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you will learn a lot from this one-hour documentary. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, breaking news. president trump live in florida. but expected to make a big pitch to alabama voters for roy moore. plus, the fbi warning one of trump's closest aides, hope hicks, that russian operatives were trying to make contact with her. why do they continue even after russia was accused of election meddling? and protests planned as president trump is set to attend the opening of mississippi's civil rights museum. should trump stay away? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin burnett. tonight, we are following breaking news. all in for roy moore.
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president trump about to rally thousands of supporters in pen sa cola, florida just across the border from alabama. you're looking at live pictures now of the event. trump is about to take the stage. why florida? good question. to put it in context, this rally is just 15 miles away from the alabama border, which means just about 15 miles away from voters in a hotly contested special election senate race. but the president has as of today, left zero doubt where he stands. tweeting this morning, an attack against the democrat in the race and ending it with quote, vote roy moore. the embattled republican candidate run ng the race. as he departed the white house this afternoon for the rally, no word however on what trump's message will be b tonight. >> talk about roy moore? what about jobs? >> but it is widely expected president will repeat what he said in his tweet tonight and it will have some reach. the nearby mobile media market
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reaches one in six alabamaians. this is not billed as a roy moore rally, but is this any question this is anything else? >> would have several excuses to hold a rally here. he's spending part of the weekend at his resort, mar-a-lago, in southern florida. he won this part of florida handily and if you look behind me at the stage here, you can see several merry christmas signs, an indication the president is going to go back to one of his favorite old chestnuts of political correctness and tell the crowd, people are saying merry christmas and not happy holidays, but but it's not lost on anyone here this is doubling as a roy moore rally. speaking with some in the crowd today, i found a family who had driven here from 45 minutes away from southern alabama and the father told me that you know, if anyone tells you this is not a roy moore rally, that they are not telling you the truth.
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now people in southern alabama will be seeing coverage of this rally tonight as you noted. pen sa cola shares a tv market with mobile, so there will be a lot of voters who will see the president's remarks tonight. we can expect the president to repeat his full throated endorsement of roy moore. that was issued on monday. as you note d, he said again ina tweet today in all caps, vote for roy moore. now the moore campaign said the kocandidate himself will not be here tonight. they have ak tyly encouraged their supporters to come out tonight. they say their base has been ignited and there's wind in their sails. in another not so subtle wink this non roy moore rally is a roy moore rally, the daughter-in-law of the president, lara trufr, recorded a robo call that went out to alabama voters hundreds of miles waway from here encouraging the to come to tonight's event. now why all the smoke and
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mirrors? why doesn't the president just go campaign alongside roy moore? this is a tight race. there's a decent chance moore does not win and then of course if he does win, there would be all those pictures of the president alongside moore, which of course democrats could use in the 2018 midterm elections next year. >> so instead, you're stuck with a non roy moore roy moore rally. has quite a ring to it. thanks very much. "outfront" now, ed martin, a former state gop chairman for the missouri republican party. he's also a roy moore supporter. doug hyatt as well. great to see you. to alex's point, ed, tonight's rally, 15 mile frs the alabama border. it's oh so close. why doesn't the president just say i'm here for roy moore and go straight to alabama. hilarious. >> i think that was good reporting. i think part of it is that you're not wanting to get the
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optics. i think the president's late toth party in terms of being fully in. but there's another aspect of this. the political office when they decided this location is thinking of 2020. and they are thinking of florida. florida is a swing state. been a lot of coverage of the puerto rican nationals that are coming from puerto rico to florida because of the devastation. they're also thinking down the line, but i agree with the reporting on this. the it's kind of head nod in one way, but the truth is clear in politics. >> puerto rican national, puerto rican americans, just so we're clear. >> all right. >> just saying, ed. want to be clear. >> voters. voters. >> doug, this wink wink nod nod in florida. does it do anything to help protect republicans who don't support moore or does it really do anything to protect the president if roy moore doesn't win zm. >> i mean i think he's trying to have the smallest degree of separation possible. >> literally. >> sure.
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>> when you tweet vote roy moore, that's a public statement, not just something that's cute that's done on an iphone. well then you've backed him as much you can and here's the problem, kate. my background in politics, my first job was for jesse helms. his history with race is pretty well-known. then i worked for michael steel, the first african-american rnc chairman then worked for eric cantor. i've seen race in the republican party as much as anybody. i've read and studied it a whole lot. the problem for me and so many like myself is i can't look a black or hispanic american in the face now and say the republican party should be a home for you because when we have roy moore, now we've seen these latest statements where he's talking about the last time america was great again that phrase that we know about that donald trump loves to use sh the last time roy moore thought america was great was during slavery. that'sen appalling statement. why so many people can't say it. that's what he said. that's why i can't look
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minorities in the face and say the republican party should be home to you. as a former director of the rnc, that makes me really sad. breaks my heart. >> ed. >> look, he just went through a litany of things. most of the positions you object to are policy positions. you're for amnesty, so is cantor and steel. and so you know -- >> i don't think doug made a position on immigration right now. >> i have no b problem. the sweeping generalization that you can't like minorities in the face, plenty of people who have said plenty of things. we're talking about a choice between two candidates. one ultraliberal. >> what do you make of what has come out in the l.a. times? >> anybody who says things like slavery should exist now is ridiculous. i'd like to know why it happened. it's like you're throwing a quote at me. it sounds dumb, like a terrible idea. >> so the quote is dumb. >> they get to pick. if this should have come out before you had luther strange,
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probably your guy. >> what? >> and the choice is one guy. >> the hardest working member of congress from the alabama delegati delegation. >> they're not running. the guys running now are proborgs, pro-am necessity guy and someone who's got a better view. that's what the people of alabama get to decide. not you, not me and not the l.a. times. >> i understand as a former state party chair from missouri. so he knows we nominate a terrible candidate like todd aiken or like we may do in alabama with roy moore. it's about every republican candidate who's going to have to answer for every terrible deed they've done and every tesh thing they've said. so whether you're running in alabama or running in any of the other states, all 50 states for that matter, that every house republican member is, they're going to have to answer for roy moore. >> the president help them with this wink wink nod nod. i want to add into this, another reason that this candidate is
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embattled so much is because of what has come out in the race. another wrinkle with the women who have come forward. one of the women, beverly nelson, she admits she wrote notes on the yearbook that she says roy moore signed ed, which they brought out when she told her story. she says she wrote in the date and the place. her attorney says they had an expert authenticate the signature. listen to this. >> according to forensic handwriting and document examiner, arthur t. anthony, the signature and the hand wrwritte notation were prepared by roy moore. we did not ask the expert to examine the printing after the cursive writing and signature because beverly independeicates added that to remind herself of who roy moore was and where and when mr. moore signed her ye
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yearbook. >> should they have acknowledged she wrote any notes at all? absolutely. but still, you have someone who says the signature is his. do you believe beverly now? >> no. of course not. she's now look, they should have acknowledged it when they came out four weeks ago and said this is a signature but i wrote the notes. why is she coming forward? roy moore said, i told roy moore's campaign, everyone that asked, if these women didn't do it, he ought to sue them for defamation of "the washington post" and let them have in court, but this is outrageous. >> haven't seen any lawsuits yet. >> if he doesn't, you can have me on and i'll complain about it. gloria allred wouldn't give the yearbook over to a third party. this is not like a tv show. this is people's lives that are at stake and at this point, the woman lied about it four weeks ago. what the origins of it were. >> you said that, she did mott
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say that. >> well she didn't tell the truth then. how do you say it where she didn't admit she wrote part of it. >> i'm not going to tell her what to do, but she should have come forward and said she wrote notes. doug, does this change your mind? >> it doesn't help her case, but there are a lot of people who realize there were fatal problems for republicans nationwide with roy moore before any of these allegations came out. we've seen enough of his statements, enough of his record to know that roy moore is going to be hung like an albatross over every republican. i like ed a lot and if he wants to wear a big, dumb, red hat, that's fine. but understand that minority voters throughout this country see that as a flashing red light that says republicans don't like you. if we want to grow, if we want to glow as a party, that's what we have to avoid. >> the party's growing. the party's growing because it's ditching guys like cantor and steel that are not conservatives. the trump party has democrats and working folks looking up saying your policies destroyed the country.
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so roy moore's not perfect. no candidate is, but he's better than doug jones and he's better than your guys and maybe making america work for us. >> all right. >> the problem, ed, is -- sounds like you don't have a massive problem with slavery. >> no, no, no. >> we'll find out on tuesday. it's up to the senate to figure out what they're going to do with roy moore if he is the one who wins. thank you so much, guys. next, breaking news, who picks one of president trump's advisers reportedly warned by the fbi that russian operatives were repeatedly trying to contact her. plus, we are hearing george papadopoulos' side of the story about his role in the trump campaign. his fiancee says he was no coffee boy. >> didn't take any initiative on his own without campaign approval. >> and new details about frank's resignation. he planned to leave congress in january under a cloud of sexual harassment alslegations.
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>> kate, senior fbi officials, they met with hope hicks twice inside "the situation room" at the white house. they cautioned her about the several introductory e-mails she received from what she thought was russian government e-mail addresses in the weeks after the election. the fbi told her that these e-mails weren't what they seem and that they may have been part of a russian intelligence operation. this was a very specific warning and really shows that law enforcement was really alarmed that the russians were still trying to establish contacts with the trump team after the election. to special counsel robert mueller's team. interviewed by them yesterday and today as part of the russia probe. >> you're learning much more about just how much material mueller and his team have actually gathered in their case against paul manafort and rick gates. >> they're releasing that in court file, so they've gather gathereded hundreds of thousands
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of court, they handed -- that includes financial and bank account records, corporate records and e-mails and of those, about 2,000 have been labeled by prosecutors as hot documents athere are terribles that are particularly important. they've gathered 36, thumb drive, all of these devices obtained. the quote that says the government has depositioned testimony given by defendants in another matter. prosecutors aren't saying exactly what that means, but depositions, they're out of court, sworn testimony that can be used for discovery purpose, maybe even at trial. so this case is moving full steam ahead with a lot of
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documents. and manafort and gates will be back in court on monday. >> thanks so much. joining me now, former assistant to president obama. lisa monaco, also served as chief of staff to robert mueller when he was head of fbi. >> good to be with you, kate. >> 400,000 documents including these financial corporate records. three dozen laptops, other electronics. what does this tell you about the scope of mueller's investigation here? >> well, kate, what that tells me is that this is proceeding as a complex, sophisticated, white collar investigation should proceed. and that volume of information is entirely consistent with what we saw saw released two weeks ago when the indictment was returned. that indictment ran to some 31
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pages included a dozen separate criminal -- and laid out importantly, kate, to support the money laundering count and allegations this that indictment. each one of f those transactions has to be supported by a record. whether it's a bank statement or other transaction information and that information all has to be gathered, present ed by the prosecutors, investigators, to the grand jury before it can end up in the indictment and laid out for the court. >> which is a huge number. the volume is amazing. one thing when it comes to mueller this week, a change is really a ramping up this week in attacks coming from republicans. against the special counsel. listen to this. >> if everyone was dismissed from the moment he was anti trump, you wouldn't have anybody left. >> the death of this bias on the mueller team just goes on and on. it's shocking.
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>> mueller is corrupt. the senior fbi is corrupt. the system is corrupt. >> what do you think of those attacks? >> look, i think that they are clearly an effort to try and discredit the team, the office of the special counsel and the steady work that they've been doing. what we've seen over in less than eight months is four individuals charged. two have pled guilty. and a steady process for this investigation moving without comment from the office of the special counsel. they've been doing their speaking in court. and so these attacks are i think a very, very disturbing effort to discredit the investigation and ultimately, what it will turn out and remember, kate, prosecutors and investigators, they don't start out with an end point they then try and get to. what they do is follow the
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facts. they follow the law and what's very disturbing about this is you have fbi investigators and agents all around the country. and in very dangerous places n around the world. they rely on the credibility of this very important institution to do their job and to help keep us safe and it's really fortunate we're seeing this attack on that credibility. >> some republicans are pointing to is stories that have come out of agents being pulled off the team for text messages when it comes to perceived, that could be perceived as being biased and antitrump. is with that happening, is mueller handing this? kind of a attack to his opponent sns. >> no, i think what we've seen is immediate steps taken. let's step back a minute. the mueller team was put together i think in late spring, april or may. and but what we've seen in the public reporting and we should point out, i don't know what is in any of those messages or
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those text messages. >> no one does. >> i don't think anybody has seen them. but those were evidently put forward by the inspector general, separate investigation. sometime in july and what we understand is that director mueller moved immediately to remove that agent from the team. that is entirely consistent with what i know to be bob mueller's practice, that anytime there is a indication that the process has not been followed, procedures have not been followed, hooe going to take tax to address it. >> does he take this personally? i'm over time, but is he taking this stuff personally? >> bob mueller is somebody who keeps his head down. and he lets the work speak for itself. he will not be affected by these criticism. he's going to focus on the job at hand. and continue to follow the facts. >> we will continue to follow them as they come out. thanks for coming in. >> thanks, kate. next, for now, we're hearing
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tonight, the fiancee of the first trump campaign adviser to plead guilty as part of mueller's investigation is speaking out to cnn. the fiancee of george papadopoulos, fighting back against team trump's claims that papadopoulos was just a coffee boy. insisting he was more actually a key player in the campaign. she says on the advise of lawyers, he is not speaking publicly, so she is speaking out instead. pamela brown is "outfront." >> what have you seen, read, that doesn't square with the george papadopoulos you know? >> george papadopoulos is everything but a coffee boy. >> she says despite what the white house says about her fiance, george papadopoulos, he was not a low level volunteer in the traump campaign or a rogue agent who acted without approval u. >> it was foreign policy add virz for the campaign.
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he helped with trump's speech. foreign policy. he attended many events and entertained contacts and high level officials from different countries. he was actively giving this input and insights on strategies and of course, he was with high level officials. >> in march of 2016, president trump named him as a top foreign policy adviser. >> george papadopoulos, he's an oil and energy consultant, excellent guy. >> later, papadopoulos met with the president and now, jeff session, where papadopoulos allegedly proposed setting up a meeting between trump and putin. sessions claims he knicksed the idea, but when news broke about his cooperation with the special counsel, president trump slammed papadopoulos in a tweet. >> a young, low level volunteer who was already proven to be b a lair. what was your reaction when you
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saw that tweet? >> as the same person who kaued him excellent guy, so i agree with that. >> she says her fi yancey interacted with campaign manager, corey lune dough ski, paul manafort and other officials including michael glass ner and says during the transition, former national security adviser, michael flynn. most have denied down played or said they didn't recall their interactions with him. >> you say he was consistently in touch with these high level campaign officials. >> yes. >> what was his interaction with michael flynn? >> it was in contact with michael flynn on the work with, michael flynn doing some transition and he was actually contributing to the foreign policy strategies for the campaign and didn't take any initiative on his own without campaign approval. >> court documents show p papadopoulos e-mailed campaign officials in march to 20 16
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about setting up a meeting in moscow to discuss u.s. russia ties under president trump. a campaign supervisor responded, quote, great work and later wrote i would encourage dwrou make the trip if feasible. in a separate e-mail, a campaign official now identified as paul manafort wrote it should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal. she tells cnn that papadopoulos even did an interview in the fall of 2016 with russian news agency interfax and she said the campaign's deputy communications director, who was now a cnn contributor, signed off on it. lanza declined to comment on it. so the campaign approved on him doing the only interview as far as you know. signed off by the campaign. >> russia was really secondary. and it really did big work with
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egyptians. israel. >> his role as a foreign policy -- republican national convention. and meeting with israeli settlers around inauguration day seen here in video obtained be i the jerusalem post. while he communicated with them later in the campaign, he never discussed russia with him. >> i take think he wanted to disassociate from the governments. i suppose this can be right. some people. >> she says she was interviewed by the fbi in october and that a key focus was on london based professor. he allegedly told papadopoulos during the campaign that the
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russias had dirt on hillary clinton. thousands of e-mails. she says she met papadopoulos in september 2016 through linkedin because she was working at the london center of international law practice he had worked earlier in the year. when they met, she was running the center. >> i suppose that fbi was interested in knowing my connection with him, which makes perfectly sense. it's quite a strange coincidence we both worked for the same person. >> she told the fbi she's not a russian spy. >> they asked me if i speak russian, if i know russian people. i think people -- about being a spy, thinking i was the russian putin. that's like a little bit offe e offensive and everything. >> she says despite everything they've been through, she continues to stand by her fiance and his willingness to work with
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investigators. >> i'm very proufd his choice to cooperate with the right side of the story. >> and she says that papadopoulos didn't intentionally mislead the fbi. she believes he might have gotten confused about the dates of when he met with professor, but she says he is taking full responsibility for it and says she hopes president trump will pardon her fiance because he's been loyal to him. the white house did not provide a comment for this story. kate. >> we'll see. thank you so much. tonight, david gergen, who served as adviser to four presidents. mark preston, david, his fiancee has been interviewed as well by mueller's team. how much do you think her statement matters in the grand scope of things. >> i think now, there is confusion about what is right and whether he was a low level aide. or the fact he had a a rather senior position during the campaign. but i must say that the number
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of times the team has mislead us about things like this, it does give more credibility to her story. but the other thing as credibility in another sense, that mueller himself has given papadopoulos you know, a small charge in change for information and he did that because he thought papadopoulos had a tale to tell and he wants to squeeze that tale out of him. you know, so i think he may play, he may have put a wire on him. the suggestion is that however high up he was, he was expose today a lot and it poses a danger to the white house. >> it's a funny thing. low level, high level, volunteer, coffee boy, latte boy, the fiancee has one view.
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the white house and everyone else connected has done everything they can to have a different view. he's a nobody and it was a volunteer position. but there were a lot of quote unquote volunteers on this campaign. a lot of people who aren't paid. ban p, paul manafort, so what? >> yeah, so one, i think there's absolutely right that you don't necessarily have to be the highest rank iing official on a campaign to be privy to information in going ons in a campaign. i do think there's a little bit of truth in what they're both saying, although more to the papadopoulos side of the truth and it is to the trump side of the truth. if you go back this time and look at the campaign was like, it was very lean. some would say very small. it was not very sophisticated at all. in fact, they couldn't necessarily attract the star talent to come in to be their advisers. it was very, very disorganized. sam, no disrespect, the fact he
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was a chief policy advise eer for the campaign is almost laughable because he just wasn't qualified if for that. >> can i ask you about another story mentioned earlier coming from "the new york times" tonight thark the fbi met with hope hicks, the close aide to trump. met with her twice in order to warn her about repeated attempts from russian operatives to conta contact her. the fact they were concerned enough to give her a defensive briefing in the situation room, what does that tell you? >> well, in my years in the white houses and around national security, that's a very rare occurrence. that a the fbi would come in and want somebody. so they were taking it seriously. doi think in defense of hope hicks, yopg at this point we have evidence that she did
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anything wrong. >> exactly. >> before or after the fbi warned her. and so you know, it's simply i think this story is essentially about the aggressive russian attempts to make contacts and to have friends, to have relationships inside the trump team and it's so odd. i mean, i've never seen a campaign in which the russians woul play that kind of role or any other nation would suggest there was some reason why they thought they would have entree into talking to all these people. >> mark, final word. >> just very quickly. i think this story has been overshadowed by everything else that's going on, but in the times story, it says hope hicks was interviewed for two days. thursday and friday. i think this is critical. she was around president trump all the time. so again, not the highest ranking official in the campaign, but i believe she was privy to a lot of things that the mueller investigation is looking for. i think that she was in the room, be interesting to see what she told investigators. >> great to see you guys. next, the naacp asking trump not
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tonight, boycotts and protests are expected over president trump ice plan to attend the opening of a civil rights museum in mississippi tomorrow. he was invited several months ago. among those asking him not to attend, the naacp, saying this. in a statement. president trump's statements and policies regarding the protection and enforcement of civil rights have been abysmal to the veterans of the civil rights movement. "outfront" with me now, derek johnson, also the former president of the mississippi chapter. thanks for coming in. all signs are that he's going to be attending. are you going tomorrow? >> i will not be there tomorrow
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his attendance is a distraction. from us having an opportunity the honor true americans who sacrificed so much to make sure that democracy worked. it's an affront to those individuals who fought for voting rights to ensure that people had eququality educationd quality access to health care will be celebrating. those are principles this president do not support. with his voting commission, he don't support open and fair elections to ensure that all citizens have the right to vote. he don't affect free, quality, public education for all children. and his most recent attempt with tax reform show he don't support affordable, quality health care. that was the movement. that's why i was celebrating the individuals who sacrificed and his attendance is an affront. >> no question, you disagree with him on many policy fronts, but you're in jackson. last i heard, you were going to
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attend. now you boycotting this? >> there's tho bcot boycott. we're going to hold a press conference tomorrow. after the president leaves, there will be so many people who can go into the museum and celebrate the seg leg issy of all those individuals who sacrificed. in fact, if you understand the movement of civil rights in mississippi, many of the leaders of the movement were world war ii veterans, so they fought abroad for freedoms so i can sit in a seat and so we can celebrate them for all of the great work they did and the president's attendance is nothing more than a distraction. >> last night, i spoke with republican congresswoman mia love and here's what she had to say. >> shouldn't we be going to a civil rights museum to learn about the suffering and i would say the triumph of black
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americans it should be the white house and i think we should welcome that type of participation. >> understand what this is all about. wouldn't it be good for him to learn. from all our calculation, he's only coming for a photo opportunity and we should not dignify his presence with the dignitaries who sacrifice -- >> we know -- >> this is not the time and place. >> i know he's been to that museum in d.c., absolutely, but not for the photo op. not to stand on stage.
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not to talk about issue that he don't support. as we celebrate individuals for an opportunity to make it work. he don't support many of the values that ask the -- >> one of the reasons that you -- you mentioned it tonight, you say he created a commission to enforce voter suppression. to mississippi to depress black tourn turnout in a special election in alabama. do you think that's a stretch. >> without validating his ability to get a photo opportunity. he can go to civil rights museums all across the country. right now, why main street sns?
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>> and you don't see this as an opportunity to try to bring folks together. you see this as nothing more than a distraction. >> people have been planning it for four years. for the first time, the state of mississippi is recognizing the heroes of that movement. in fact, we're the last statement to bear the federal emblem in our flag. it is time for this state to move forward and people are coming together to celebrate the sacrifices. what the president is doing is serving as a distraction for whatever voter he's intending. >> thanks so much for coming in. see what happens tomorrow. next, ted franks no longer a u.s. congressman. why did he moou up his departure and the white house is crawling
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departure. arizona congressman franks now resigning today after saying he would leave in january. acknowledging that he made female staffers uncomfortable in surrogate. but he never said he attempted to have any sexual contact with any member of my congressional staff. phil mattingly is out front. phil, what more can you tell us? >> reporter: well, the congressman said the reason he sped up his time table is last night his wife was admitted to the hospital. they had conversations with their family and decided right thing to do. but when you talk to people on capitol hill knowledgeable what's going on, they make clear there was likely more to it. they point directly to paul ryan response. kate, if you take a look behind the scenes how the speaker handled this over the course of two week heard, how this information came to light, and once the speaker was briefed on this, not only how he informed filing a complaint, but also
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made clear he should resign. and repeated that point of view multiple times over the course of several days. what i'm told is that under scores the severity of this issue, how it was perceived by the speaker and reality it was probably time for congressman franks, at least in the perspective of the speaker to leave now, not january 31st. >> still a lot of questions about that now. speaker ryan all but demanded that he step down when he learned about this. is this a signal do you think of how republican leaders plan to handle other allegations against other members of congress going forward? >> reporter: look, it's a great question. all you have to do is look across the republican congress and see if that's the place. paid $85,000 to pay separate claim. as of now he's still a member of congress and disputing what's going on. i think, kate, what all this under scores last three weeks which has been jarring on capitol hill for a the lo of members, female members and
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staff knew this was going on and didn't know how where to go. there is systemic issues and problems and failures on capitol hill here how to deal with the issues. those need be addressed and addressed quickly. the big question now is the way it happened with congressman franks the way it's going to be for everyone else in the feature. >> thanks. up next positive job numbers out today but some economists warn it could be up for a hit under the gop tax plan. cannot live without it.
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larger attack on higher education. >> reporter: among other things, the house gop plan would end student loan interest deductions for millions of students and families. as well as tax tuition waivers for graduate. the fallout would go far beyond cam pugs. 70% of college graduate with loan debt on average $38,000 worth taking up to three years to repay. it will make paying the loans back even harder. and that puts a dragon the whole economy preventing young kids from making major purchases, like a home or car. another scientific break throughs, an engineer student with dreams of designing implants to help people with severe mental disorders. >> i'm pretty worried about being able to finish my program. >> reporter: currently his kufrt
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waives for research. but they want to tax the waiver. tax he says he couldn't afford. and he thinks a lot of grad students would have to quit. a blow to all kinds of research. >> when you look at who is on the ground and doing the research and who is doing the coding, it's grad students. >> reporter: critics calling the house gop plan mistake that goes through a long tradition of encouraging them to go to college. >> using the tax code to help family's pay for post secondary education is a good idea. the house bill is a complete reversal of 25 years of established policy. >> reporter: many college students agree. seeing republican taxation as a threat to their graduation. because there are actually two versions of the gop tax plan, a house and senate version, the bills are going to have to be reconciled which means there could be changes. and until there is one formal bill, it's going to be anxious
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time for educators, students and especially parents. kate? >> martin, thank you so much. and thanks so much for joining us. president trump is about to take the stage at any moment in florida. with that, ac 360 starts now. good evening president trump is expected to take the stage any moment now at the base center in pensacola, florida. the event is being billed as make america great valley but roy moore senator rally. roy moore is accused of assault by several women that he denies. hundreds of how santhousands of alabamans could see this live or on tv tonight. before leaving washington president posted a long tweet that said vote for roy moore. and tonight