat up in the next few weeks as congress deals with governors running and they look to d.c. to resolve a pressing issue for their states. thanks for being with us this sunday. next, a bit of bipartisan. senators lindsey graham and dick durbin talk taxes, the about uj jet and more on "state of the union." stay tuned. run...
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