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comma there's a principle that evil fest ers in darkness. >> tech companies with power and control over what we see. >> evidence. this can't be controlled and you shouldn't try to control it. >> culture war is bubbling under the surface. >> they had a room at the office called the kink room. >> secret identities. >> real. >> people want to help people. as if it's like a sport. >> and lies. >> i was completely black balled in the community. >> further on the margins, the rise of alternative tech platforms. >> so offensive. >> and there's a delicate line between free speech and censorship. >> we kicked them off at some level because they're jerks. >> is the very same technology designed to give everyone a voice dividing us further?
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>> let's start here. new york's brian park on a beautiful day. and as andrew mclaughlin, former director of public policy at google tells me, a perfect metaphor for the internet as we know it. >> for the internet, we built this incredible common space, platforms like facebook and twitter were created. >> a virtual town square. but, that might have been idealist idealistic. >> economists for 100 queers have had this principal which is called the tragedy of the commons which says if you have a common space, a park, and anybody can go and use it without control, the tragedy will be that that space gets trashed. >> fast-forward to the internet today. social network's promise to -- army of bots spreading propaganda threw twitter and
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hate speech going viral turning off line. the virtual town square is getting overrun. as a result, these platforms are falling into an uncomfortable role as the gatekeepers of content. >> i think it is really risky, if you have a group of essentially ten tech ceo's if you somehow offend all ten of them you can effectively not be on the internet anymore. >> the irony matthew prince is talking about himself. he's the founder of cloud flare, a company that helps protect websites from hacks. >> i woke up in h a bad mood and felt someone should not be on the internet. >> we kicked them off at some level because they were jerks. i think we have a right to pick and choose who we do business with. >> a customer he's talking about a neo-nazi site. >> since that time there have been calls for over 3500
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different customers to be terminated. i worry that having made this one decision that is going to be harder for us push back against those others. >> being the referee of free speech is complicated. just ask twitter cofounder and ceo. >> you get into an area where most tech companies will be like oh, it's not something that really fits in our model or that we would even be good at. >> increasinglincreasingly, you whether or not you like it have to make decisions that are kind of editorial. >> there's judgments how it, works, what the feedback groups are. >> those editorial decisions can be controversial. >> it started with that one e-mail from one of our supporters, saying i pulled it up on my browser, and i wasn't able to find the video. what happened? did you take it down? >> she is the ceo. they produce videos for youtube that promote conservative
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ideology. it was founded by -- >> that the trump election unleashed. that was all a lie. pure lie. 100% lie. >> no it wasn't. >> we are not a university. we believe that not all universities, but many universities in america, for the most part, have a left wing idealogical bias. >> there are about 250 of these videos on youtube. around 35 are currently restricted. >> most places of work, school libraries will put restrictions on the browsers because they don't want young people oral employees sitting at libraries watching pornography and violence. >> they etreached out toing go . >> i guess if you don't agree with our ideology you would say it's controversial.
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>> here's a look at what got restricted. >> all those diversity administrators, they depend for their livelihood, that means their paycheck, on creating victims. >> the sexes are different. rather than trying to quash this reality, which can only lead to more needless confusion and suffering, not less, we should step back and marvel at it. >> on its site, youtube says it uses a combination of video titles, descriptions and community guideline reviews to filter out potentially mature content. when ask the specifically about prager u, they responded broadly. giving them a choice to object into a mostricted, it's not senr ship. >> it goog at the one that gets to decide. >> whether it's google or cloud flare, tech companies have the right to make the decisions, but increa increasingly there's the
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question of transparency. >> we could have said they violated section g. >> but that's kind of bs. >> it would be bs if we did it or any other technology company does it. that's the point which is important. there are arbitrary decision that is get made. we should own those editorial decisions. >> then there's the fundamental question of what happens when people get kicked off. those no longer allowed in the virtual town square are now building out their own plat forms and becoming a haven for friend views and hate speech. >> we're here to talk to you about the playoff of youtube. >> anthony may field is the founder of hue tube. >> when they see this crackdown, i think they're offended. >> it's his alternative to youtube. >> i knew at the beginning it would be mostly fringe characters. >> here's what that looks like. this is a pretty horrific title for a video.
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♪ ♪ >> so gracious images, or anti-semitic images, that's pretty awful. i'm running into like trouble. do we even show any of this. or do we just kind of scrap this. because i don't actually think that some of these people deserve a platform. and clearly some of the tech companies don't either. but the news value there is that they have a platform, and that they are gathering and so you can't ignore it, even if you don't agree with it. >> pew tube is one of many alternative sites popping up. this is cody wilson. i spoke to him years ago when he was working on a pretty controversial project. >> i think i'm known for one of the more radical free speech activists. >> he was dubbed one of the most dangerous people on the internet when he posted instructions
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showing how to 3-d print a gun. >> fascists probably. >> he's a very famous troll. >> yeah. you get somebody like -- it's nice endorsement. >> one of the worse trolls on the internet. >> i think so. >> mr. spencer i think is considered a pretty successful troll. >> keep in mind his ideal is to have a white ethnicity. should these people get a platform and where should the line be drawn? >> are you worried some of this will incite violence? >> no. i'm not worried about it. i mean when i'm talking about like -- outside someone's home, there's a mob and say there he is, get him. that's not protected speech. but these personalities, they
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represent elements of a political speech that should not be censored. >> well he doesn't align himself with all the world view, wilson is enabling what he calls the political speech of these characters. he's taking a cut too. he gets 5% of every dollar raised on hate tree on. scratch the surface and you'll find out it's about more than free speech. >> i like creating interesting problems from small things and probably end up creating a bigger turmoil. it's sitting there waiting to be attacked. we'll see what interesting fish we attract. >> what do you think the interesting fish is going to be for this one. >> i think very big. >> how big. >> maybe like influential in h the ultimate failure of the european project, breakup from europe. undermine the powers of traditional liberal institution. >> coming up next on divided we
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there's a real fear. >> he's not hiding his identity because he's committed a crime
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or worried about his safety. >> i describe myself as a blend of conservative and libertarian. >> he's an entrepreneur who's worked with several big names in tech and conservative in silicon valley. it's enough to make him want to go incognito. >> is saying i want more border security are go people going to complain to hr. >> he's not the only one in hiding. we speak to several others, they said the stakes were too high to share their identity. here's another one who spoke to us on the condition of anonymity. >> i walked into work with a make america great again hat. peep l take it as a personal affront. i would expect to be out of the company. >> these are the undercover conservatives are silicon valley. it's the perfect equation for a culture war. playing out in what has long been a mecca for liberal politics. >> it's a big deal, these tech
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companies have more and more control over the things you see. easy content distribution coupled with viewer gatekeepers, and people in these companies, far more power, which is why i think it's a sad state where conservatives feel they might lose their jobs if they speak out about some of the editorial positions that -- >> but much of trump's rhetoric is counter to the silicon valley and increasingly tech ceos are becoming more vocal. >> instead of building walls, we can help people build bridges. >> we benefit from integration. we benefit from diversity. >> we believe the dreamers are contributing to microsoft, taking a public stance we will fight for the rights. >> the ceo had the position on something when comes to business --
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>> those senty timents behind ce the doors came to a head in august. >> a 10-page memo is causing all kinds of waves. >> the fired google engineer, now he's speaking out telling our own why he wrote the memo. this is james. there are many conservatives that are in the closet quite literally. im i still can't express many of my views, in that memo he criticize the google's lack of diversity. they called on them to stop alienating conservatives. he also took issue with the diversity initiatives. he said that women on average are more neurotic and have higher ax anxiety. >> computer science hasn't always been dominated by men. it wasn't until 1984 that the number of women started falling. how does that fit into your
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argue. as to why there aren't more women in tech? >> it was simply different kinds of work. it was more like accounting rather than modern-day computer programming. >> you say those jobs are more like accounting. look at grace hopper who pioneered computer programming. katherine johnson, mary jackson. those aren't accounting type jobs. >> yes. so there were select positions that weren't. and women are definitely capable of being competent programmers. >> he was fired. google ceo said his comments on women violated the company's code of conduct. but some believed he was fired for his ideological beliefs. >> conservatives at google who are already on edge are terrified of being fired and being found out. >> army dillen is a civil rights attorney now representing him. and she says she's been getting
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calls from other conservatives who say they've been discriminated against. >> he said they black list people who step out of line. that means out of line politically. >> where do they say this? >> inside the company there are list serves where managers brag will black listing people. >> a google spokesperson says they don't condone black lists. >> if you're a young man in your 20's, and making a quarter million dollar whatever with your salary, bonus and stock, do you want to be the martyr of conservative rights by standing up and saying hey, i'm a conservative who's been discriminated against? >> the multimillionaire tech entrepreneur, and unlikely poster boy for discrimination. >> right now conservatives are the underdog. >> how does that play out. >> what it looks like is being
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disciplined for innocent remarks, it's being not considered for job opportunities in internal promotions and abruptly terminated for manufactured reasons. >> just so ironic because i feel like you could literally take that exact thing you just said and apply that to some the women's cases at these tech companies. i'm sure you got a lot of calls from conservatives. i got a lot of calls from women in tech. >> i've suffered sexual harassment a as a women as well. the fact that that exists does no the take away from the fact that political and viewpoint discrimination. >> conservatives might think they're the underdog but here's another story. >> i would every once in h a while find underwear. >> you had to clean up underwear from your office space? >> yeah. >> the reality for some women in silicon valley. after the break.
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everything talks about how it progresses and so forward thinking. >> silicon valley promised to code solutions to the world's problems but can't seem to fix one of its own. >> gender discrimination, harassment. >> in may, elizabeth scott filed a lawsuit against her former employer. it also had a reputation for its parties. >> i thought these are young, like me and we're go getters. >> daisy burns is another former employee. >> i was blown away. >> young founders, millions in funding, a party culture. it created a perfect storm, according to elizabeth's lawsuit. >> one male employee talked about how he refuses to wear a condom and has sex with over 1,000 people. male employees engaininging if sexual conduct in the office. >> there was a space called the kink room. >> a kink demo in there.
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the lawsuit says they used the room for sexual intercourse. screen shots show internal chat boards where quote random sex sessions were joked about. >> i would every once in a while find underwear in that room and make jokes about it and have to clean it up. >> you had to clean up underwear from your office space. >> yeah. that was a part of it. start-up life i guess. >> according to the lawsuit, female employees were expected to act as quote mommies. >> women are viewed as the people that clean up underwear and do the wishes. >> the lawsuit also has more -- ina-0 proep kbr in'appropriate kmeptsdss. cut out of a markets campaign because of he he body shape. >> it was not the demographic. it was really sad. >> elizabeth says she was fired days after complaining to a
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manager. >> that was kind of the breaking point for me mentally. >> after seeing elizabeth's lawsuit, daisy and other employees sent a letter requesting the founder stepped down. when they refused, she quit. a. >> here's what the founders are saying now. >> i totally understand how a young woman just moving into san francisco and moving in where there was loud music and open bar i can -- >> the very specific claims of these women were more than i was uncomfortable at a party. it was oh i was uncomfortable because i had to pick up underwear from the party or because there was a male employee talking about having sex with 1,000 women and not wearing a condom i want to give you guys the opportunity to respond to that. >> um, yeah. i mean i think the whole team has realized sort of the party culture nature of the company. we've put a lot of structure. we established z an hr
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department. >> were women expected to do tasks like the dishes, whereas men weren't? >> there were things we were doing that we didn't realize the impact they were having. the there was never anything where we intentionally, wh where we were thinking she's a woman so she shouldn't do this. i promise there was never any of that thinking. >> i don't think we had the experience early on to recognize that shift that needed to happen. >> but for some women, it's just not enough. >> this has to stop. if it it's held for one person, then i knowdy the right thing. >> the question remain, now what?
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