find all the answers you're looking for. because getting what you need should be simple, fast, and easy. download the xfinity my account app or go online today. this is gpst global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show president trump breaks decades of tradition on jerusalem. >> it is time to officially recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel. >> those words upset america's allies and enemies alike. one ally was of course pleased. >> president trump, thank you for today's historic decision.

>> but will it put peace further out of reach? >> i have a great panel to debate. also, it was the united nations that laid out the plan for jerusalem in 1947. i have an exclusive interview with the secretary general to get his reaction and to talk about his broader relations with president trump. and also, what can possibly be done about north korea. >> hope is the last thing we can afford to lose. >> but first, here's my take. with his decision to move the american embassy to jerusalem president trump did something puzzling for a person who claims to be a great deal-maker. he made a massive preemptive concession to one side in a complicated negotiation without getting anything for it in return. if that's how he operates it's no wonder so many of his former colleagues think he isn't

actually a very successful businessman after all. jerusalem is israel's capital and will remain so. i don't dispute the fact or its merits but the reason that all 86 country that is have embassies in israel have so far located them in tel aviv is that jerusalem is an integral part of the final settlement between israelis and palestinians. it contains site sacred and a large arab population that comprises more than a third of the city's total. so the formal status of jerusalem has always been seen by republicans and democrats as a matter to be codified. trump's announcement appears to be designed largely to delight core elements of trump's base at

home. evangelical christians. the only strategic aspect is it will help shore up the senatorle contest in alabama. there are ways to solve the jerusalem problem such as by carving out some neighborhoods in the eastern part of the city and align the palestinians to claim those as their capital. trump's announcement did not foreclose the possibility, it achieves little on the ground all the while offending millions of palestinians and public opinion almost everywhere. when china, european allies, the pope, the kings of saudi arabia and jordan all voice strong opposition it is worth questioning the wisdom of the policy. while many people predicted violence in the middle east. it's likely this will be contained. israel is the super power and

its neighbors know it. it has tight control over the palestinian territories with the network of intelligence operations. terrorism is a problem that has simply gone away. the real danger is that this decision only adds to the mounting despair of palestinians who already weak, divided. they barely have any leadership now and live in an almost unique condition in the modern world, citizens of no state without a country of their own. meanwhile, israel will continue to prosper economically and maintain its genuinely democratic character but with this one large caveat. it will rule over lands with millions of people who lack full political rights. that's the heart of israel's democratic system and culture might intensify as israeli arabs grow in number. there will be an israel that looks like switzerland. it's possible that at some point

this inequality of income status and political rights will lead to some kind of explosion. it will certainly lead to greater polarization and discord and america's action this week will have deepened these fishers and exacerbated those tensions. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and reed my washington post column this week and let's get start started. ♪ >> let me bring in ours to continue on the conversation on the president's controversial move's on jerusalem. richard hoss is the president of foreign relations and author of "a world in disarray." a former negotiator and spokesperson for the palestinians. and dory gold was israel's abs

to t -- ambassador to the u.n. and joins us from los angeles. what do you think the effect of this decision will be? does it not simply ratify reality? >> not at all. on the contrary, it undermines the chances of peace, totally destroys american creditability standing, influence and disqualifies from taking any role in peace making in the future and sends a message that you can impose unilaterally outside the law and get away with it. but if you commit to a negotiated settlement based on legality and justice then you get no compilation. this has moved the u.s. from being a so-called peace broker to becoming complicit with israel and its crime. israel has jerusalem legally in

1967 and has placed west jerusalem under its sovereignty in 1948 even though its legal status remains as separate. we have so-called peace broker that has taken sides blatantly and has rewarded impunity and has sold out the palestinian people as well as the chances of peace and has succeeded and won to undermine the security and stability of the whole region. >> dory gold, isn't it fair to say that while this might provide some emotional satisfaction for israelis that it ratifies the sense of jerusalem as their capital which it is de facto? it does complicate at the very least perhaps threaten the peace process and any ultimate deal

with the palestinians and feels like in return for the emotional -- you're giving up a lot. >> i view it quite the opposite. i think in order for negotiations to succeed and i've been involved in a series of negotiations to the why agreement and onward. there has to be -- you have to get the parties into what i call the box of realism. and unfortunately, those who have been engaged in peace negotiations on the palestinian side haven't been there. partly it's not their fault. partly it's the fault of the international community which has organizations which in may 2017 adopted yet another resolution which disqualified israel, cut off the historical and legal ties of israel to jerusalem. and in a certain sense what president trump has done, he's introduced an important correction. i may say a brave correction in

the whole history of unesco resolutions. they're based on political power exercised against the state of israel. >> richard hoss, can you split the difference on this? can you be -- >> in some ways this conversation raises the issue. why would you want to put jerusalem out there naked, alone at the beginning, as the engine rather than the caboose? the sense is it was going to be the most difficult issue to contend with as part of a final status. yes, it does recognize one side of reality, on the other hand, why would you do it in a isolated way. give something to the israelis, why not ask something ons settlements or something else? my problem is to tryout one thing now, the most combustible

emotional of issues in isolation from the rest of diplomacy. what's the potential upside? but i do see a lot of potential downside? >> we're gong to come back to talk with the terrific panel about something perhaps bigger than the israeli/palestinian struggle. the cold war between iran and saudi arabia. is that now the key driver in the middle east when we come back? i don't want to sound paranoid, but d'ya think our recent online sales success seems a little... strange? na. ever since we switched to fedex ground business has been great. they're affordable and fast... maybe "too affordable and fast." what if... "people" aren't buying these books online, but "they" are buying them to protect their secrets?!?! hi bill. if that is your real name. it's william actually. hmph! affordable, fast fedex ground.

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than as a rhetorical matter and is even less central to the views of arabs? if you look at saudi arabia today, it seems to be in alliance with israel. because it is obsessed with iran. the palestinian issue has been thrown to the wayside completely. are you now really on the losing side of this new -- this next great power game in the middle east? >> certainly the palestinian question is in a difficult position given the realities of the region. giving the transition we are undergoing and given the fact we have proxy wars in countries like syria and libya and since the war on iraq and now the war on yemen and since there is a new polarization attempting to create a sunni devise of the

whole region. of course. deprive us of much support that we really need. i think that given also the fact that israel's impunity has continued without any intervention, without any question, without any accountability, and destroying the two state solution by the way and given the fact that u.s. cover for israel has come out to collusion and destroyed the peace process, so now we find the palestinians have to turn inwards and look towards themselves to strengthen their ability to remain on the land and to withstand all these pressures and changes and on the other hand, to reach out to the international community for sources of protection and accountability for israel. so i would say yes, these changes are extremely -- i think the whole region is on the verge of serious transformations that are not necessarily positive.

>> perhaps the palestinians will now move away from a two-state solution to a one-state solution to say all right if there are these millions of palestinians being denied full political rights, perhaps, what we need then, the palestinians would say simply voting rights within israel. we have to be citizens of some country and we will take -- we ask them we begin citizenship in in israel. isn't that a real danger here if the two state solution evaporates that you will end up with a one state solution with a majority arab population? >> let me address what the real danger is in the middle east. but just to answer your specific question, i was the director general of the ministry of foreign affairs of israel and we had a very clear diplomatic doctrine. our doctrine was first, we seek

to negotiate with our palestinian neighbors. second of all, we're prepared to reach a generous compromise with our palestinian neighbors. third, we seek that any structure of a solution be based on cooperation between our two societies. between our two political entities and that's what we have been pushing. unfortunately we have gotten a flat no on all three of these fundamentals of our diplomatic doctrine. making it all the more complex is something you eluded to. the main diplomatic actor affecting the future of the middle east is a man by the name of general mati, the commander of the revolutionary guards. today iranian forces have boots on the ground in lebanon in syria, in yemen and in iraq. that is really what's changed the nature of the middle east and if there is a consensus among all of us who support

stability and support progress, it is that this iranian role must be discontinued. we hope that in our diplomacy and connections whether above the table or below the table we can put the middle east on a better footing to oppose iranian expansionism which is seeking to build a land bridge from iraq all the way to the mediterranean and a military presence in the areas in between. >> richard, could you imagine a one-state solution with palestinians demanding almost in a kind of gandhi-esque martin luther king way, look you have to give us some kind of rights, we live on this land, we control it. >> i can imagine people pushing for it but i don't think it could be a solution. israel can't be a secure jewish

democratic state. some things have got to give. there's an irony to this whole conversation. people like me have sat on your show and criticized this administration for a lack of diplomacy towards north korea and what they're doing to the state department. here you have a diplomatic initiative but it's the wrong one and going to make it more difficult for the united states to work with the saudis and others against the iranian and imperial push. we finally get diplomacy. the bad news, it's a counter productive example of it. >> they are saying you have just complicated our lives because it's hard for us to ally with you while you are being so seemingly one-sided. >> all these regimes sit uneasily on top of their populations. this is an issue that has potentially real popular interest and emotion and the saudis in particular are interested in consolidating power. this is just the sort of thing that might make it difficult for

them to be seen by their own people to be cozying up to the united states. >> this and spending $500 million on a painting and $500 million in a few months. >> all in an anti-corruption campaign, yes. >> thank you very much. fascinating conversation. next on gps, bill gates and warren buffett have as much wealth as the first half of the united states population. so where does inequality come from historically? it seems to have started with big, strong horses and cattle. i will explain when we come back. i love you, droolius caesar, but sometimes you stink.

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now for our what in the world segment. we told you on the show a few weeks ago how just three americans, bill gates, warren buffett and jeff pesos have more wealth than the entire half of the united states population. the u.s. has the highest level of economic inequality in the entire world. the tax bill is probably only going to make things worse. it will further enrich families like donald trump's. now a new study published in the journal of nature gives us historical perspective going way back. a team of researchers led by timothy kohler used a very modern tool. it's a scale you might have heard of. developed by an italian statistician in the early 1900s it measures inequality on a

scale of 0 to 1. in a group in which one individual has all the wealth and the others have nothing you have a score to 0. the german bank has one of the most quoted scales out there ranking the united states as the most unequal nation with a score of 8.1. germany is 0.73. russia is at 0.69. south korea with a 0.54. china with a 0.53. all far from totally equal which would be 0. so the team applied it to archeological data from 63 societies, some dating back 11,000 years to the beginning of the new stone age when society started to settle down the permanent structures and plant

crops. few records were drawn from this period and some archeological sites were better preserved than others but what they all had were the remains of houses. big ones for richer people, smaller ones for their poor neighbors. what the research suggests is fascinating. before the ad vent of agriculture which is recent in the long perspective of human history, there was very little inequality. societies had low median scores. 0.17. then the do most occasion of animals. especially the large ones that did all the heavy farming work. so if you had oxen or horses you were a much more efficient farmer, thus you could sell more crops and get richer. you would by more horses or oxen or plow more fields and get even richer and leaf ve it all to yo

children. the farmers who could not afford animals were left behind. it often perpetuated itself. modern societies found ways to break the cycle. through capitalism awhich allowd bright and successful people to rise up. but this new elite has found ways of per pep waiting itself by stacking the deck in its favor as the tax bill does. the greatest inequality that was found was a 0.68. an egyptian settlement. he studied the rise and fall of societies had some words of warning for us. if we become to unequal violence and state collapse could follow. next on gps, my exclusive

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it was almost exactly 70 years ago the united nations passed resolution 181 that calls for the city of jerusalem to be a separate entity under international control. after fighting the following year, 1948, jordan took control of the city's east while israel got the western part. in 1967 israel rested control of the entire city. two years following that original resolution, antonio manuel was born in lisbon. a life long activist, he serves

as the secretary general of the united nations. on wednesday after the president's announcement, gutierrez said we were in a moment of great anxiety. i sat down with him in the chambers of the u.n. security council. >> mr. secretary general, pleasure to have you on. >> all a pleasure to be here with you. >> what do you think is the danger of president trump's recognition of jerusalem? you spoke out with some concern about it. >> well, you know, i was quite open in relation to the efforts of president trump was making. with his team. to try to bring israel and palestinians to accept a solution. in the past we had several times a peace process. but they would break and worse than what they were and i think president trump had intuition the best would be to try to negotiate the full package.

i know that kushner and others were involved in this dialogue with the palestinians and israelis and there was hope that it would be possible. there was a hope that it would be possible to finally bring this conflict between israelis and palestinians to an end. the decision that was taken wednesday risks to compromise this effort and if that is the case it will be a pity because it will be so important to find a solution to this crisis. in my opinion it must be a two-state solution but it is so important for this crisis. >> you said you were hopeful and even impressed by some of the things president trump was saying to you i imagine on the israeli/palestinian side. on many other issues, he has seemed to take a very negative view of international

institutions, multilateralism, global agreements. he's pulled out of the paris accords, defunding or pulling out of u.s. funding of unesco. do you think this is the united states turning its back on institutions like the u.n. that it created after world war ii? >> well, i think that there is a vision that is expressed in the sentence america first. the vision that the interests of the american people are best protected by the u.s. and itself and that international organizations do not contribute much to it and many of the global issues of today are irrelevant for the interest of the american people. i believe it's not true. u.s. is too big and too relevant to be able to think it alone.

the way it seems happening in the world is a very important impact as the way things happen in the united states. so it is very important for the world and the united states that the u.s. engages in climate action, migration and engages in addresses crisis like palestinian where the role of the u.s. can be extremely important. leverage to have pressure on the conflicts in order to be able to make them understand that it's necessary to stop those conflicts. in the end, what is clear is that wherever the u.s. doesn't occupy the space someone else will do and this in the end will be detrimental to american interests and the lack of

capacity to have stabilizing in the crises we have and so linked to problems of global terrorism. to engage in the affairs impacts negatively on the security of any people including the american people. >> when the united states steps back, others step forward and naturally their interests and values might be different. i feel as though you are already seeing this with the rise of china, with china saying it's more than happy to play a larger role. of course, you have a certain amount happening with russia. is that dynamic already accelerating? >> i think that dynamic is evident first. we are no longer in the bipolar world of the cold war. we are in a chaotic world. different countries are trying to assert themselves in different ways.

you see turkey. this is a world that became difficult to predict. where unpredictability and impunity are the new rules of the game. that is why american influence is so important as a stabilizing factor. a country like china, i believe china can see they have chances to become the largest economic power in the world. it is clear that wherever the united states leaves some space china will occupy it from the development point of view. if one looks at geometric congratulations in the middle east, russia, or iran or saudi arabia, will consider that an opportunity for them. it is obvious for me from the point of view of the international community as a whole, the fact that the united states does not engage in a situation is not positive. makes things less predictable

and from the point of view of the united states it represents a -- we live in a world the dangers are real for all of us. we have no concerns with the nuclear -- with the north korea crisis and with the questions about the future in relation to the nuclear -- there is a risk that none proliferation enters in the future. again, we thought about this since the cold war, a nuclear threat. the global middle east, now it's not only the iraq crisis, everything is now interlinked. you have the memory of the cold war still. u.s./russia relationship. but you have the israeli/palestinian question and all this contradictions are now

piling up, interacting with each other and making the whole middle east becoming a very dangerous area for the world because it's linked to problems of global terrorism and then we have climate change which is probably the defining one of all times. i believe that when the world is facing these kind of threats, it's very important to come together. it's very important for all organizations and very important that a country like the united states plays a constructive and engaged role. >> next on gps i'll be back with more of my interview with secretary gutierrez. oh, not so fast, carl. ♪ oh no. schwab, again? index investing for that low? that's three times less than fidelity... ...and four times less than vanguard. what's next, no minimums? ...no minimums. schwab has lowered the cost of investing again. introducing the lowest cost

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united states. >> the general feeling is that north korea, the situation is at an impasse. no good military option. the north koreans seem determined to acquire a large and robust nuclear capacity and the only country that can do something about it is china which will not cut off fuel supplies. is the world going to have to live with a nuclear north korea that might have an arsenal larger than great britain? >> hope is the last thing we can afford to lose. there is a very important factor here. the unity. of course, that does not solve the problem but it is clear there is a large pressure over north korea and i think the north koreans are feeling it. if that is maintained i think it

also paves the way for a diplomatic efficieinitiative to possible. i don't think china controls north korea. i think north korea became an entity in itself. but i think for the north koreans that is also a question of survival and my belief is if the unity of the council is maintained i think north korea can be forced to come to a meaningful dialogue, namely the united states, that is probably the only power they fear, and pave the way for the denuke larization and we should do everything we can to reach that objective and i believe that a diplomatic solution is the way to achieve it without a level of danger that again would be unpredictable in its consequences if a military option would be taken. >> you were the commissioner for

refugees and we look at the situation for refugees around the world which is the worst it's been since world war ii. the trump administration's new travel ban has just been okayed by the supreme court. what do you say to the american administration which appears -- the united states already takes very few refugees and appears to be closing its doors even to that small number? >> what i say to the american administration or to europe or to countries in the north in general is that it is essential to re-establish the integrity of the refugee protection regime. that is basically international law. it's essential to understand that refugees are not terrorists. they are the first victims of terror. they are those that flee because of the action of terrorists. and when one looks at countries like jordan or lebanon that have

received millions of refugees or kenya and yuganda, we are ready to have our share to receive also a meaningful number of refugees. of course there are security concerns and there are ways fortunately in relation to registration, to screening today to be able to detect those situations in which there could be a security risk. i have to say that my experience is that those that really have terrorist intents they look for other ways because the refugee movement is so scrutinized, that it's not the best opportunity f from that point of view but there are ways to do effective screening and guarantee the security namely of the settlement program. my appeal to the global developed world is be more

generous to refugees. be more able to share the huge contribution that countries in the south that ones i mentioned and that will be in my opinion have very important factor to increase peace and stability in the world. >> you mentioned that you felt the world was getting more chaot chaotic, not so much multipolar. do you worry it's getting to the point where it's turning into anarchy? >> let's hope not. i think the role of the united nations is exactly to avoid it. as its mission, primary mission to preserve peace and security in the world. we have seen that the divisions in council have made it difficult. it's our role to do everything possible to avoid these rather and structured situation of global power not to lead to the kind of chaos that would make --

to become much worse. i think it's time for people to understand that what divides the countries is much less than the vital interest to preserve global security and the vital interest to address challenges like climate change. >> mr. secretary general pleasure to have you on sir. >> thank you very much. >> next on gps, the state of terror around the world. are terror attacks and deaths in decline or do we have an upswing? we can tell you what the trends look like when we come back. their pensions and their jobs. i'm tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it's why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse.

they won't tell you that their so called "tax reform" plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations, while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit and that means fewer investments in education, health care and job creation. it's up to all of us to stand up to this president. not just for impeachable offenses, but also to demand a country where everyone has a real chance to succeed. join us. your voice matters.

america great again slogan has been put into numbers. a research study out this week found 41% of americans feel like in the u.s. is worse than it was 50 years ago while only 37% feel it's better. but the global survey assesses the mood in other countries and brings into my question. which nation will strongly believe the life to be better in their country today than 50 years ago? vietnam, turkey, germany or india? stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. this week's book of the week is "rescue." this is a powerful book. part memoir, part urgent plea we take a more compassionate look at the plight of refugees around the world. it's holiday season. so read this book and please let it move you to some action. and now for the last look, more than 300 people were recently murdered in a heinous attack at an egyptian mosque when the

president retweeted questionable anti-muslim videos posted by a internationalist group. his press secretary said -- >> whether it's a real video, the threat is real. >> of course, it is. but this year's news is that it is actually diminishing. let's look at the numbers. overall, the world saw 13% decline in the number of terror related deaths last year according to the most recent global terrorism index. the largest improvement was in nigeria where deaths decreased by 80%. in fact, four of the five countries most heavily impacted by terror, afghanistan, nigeria, syria and pakistan, recorded a reduction in 2016. nose countries along with iraq did caccount for three-quarters of altl terrorism deaths.

the report does note another increas increase, the number of country increased in 2016. each of the death is a tragedy. but the numbers should be kept in perspective. after all, cdc data shows that more than 38,000 people in america alone died from gun-related injuries last year. the answer to my gps question this week is a, 88% of viet m s mees. vietnam's booming economy can take credit but bear in mind the 2017 equals 1967. that year the u.s. military stepped up its efforts to crush the escalating of the violence

of the vietnam war. venezuelaens thought life in their country today was better. i will see you next time. >> hey, i'm brian stelter and this is reliable sources. a look at the story behind the story. how the media works and how the news gets made. ahead today, this network, cnn under scrutiny for a faulty report about donald trump jr. and wikileaks. why were there so many mistakes made by news outlets just this week? and as the russia drip drip drip of real information continues to come out, so do the right wing media attacks on bob mueller's creditability. what's the end game here? later david axle rod to talk about the president's tv habits and the rise of political contacts. tuesday's election in the state