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struggling mainly due to health stair scares and a massive data breach. that's it for this morning. thanks for joining us. >> the mayor of london says a visit by president trump would not be welcome. "new day" has the latest for you. see you tomorrow. >> jared kushner has met with jared kushner has met with robert mueller's team. the special counsel's team really wanted to talk about michael flynn. >> jared kushner is a crucial witness in virtually every part of mueller's investigation. >> the president's tweet sparking an international incident. >> our allies in england are mad as hell. >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real. >> we have a president who is paying almost no attention to the responsibilities as an international leader.
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>> three women telling variety magazine they were harassed by lawyer. >> they weren't sure how he would react. >> i think they will feel a rolling impact. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". it is 6:00 in new york. several big developments in the russia investigation. special counsel bob mueller's investigators are apparently encroaching on president trump's inner circle now. they are looking into actions taken by senior officials at the white house. cnn first to report that senior adviser and trump son-in-law jared kushner met with mueller's team to answer questions specifically about fired national security adviser michael flynn. now, a world leader denouncing president trump for retweeting three anti-muslim videos posted
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by an ultra nationalist fringe group. the white house defending the president's tweeting despite a history of anti-muslim rhetoric. the president's recent behavior is raising questions about his fitness for office. today the senate will begin debating the gop's tax bill with the republicans still divided over the details. can they secure enough votes? and stunning new details about matt lauer. new accusations of sexual misconduct. what did nbc executives know and will with ever hear from matt lauer. we have a lot to cover. evan perez is live in washington with our top story. >> reporter: good morning alisyn. jared kushner set for questions by robert muellerment the questions kushner answered by the team were largely focused on the former national security adviser, michael flynn, who is
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under investigation by the special counsel. abby lowell told us mr. kushner voluntarily cooperated with all relevant inquiries and will continue to do soment the kushner interview lasted less than 90 minutes. investigators appeared to be trying to see if kushner had any information that exonerates michael flynn. kushner worked closely with flynn during the transition in the early days of the administration. flynn's lawyers recently ended an information-sharing deal in a sign that flynn is discussing a plea agreement with special counsel. yet another indication of those talks may be heating up as mueller's team has postponed an anticipated grand jury testimony that is part of the flynn investigation. prosecutors had asked pluck relations consultant to provide testimony to the grand jury. they were given a december date to provide testimony but prosecutors now delayed that. meanwhile, over in congress,
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donald trump jr. has agreed to come back to provide another interview to the house intelligence committee. so we have lots of moving pieces in the multiple russia investigation. chris and alisyn. >> evan, thank you very much. appreciate the reporting and bringing this up to speed. cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin and phil mudd. jeffrey, when we see these developments, the idea of the first notion, it seems that the investigators are moving towards the inner circle. one, is that how investigations work? do you work outside in generally? and what do you see in the latest round of reporting about the talks. >> well, first of all, yes. that's generally how investigators work in any sort of investigation in any organization. whether it's an insider trading ring or organized crime family. you start with the more peripheral figures, see what you can get out of them and ask questions toward the center of the group. as for what's happening right
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now, certainly the most important substantive development has been the fact that michael flynn's lawyers are no longer cooperating, participating with a joint defense agreement with trump lawyers and other lawyers that certainly suggest that flynn is in the process of negotiating with the mueller office. whether that ends in a guilty plea or it doesn't, i don't pretend to know at this point. but certainly that and this interview that evan was talking about which suggests -- rec, jared kushner has information relevant to every part of mueller's investigation, whether it's russia, obstruction of justice, firing of james comey. kushner is everywhere. but he's asking about michael flynn, which suggests he is at the center of what's going on now. >> what do you see about the new threads with jared kushner speaking to special counsel? >> the timing to me is significant, as we were just talking about, the fact that the
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information focused on flynn and not the comey firing suggests the reporting we have seen there might be a deal between special counsel and flynn is maybe accurate. i would agree with jeffrey on a critical point. when you're conducting one of these investigations, you do not want to talk into that room not knowing the answers to at least half the questions they're asking. you're looking for corroboration. the fact that they are having this conversation with kushner tells me they are close to making a decision on what they are going to do in the flynn case. you don't talk to kushner until you have looked at the peripheral players, the financial information. they will come out with something soon. >> and to correct some misconceptions, one, does it look like flynn is negotiate something. >> yes. does that mean he's trading for information higher up the scale or closer to the president? no.
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he he could be cutting a deal on what they know about him and his reporting of his finances and lobbying efforts. >> but why cut a deal if they weren't going anything out? >> couple better some nature of prosecution. they want to focus on russia and not deal with that. or maybe he is giving them information. but it's not a given. >> and maybe, to be fair, he doesn't know incriminating information about other people. you say why is he not given a deal -- >> if he is not delivering anything. >> you have no information that he did anything else wrong. make him plead guilty to crime x. >> sometimes economy of justice. they have a lot of their plate. these came up. they believe they have prosecutable differences. just because he came in to talk about flynn does not mean he
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will not come in again to talk about other things. >> absolutely. when you think about jared kushner, there is no figure in this investigation, not donald trump jr., not even the president, who has as much information about as many subjects of special counsel's jurisdiction as jared kushner. >> he checks a lot of boxes of disclosure gaps. i do not mean in any way to repute any sense of wrongdoing. but he has had to amend the disclosure forms several times. it has come up several times in reporting that kushner was connected to things or knew about things we didn't initially understand from his own reckoning of events. >> what we have talked about is what kushner might say about flynn. he is rightly -- we are being fully transparent. there is not half of the story
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here. when you walk in the room, you know if you asked about meetings or conversations that flynn participated in, you already had half the answers. we know the mueller team will indict people for lying to a federal officer. that is not a benign conversation. my point is when he answers questions about what happens in the meetings and they say, hey, four people told us one thing and kushner told us something else, he's at risk for getting a charge for lying. so that conversation better be very careful because the feds already know a lot. >> let me pull up a full screen that we have that shows the numbers. i know it's hard for everyone at home to keep track of all the different threads. here it captures exactly how many trump associates had contacts with russia. twelve. at least 19 face-to-face interactions with russians that we know of from campaign and related officials. at least 51 communications,
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meetings, phone calls, e-mail exchanges and others. at least nine occasions where trump and senior officials of the campaign denied having any contacts. >> even though it is a smaller number, it's the most important one. it launches suspicion for prosecutors like jeffrey used to be. you tell me i don't know, we never met, i should be embarrassed. and then you find out that is not true. that is a powerful medicine to prosecutors. when they know they have been deceased, even if it was benign. like you just didn't think it mattered. you didn't want to make something out of your own reckoning. >> when you look at the president's lawyers and those associated with the trump campaign and now the trump presidency, was there some sort of contact between the trump campaign and russia.
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absolutely not. didn't happen. that has changed. >> right. >> because of all of these disclosures. well, nothing illegal took place. >> phil mudd says it all the time. when you feel that someone is being deceptive it just puts you on a trail that becomes hard to get off of. i have never been involved in an investigation where that wasn't true. where someone didn't say, listen, incident was your guy who told us something that wasn't true. >> phil mudd, jeffrey toobin, thank you very much. meanwhile, president trump under fire for retweeting anti-muslim videos and elevating this fringe ultra nationalist group in the uk. the president firing back at the british prime minister after she denounced mr. trump. this as questions grow about the president's behavior in the past couple weeks and his competent. joe johns has more on this live at the white house. hi, joe.
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>> reporter: good morning, alisyn. this is what the president does, stepping on his own message, distracting from his own agenda with often shocking side bars into dark places, including the conspiracy zone. it has become habitual behavior, on full display the last 24 hours. president trump in missouri touting what could be his first major legislative win. >> these massive tax cuts will be rocket fuel. >> reporter: but any traction is being overshadowed by wild stphultss, inflammatory tweets and long debunked conspiracy theories, raising questions about his competent. a source close says mr. trump is doubting his decision to acknowledge that president barack obama was born in the u.s. trump believing he would have done better if he continued to peddle his birther conspiracy.
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>> why doesn't he show his birth certificate. >> reporter: white house aides have given up trying to stop the inflammatory remarks after the president retweeted three inflammatory videos shows muslims creating acts of violence. the leader of britain first who posted the videos, praising mr. trump, as did former kkk leader david duke. >> this is like the president retweeting the ku klux klan. this is not a mainstream organization. our greatest ally of the country to be retweeting, to be providing a microphone to those voices. >> reporter: world leaders condemning his retweets. and british prime minister theresa may saying it's wrong for the president to have done this. refusing to let that go, the president firing back that theresa may should focus on combatting radical islamic
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terrorism in her country rather than focus on him. the white house discounting questions over the voracity of the videos. >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real. that is what the president is talking about. that is what the president is focused on, dealing with the real threats. those are real no matter how you look at it. >> reporter: lawmakers auto capitol hill put in a position to explain the president's tweets. >> this is not constructive. i'm not sure what the purpose of that was. >> why? it is inappropriate. >> i don't know what you gain by doing this. >> the controversy from the muslim mayor. president trump used twitter to promote a vial extremist group. it is increasingly clear that
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any official visit from president trump to britain would not be welcomed. chris and alisyn, back to you. >> thank you very much. two very big questions we have to pursue this morning in this category of news. one is why is the president doing this? you didn't say he's not talking about all muslims. it is the extremists. why? what does this reflect about the strength of the president's competence next.
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good morning questions about president trump's behavior after he retweeted anti-muslim videos. here's the new york daily news editorial calling him a mad man. after his latest spasm of deranged tweets, only those completely under his spell can deny. he is profoundly unstable. he is mad. he is by any honest layman's definition, memorily unwell and viciously lashing out. let's bring in david drucker and karoun deper january.
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these are he's done enough things that are so questionable that now allies such as britain are questioning, karoun, what his mental state is. all of these british officials who want prime minister theresa may to uninvite president trump from the uk. he was supposed to go next year. here is labor m.p. steve endowedy. this is the president of the united states sharing with millions divisive content by someone who represents a vial fascist organization. trump is either a racist, in competent or unthinking or all three. >> that's a very significant rebuke. theresa may will be under a lot of pressure to make sure she does not extend the typical diplomatic courtesies.
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it shows -- if it's -- look, clearly he knew he was tweeting anti-muslim videos. it is ignorance. it is not okay if you're a global leader. and not to apologize for it after the fact given how this has shaken the uk. as you just said, we cannot armchair diagnose. i certainly don't have a medical degree or psychological degree to do anything like that. but the fact that people are asking these questions is troubling, and the president is not seeming to care. he is answering to himself in this regard and does not seem to mind even when other foreign leaders are saying stop. that's not okay. you really have gone too far here. >> once again, we have just seen the echo from the white house itself. scaramucci's words echo in my own head. well, sarah sanders has the
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balance of telling the truth and protecting the president. all she needed to say, all he needed to say is it's not all muslims. i'm retweeting these things, kwroe care about the source because these radical branch of nonreligious people, they are the problem. it's not about all muslims. that's all they had to say. they didn't say it. it is not because the president is insane, david. he would pass any competency test. this is who he is. he likes to start a fight. and he feels he's under attack and he fights dirty. and that's what he's doing. this is him at his best, not necessarily at his most diseased. >> look, it is an example of the president never transitioning from being a brand manager of a closely held family business to a team leader and the president of the united states. and this is how he is most
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comfortable operating. the point here is not whether or not the president's policy prescriptions for the threat of radical jihadism are correct or not. i think the problem, number one, is that when you engage in promoting extremist groups with questionable sourcing, it undermines a very valid point which there is a threat of radical jihadism that are at the forefront of trying to deal with. all this does is undermine u.s. policy in that regard. even that aside, getting into a spat with one of our most important allies, during the campaign. but getting into a spot with the prime minister and putting the british government with its own voters can have profound consequences for u.s. diplomacy
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and military that could reverberate for years. >> the london mayor, who as you know has squabbled with president trump in the past is calling on the prime minister theresa may to disinvite the president from next year. and theresa may is in a pickle. does she seem to endorse some of this. if she disinvites, they are major allies. what to do. >> it's putting her in a situation where she has to choose between trump or filling harmony in her own country. we will see if there is a middle ground, if she can downgrade the scope of the visit. a disinvitation say very dramatic move. clearly the american president started this by tweeting out the videos. but if her reaction is to say, huh-uh, stay home, that also potentially has consequences for what is a very close alliance and partnership for the uk.
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they do not -- especially now, the uk is in a situation where they are looking down the barrel of going it alone after they voted to split off the union. that a lines matters. if they're afraid of provoking trump and having stronger backlash, that might be a reason she would not heed the london mayor's call. it puts her in a situation where she will do peacemaking on the home front without upsetting what is a very important partnership. and she didn't start this. so that is not exactly an ideal situation for her to be in. >> look, i don't think the president's behavior should be shocking or surprise to go anybody. this is who he is. when you tend to govern the way you campaign. he has praoufrpb that over time. what is significant when the president does things that impact domestic politics and policy, we can debate about the wisdom of what he's doing and talk about some of the fallout but also maybe some of the benefits for the president's parting his policies.
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>> yeah. >> but when we're talking about international impact and possibly creating rifts with allies that impact the country globally, that's where this starts to veer off political discussion and into more of a competence discussion and whether or not the president's choices are going to outlast him in a way that isn't helpful to the country. >> i would be slow to give him the excuse of not being in control. or being somehow mentally sick. i wouldn't give him that excuse. there is no real proof of that. this is who he has always been. >> maggie haberman said she senses an acceleration. >> absolutely. >> we will talk about that later. >> karoun and david, thank you very much. now to this story, hours after firing matt lauer, nbc confirms two new allegations of sexual misconduct against the former "today" show host and the details are so disturbing about what the women say he did to them.
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new details about the stunning downfall of "today" show host matt lauer. "new york times" and "variety" detailing disturbing allegations of misconduct against him from women on his staff. cnn senior media correspondent brian stelter joins us now with more. brian, this is so much worse than any of us on the outside suspected. >> yes. and it explains partly why nbc acted so quickly after learning on an allegation monday night, lauer was fired tuesday night. now we know why. >> this is a sad day at "today" and nbc news. >> alarming new allegations emerging against matt lauer. a former nbc employee telling the "new york times" that in 2001 lauer summoned her to his
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office, locked the door and sexually assaulted her. she says she never reported the incident because she felt a shamed and feared losing her job. "variety" magazine reporting accounts of three men who say lauer harassed them. one said he gave her a sex toy and detailed in a note how he wanted to use it on her. another employee says he exposed himself in her office and reprimanded her for not engage anything a sexual act. lauer was fixated on women, especially their bodies and looks and was known for making lewd comments verbally or over text messages. the big question who knew what, when? variety said they tried to alert executives about lauer's behavior. in response, nbc says we can say up equivocally that, prior to monday night, current nbc news management, was never made aware of any complaints about matt lauer's conduct. nbc has known that damaging
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stories were coming. in a staff memo, andy lack alluded to this saying on wednesday, we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident. on monday night, a female nbc employee and her attorney met with nbc hr and detailed egregious acts of misconduct. the behavior began in 2014 at the sochi olympics and continued after that assignment. that accuser is remaining anonymous, as are the women speaking to "variety" and the "new york times". for now the handling against lauer is getting praised from the accuser's attorney. our impression at this point is that nbc acted quickly and responsibly. sit our hope that nbc will continue to do what it can to repair the damage done to my client, their employee, and any other woman who may come forward. and bill o'reilly was also fired
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when allegations surfaced. >> think about those five women and what they did. they came forward and filed complaints against the biggest star at the network they worked at. think of how intimidating that must have been and how nerve-racking that must have been. doesn't that tell you how strongly they felt how they were treated by you. >> the morning show family tries to move on. >> i'm still dealing with the news of a friend of 30 years. we were all trying to process it. >> we are grappling with a dilemma that so many has faced. how do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly. >> women like savannah guthrie saying they have not heard or seen this side of matt lauer. but women speaking to "new york times" and "variety" with
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chilling accusations. >> context and timing matters. for them to have to deal with that having been told nothing as far as we know right before they go on. >> right before they went on. they had to process it on the air. >> remember, they're human beings. they had personal relationships. they had to deal with it professionally at the same time. i think they did as well as you could expect. let's come in now with "new york times" reporter who hemmed break some of the details that we are understanding right now, rachel abrams. we know you're busy on this one. brian said we haven't heard from matt lauer. not unusual in a situation where more and more is coming out. you guys have been working on a story before this. this may or may not have prompted quick action by nbc. where are you now in terms of your reporting versus what we've seen so far? is there still more? >> i think that we're talking accusations very, very seriously. we're obviously in the process of reporting on nbc and matt
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lauer, as has been reported in the process. nbc was aware we were looking into certain allegations, although i'm not sure they knew exactly what we were looking into. we continued to look into basically the onset kul can cher of the "today" show. we are looking into nbc. we saw the statement from andy lack saying they had no complaints for 20 years. we are curious whether or not there were problems. as we know with fox, fox maintains there were no hr complaints. but we know there wasn't problematic behavior. >> i want to talk about that. this is so much different than fill hand tkering. there has been rumors about fill hand tkering. these are the euphemisms we learned no longer apply in this climate. you can't say someone was a womanizer if in fact, they were a predator. in your piece and in "variety," it is is so much different than anyone thought it was.
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this is deviant predatory behavior. can you share from your reporting whether anybody in management there knew about that level of this stuff? >> we're still asking those questions and doing that reporting. what i will say is matt lauer, a lot of people we spoke to would say, yes, we knew that he had affairs. and what i would have to tell sources a lot is i don't care about somebody's personal life. i don't care about consenting adult relationships. we don't care about that. it's not our business. but matt lauer was one of the most powerful people at nbc. so what we care about is if these women felt pressured. if they were pressured. if these unequal power dynamics led to behavior that was not consensual and inappropriate. when you're at that level and having an intimate relationship with subordinate, we as reporters have to ask that question. >> good for you looking at it that way. it's not easy to do. here's why.
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the bold-faced name is so appealing to the media and the audiences and your readership that it is hard to get to the next level. we were talking before the segment, fox news, cbs news, nbc. these are low hanging fruit for us. this is our industry. it is easier to know things. who knows what's going on in other industries. we'll see. but the bigger questions, nbc, nothing for 20 years. all of this seems to just come out. a complaint verse is us what was known. you lived at fox. an official complaint put in a file versus something that was known. what has changed at fox? what has changed at cbs? what will change at nbc? it's easy to distract from those questions by getting or rid of a bold faced name. the culture is going to happen with management. it's going to happen that way, not just by who you fire. >> fox say they have
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strengthened their human resources department, sexual harassment training. >> what will they settle? how will they settle? those are important changes. >> the woman who spoke to you from 2001 said she was in matt lauer's office, that he summoned her for sex, she passed out and had to be taken to the nurse. she did not tell her bosses at nbc because she was a shamed. she felt like it was partly her fault, is that right, that she couldn't have reported it? >> she felt she should have done more. i worked on some of our other sexual a harassment coverages. there's a whole bunch of us. some things are common in these narratives with women. there is so much guilt wrapped up. what did i do to lead this on. they are complicated. it's not what a lot of people think of when they think of nonconsensual sex. and women themselves think that.
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that keeps people from lodging formal complaints or taking action. >> sexual harassment training is not going to do that but a cultural can change could. >> this is obviously a huge learning curve for men and women in this country. just because it's not at the end of a gun doesn't mean that you didn't have a horribly traumatic crime perpetrated. so we all need to talk about maybe it is time to start screaming when you think you're locked in one of your superior's rooms and he's making sexual advances. >> all accusations are different. so you have this which is a crime. as soon as i confine you in an environment. civilly it's false imprisonment. >> this is the 2001 event with a subordinate summoned to his room. >> the door was supposedly locked. then unconsented touching. you're in a criminal realm.
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no way to provide defense to any of the behavior. however, you have to look at them differently. is some of this stuff is rape. and that's a crime. then you have on the other side, what did he say what view he liked about somebody. i don't care about any of that. it goes to your corporate culture. but you have to look at these things in terms of different categories of what needs to be actionable. i applaud you saying i want to stay focused on this where it is abuse of power, it is criminal and covered up by a system where if there is not an official complaint it means a corporation can say they didn't know anything. those are interesting questions. >> obviously we will continue to have this conversation. thank you so much for sharing your reporting with us. brian, thank you. to other top news, north korea releasing video of its most powerful missile launch yet as nikki haley sends a sobering warning to kim jong-un. i saw the change in rich when we moved into the new house.
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all right. there is breaking news. a new report shows that the u.s.-led anti-isis coalition strikes killed at least 801 civilians in iraq and syria since the operation began in 2014. hundreds of other reports of civilian deaths are being looked into. the deaths happened during the more than 28,000 strikes in that period. coalition leaders say they're releasing the numbers to show accountability and that the coalition takes extraordinary care to protect civilians. north korea releasing new video of the powerful missile it launched this week. defense officials from south
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korea and japan calling this a new type of intercontinental ballistic missile significantly larger than the one pyongyang tested in july. u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nick k nicky haley issuing this dire warning. >> we have never sought war with north korea and still today we do not seek it. if war does come, it will be because of continued acts of aggression like we witnessed yesterday. and if war comes, make no mistake the north korean regime will be utterly destroyed. >> following the launch, president trump tweeted that more sanctions would be imposed on north korea. ni people who are enjoyed mild weather are about to be hit with a reality check. cnn meteorologist chad myers has our forecast. >> well, 63 in new york is not reality in december or even the
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end of november at all, alisyn. still good time for shopping, but cold air is on the way. this is brought to you by jared, the galleria of jewelry. get out and finish your shopping in the next 8 to 10 days. closer to home, rain today overnight in new york city. it is still is mild. we should be 49. d.c., 53. we're still going to be there for the next few days. but look at this area of purple. you never like purple whether it's on your lips or the weather map. that is where the cold air comes in. temperatures are nice the next few days. by friday and saturday of next week. we are almost 10 days away. this is when the true arctic blast comes in. i am hearing polar vortex on twitter and my eyes roll. >> polar vortex, let's not go there. president trump's recent behavior leading the question, why does he say these things? why does he in flame situations
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all right. president trump's recent behavior, retweeting anti-muslim videos, peddling debunked conspiracy theories, lavar ball. it is raising questions about what is going on in his head. "the art of the deal," he says people inside the white house are worried about what's going on with the president. let's bring him in. tony schwartz. good to see you, tony. what does it make you think?
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>> even if i hadn't heard this i would think what i think. i am connected to a large group of psychiatrists now who wrote this book "the dangerous case of donald trump." there's a pretty widespread feeling among them that this is a shift that's occurring that he has -- one of the people i know received successive calls from two different people from a white house number. so you don't know for sure. but from a white house number saying we're concerned the president is, in one case, decompensating, which is a psychological term for losing his grip on reality. so they saw something different. >> decompensation is a psychological term but also a medical term. what maintains homeostasis, your well-being. the your mechanisms are starting
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to break down. they had a concern whether or not he was well. >> exactly. and i think that's exactly what's happening. there is a small, very small percentage of people in the white house because i think a lot of them essentially function as either hostages or members of a cult. there are still some who when they hear things like that "access hollywood" tape wasn't real get very anxious. because that is completely unborn from reality. the issue, chris, is he has the bizarre advantage of sociopathy. that's what i think the issue is. he doesn't have an internal moral arbiter. he is willing to say anything. so no guilt or sense of questioning himself ever arises. >> the defense is this. he has a conscience.
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this is who he is and how he reacts to aggression as he perceives it. you want to mess with him in the media, he will attack you 24/7, he will think about nothing else because a fair criticism is he has a hyperfocus on what affects him. we are not used to seeing that as much in other presidents. but it doesn't make him sick, tony. make your side of the case. >> what happens to a person who has very, very deep and vast in security is that they're always attempting to prop themselves up. and under the circumstances, he's feeling a kind of pressure on his own sense of security and well-being that is unprecedented. it's one thing to act in this way that you are talking about toward cnn or me. it's quite another to do it when
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kim jong-un just sent off a missile that can get to washington and he's still acting as if he's on a playground, 9 years old, and taunting the kid across the play grouped. >> that can go to personality not competency. you can read through the bullet points you want. as you read them in succession it starts to ask, why is he missing with such insignificant stuff? going after lavar ball, making him so important. al frankenstein. going after al franken while obviously ignoring the larger conversation about sexual assault and harassment. going after the nfl time and time again. using language about black athletes. the way he defended roy moore. the pocahontas stuff. it tortured them into a position
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of trying not to recognize that fact. and most recently the videos. >> are you the prosecutor in the case here? >> i think you are. i think you don't want to be so quick to give someone the defensive illness when this is completely competent and voliti volitional. >> that is why associate sociopathy. it can be very sequential. he has an walked blend i think of dilution and deflection. the deflection and that list of things is deflecting from some of his vulnerabilities, most notably russia. and the i'm sure panicky feeling he has that they're getting closer and closer to him on collusion in russia. so he has that ability to
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consciously deflect. but that is fueled by a certain amount of deliusion. when you say you're on tape saying something that you already acknowledge was real and now you say it's not. >> i'll give you that. we have harped on the "access hollywood" latest instance very heavily here on the show because it is is the most naked lie that i have seen the president tell while in office. there's absolutely no basis for it. it's absurd for him to do it. it raises questions as to why he would. let me know when you get your full degree. special counsel robert mueller reaching president trump's inner circle. russia investigators talking to jared kushner. what we are learning about that meeting next. with ai that sees threats coming.
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