>> we all know the senator does not like to be challenged and often rises to one. i challenge him to get up and come on this show and take on this tax plan and fight about whatever he wants on the show, he can have as much time he wants so get after it, senator, and come here and let's see what you have. >> thank you very much. we are following a lot of news this morning, so let's get right to it. it has strong support or we wouldn't be moving forward. >> it's like robbery. >> they are going to pass it as quickly as they can. >> this debate is far from over. >> i like auomarosa. >> as the only african-american person in the white house, i have seen things that made me uncomfortable. >> if that's the case, where in the hell are the black people.

>> the relationship he has with putin i find baffling. >> the president needs to take it seriously enough. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning and welcome to your "new day." it's friday, december 15th, 8:00 in the east. there are some headwinds. senator marco rubio surprising some in the party saying he will not vote for it if they don't increase the child tax, and they may come up and say, whoa, i won't vote until you give me fill in the blank. >> and then paul ryan doing soul searching about his career, and friends claim he plans to leaving congress if this tax

bill passes, and we will speak to a panel of trump voters about how they feel about their votes and the direction of the country and what they predict in 2018. let's begin our coverage with joe johns live at the white house. >> reporter: the white house hoping the tweaking is done. members of congress, the republicans, hoping they have the final language for this big tax bill. the white house also hoping they will get a bill on the president's desk before christmas, but there are still concerns, a possibility for holdouts, including republican florida senator, marco rubio, including some other members of the senate who have been harshly critical of the president in the past. >> been a great guy and very supporter, and i think senator rubio will be there. >> reporter: prime minister confident marco rubio will be

onboard with the tax bill despite his declaration he will vote against the bill if they do not raise the tax credit. >> i remain surprised there's not more consensus to support the reality we need to do more to help people in the country. >> reporter: rubio tweeting tax negotiators did not have much trouble to lower the top tax bracket and start the corporate tax cut a year early. >> really -- >> reporter: rubio's demand raising questions about how republicans will pay for the bill which cannot add more than $1.5 trillion to the deficit, and with a narrow 52-48 majority in the senate, republicans can only afford to lose two votes and still pass the bill along party lines. the impact on the deficit

prompting bob corker to vote against the bill, telling cnn thursday he has the same concerns he has had in the past but declined to say how he will vote on the updated legislation. two other wild cards, senator john mccain and thad cochran away with medical issues. john mccain is in the happen being treated for side effects from the therapy. appear spokesman for senator cochran is doing well and available for votes if needed. vice president mike pence delaying his trip to israel in

case he needs to vote. house speaker paul ryan dismisses rumors he is considering leaving congress after the mid-term 2018 elections. some of ryan's close friends telling cnn the speaker has been doi doing soul searching about his future. >> the president did speak to the speaker not long ago and made sure if that news was true he was very unhappy with it. >> reporter: in just a little while the president heads out to the fbi national academy. he is expected to be giving a speech to the graduating class. it will be interesting to hear what he has to say given the fact the president recently questioned the fbi's reputation. the president also goes over to camp david for the weekend. back to you. >> thank you very much. for all of the background, joining us now to discuss, we

have josh green and jonathan martin. let me put up -- joe just outlined some of it, but in the graphic, we have senators to watch. marco rubio, bob corker, he doesn't like it increases the deficit and then the health issues of senator mccain and concrain. >> keep in mind this is a senate where one person has a lot of leverage when the majority is this close. what i don't understand, guys, politically, why the president wouldn't see how this is being framed as a ctax cut for the rih and corporations and not try to work with rubio to get help on the refunding side, and the politics of that would be a no-brainer and for a president

worried about the image and the perception of the bill, to say marco will be there for us instead of talking about ways to get to where rubio is for just political purposes is confusing. >> he's doing both, right? the president is calling governors and different congressional guys to talk to him about this, so he's probably playing it on two fronts, right, josh? let's be honest, who wants to be the vote to keep this from passing. >> i don't think trump's phone calls are going to make a big difference in this affair. he's tried to lobby senators in the past in other issues and frankly has been ineffective. i can't imagine we get to the end of the day and rubio votes against the tax bill. i think part of the indication for rubio is, look, this is an unpopular bill and republicans convinced themselves they have to pass it, and rubio is a guy

that probably harbors presidential implications, so if you have refundable tax credits for low income and working families and make a stand on that, and then years ago when people say you voted for the tax bill, and you can say, no my role in the bill was carving out tax credits for working family and if rubio can extract concessions, which i think he can, he can have that argument going forward. >> here's what michael bloomberg put out. >> republicans in congress will have to take responsibility for the bill's harmful affects, and trump is making the same mistake that barack obama made in his first two years in office, believing his party's congressional majority gives him a license to govern without the other side. the tax bill is a blunder that

will harm our future. >> the comparison to obama is not new, but it certainly does have the air of an echo to it. you look at what happened in 2009 and 2010, democrats lost places they should have won n. this case, massachusetts, and then they ram through legislation down a party line basis. we have seen this movie before. what is different and why republicans should be more concerned than democrats were in 2010 is trump is more unpopular than president obama was then. a good chunk of the country is eager to vote against anybody they see as supporting this president, and so if i am a republican going into next year's mid-term election, i would be concerned about this landscape. >> i will give it to you as a choice here, josh. who do you think stays longer -- i will make it even easier --

harder. what do you think is the better chance that happens, paul ryan leaving or rex tillerson leaving? >> i think both will happen, but i would bet rex tillerson leaves before ryan. assuming republicans can get this tax bill over the finish line, which i think they can, that will be a real substantive career-making achievement. if you look forward, the role of republican leaders, it's not an easy path to walk. john boehner got pushed out and mcconnell is historically popular, so if you are paul ryan why not leave on a high note after the tax bill passes instead of getting pushed out the way your predecessor did.

>> i think rex tillerson's number is coming up sooner than paul ryan. i would be surprised if paul ryan sticks around that much longer. is he going to quit after the tax bill passes? perhaps not. it's hard to see him being speaker in 2019. i don't think he wants to stick around. he's a market-oriented conservative, and he's not happy with the tilt of the party and not happy in a house of cats and gop caucus. i would be surprised if he's still in the house in 2019. i think he wants to get back home. >> there's a suggestion that he may want to get out because he may want to come back in and run for president. how injured do you think he is, josh, by being so quiet in the face of things that the pre-trump ryan would have found so appalling? >> everybody in the party, with

a few notable exceptions has been implicated now in the trump presidency. ryan was one of the guys that held out and did not endorse trump when it was clear he would be the nominee for weeks afterwards, and he decided it's best to try and cooperate and get along, and maybe we as a party can get something out of this. i think if the tax bill passes in the next couple of weeks, that bargain will essentially have been worth it. whether or not that's a black mark on his record, i don't think we will know for a long time. >> thank you for the analysis. meanwhile, special counsel robert mueller in the crosshairs of the republicans, and they want him fired. we test their case next. you do all this research

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investigation, but that man, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein appointed by the president of the united states named trump did not share their concerns about the mueller or the integrity of the russia investigation. again, this comes amid the growing calls, almost exclusively from republican lawmakers saying this probe is biassed and he should be fired. congressman matt gates joins me now. first the best to you and your family for christmas. thanks for being on "new day." >> you as well, chris. i will say it's not just republicans making these calls. harvard university release add poll where more than half of the american people believe there is a conflict of interest. i think they need to fire mueller and cure us of the conflicts. >> first, polls are not equal. i did say not exclusively republican -- >> it's harvard, chris.

>> i get it, i know the school, it's the second best in the country, yale being the first. what do you know that rod rosenstein does not? he's in charge of the situation. he knows the people better than you and he knows what is going on better than you and you heard him there saying that's not my concern, we can handle it. >> well, chris, all the american people can see the text messages were forced to be released because devin nunez was about to subpoena them, but you don't see the reflection of the political believes, you see peter strzok that not only worked on the hillary clinton e-mail scandal, and he says he didn't see a reasonable person could vote for trump, and he calls himself the insurance policy and he praises his girlfriend's role in laying

out a plan to disrupt the election back in august, and this is an action plan to disrupt the presidency -- >> that's your interpretation. >> there's an inspector general is more independent than you or any of the partisan, but more importantly, you said there's a group, an infection to one person. so why -- >> one person? that's not true, chris. >> you went to one person. when you went to your example of where this infection is, you named one guy. >> let's name another. bruce ohr, his wife was an employee at fusion gps a company getting paid by the fbi and the dnc potentially to go and collude with russians to dig up dirt on the president. how about the fact that more than half of the mueller people

donated to clinton and none to trump. this is not the case of one person. it's a pervasive conflict of interests. it's like when mueller was fishing he was fishing in the never trump tank. >> mueller has been a republican longer than you have considered being a republican, and everybody in your party said he was an excellent choice. what changed other than your disinchantment with the direction of this probe? >> for over 4 1/2 months we have had a committee calling for a special counsel to review these things. >> why would you have a special counsel? they only -- you have the inspector general, you can have a committee but why a special counsel. it's not a crime. >> you have prosecutional misconduct, and the things

hillary clinton did were crimes and they were never investigated, and -- >> you had jim comey that did the worse thing that happened in the election for hillary clinton, and you are forgetting do you remember during the probe, hillary clinton and her supporters were making this same argument you are making right now, these people in the fbi hate me and they are all coming up to comey and saying she has to be investigated, and i don't remember you being concerned about that. >> chris, there is actual evidence that hillary clinton got special treatment. it's literally a reading of the e-mails from andy mccabe saying hillary clinton is going to get special treatment. these are not opinions on my part, they are the actual messages that people in the fbi were sending to one another. you made the point that mueller was interviewed for his old job back, the fbi director position,

and i think that's a key fact on the 16th of may the president interviews mueller and tells him he will not be the next director of the fbi -- >> that's not our read on what happened. how do you know that's what happened in that conversation? >> well, look, i mean, you have got a situation where rosen steen walrosenstein walks mueller out -- >> it's rosenstein. how do you know that? >> within 24 hours rosenstein appoints him to be the head of the probe. if he was being considered for the job back, the job he wanted, he would have gotten it. >> hold on, hold on a second. don't over power me with your, you know, your wisdom of the law kwaeu shus attacks. if trump didn't like mueller, okay, you are saying you had this meeting, you are not getting the job and you don't make the grade, and then right after it the guy that he

appoints to head up what is happening in the doj picks him, the same guy he leaned on for this memo about why comey had to go -- >> rosenstein wrote that memo. you are making a lot of assumptions there. >> i am making none. i am asking questions based on your assumptions. >> look, the timeline is what it is, right? the fact that mueller after getting rejected for getting his own job back and picks andrew weissman to be his number two, and you are saying he couldn't pick somebody that didn't attend the hillary clinton election party, and the conflicts of interests abound. this is not an opinion, it's action, chris. you have weissman sending an e-mail on his doj account praising somebody for defying the government, and that's not

an opinion, when strzok says i will be the insurance policy, and he talks about his girlfriend, lisa page, throwing out a plan in mccabe's office to undermine the democracy in our country and the congress has an obligation to expose what i believe is a corrupt investigation and i call on my republican colleagues to join me in firing mueller. if there's collusion of russia, let's see it. >> you have been involved with federal investigations in the past? >> look, i have not been the subject -- >> no, i am not indicting your character. i have said if you are around them or monitored them, the idea that this investigation is taking too long is absurd. they always take long time. you talk to career prosecutors --

>> we are not veinvestigating a drug dealer on some corner. >> they have an unlimited budget and more people veinvestigating trump than the oklahoma bombing. i voted against the budget to blow up the deficit. >> i am talking about the tax bill. the tax bill. >> yeah, that tax bill should have been accompanied by spending cuts. >> did you vote for the tax bill or no? >> i voted for the tax bill but i did not vote for the budget that allowed it to occur. >> but i am saying if you want to be a penny pincher -- >> i am not going to hold taxpayers hostage. the president has promised that welfare reform is next and we will try to get the deficit under control because the criticism that we are blowing up the deficit is a fair one and we need to cut spending. i agree with that. >> we went from mueller and now

to taxes. this matters as well. i am not feeling you on this. help me understand your position on this. you can't look at this objectively or subjectively, the tax bill, and see it's good for the deficit and even if you look at the magic of growth you all talk about. you voted for it. >> i voted for a budget that would have demanded simultaneous spending cuts. chris, at the same time, like, we have the congress unfortunately that acts far too lineally. >> why did you vote on the tax bill? >> because i don't think we should hold taxpayers hostage because people in washington don't know how to cut spending. we have to cut taxes to get there. >> why do you have to cut taxes to get there? we have growth right now and allen greenspan said you don't

need a tax cut. >> a lot of the growth is expecting a tax cut. >> the stock market is anticipating. anticipatory. >> the wages will rise with investor conference. >> who says giving corporations more money will make them raise wages. >> chris, that will be a sugar high if we deliver on tax cuts. the stock market is at an all-time high, and by the way something your network never gives the president credit for. >> stick to the facts. stick to the facts. the idea that we don't talk about it and talk about his share of the responsibility as well as the fact that trump always said before he ran, and even a little during it, stop looking at wall street as an indicator of wall street, that's

deceptive. i don't see how you can look at it and say i am taking care of the deficit, i voted for the tax bill, they don't go together. >> that's why we have to cut spending. >> you voted for it and you said it will take it out of -- >> do you think we need to block medicaid. those are the things that save money. people on the political left, including your network, don't be supportive -- >> you can't make strong arguments. if you have the facts -- if you don't have the facts argue the law, and if you don't have the facts, argue the law, and if you have neither. cnn is not your problem. >> i do believe that we ought to deal with the deficit through spending cuts. it would be nice if we had bipartisanship on that. >> you are creating your own

problem. >> people who can go to work and choose not to don't need entitlements, they just get entitlements. if you have real work requirements then you could reduce spending by hundreds of billions. >> the idea that malingering is the problem with the entitlement structure is insulting to the reality -- >> $400 billion you save with the work requirements. my state wants to do work requirements. we tried to do them but the federal government wouldn't let us. we could unlock the potential of our great system, and we could have the state of maine where work requirements were installed and if we had washington exercising less control you would have more of a vibrant

system where more could work and that could lead to growth, and these things could compound and lead to growth. the first step is the tax cut and the next is spending cuts. >> the reality is this. you say you don't want to be linear, and you should look at it in less than the linear way, and you could do spending cuts and didn't have to blow up the deficit with the tax bill. as always you are welcome on the show to make the case, and i wish you and your family a good christmas. >> you as well, chris. >> be well. how are president trump's voters feeling today about the republican party and everything chris just discussed, so we gathered a group of voters from virginia, new jersey and alabama to take their temperature and get predictions. here's part two of our pulse of the people.

how many of you think that what happened on tuesday night in alabama is part of the blue wave where democrats are rising up and being heard. show of hands. >> no. >> everybody is saying what the republicans did on the ground game to get trump in office, they are taking notes. the democrats are finally saying whatever they did we will do better. >> if the democrats want to do something, they have to get rid of biden and hillary and go to the west and get a democrat that thinks about jobs and the economy and they can get it back, if they keep going those people they have they will not win. >> donald trump, steve bannon, they are probably why moore lost the race. >> it's not a party thing. it's a human thing. it's a human thing. i think humans in alabama voted for a human in alabama that was not a bigot, that was not full

of hate and did not use god as a weapon and a body shaeuld field himself. >> the next person who is elected in the midterms for president it's about the person and not the party. >> it should be. >> it better be. >> do you think this race had national implications? >> not really. >> it shows the people are not in favor of the republicans. i think the republicans are on their way out, if you ask me, and as long as they have donald trump as their leader they will continue to lose. >> you were all donald trump voters. how many of you today regret it in part? three of you have regrets. mike, you are interesting. did you really regret it the next day, the day after he won? >> well, after hearing him talking, the way he was coming at the cia and he just began turning me off there and then.

>> the day after his inauguration you regretted it. >> yeah, i began to regret it. there was something wrong with this guy, i think. he lies so much, i can't stand him anymore. he changes his mind so often and he says things and does things and he says it just for the change. >> i disagree wholeheartedly. >> everywhere from obama to clinton to bush, all of them, it was just the same thing over and over, deeper deficits and more government intervention and more spending and more messing up the world, but i seen something different in trump. he is doing everything he said he would do. >> you changed your party affiliation in order to vote for president donald trump. >> yes, i did. i love the fact that he's an outsider and not completely embedded in the political existing system. that i give my hat off to him. >> now you regret your vote? >> yes, i have a love lost. i do.

it has happened because of the things i disagree with, especially with the cut to the bill in education for the arts. having grown up in queens and into long island, those programs were hugely impactful on my life. >> the other thing i should mention about you both, you are married to each other. >> yes, ma'am. >> so you are now somewhat of a regretter and a strong supporter, how does that go over at home? >> fine. we are two intelligent people that understand that politics is not the end-all or be all at the end of the day, and we have difference of opinions. we love each other. >> when it comes to an african-american issue, the nfl, he focused on something that is not relevant. african-americans are being slaughtered by police officers

and itthey are not being prosecuted. >> donald trump alienates people. he comes out with remarks and then the next day trying to justify himself. he alienates people about moving to jerusalem and on the environment. >> 2018, we're going to play a little game and you are going to finish the sentence. we will start with you. >> okay. >> 2018 will be the year of blank? >> humanity. i think the world needs to take note. we're done. we're done. >> with what? >> hatred. pure unadulted hatred because of the way you look or dress or how you act or because of -- we're done. it's a human thing now.

it's a human thing now. >> you are hopeful? >> i believe in people. >> steve, 2018 will be the year of? >> wow. i think what she just said. >> you are hopeful, too. >> that's pretty powerful. you are optimistic. >> i think that's pretty powerful. yeah. >> republicans are going to hold the balance of power in 2018? >> in the mid-term, yeah. >> it's the economy. y'all don't understand. it's the economy. >> mike, 2018 will be the year of what? >> democrats. >> oh, we're still thinking party. >> i think the elections in alabama is an indication is they are on their way out. >> no. >> i don't see how people can vote for republicans. >> it's going to be the year of progress. >> darius, what do you see? >> the year of americanism. >> amen.

>> what does that mean? >> like she said, there is no party. again, me coming up in urban areas and being with a single mother and a little sister, i have seen one side hiding under tables from gun fights outside, and then the better life over here, and there's always a connection with the people we are around, white, black, spanish, we didn't have these problems. with our political talk that we can just tap it down a little bit and start bringing people together and seeing the similarities instead of the differences so we can get to a better place. >> i hear so many people saying that and craving that. they say they want to vote foreperson and not party and what they hope for in the next elections is a good person. >> once again what frustrates people about the panels, they voted for somebody that exacerbated somebody in the

division and put us in a precarious position. >> and they regret their vote. is that your own personal view? >> i like watching them. i enjoy the television quality of it. i think we should talk to people that voted against trump also and independent voters. >> yeah. >> i don't -- it's not just me. i will show you my twitter thread. i think it's informative to have them on but it's frustrated objectively because there's a disconnect, we want to come together and be about people and then you voted for somebody that did the opposite. >> i am hearing more often people citing humanity and craving humanity and maybe there's a wave -- >> you should vote that way, too. it all comes together. >> let's see what happens in the new year. here's good news that you love.

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so they are going to get this done by christmas, or not? it seems like a forgone conclusion and now the question is whether or not you see some of the issues about political opportunism, or is there trouble in getting the vote done. marco rubio from florida says if you don't expand the child tax credit, he's a know. mike lee, another senator, says maybe he will be, and then the health of two other senators raising concerns. let's get the bottom line with chief political correspondent, dana bash. >> it's dicey. right now it's the whole notion of passing this must-pass bill

is unclear. i think at the end of the day it's unlikely that marco rubio is going to want to be the guy to kill it for lots of reasons. first and foremost, he's a young man with ambition still far beyond the senate, and he's likely just using the fact that he understands basic math and that if they lose his vote they are in big trouble for leverage on an issue that he feels deeply about and in terms of the raw politics can use in the future. look, this is what happens when you have a very slim majority and you are trying to get a piece of major legislation through with only your party. it is down to the wire and it is really unclear how this is going to go. i can tell you this. i have not talked to one republican on any part of the gop spectrum, guys, who has not told me that this is nothing short of political life or death for their party and more

importantly for the majority. if they can't get it done it means they did not get any major legislation done in the first year of total republican control and it's going to be very hard to go back home to their districts and states and face their constituents. >> we are thinking about senator john mccain. we are concerned. we hear he's at walter reed getting additional treatment for side effects from the cancer treatment. do you have any reporting on how he's doing? >> he's not doing well, which is why they decided to admit him into walter reed. look, he's in his fourth or fifth round of very aggressive treatment since being diagnosed at the end of july with very aggressive brain cancer, and it takes a toll. anybody who has known anybody, and unfortunately that's far too many of us, who has been diagnosed with cancer knows it's

often the treatment, the very, very strong toxic treatment to try and kill the cancer that also really, really hurts your body and everything that goes along with it. so he is in the hospital. some people, who i have talked to, who are close to him said they wished he had taken a breath and taken a step back before instead of going to work pretty much every day while getting the treatment, even though he did not feel well, a lot of those days. but that's john mccain. that's the way he is. he didn't want to hear it. he wanted to go to work and not miss a vote and now he's being forced to. >> let me ask you about this so people understand, whether it's john mccain or thad cochran from mississippi, is there any allowance for proxy voting or non-in person voting? >> no. there's no allowance for non

in-person voting. in the case of thad cochran, he, according to his office had outpatient surgery for a melanoma, and they hope he will be in a position to be able to vote next week. with john mccain, they are taking it day-to-day, frankly, hour-by-hour. if john mccain wants to get in there and vote, he's local. he doesn't have to get in a plane. if he is well enough and wants to make a difference on this and be the hero for republicans as opposed to obamacare where he was the hero for democrats, you can be sure he will do what he can to make that happen. >> we want to ask you about the moment that has gone viral from a committee yesterday where senator kennedy was trying to ask one of president trump's nominee for a judicial judge questions about legal cases. here it is. >> can you tell me what the

dough bare standard is? senator kennedy i don't have that readily at my disposal. >> do you know what a motion in limb aknee is? >> i would not be able to give you a good -- >> how about the pullman extension doctrine? you will see that a lot in federal court. okay. >> these were not gotcha questions. why was he so ill prepared? >> it's very hard to understand why he was ill prepared? >> and a motion in limb anay is latin and it's somebody everybody learns their first week in lawsuit, and it's a

motion outside of the jury, and that was surprising. >> this morning you thought i was a daughter, but i am not a lawyer, either. >> but you did stay at a holiday inn express last night. go for it. >> you are a lawyer and you know these things are basic. i think it speaks to a very big question, a very big issue. number one, this is why checks and balances exist. this is why the senate is supposed to make sure that a person who is going to have a lifetime appointment on a federal bench is qualified. also, i can tell you this is a big fear, as you can see, from the republicans and democrats because now there is no filibuster on the nominees. if republicans are okay with the nominees, they get through with a simple majority vote and that's thanks to democrats who change the rules.

>> dana, thank you. you fooled us. we thought you were a daughter and lawyer. >> if only, my mother would be so happy. >> i know your father and they could not be more proud. >> thank you so much for the bottom line. time for "newsroom" with poppy harlow and john berman after the break.

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