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been waiting for now for weeks. there will be no changes. >> i don't know about me personally, but for the country as a whole it's going to be a good thing. >> the president's lawyers are planning to meet with robbert mueller and his team. >> when you look at what's gone on with the fbi and with the justice department, people are very, very angry. >> he is way, way beyond the pail in his criticism of the fbi and the doj. >> drum beat of war against north korea growing louder by the day. >> the united states will use all necessary measures to defend itself. >> the united states must protect itself if there's an immediate threat against our security. >> this is "new day" weekend with victor blackwell and
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christy paul. >> the president could be getting closer and closer to his first major legislative win, a final deal on tax reform is on the table and house speaker paul ryan says that the first big vote could happen on tuesday. >> the final details of the bill released last night so let's get you up to date here. despite a pledge to reduce the number of personal income tax brackets the deal does keep all seven. the plan lowers tax rates for most of those brackets. >> and then there are a few provisions here. the biggest tax cuts goes to businesses. the corporate tax rate drops from 35% to 21%. you remember the president wanted 20, but le's okay with 21. the bill also calls for a $2,000 child tax credit which flipped rubio from a no to a yes. >> individuals will also be able to deduct up to $10,000 in state and local taxes. and the estate tax exemption
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would be doubled. obamacare does take a hit under this plan. it removed a key individual mandate to help finance the bill. >> republicans cannot afford to lose more than two votes to get this to the president's desk in the senate at least. abby phillip joins us now. the president called senator rubio on the bill after senator rubio became a yes. do we know what they talked about. >> reporter: good morning. well, the president picked up the phone and made a call to rubio yesterday after rubio indicated in some tweets that he was likely to support the bill. the call was to confirm that that was a firm yes and to thank him for his support. remember rubio has been working with the white house on this ivanka trump in particular has taken an interest in this child tax credit issue and he's not been estrained from the process when i talked to white house aides. they expected him to come on board as lodge as he got a
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little bit more money for that. the white house is trying to button this one up max making sure they don't have any surprises. >> let's talk about the degree of confidence from the white house and the health of two senators. senator mccain obviously of arizona struggling with some health concerns. will they be back to cast those affirmative votes? do we know? >> reporter: well, we're not entirely sure. i think cochran who's been dealing with ongoing health issues, his staff expects he will definitely be there next week although with health it can always change. john mccain is the wild card he here. he's been dealing with the cancer battle and his health has not been particularly good as he's dealing with side effects of chemotherapy treatment. and an indication of how
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concerned some republicans are, the president called into the hospital and talked to his wife cindy mccain. the president tried to get through to john mccain but for whatever reason wasn't able to and the white house indicating that that -- in that conversation the president, you know, wished him and his family well. we also saw the press secretary tweeting words of support overnight. so there is some concern that john mccain's health is not what anyone would like it to be. that being said, even if both of those senators are not in the senate next week there's still confidence that they will get this passed. thank you. our political analyst and white house sporter for the wall street journal and the political reporter for the daily beast. i want to start with you michael. they're watching this and they're thinking what does this mean to me? on the surface, on what we know, what's the biggest takeaway?
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>> well, it depends on who you are really. as you mentioned earlier there's some really big cuts here for corporations and there's some really great tax cuts for business owners up to a certain income level. and individuals will see a cut initially here across the board. the problem with some of those individual cuts though is that they phase out overtime and it's up to future lawmakers, future versions of congress to decide whether to extend those breaks. and you know, finally there are -- what -- it doesn't really mean anything yet. we still have a few days to go. you mentioned some of the folk to watch here. it does look like they have the votes to pass this bill, but you know, they thought they had the votes to pass the health care bill until the moment when john mccain walked on to the senate
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floor and gave a thumb's down. it does look like they have a bit more of a cushion on this one, but you know, with congress, let's -- let's just wait to see until they actually get the votes and get this to the president's desk. >> this was promised as something that would be simplified. do you see a simplified version of taxes for the american people here? >> well, it's simplified in the sense that the white house was trying to get -- or republicans in congress were trying to get the actual tax reform bill. unfortunately for the trump administration this is not the ambitious wide sweeping tax reform bill they wanted. this is at best a tax cut bill, something more of the run of the mill republican. to go back to what's in the bill, i think this is a bit of a mix of promises trying to be kept and also promises being broken in term of candidate donald trump. on the campaign trail the
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current president promised repeatedly that people like him, fabulously rich americans would not be given a major giveaway. given the nuances on the bill, that's -- that's a bad joke at best. if anything, something like the trump organization, which is considered a pass through, benefits very, very, very much from this. but in terms of trying to keep promises, in the bill, there is the nuking of the obamacare individual mandate even though the republican congress and the president have failed to repeal obamacare. this is something they can give as a sock to their base saying, look at all the work we've done to undo the quote unquote damage that has been done by the affordable care act. >> i want to pi votd here to something that happened overnight that i think is confusing to people and it's a bit perplexing but the trump administration announced that they are prohibiting certain words to be used in reports that will go for budget, specifically
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from the cdc. vulnerable, entitlement, diversity. transgender, fetus, evidence based, science based. we look at some of those and we understand the political power play that might be ingrained in this, but vulnerable, entitlement, what does that say to you? >> well, that says to me that -- that, you know, these -- this is a president who doesn't really put that much stock into -- the white house thinks these words are being overused and overplayed and overdefined. you can chock this up to a president who promised to be politically incorrect coming into office and you know, he -- so some of these words and definitions aren't going to hold the same sort of sway and stock in this white house as they have in -- in white house past, and
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we're seeing that again with this list here. >> yeah. the -- the people who were in the meeting, it's reported in the washington post, a long time cdc analyst that they talked to, said the reaction of people who -- when they got this news, the reaction was incredulous. he said it was very much, are you serious? are you kidding? >> have you ever seen anything like this and do you suspect, is there room for the cdc to push back on this? >> well, it's a little bit unclear at this moment and this certainly does stick out as something not necessarily business as usual. but if we all remember that president trump campaigned on being allegedly the most lgbt friendly republican, at least running for president in recent
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history and just to see words like diversity and transgender on the so called banned list of words seems like a reversal of promises in terms of standing up for minority and lgbq community that seems all too normal with this administration now. >> if i could jump in here, i would say that maybe a parallel here is rick scott, the republican in florida who is close with trump and one of his early endorsers, a lot of similarities between the two as well. both outsiders. both had no political experience at all in elected office or otherwise before being elected to the current office. rick scott in florida a few yeari years ago banned the references to climate change and this seems to be like -- it seems to be a pretty close parallel to that dicta back then. >> and the trump administration
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has been going through motions as well. >> we appreciate you both. thank you. new prop gaganda calling th president frightened. we're live from the peninsula next. plus, as the gop gets closer to passing tax kwcuts, will tha fix the brand by roy moore. >> and the highest african american leaves the white house. . because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. which helps provide for win's family. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters.
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>> the comments after tiller sovereign and secretary of state mattis. >> that's true and we have to recall this is somewhat historic that you had a u.s. secretary of state and a senior north korean diplomat sitting in the united nations security counsel. so that's kind of a step forward, we haven't seen with the trump administration and north korea. that said, they both stuck to their guns. they both pointed the finger at each other for the tension on the korean peninsula. take a listen to an excerpt of what the north korean ambassador
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had to say. . >> the ambassador's statements were somewhat more moderate, you could say, than the stuff we're seeing in the north korean state media today where one report describes president trump as a quote, old lunatic and goes on to say, quote, war maniacs of the u.s. are urging congress to discuss the issue of pre-emptive attack. only to make a war against the dprk an established fact. in his comments, secretary of state tillerson, well, he said he was open to sitting down and talking with the north koreans, but without any -- without any preconditions to those possible negotiations. and recall, north korea has fired at least 20 missiles this
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year alone and conducted a sixth nuclear test, all of those are banned according to multiple united nations security council resolutions. >> thank you so much. >> let's stay with north korea and a pretty dangerous place to be there and it's the number two spot, right under kim jong-un. >> there are strong indications that kim has moved against a man who occupied that number two position and it's likely that everyone else inside kim's circle is looking over their shoulders. here's why. >> reporter: intelligence officials from washington to seoul are paying closer attention to kim jong-un's sinninner circle. >> he could be being sent to detention. he could be retired or he could be executed. all of these things are on the
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table. >> reporter: he also could be undergoing so called re-education, time in a prison or labor camp to brainwashing him to towing the party line. would hwang have been purged? a south korean lawmaker told cnn tfrs for quote, impure behavior. he directed north korea's general political bureau which makes sure every soldier in north korea's massive army is properly indoctrinated. a north korean soldier made a dramatic defection across the border in mid november, but analysts say he could still be taking the fall for that. >> it was an embarrassment and someone had to pay for it and it may have been hwang. >> he was involved in a power struggle with a man who has close ties to kim jong-un's family. experts say it's likely a
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revenge play for a move hwang made three years ago. >> we know he replaced him as the head of the general political bureau in 2014. if you look at the formal leadership lineups of the two -- of the north korean leadership, the two have interchanged places on a number of occasions which would suggest a possible rivalry. >> reporter: analysts believe it's also possible that hwang simply amassed too much power which threatened kim jong-un. a u.s. intelligence official tells cnn kim demands loyalty and has a history of punishing officials who he views at gaining prestige at his expense. he also loves to pit his top aides against each other. >> it's kind of like a lion tamer in a cage with lions. they can take him out, but if you have each of the lions standing on a very small platform they're more focused on
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staying on that platform rather than lashing out. >> reporter: the only person seemed safe inside the regime, is his younger sister. kim did execute other members of his family, his uncle, his half brother but she's a direct blood relative who kim jong-un trusts completely. one analysts says she's bunker safe. >> the final version of the gop tax plan has been revealed. next, will it pass? will you see a difference in your paycheck? >> and if it does pass, could it reset the narrative for the gop and move them beyond any damage done by roy moore, say, in alabama. i tried hard to quit smoking. but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it's the best thing that ever happened to me. every great why needs a great how.
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you're up early on a saturday morning. we're glad you are. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is where the action is happening, at least starting tuesday. the gop tax plan will go to the floor on tuesday. then we'll see when the senate hits it. we've seen the back and forth, right, the negotiations, the duelling bills in both houses of congress, big votes coming on tuesday. it's going to head to the white house after that if it passes both chambers. >> they're hoping it will be at the president's desk by wednesday which means he could be days away from delivering
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that promise of tax cuts before christmas. this is not a done deal yet we have to point out though. the white house is not sitting on the sidelines though, they are active in this. >> if this bill passes, will it be a big win for the white house? will it be a big injection of new life and energy for the gop and move them beyond a lot of the damage that we saw this week or the last couple of weeks by the candidacy of roy moore? joining us now to talk, cochair of women vote trump and michael singleton, good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> i want to put the roy moore, steve bannon conversation a little later and start with taxes here and let me start with you. this very likely will get to the president's desk in the next couple of days. i want to talk about how the tax plan corresponds with what the republican party says it is. the definition of the priorities of the gop. we must impose firm caps on
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future debt, accelerate the repayment of trillions we now owe in order to reaffirm our principles of responsible and limited government and remove the burdens we're placing on future generations. this will add a trillion dollars to the deficit. so reconcile these two things. what the republican party says it is and what this bill does potentially to the deficit in the next ten years. >> well, victor, i mean, i think the independent tax foundation analyzed a bill and released some data a few weeks ago that end kal indicated over a ten-year period we're likely to see a million jobs created. a 2.9 increase in wages. the child tax credit is going to increase by 65% which will benefit families across the country, but as it relates to the deficit, that is something as a fiscal conservative that bothers me and it's my hope as
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we get closer to the passage of this bill we put more measures in place to reduce our spending because that's critically important as the country continues to expand as we continue to fight terrorism around the world. you can't continue to print more money because of course that adds to the deficit. that causes further issues which is why the fed as we have seen has for the third time increased rates and so i think a lot of people at least on a conservative end of the spectrum will probably raise arguments that we need to do more to ensure that the deficit does not increase. >> you're not the only person bothered by this. we heard from senator bob corker during that first senate vote who said this. this was december 1st. i'm not able to cast aside my fiscal concerns and vote for legislation that i believe based on the information i currently have could deepen the debt burden on future generations, but amy, just yesterday he said this, the question becomes is our country better off with or without this piece of legislation?
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i think we are better off with it. nothing dramatically changed as it relates to the deficit. is what happened to the concern and what do you tell republican voter who is will also concerned about the di asian to taddition deficit. >> i'm not sure of anything other than what you read there. but i do think that it's a once in a generation opportunity, it's been over 30 years since we had tax reform last. we know it's a huge task and i think that probably many people are thinking, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. this is a good start. either you start here or you get nothing at all and as we all know it's about compromise in washington, so this is a good start and let's go forward and cut back on some other things and cut the spending and reign in that deficit and i believe too that as more money comes back into the country and these corporations create jobs and more people are spending money, it's going to create -- it's
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going to create more income for the federal government and pay down some of our debt and deficits. >> we'll talk more about taxes later in the show. i want to witch to tswitch to tn in alabama. there's a piece about how some of the establishment krrepublics are trying to cut him off at the kne knees. i'm talking about steve bannon here. >> back when you backed candidates in 2010 and 2012. is he good for the republican party as they try to legislate? >> i know it's easy for everybody to lay the blame on steve bannon, but you can't lay this at steve bannon's feet. i firmly believe that had mitch mcconnell not gone nuclear on roy moore in the runoff, that we wouldn't have been in this
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situation. quite honestly i think if mitch mcconnell had stayed out of this race we would have ended up with mel brooks as the nominee and he would have won that easily. >> mel brooks the congressman from northern alabama who came in third in the primary. >> right. but i mean, also you have to remember that were it not for the tea party movement, we wouldn't have ted cruz and marcomarco rubio and some of these other senators. so while they want to think that mitch mcconnell has all the answers, that's not true. >> but if not for the tea party you wouldn't have the loss of sharon angle in nevada. >> that was a democratic seat -- >> those are also seats that the republicans were expected to win. or had a good chance of winning. >> the democrat seat in nevada it stayed in democratic hands. the thing is, you come to a
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point where when you have a republican that votes with democrats more than they vote with republicans, we don't need that. that's watering down the brand. that's diluting the brand and i think that's what happened with christine o'donnell and withed to akin, i was one of the first ones to call on him to get out of that race. now here we are six years later. it's an opportunity for republicans to take that seat, but i think every race is different and we have to look at them differently. >> let me say this as i come to you. some republicans who vote with democrats more than they vote with republicans, many of the senators that bannon will challenge in 2018 vote 80% or more with president trump, maybe 80% isn't enough for bannon, but those are the numbers. let me come to you on this other element. you've written in the past earlier this year about president trump and his relationship with steve bannon and their marketing genius as you call it. is his relationship now damaged with the president? i mean, he encouraged the
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president to back roy moore, but mitch mcconnell encouraged the president to back luther strange. they both lost. >> no, i think it does put the president in a very precarious predicament because i think steve bannon certainly understands the language, the moods, the feelings of many of the individuals who support president trump at the base and that as his core and i think for the president stepping away from steve bannon too much i think he jeopardizes losing some of that support with his base and he cannot do because as we now his approval ratings is extremely low and so you don't want to lose that core base of support. but i think roy moore, backing him by the president, by the rnc was certainly a mistake. i mean, you saw there was an influx number of african women and men who turned out against roy moore and arguably against president trump and i think if steve bannon continues to
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support these types of candidates and contest republican candidates who would likely one it's going to be debtry mentdeb debtry mental to the party. they become synonymous with the gop as a whole and for me as an african american republican who is of course concerned with minority outreach and engagement and targeting, i wonder how much that will be a problem as the country becomes more diverse. >> thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks, victor. well, controversial senior sta staffer is out. she was tasked with improving african american outreach. the question is when it comes to black support for the president, did she do more harm than good? doesn't make the holidays. it's what's inside that counts. it's a phone for mom.
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>> reporter: on the view she piled on. >> i hope you find your people. she does bring so nasty to so many women of color. >> talk show host like wendy williams. >> did you have a nose job? >> no. >> it looks like you had a nose job. >> funny, before and after. before and after. >> but if i can suggest because the only thing i've had done to my face is a little botox, i would suggest for you some rest. the lines stay. >> and i would suggest a wig that doesn't sit off my head three inches. >> after she took the white house job, spike lee had an especially strong reaction. slamming her on instagram, posting this picture of her wearing a clown nose. and despite all her claims she supported president trump only
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their help, apparently it is changing. there is a growing change of doctors and patients getting off the therapist couch. >> you know this is how i should be approaching it. i am shutting that out right now. for some clients coming to therapy in an office setting is intimidating. walking side by side, clients are able to open up. >> it makes me open up and it makes the conversation natural. >> if we are too close to others, we'll stop a minute and we'll let people pass. >> i am an outdoor guy, this is a natural fit for me. the park was part of the process
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when i had therapy in the past and going into the office, it does feel sterile. >> when we are out walking, we are moving forward and it is the exact same thing in the therapy process, withe are moving forwa. what everybody have been waiting for weeks, there is a final bill and there will be no changes. >> i think we are going to be in a position to pass something as early as next week snooc. >> sources tell us that the president's lawyers are planning to meet with special counsel, robert mueller. >> when robert mueller picking his team, he's fishing in the trump's forum. >> he's way beyond the pail of

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