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businesses and wealthy taxpayers. consequential for the deficit too and maybe a big boost for the economy. the president and his party are counting on this to be a big political boost which remains to be seen for a number of reasons. one, new polling shows president's approval rating at 35%, a new low for the survey. tlookt the president has the lowest approval at any point in office going back to 1963. as for the tax plan he'll sign tomorrow, it too is strikingly unpopular, just one in three americans support it right now, which no doubt makes for interesting uncertainties to head for a white house that's about to celebrate its first big legislative victory. more from jeff zeleny who joins us from the white house. what is the latest from there tonight? still confident on how this will play out? >> the white house is very confident how this is playing
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out. they are watching the debate unfold on the senate floor. an aide told me this is largely just a pro forma. they are watching but not worried at all. they know they have the votes they need. it's interesting, though, a few weeks ago president trump talked about getting democratic support and votes. that will not happen. we know the democrats are opposing this lock step. republicans, though, do believe they have votes and one reason we know, i'm told by an official they're planning a celebration ceremony tomorrow afternoon here at the white house. they've invited republicans from capitol hill up here to celebrate the passage of the listing legislative victory. all that is just procedure. the white house is intending to take a victory lap tomorrow. the preponderance wisident will bill at that time. he will before the holidays.
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republicans are expecting to be here for what will be a celebration tomorrow, john. >> the question is will they be celebrating 11 months from now. any worry inside the white house about fallout in the coming election year? >> that is the central question. we know this will be the sound track of the 2018 midterm election campaign without question. the race to define this bill is already under way. it's going to center around the president. will he benefit more than middle class americans? he has not released his tax returns, so that's something that's preventing that white house for saying definitively if he's going to be better off personally or not. but the white house is hoping to get that increase support number up. we saw the poll there a second ago. 33% support it. they believe the president plans to travel in january selling the benefits of this. but john, some people are going to be affected by this in negative ways. so it's a very open question
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here next november by the midterm time if this is going to be a mistake tonight. >> i don't think there's any debate if he will be better of this tax plan. >> as a businessman for sure. >> jeff zeleny at the white house, thanks so much. the bill hit a speed bump today. fill mattingly joins us with the latest on that and what it changes. even though this is a done deterioration we're looking at democrat bob casey on pennsylvania on the floor tonight. they're going to take this late into the evening, right? >> no question. they know writing is on the wall. this is the same for the house and senate. they know there's no stopping this, unlike the health care effort. their ability from the grassroots side of things to pull republicans away from the rest of their conference, didn't work out. they are unified and they are set to pass this with zero "no" votes. however, democrats continuing
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attacks about the merits of the bill, and now somewhat personal attacks. take a listen to at a when a senator brown had to say. >> this tax cut, follow it simply. this tax cut causes huge budget deficit tog money to the wealthiest people in the country, creates a huge hole in the budget. who it's going to fill the hole in the budget? not the lobbyists walking out of senator mcconnell's office down the hall. they're not going to pay for it. they're not going to have to pay for it. >> i can tell you senator mcconnell's office didn't appreciate that. one of his advisers tweeting shortly after, dear senator brown, apparently decor rum escapes you. republicans know where they are on this. but the frustration you've seen about the partisan process, certainly being laid bare on the senate floor right now. >> what happens next? >> the senate should pass the bill in a couple hours, likely
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around 11:00 p.m. it's a foregone conclusion in terms of the votes. but procedural issues have popped up because of the budget rules. republicans are using this to pass by a simple majority. there are provisions that will be stripped out because the house passed a different version, that means the senate will have to send the bill back to the house. the house will then pass the bill again tomorrow morning. at this point it's just adding a couple hours to where everybody knows this is going to end up. but for republicans who were planning on celebrating tonight, they have a couple more hours to wait. >> i want to bring in our money and power panel. mark lauder, kirsten powers and matt lewis. criter this is the first major piece of legislation that guy that will get passed so in that sense it's a win. they will celebrate tomorrow at the white house. but how long will this celebration last given the
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unpopularity of this bill? >> i think the republicans would say it's unpopular because the democrats have demagogued the bill and when people get their paychecks and realize they have more money that they'll be happy with it. but the reality is whether you're ideological or not, there's a lot to be concerned about in this bill. and i think while there will be tax cuts for pretty much everybody in the early days of this, the only ones that are permanent are the ones for people who are well off. over the long term, i think people are going to sort of see what's really in the bill. they're also going to see a disruption in the health care market because individual mandates will be repealed. people can see this is a deficit-busting bill that will be paid for pretty much by the middle class. and so i don't think over the long run they're probably going to fare very well. maybe not short run they can do okay, but in the long term this is not going to be a great idea
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for them. >> matt lewis, not only is the bill itself unpopular, but the president is unpopular. historically unpopular. 35% approval rating right now. in the shermort term do you thi this gives him an opportunity to redistrict his presidency? >> he has points on the board. he goes from having what looked like a horrible year if you talk about tweets and chaos to having a pretty good year. if you look at the metrics and points he puts on the board. this is the short term. donald trump needs popularity now. republicans need success in midterms. it's not too soon to start thinking about donald trump's re-election. it's going to be unpopular. it's very difficult now. it would take tremendous political leadership to do
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something of this magnitude. look at obamacare. look at the effort of george w. bush to fix social security. if you want to change something, if you want to use your political capital and implement your party's agenda, and they do believe that tax cuts are going to stimulate the economy, there's going to be backlash. >> it cost george w. bush and barack obama politically. >> when have tax cuts been unpopular. this is unusual, actually. if you're cutting taxes for people -- >> paul ryan claimed the reagan tax cut was unpopular. but by and large they are wildly popular when they go through. mark, we've listened to republicans for years talking about how increasing deficits is a terrible thing. debt is bad. deficits are bad. yet now the republicans are pushing through this bill which will add anywhere between a trillion to $1.5 trillion to the debt over ten years. so what about all that talk about deficits being bad?
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is this republicans saying nevermind? >> no, those are the facts ignoring that this is going to grow the economy. >> how do you know that? you look at history, that hasn't been the case. >> you go back to the reagan tax cuts. government revenue was higher after the tax cuts than it was the year that the taxes were cut. you had 15 million jobs created per capita. >> the debt was way higher. >> that was not a revenue problem. >> it's a money problem. >> we can control the spending if you keep republicans in control. you'll control the spending. but this is coming down to the fact you're going to have americans getting more money in their paychecks in february. they're going to see it. anywhere from $150 to a couple hundred bucks for the average family of four starting in february. they're going to be able to spend that and put that towards their kids' education, take a vacation, whatever it is they feel like they need to do for their family. and that is something the republicans can run on. if the democrats are going to
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turn around and go on we're going to raise your taxes, they're going to lose in 2018 and in the future. >> go ahead, dillon. >> here's where this tax bill loses credibility and this is why i believe it's so unpopular. there's an extremely sound argument to increase the available pool of money in the private sector, whether it's wealthy females, small businesses, corporations. understand, money moves down the path of least resistance. if you really want to have money flow into the economy, you will create a tax benefit for the investment in new business formation, for the investment in capital expenditures, new hiring. absence a specific incentive to invest the capital in jobs and new business formation, the path of least resistance for new money in the private sector is into the bank of those who get the money, stock buybacks and
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executive compensation. where this loses credibility is you're saying i want to raise the taxes on the blue states by reducing the state and local income, which reduces budgets for schools, infrastructure. i'm going to raise the deficit, but the reason i'm willing to tolerate the reduction in the budget for schools and infrastructure, to increase the deficit is because there's going to be so much private capital flowing into the economy, it's going to create jobs, it's going to be invested in cap packs and business formation. however, that is not what the policy does. the policy instead enables the path of least resistance for the capital to flow into the banks, stock buybacks and executive compensation. if you really wanted to do something interesting, you would actually look at the marginal increase that's going to be available and look at the percentage of capital that gets
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distributed as opposed to that which gets invested into new business formation, cap x. >> hang on, mark. when ceos have been polled, he asked ceos to raise your hands if you are going to do anything than reinvest these wages and buy back dividends and no one raised their hand. no one he heard from is saying this is necessarily going to back into the economy. >> because it's missing the final piece, john, which is the incentive to invest the money. >> this tax plan also includes an incentive that allows companies to write off all their capital expenditures in the coming years. it penalizes executive compensation and abuses of that. there are many factors in this tax bill which aren't getting a lot of coverage, but encourage companies to put this into new
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equipment and raise wages. just the corporate reform is going to increase wages $4,000 in the coming years. so on top of the tax cuts, you're also getting increased wages. >> that remains to be seen. that will have to be proven. >> that's why it's so unpopular, john. people can buy the theory of private capital, but they want to know private capital will be driven into hiring. >> how this affects the president directly, the white house is continuing to make this claim. the president said during the campaign and fall i'm going to be a big loser. this is not going to help me. that's not the case, is it? >> no, it's people the ones who will benefit are those who have a lot of money. by all accounts, he has a lot of money. the problem here is that the economy is doing well already. companies already are sitting on a lot of cash. so the argument that we need to somehow do something for these companies so that they have cash doesn't really make sense.
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just to be clear, i don't have a problem with that. i actually don't are have a problem with lowering the corporate tax rate. i do have a problem with blowing up the deficit in order to help people who already have cash get more cash. it just doesn't make sense to me. again, the fact they mid the tax cuts permanent for the very wealthy people, but this looks like something that's been done to help rich people and put us in a bad position in terms of the deficit, which we saw with reagan. we know what happened. he left us with a massive deficit. >> we beat the soviet union, that's what happened. >> by tax cuts? >> there were tax cuts during the bush administration and the deficit and the debts went up. there were extraneous circumstances there, but that's
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what history has shown. matt lewis, you talked about politics and perception. i know you support the idea of tax cuts in general and much of what is in this bill. however, is there a perception problem baked into the cake right now that $900 for the middle class if they're lucky enough not to live in california, new york, or maryland might change for voters going forward? >> what's the old that mucher maxim, first win the argument, then you win the vote. republicans won the vote but not the argument with the american public. i do think once people start seeing personally they're going to get extra money back, if the theory supply side theory holds through and the economy is stimulated, then they'll win the argument. this is actually a great test f. republicans are wrong, it worked for reagan and kennedy, but if
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it doesn't work this time, they deserve to lose. but i think there's a shot. i'm worried about the deficit. i think kirsten is absolutely right about that. that's a legitimate concern. but this stuff about class warfare, i think that's overwrought and the media has helped spur that along. >> you would think the white house would say the president is going to save on taxes. guys, thanks so much. good discussion. i appreciate it. we will follow late into the night on the senate floor, we will stake with a member of the house intelligence committee with what he has is efforts to stymie the russia investigation. one key crew member was and wasn't and crucial safety equipment that could have been there, but wasn't. ses, but with my back pain i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve.
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fbi, and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. now add the president's eldest son and name to that list, donald trump jr. this evening this west palm beach, referring to the steel dossier and slamming what he thinks is a double standard. >> imagine if we rolled back the clock to 2008 and a conservative director of the fbi and high-up people in the fbi wrote an e-mail about an insurance policies, the dossier, in the unlikely event that barack obama was elected president. what do you think would happen? do you think the media would cover that? yeah. you would think it would be brush under the rug, it doesn't mean anything. there would be revolution in the streets. i'm glad this is coming out now because it is good. real people have to see this. my father talked about a rigged
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system throughout the campaign. people are like what are you talking about? but it is, and you're seeing it. there is and there are people at the highest levels of government that don't want to let america be america. >> people who don't want to let america be america. joining us, adam schiff. congressman, thank you for being with us. what's yours reaction? >> he apparently forgets the fact that in remaltime what happened is the fbi talked about an investigation into hillary clinton, even ten days or less before an election, but did not tell the country there was also an investigation going on of the trump campaign over a far more serious matter, that is, whether individuals in the trump campaign were agents of a foreign power. for the most consequential difference between how these investigations were handled, it
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cut very much in donald trump's favor, and that seems to be something donald trump jr. would rather ignore. >> he says there are people who don't want to let america be america, suggesting there's kind of conspiracy perhaps to undermine his father's administration. is there any conspiracy like that? >> no, but you have to realize this is, i guess, a trump family characteristic, and that is to view themselves as the victim of something, victim of a rigged system, victim of an unfair fbi, victim of unfair press coverage. this seems to be a genetic trait. but the reality is that i think our fbi and our department of justice have a lot of really dedicated public servants, whose work is being maligned right now.
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in the meantime, of course, they do enormous damage to our democracy and you understand mine public confidence in the administration of justice. >> trying to you understand mine robert mueller's investigation. there are questions you raised about whether the republicans are trying to undermine what's going on even in the house intelligence committee. you said you made progress, but you also say republican members opposed challenges. explain that. >> there are a number of steps republicans are taking which don't make sense from an investigative point of view, and their departure from how we operated in the past. an example is they scheduled key interviews out of state, including one tomorrow when we have another vote on the tax bill. and we have a vote potentially tomorrow to keep the government open, so why would they be scheduling interviews out of state if they simply didn't want us to be present during the interviews? these are witnesses we've been asking for months that they sat
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on. that's my fear, we saw on display the judiciary committee last week an effort to discredit mueller and the fbi and the justice department to shut down mueller. we're seeing in our committee, the intelligence committee an effort to bring the congressional investigation to a premature conclusion. >> is this something that either the chairman of the committee devin nunes have said to you they are trying to shut this down soon? >> they have been fairly vague. when i ask why are we scheduling witnesses three a day when it took months for you to schedule some of the witnesses we've asked for a long time ago? why don't we have these witnesses that you're scheduling out of state come before our committee after the holidays? why are we not scheduling any interviews for the new year when
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there are dozens of interviews to be scheduled? i can't get an answer, and that tells me there may be marching orders from the top. we've seen steve bannon, president, and others amp up the heat on congress to shut us down. the republican senators are acknowledged the president weighed in with them to get them to shut down the investigation. >> they're contacting like there's pressure from the white house. i want to play you something we heard from the former director of intelligence. at its core is a question about whether russia tried to influence the election, whether russia has undue influence on the trump campaign. this is what dni clapper said about phone calls between vladimir putin and president trump over the weekend.
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>> i think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer vladimir putin is. he knows how to handle an asset. and that's what he's doing with the president. >> do you think president trump is an asset to vladimir putin? he's treating him like some kind of intelligence asset? >> i think the president is allowing himself to be manipulated by putin. putin knows because the kremlin does a psychological profile, i'm sure, of world leaders, what the president's strengths and weaknesses are, and knows that flattery will get you everything with this president. and so in his year-end commends, he talks about how great the american economy is what why are people questioning the legitimacy of his election when of course the russians would
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never interfere in our affairs. the president of russia, putin understands how to push this president's buttons, how to get this president to do effectively his bidding and praise is the way to do it. so in that respect, it is a bit like the relationship between a case officer and asset. you need to know the motivations of your asset, what will get the asset to do the things you want, i wouldn't push that analogy too far, but the reality is i think putin using all of the tactics you would expect him to use. the only surprising thing is how well they seem to work with the president. >> adam schiff, we know you have an unexpected tax vote tomorrow morning, we'll let you get some sleep. speaking of buttons and pushing and presidential psychology, did president
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prior to confirmation is fake news. the unnamed sources don't exist. well "the washington post" reported the president was so angry with neil gorsuch after he privately criticized the punish's tax an judiciary that he considered withdrawing the nomination altogether. he was worried gorsuch would not be loyal. "new york times" white house contour maggie haberman joins me now. that's the issue, we know loyalty is of the utmost importance to this president. >> i've worked with two of these reports and i'm confident these sources exist. this is what he says, that people aren't actually real. on its own we knew at the time he was unhappy with what neil gorsuch had said and what leaked out about what he said. we knew the president was frustrated. this takes it a tick further but
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there's a largely issr issue of the president views relationships. everything is a one-way treat of loyalty to him. he expects people to pay to me sort of unending price if he gives them something. this is when where we he con inflates himself with the institutions he serves, making an appointment for a supreme court justice is something that they feel gratitude, but it's not something -- he was preserving the institution by saying what he said. we heard the word loyalty come up repeatedly in the campaign. he asked people about potential placements for james comey. will this better than loyal. that was the word.
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he named investigation as disloyal to him. but this is continuum. >> if jeff sessions is not loyal enough, condominium condominium obviously wasn't and got fired. but rex tillerson called him a mor r moron. i don't consider that to be an act of blind boilt yloyalty, ye guys are still zander we'll see in february. the relationship with tillerson has never been good. the relationship with gary cohen was never repaired. did gary cone get the job he wanted? he did not. these things have zmunuance and gradation. it was important to keep a continuum of top advisers in cabinet positions filled
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throughout the first year. you will see change. i think the president is aware he can't just get rid of everybody. he didn't pull back the nomination of neil gorsuch. he vented about it to somebody. he vents about all manner of things. asking people questions about whether he should have done something, sometimes it's venting, sometimes it's how he processes something. you almost never know exactly what he's thinking. >> that's why you get rumors about robert mueller and what not. these discussions may very well be happening. we are at a key point in this presidency right now. it's almost the end of 2015. he's going to get this tax bill through. he will sign his first major piece of legislation. and one could ask the question, is this a pivot point? is this a chance for the president to change how he behaves? >> we've had so many pivot points that we've gone in circles.
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he's not going to change how he behaves. let me rephrase that. i think it's very, very unlikely that he will change how he behaves. i cannot see this being what gets it done. if anything, he takes things that are perceived victories as confirmation that his approach worked. i don't see why he would change how he's doing things from this. we have to be clear about this. the main reason this bill got done, i realize there are a lot of victory laps being taken by various people at the white house. to be sure, the president should feel happy this is major legislation that got through, whether it's a problem for republicans down the road, i don't know. but republicans on capitol hill acted out of essentially fear and self-preservation. they needed to have something done so they could go to the midterms saying look what we did. >> becauone of the things we of see is a news conference. it's possible the president will answer questions from the press. this could be interesting this time.
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there's a whole a lot of russia to ask about and roy moore you could ask about and sexual harassment stuff to ask about here. i'm curious to see how he handles that. >> i think he will probably, if he does do it, he will handle it the way he handled lengthy news conferences. there was one he did early on where he took questions for almost an hour. he loved it. it felt to him like a venting session. it will depend on how much he's buying into the strategy his legal advisers gave him. >> we're taking a break. up next, new details in the derailment in washington state. today we now know how much the train was speeding when it hit that curve, but there's many safety questions that don't have answers. that's the latest, next.
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but within the next few things of that nature senate will vote and will pass this bill, which will be celebrated at the white house at some point tomorrow. both black boxes have been recovered from the deadly train derailment in washington state. three people were killed and more than 100 hurt when an amtrak went speeding off the rails. it was a first run with a of this route. we're learning where the crew was when the train derailed. kyung lah joins us now. the driver was not at the controls? >> he was in the passenger section of the train. we don't know what car. he was somewhere in the passenger section, not the cab. here's what the ntsb says. >> yes, there were two people in the cab. the engineer and a conductor who
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was getting experience and familiarizing himself with the territory. the actual conductor was in the passenger section at the time of the accident. >> reporter: it's hard to know what exactly all of this means. we are told by ntsb in that same news conference that the engineer is allowed to control the train. but we did also learn that the engineer, the crew, didn't hit the emergency brakes, john. the emergency brakes were automatically activated. we're a little more than 24 hours after this accident, still difficult to know what this means. >> there's also cameras that record inside and outside of the train. so what will they be looking for? >> reporter: specifically they're going to want to know what was happening in the cab at the controls, what was happening inside between the engineer and the extra conductor they just referred to. was there distraction going on? how did they not know this curve
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was coming? they were speeding at 80 miles per hour. those emergency brakes weren't activated, so did they not know it was zmomg why didn't she slow to 30 miles per hour? a lot of questions. >> kyung, i understand two of the three victims were named today. what can you tell us about them? >> reporter: while we talk about this technology, three lives were lost here. there were a lot of passengers aboard. jim ham ray was a rail enthusiast. he was aboard this maiden voyage. that second man is zack will hoyt, both train advocates. if there's anything awful about these particular men's deaths,
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he wanted to advance rail throughout all of our lives. they felt trains were really the way to move forward, john? >> our thoughts are with their families. kyung larks thank you so much. bill weir heads to the florida keys for the update of the reservoir from the record-breaking hurricane season. helping keep shoppers safe. this is a financial transaction secure from hacks and threats others can't see. this is a skyscraper whose elevators use iot data and ai to help thousands get to work safely and efficiently. this is not the cloud you know. this is the ibm cloud. the ibm cloud is the cloud for business. yours. ♪ ♪ when it comes to travel, i sweat the details. late checkout... ...down-alternative pillows... ...and of course, price. tripadvisor helps you book a... ...hotel without breaking a
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hours, pat out dozens of tornadoes, and took apart a town devoted to birds, art, and the sea. >> the aquarium doesn't exist anymore. the center for the arts doesn't exist anymore. >> reporter: one of these trucks holds 100 cubic yards of broken things the schools are 2/3 full and the mayor worries this town could actually die. >> we had over 1,300 businesses operating in the community as if last week we had 360 that reopened. >> reporter: that's your tax base too. >> it is. >> reporter: there's a big fema tent downtown, but the rockport relief camp -- >> how are you doing this morning? >> i'm good. >> reporter: -- is really just samantha's backyard. >> this is donated furniture and
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supplies. >> reporter: where she housed, fed, and helped thousands of families with private donations solicited on facebook. >> this is our diaper barn. >> reporter: that's the generosity of strangers. >> i want to make sure everyone understands. we have received no state, county, no government assistance at all. we got denied by fema three times. >> how do you feel about that? >> oh, it pisses me off. but three miles a way they just received a three bed, three bath home by fema. >> when i got this i was kind of shocked. >> reporter: you won the fema lottery. meanwhile back at the camp, a family of six shares an rv and a
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woman nine months pregnant shares a tent. if you could talk to the head of fema, what would you say? >> pull your head out of your ass. >> when you've lost everything you've worked for it's an incredibly tough situation. >> brock long knows something about frustration and baptism by fire, wind and water. since taking over femaane june more than 5 million people have registered for disaster aid more than katrina and sanda and wilma combine. >> you have to understand we don't have tens of thousands of manufactured homes and trailers stormed have and ready to go. we have to buy these things. >> reporter: one fema trailer costs one. >> anywhere between $10,000 to
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$25,000. and when we're done, i can't reuse it. meanwhile the florida keys are providing another lesson in how fema dollars are spent. >> in fact, key west is close to perfect. >> reporter: while they try to salvage the tourist season in key west, inside key west it's less than perfect. florida gave out emergency contracts two days after when demands for men and machinery was sky high. before the storm a contractor would have charged $3,200 to haul away a wrecked boat like this. or $1,000 for a refrigerator that should cost $100.
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meanwhile you can't pay your guys over. >> fema doesn't do debris. we coordinate the grant down to the governors, the local communities to help pay for those. i don't think fema should dictate those. >> reporter: here at snappers, they're partying. everybody's staying, right? but maybe the best recovery lesson comes from a foul-mouthed bar owner. >> we are not leaving until really the [ bleep ] hits the fan. >> reporter: peter went viral by mocking the storm with two s-bombs. thanks to decent insurance and devoted regulars who helped him cleanup, they were open within days. >> it was a very positive energy right after the hurricane. and everybody's helping each other out. and the government is not doing
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anything. and you should expect that the government stands up, and the government helps and only help and only don't be in our way. just do it. make it happen. >> so bill, fema gives these huge chunks of money to the states for cleanup, but then it's up to governors to decide which contractors get the bids. >> it really is. it's your tax dollars, but it's really up to the governor of these particular states or puerto rico to use the money wisely. governor greg abbot in texas getting high marks for being part of the texas rebuild texas project. it's more controversial in florida, as you saw by the cleanup there. but there's a ton of money needed. and congress now want to double the amount of money the trump administration asked for, more
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than $8 billion or so, and that will frankly just scratch the surface. >> thank you so much for reporting. "the new york times" reveals a once classified pentagon project researching reports of ufos, and they have pictures. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong.
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they once classified a pentagon project a site of ufo sightings have been revealed. it studied video and audio recorders and thrt viewed people who said they had close encounters. cnn's randy kaye joins us now with it latest on whether the truth really is out thereafter all. randy, what's going on with this secret program? >> this was a $22 million program, part of the defense budget that was designed to investigate these reports of unidentified flying objects or ufos. it's actually known as the advanced identification threat
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program. now, the pentagon kept this program a secret. it was run by a military intelligence official who told cnn recently they found compelling evidence, and i'm quoting him here, that we may not be alone, john. >> so besides the we may not be alone, have they found anything else significant? >> it seems so. one described as the way he described it a 40 foot long tic tac. that is just one of the many encounters the program has looked at. in the case of the 40 foot long tic tac two navy fighter pilots chaesed after it but it sped away. the pilot of one of those aircraft spoke to cnn about that earlier tonight. >> as we both looked outside the right side of our airplane we saw a disturbance in the water, so white water and a white
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object moving left right, north-south, up down, all around. about in an 8:00 position and the tic tac is about 2:00. i cut across the circle, as i got close to it it rapidly accelerated to the south and disappeared in less than two seconds. it had no wings, so you think okay it's a helicopter. this was extremely abrupt like a ping-pong ball bouncing off-the-wall. the ability to hover over water and start a vertical climb from basically 0 up to 2,000 feet and accelerate in less than two seconds and something i've never seen in my life. >> he's sure he saw something strange, but it's all so fascinating to think about, right, john? >> i'm not
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