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they are turning tires. there are rocks being thrown. israelis are responding with rubber bullets. >> this is a long overdue step to advance the peace process. >> you are killing the two-state solution, and you are moving the palestinians to push for a one-state solution. >> from my perspective all the questions were answered. >> the only reason why we come up with a caulk maimy legal strategy is to hide something. >> senator franken is going to speak to this. >> we're the republican voices. this is the time when we can make a culture change. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning and welcome to your "new day." it's 8:00 in the east.
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donald trump, jr., refusing to tell congressional investigators to tell about a meeting with the russians that promised dirt on hillary clinton. he invoked the attorney/client privilege to not answer questions. >> and then texting, one of the trump administration's first acts. violent protests in the west bank following president trump's decision to recognize jerusalem as israel's capital. let's go live to washington on the don jr. testimony. >> he says attorney/client privilege is why he says he
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doesn't have to answer some of the questions. the president's son met with house investigators yesterday to answer questions for several hours, and he told lawmakers that the father/son conversation happened after trump jr. issued a misleading statement about the trump tower meeting and released e-mails showing what the meeting was really about. trump told investigators he spoke to hope hicks, one of the president's closest aides as they straplabled to make a statement for the media. we know the trump tower meeting and the white house response are now under scrutiny by special counsel robert mueller. neither trump jr. nor the president is a lawyer, but trump
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junior said lawyers were president by the conversation, so it's covered by attorney/client privilege. it appears so long as republican lawmakers allow the privilege claim the president's son won't have to provide anymore details about the conversations to congress. alisyn. >> thank you. more news now, embattled senator al franken making an announcement on the floor, and there are calls for him to resign amid the allegations of misconduct. do we know what he is going to say? >> reporter: it's widely expected that he will announce a resignation, but we want to be careful about that because his spokesman via twitter is pushing back a minnesota radio report that he would step down. that spokesman saying that he was discussing these things with his family, but it's widely
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expected that is what he will do, and this comes amid an extraordinary day yesterday that happened, a sixth female came forward saying he inappropriately touched her, and this has conyers resigned, and it was gillibrand from new york saying enough is enough. there's growing frustration about parsing what was acceptable and what was not acceptable and it was a campaign, if you will, via twitter and statements, and many democratic senators and colleagues came forward within 30 minutes or so all essentially saying the same thing, and more than 30 of franken's colleagues and very good friends saying he would not be able to survive this. >> obviously there are new allegations today, and enough is enough. you need to draw a line in the stand and say none of it is okay
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or acceptable and we as elected leaders should be held to a higher standard and not a lower standard. i do not feel he should continue to serve. >> as recently, three weeks ago he came back to the senate, franken, and apologized after the first allegation of groping and of forcible kissing, that type of thing. he said he was ashamed and embarrassed and the senatet ethics committee would be investigating this, and chuck schumer took him aside yesterday and spoke to him several times yesterday and said he did not think he would survive this, if he thinks he will decide and step down, it would be the democratic governor appointing his replacement and then a special election would happen in november of 2018 and we expect that senate race would be a competitive one. >> appreciate it. let's bring in our cnn political
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analyst. with some exceptions people will look at the claim and say attorney/client privilege and say it doesn't fit and if they want to give him a break, we should do that. and that's what they are doing. i don't think there was anything else here, and so many hours of questioning, and so we said, okay, go back and check, and he seems to want to be forthcoming. where is the confidence in the witness' credibility given the misstatements in the past? >> yeah, he has plenty of recall of about what led up to the meetings and nothing resulted from the meetings, he has that level of recall but not the scent discussions about how to deal with it as it exploded as a
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story. there are reports his father as president is dictating a statement from air force one that has special prosecutor's interest and attention. i think with the president's son here, you are seeing the limits of the congressional probe, but perhaps just wetting the appetite for the special prosecutor who may look at this invoking of attorney/client privilege on such a thin ground as such a reason to look more at don jr. and bring him into the grand jury and so on. >> david just hit on the problem. if these congressional probes can't make any headway, and you hear their frustration, and congresswoman jackie speier yesterday said she thought he was suffering from amnesia, and chuck grassley is moving at a snail's pace, so if they are
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sometimeied, all there is is robert mueller's investigation. >> robert mueller's investigation is operating on a different plain. there's a schism on the judicial committee's work. now they are saying thank you so much for your time, and democrats are saying you can't pull this attorney/client privilege thing, and we have questions and you are not being forthcoming with your answers, and that's a risk and will always happen on capitol hill because there are a few things that can escape the partisanism surrounding the issue with the ties to kremlin officials and what other members of the team had contact with the russian officials. it puts them at a greater disadvantage, probes that will not have as much ability to look
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at what mueller could, and mueller is making plea arrangements. >> i think we should add, though, the argument from the white house, from the president supporters is all these investigations are moving at a fevered pitch. i think it's important to underline what we don't know. there's a big question of why. why were there contacts? why was there an attempt to cozy up to the russians? what we are looking at and able to report on as fact and analyze is still am set of circumstances that will raise questions and there's not evidence that they were working beforehand or during the election to somehow tilt the election.
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it's worth nodding to the whole point of an obstruction investigation is the president's team bring this on themselves by their behavior. >> we are seeing politics being used to tar the mueller investigation. the fbi agent sending texts to anti-trump, and robert mueller who people all the way up to newt gingrich is impeccable and the media should calm down and now they are saying he is compromised and has a con tphrebconflict? now some could say the sanctions are going to be gone as soon as the new administration comes forward?
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why were they coordinating? >> potentially. again, this is not a completed investigation but certainly the topic of sanctions have come up with flynn's contacts with the russians. when you talk about the subject was adoptions, adoptions for the russians means sanctions because it's because of what we did that a different act. the response from the republican leader of the committee, tray gowdy was, i am not interfering with mueller's probe, and we can't do criminal prosecutions in congress so i'm not touching it and i already told you that, congressman. they are having a spat in public that they were having behind closed doors as well. and this revelation goes to filling out the narrative or trying to answer some of the questions, and as david pointed
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out, at this point it's an ongoing investigation, and still patterns developing and not a full conclusion and it seems like we will have to wait for the various stages of mueller's probe and these plea deals he puts out and the potential charges to fully see the picture they are seeing. >> it's interesting, with flynn, you look at the facts and say this is somebody who is potentially so corrupt in his dealings with the russians, and he's going to be cooperating, or is this more benign, trump's version of a reset with russia, again, that's why the mystery around flynn is so significant. >> let's talk about al franken. he's going to make some sort of announcement and many believe he's going to heed the calls from his democratic colleagues and he will resign.
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you can see in stark relief the difference between how democrats have been dealing with john conyers and al franken, and how republicans are wrestling with what to do with roy moore and the accusations against donald trump, and blake -- all of that, there's a distinction. last night, laura ingram appeared to be siding with al franken, but it's just against with what they found as a newfound morality. listen. >> these are people that grew up in a party that used to preach free love, and used to think all of hippy freedom was one kerrful, and now they suddenly curled into this weird -- >> i just want everybody watching to understand that newt
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gingrich is here tonight and he's standing up for al franken. >> sort of. i mean, he's calling it weird pure teuzam. >> it's strange to hear -- there are so many characters like tphaonewt gingrich that have their own history. they have reacted in great numbers now, at least in the senate, to say it's time to go, and at the same time you have the republican party moving in closer to roy moore. i think that's a very important thing, and democrats needing to have able to have a reason to point a finger at roy moore and
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not have the finger pointed directly back at them at senator franken. it does help them politically to be able to do this now. does this continue with other people whose names come up? does it a zero tolerance party in the democratic party or not? that's what we will tell how much this is political posturing or a sincere shift? >> it's interesting the democrats have been attacking trump for attacking democratic institutions and now getting rid of franken without due process, or they are trying to. >> this is an argument that is putting the due process out. donald trump, jr., invoked the attorney/client privilege. we're going to ask the ranking
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i want to talk to you about wildfires raging in your state as well and we want to get the word out there about the need and danger. let's talk about the hearing. why did you let him assert a privilege that he doesn't have? >> it's not a question of us allowing him to invoke the privilege, and he invoked the privilege and we made it clear that we did not think it was a recognizable privilege. he, then, and his counsel said they would go back and discuss it further with their lawyers and the president's lawyers and get back to us. the question comes if they get back to us and say we are not going to answer those questions, then we will be required to subpoena donald trump, jr., back before the committee. unfortunately i think the committee set a precedent that if witnesses make any flimsy claim of privilege that the house or the senate will back away. we have seen, for example, attorney general, not in the
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house but in the senate, too, make an assertion they were not going to answer questions not because they were invoking the privilege, but because they thought the president might invoke the privilege. there's no such thing. as long as the senate and house fail to act and insist, then we create the opportunity to evade oversight and i think it's dangerous in our investigation and it's dangerous in terms of the entire precedent. >> then you have what else went on, according to sources in the q & a yesterday, him saying he doesn't remember things. how much clarity do you think you got? >> i don't want to characterize the testimony in that way. what i tried to do is basically not go into the content of what people have said, but rather when they refuse to answer questions not let them behind the closed nature of the
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proceeding and then go public and say we fully cooperated when they haven't. i will leave that for others when we publish the transcript and i hope at the conclusion we will publish all the transcripts so the american people can see what they had to say and whether it supports the conclusions we reached. >> did you learn more about why donald trump, jr., provided reckonings about the meeting, and if the president of the us knew about the meeting, and what happened in that meeting in furtherance of what was cooperation after the meeting? >> we know more than what we did go into the hearing, and we did gather additional facts, and what we learned early is not necessarily that a witness says i did it, and did you conclude
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with the russians, and you get a straight answer if you ask the summary questions, but if you ask the specific questions, it leads you to other documents or witnesses and you can prove or disprove what the witnesses have said. i think we gained important insights that we can follow-up if we have the support of the majority find out, was this witness telling us the truth, and if not does it lead us to other evidence that will shed more light on the facts. i think it was very productive. >> chris stewart says he doesn't think there was anything there, and there was a long questioning period, and don jr. gave as much as he thought he could give, and based on what he knows and the facts of the situation, there's nothing to follow-up on in terms of collusion. >> i think he expressed that opinion from the beginning, and if you look at what has been
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produced in the public eye there's a lot of evidence filling in the puzzle. you have george papadopoulos admitting the russians informed him and the campaign that they had the stolen hillary clinton e-mails. now this was at such a early date that not even the clinton campaign knew the russians had the e-mails and then weeks later you have don jr. and others taking meetings with the russian government and promising dirt on hillary clinton, and dirt in which the campaign was on notice they really had, and the dirt they had they express great disappointment and want more, and within days julian assange releases the e-mails. that's a pretty damning set of circumstances.
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was it commuby publishing them independently, that's how they were making good on the offer of help. we are still looking at that particular issue. there's a lot in the public domain. you have to be looking away to say there's no evidence of collusion here, and you have to, i think, accept the face value the self-serving statements of the administration, and that's just not what we do. >> i smell what you are cooking, but you will need more ingredients to make soup. the fires burning in your state are no joke. there was 0% containment for a long time, and we are showing pictures now of the situation there. how urgent is it? how worried are you it's going to spread to even more populated communities? >> it's very urgent. with the winds there's no
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containing a fire as long as the winds persists. i am deeply concerned about it and have been talking to my constituents, and hundreds of thousands have been evacuated from their homes and they, as you can imagine, are watching very nervously to find out whether their entire world ends up in flames. hard to overstate the danger here. i don't think we will be out of the woods until the winds come down, but the firefighters are doing an absolutely heroic job. >> it is just horrible. literally looks like hell fire they are dealing with out there. >> it certainly does. >> thank you for taking the opportunity. appreciate it. >> thank you. we are continuing to follow breaking news, violence in the best bank following trump's jerusalem system. george mitchell is going to share his insights next. (♪)
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the capital of israel. what is happening, ian? >> reporter: the clashes are continuing. you can see, they moved a bit. the protesters have been able to push back the army over here. you can see the smoke and the burned out tires and the rocks and debris on the ground, and then over here now, this is where the protesters now are squaring off with the military. i'm still seeing a number of people who have been injured. i saw one boy, it looked like, he was hit in the head and bleeding from the head. you know, this sort of violence has really ebbed and flowed over the course of the hours where you have it intensify and you see people hurling rocks and then the army responding with tear-gas and rubber bullets. this is the anger we are seeing right now here in ramallah, and
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we know it's happening in bethlehem. this is what arab leaders warned could happen if there was protests -- or if there was a move of the embassy to jerusalem and jerusalem was called the capital of israel. this is pretty much what we are seeing going into the evening here, this continuous violence. we need to point out that today is thursday. friday is a typical day for protests. expect this sort of violence, this level to maintain itself. >> ian, thank you very much and we will check back with you as breaking news developments. joining us is former senator and former special envoy to east peace, mr. mitchell. what are your thoughts as you see what is happening in ramallah and bethlehem? >> my thought is the president's
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action was unwise, and tomorrow is an important day because typically, friday is a day of protests, and these are the ones you are seeing on the screen are internal to the palestinian territories. >> we have been cautioned that friday could be more active. do you blame donald trump for this? there's a lot of violence in the area. >> i think his action has led to this, but i don't believe the response is the proper one, although i don't agree with his decision. >> look, very few people understand the quick sawedic nature as attempting middle east peace as you do. and some said there could be no peace without this move, and they want jerusalem to be the capital where the embassy is,
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and the mayor of jerusalem felt it was an important first step towards peace. how do you see this? >> i respectfully but very strongly disagree with the view. jerusalem is israel's capital and it's going to be israel's capital, and there's no doubt about that. >> why not recognize it? >> how do you get two parties to negotiate and reach an agreement, and this decision, premature and unnecessary, makes it less likely that there will be negotiations and less likely that there will be an agreement? >> was it likely before this? >> well, it has not been achieved. people say, well, so we should stop trying because it hasn't been achieved? the two-state saw lousolution i
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only feasible solution to the conflict, and the only way that could be achieved is direct negotiations between the p parties. the problem with this decision is it makes it less likely and more difficult to get into negotiations and to reach an agreement. the other thing that it does -- let's be clear -- support for the two-state saw lousolution i declining among israel and the palestinians. in israel the body of government is opposed to there ever being a palestinian state on the west bank or a palestinian capital in jerusalem. they will be emboldened by this. on the palestinian side hamas insists on the use of violence, and this will embolden them to
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continue their violence against israel. the real question is not whether jerusalem will be the capital of israel. >> ambassador, dennis ross, was a point person for the middle east during clinton and bush 41, and he said to wolf blitzer said that now israel owes us something, and doing this is what israel wanted and netanyahu, and it helps it because they owe the process. what do you think of that prospect? >> i hope he's right, but only time will tell. many experts in this country, who i read about last night, is that the united states making this action without asking anything of israel has simply emboldened the israelis to continue not to make concessions because they know they will get
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what they want without doing anything. you can argue it both ways. i hope it works out that it will lead to israeli concessions and palestinian concessions. look, let's be clear, both sides have to negotiate in a reasonable response, which means recognition of some of the other side's interests, otherwise you can't get to an agreement. >> while i have you, let's talk about what is happening in congress today. it appears senator al franken may resign today amid calls for his democratic colleagues to do this amid sexual harassment allegations. you miss being in the senate? >> not too much. >> what do you think from this side as you watch things unfold? >> what i miss is getting around in my home state of maine, and meeting with my constituents. i don't miss what is going on in washington. >> what do you think about it?
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should al franken resign? >> i think it's likely he will given the overwhelming views of his colleagues on the democratic side. >> do you think there is more gridlock today than when you were there? >> definitely. i had a great relationship with bob dole, the republican leader. we agreed we wouldn't make it personal, we would stick to the issues. we negotiated on a regular basis. we disagreed often and when we couldn't reach an agreement we let the senate decide it, and in our arguments we stuck to the issues and didn't make it personal. i think it's possible to do that, and incidentally to this day as a public word or private word pass that was harsh. >> an inspiration. donald trump, jr., refusing to reveal details about the
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capitol hill invoking attorney client privilege after being asked about a conversation with his father at the trump tower last summer. let's get the latest on this from the cnn political person. a lightning round. you get one minute on each. let's start with the house intel committee did not -- democrats at least, with don junior's responses, and jackie speier thought he had amnesia. where are we with the rush kwru investigation? >> well, we know now that dianne feinstein is upset how the judiciary committee right now is pursuing its investigation of possible collusion with the trump administration. we saw what happened yesterday with donald trump, jr., where he invoked executive privilege when
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democrats said he can't invoke that privilege, because he was not speaking to his lawyer but a lawyer was present. alisyn, if anybody should know if it should happen or not it should be al dean. al franken went to shuck chuck schumer's apartment. >> i can't imagine he survives today, and i was surprised he survived yesterday. the dam has broken and the time of reckoning has come and al franken has gotten caught up in it. when you see women come out and make similar allegations, there's no way he can stick around. i can't imagine he will say
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anything other than to go to the senate floor and try to graciously leave the united states senate. >> i know i said one question each, but what happens to the republicans, what happens to the settlement of $80,000 of a staffer that accused blake fairen holt. >> he said, you know, he will stay there. the bottom line is is that there's an amount of pressure on democrats and republicans to get them out of the house and senate, but it comes down to the individual member himself. you will see fights along the way, but i can't imagine somebody like al franken right now could survive this. >> next topic. fbi director, christopher wray will appear in front of the
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committee, and so what is going to happen there? >> you will see democrats come at him and ask him very pointed questions about what is going on with the investigation and how things are going on. you will see the same thing from the republican side, except from the republicans you will see a line of questioning that will discredit what robert mueller is doing. christopher wray is not going to be able to answer anything regarding the investigation into russia, and that's why they have the special counsel. we have seen the fbi become politicized at this point and the likes of president trump and his allies are trying to use every little bit they can to try and discredit the fbi because by doing so they are discrediting the special counsel robert mueller and in turn discrediting -- or trying to discredit what his findings are for the russia investigation. >> thank you.
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that famous trump sniffle you will remember is back in the news. the president sniffing his way through a historic speech yesterday. don't think twitter did not take notice. jeanne moos explains. >> it doesn't take a nose for news to sniff out this story. >> the status quo both sides, acceptable. a lasting peace agreement. >> reporter: we're all in agreement this is a case of déàa vu stiffing. president trump has done it before, most notably during a debate with hillary clinton that inspired complications, and it was dubbed the sniffening, and makes the sniff greats again happen. a mockery. back then theories ranged from allergies to chronic sinusitice
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to meditations that cause sniffing. >> now we have sniffle gate. >> now sniffle gate has given way to slur gate. >> political and relidge just -- >> because about 11 minutes into the speech, he blew a blessing. >> twitter said his dentures are trying to escape his mouth, and it reminded us of a dry mouth syndrome and he had to reach for a pwaulbottle of water. the slurring gave "the daily show" for its trump best words of 2017 video. >> the best words -- there's no better word than stupid.
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>> a little dry humor, make that dry mouth, is nothing to sniff at, jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> jeanne moos has a way with words. on that note i will hand it over to cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow and mr. berman after this break. you pay what we pay. not a cent more. we're so happy to share this with you. it's our way of saying happy holidays. and welcome to the family... the chevy family. use your employee discount for everyone and trade up to this silverado all star to get a total value of over eleven thousand dollars. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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