could be the new normal, if you believe the climate scientists, this is what happens on a hotter planet. >> it's hard to imagine it would be for that stronger than that. meanwhile, we're following a lot of news this morning, so let's get to it. >> you see the president roll out an infrastructure plan in january. >> yes, i'll work with him if he'll work with us. >> and any work on health care will have to be bipartisan. >> we still have the whole obamacare. >> the president tries to discredit an fbi investigation. >> i would like to see the directors of those agencies purge it. >> these tweets are really a distraction. >> we share the same kind of mind-set. >> president obama sitting down with a rare interview with prince harry. >> one of the dangers of the enter net is people can have

entirely different reactions. this is "new day". >> good morning, everyone. welcome. chris is off, bill weir joins me. wohl play more of that interview for everybody. great to have you. >> good to be here. >> president trump will kick off the new year with a big push on infrastructure. he's expected to hit the road toe sell the plan, but will democrats help him deliver on it? >> president trump says republicans and ds will come together on a deal after falsely claiming good enthat obamacare is effectively revealed. and president obama talks to prince harry about politics and life after at the present time --. good morning f. >> good morning, bill. come january, they're moving on to infrastructure. right after the tax bill, the

white house wants to do a really big infrastructure package they're hoping democrats will get on board where. they're planning to roll it out in mid january, making it a big part of the president's state of the union address towards congress near the end of the month, but the plan will be about $200 billion of federal spending over the course of ten years. though the president promised about $1 trillion on the campaign trail, this $200 billion investment the white house says will be a floor. democrats, on the other hand, even though they are overall supportive, say the $200 billion is simply not enough. the president also talking about bipartisanship when it comes to health care, as you mentioned sending out that tweet earlier this week, talking about the possibility that democrats might come to the table with republicans on an overall health care plan, however there's really no evidence now that any such effort is under way by this

administration, though republicans do have to deal with shoring up some of these exchanges in january, a bipartisan everr effort. >> bill and alyson, thank you very much. it sounds like the president will be focused on infrastructure, he thinking that's a winning agenda item. he's scaled down his ambitious financial plan from 1 trillion to now $200 billion over ten years. what do you think the chances are for that? >> well, infrastructure is one of those things like mohr and apple pie that everyone wands, we at desperately need, but it will come down to several factors. to begin without even talking

about the democrats, there's a serious rift right notice within the republican party that's long-standing over whether you go for the donald trump expensive budget-busting populism, and you build a wall, and you do tax cuts and you never touch entitlement spending, and you go on to fund these roads and bridges and transportation projects, or you actually pay down the debt. so there's a real problem moving fiscal conservatives after this tax cut that was deficit funded on to another spending project. the next step is instead of a private/public patch, the principles the administration will release have moved toward a state-focused goal, where locals will have to pitch they have the money for the project, and then they will get a part of that $200 billion up. when you get to the democrats,

they'll be saying we'll be with you after the fund the children's health program, legalize the d.r.e.a.m.ers, and then we'll talk. if you look at the next couple weeks up to the state of the union, the president wants to be focused on infrastructure, and his principals he'll be sending to the hill, and there would be other urgent deadline matters that will consume all the time. so the question of when democrats come on board this negotiation is something we'll hear about probably later or spring. >> let's pivot over to the russia investigation and continue for that jabs at the fbi. this is a new line, a new talking point we heard yesterday from defenders of the president, who think that the fbi mueller investigation is tainted somehow. this is from francis rooney, a republican from florida. take a listen. >> i'm very concerned that the

doj and fbi, whether you call it deep state or what, are off the rails. i don't want to discredit them. i would like toes the directors purge the agencies. we have a lot of great lawyers and people here, those are the people i want the american people to see, not these people who are kind of a deep state. >> david, certainly there are tens of thousands of federal workers who wake up every morning filled with contempt of the president, but they go to work and try to do their job. a purge of the fbi, is this something you think could catch fire? >> find me a person that works in washington, without a political opinion about how the federal government is run. you know, i'll give you a prize. it's impossible to have a government made up of people who have no opinion. the question is whether they're doing their job.

the what we've seen with this term "deep state" it comes far from the right, and if the president on the campaign trail casting aspersions on the intelligence community and law enforcement, and has now been adopted by many republicans on capitol hill to cygsignify this entrenched bureaucracy that is doing things in secret, and maybe illegal to thwart this president in a way that hasn't been done before. the danger there is you end up alienate i alienating people that you need to keep the country safe and that the president depends on for intelligence and information, that if you can step back from that, then what you have are in some ways something that's understandable, which is that the president and his allies trying to discredit the special counsel investigation. that's not out of bounds necessarily and not unusual. i think what has made this a bit different is the fact that they

have elevated and tried to create this sort of conspiratorial antigovernment cabal that's thwarted -- that could far outlast this president and infect the country for years to country. that's what is dangry. >> a.b., was it surprising after the victory that he spent the better part of christmas weekend talking about, you know, sort of undermining the fbi, calling them tainted, talking about the dossier. he is fixated on this in a way that actually eclipses his successes. he could have been touting his win all weekend, but he veered back to say, you know, the dossier is bog gus, clinton campaign, dnc funded dossier, the fbi is tainted. this is one of his sort of

favorite things to talk about, which seems counterproductive. >> well, this is -- this is a pattern with this president, one of the best nights of the entire year for him was february 28th, the joint address to congress. a couple days later he started tweeting about obama wiretapping him at trump tower. he tends in moments of some kind of success and unity to throw a big ball of oil into the fire and start a new controversy. you look back over the year and there's a lot to remember. it's easy to forget, because we've been so inundated by them, but this is a pattern that continues. he is fixated on this investigation, no matter what. if it's a busy days in the white house or not busy day on one of hess golf resort properties, he is always fixated on this and wants to work heart to discredit it as a witch-hunt. he has been doing that all year. it's interesting, as you said,

not only could he be touting the tax reform benefits, but he did tweet about health care, and he could be talking about how he wants to unify the country around something important, but usually the tweets are to air his grief usageses. >> that will make 2018 very difficult given what's on their to-do list with the pressure cooker of an election year and a president battling the mueller investigation, it's going to make it that much harder for him to sell the tax bill, and in order to curry support for a lot of these other measures. it doesn't get easier when he's distracting from his own positive message that is available to him, especially coming out of the tax cut victory. >> david drugger, a.b. stoddard,

temperature -- david drug ker, a.b. stole ddard, thank you ver much. there was a big warn from president obama about social media. that was the top line that came out. though president trump wasn't named in this, so have a listen what president obama had to say about social media. >> the question i think really has to do with how do we harness this technology in a way that allows a multiplicity of voices, a lows a diversity of views, but doesn't lead to a balkanization of our society, but rather continues to promote weighing of finding common ground. i'm not sure government can legislate that, but what i do believe is all of us in leadership have to find ways in which we can re-create a common indication on the internet.

one of the dangers of the internet is people can have entirely different realities. they can be just cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases. >> that was obviously the serious stuff. the two guys also had some fun with a lightning round. tell us about that. >> they had so much fun throughout the interview. they're really good friends. the chemistry is amazing. yeah, president obama said there were some things he does -- he misses the work and misses the motorcade in traffic. he does not miss early starts and having to get straight into the office, but the lightning round was the best bit. they saved it for. >> harry or william? >> william right now. >> titanic or body guard? >> titanic. >> suits or the good wife? >> suits obviously. >> great answer. cigarettes or gum? >> gum now, baby. >> white house or buckingham

palace? >> white house just because buckingham palace looks like it would take a long time to mow. >> fair enough. >> a lot of upkeep. >> queen or the queen? >> the queen. >> i wish every interview was like that? they're such good friends. they have developed a real friendship over the years. lots of people are asking whether or not obama will be invited to the wedding. finally someone got to ask that to prince harry once they rolled out this interview. take us into that. >> well enough to invite him to your wedding? >> i don't know about that. that's -- we haven't put out the invites or the guest list together yet, so who knows. i would not be surprised. >> and still don't have an answer on that. >> i wish there would be a lightning round with every bur view. >> but it's want to note that

president trump has had any interaction with the royals. a lot of debate about whether to invite president trump. >> he hasn't met prince harry, that we know of, right? >> that we know of, right. and obviously the wedding is happening in may, so the way it looks would be that prince harry won't be seeing president trump before the wedding unless something happening in his agenda. coming up here, can republicans strike a deal on infrastructure in the new year? we'll ask a republican congressman, coming up next.

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[burke] abstract accident. seen ♪ video-it. covered it.c we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ after the tax cut, president trump is looking for his next big legislative victory, set to unveil an infrastructure proposal next month we have learned. will there have any bipartisan report? let's discuss with mark walker from north carolina, chair of the republican study committee, good to see you, sir. merry christmas, belatedly. >> thank you, bill. same to you thanks for letting my be here today. >> our pleasure. let me get your take on the next big item to tackle. over the campaign her was promising a trillion dollar spending all of that in the first 100 days, this one more modest, $200 million, will focus

this on the state of the union address, and the rest of the money public partnerships. i'm sure you would like to see this sign this project brought to you by president trump, about you how do you pay for it? >> that's the $200 million case or in the former case a billion dollar questions. we have 146 members, the largest caucus in congress, and these are valid concerns. we could be criticizing the obama administration for doubling our debt, yet at the same time continue to pass blank checks. infrastructure is a problem. what we have done over the last several years is we keep driving the majority of the revenue and money toward mandatory spending, instead of taking care of our discretionary spending. we have to have a change of culture to get this on the right

track. >> so how much would you say -- put a number out there. what would you like to start with as a floor of negotiations for infrastructure? >> i think the number is in the ballpark. the bigger question is what are the pay-fors? what kind of reforms do we need to be able to pay for something that doesn't increase additional tax burden or increases the deficit or over the long term the national debt. this is what reps go and promise to washington, we'll be responsible with the people's money, the taxpayers dollars, and i think we have to be consistent. under a republican administration p. >> interesting. what about a full repeal of obrammacare. the president is hunting that losing the mandate really does that, but that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. is there app. tight for a full repeal? >> i think there is, bill, especially on the house side.

there are several plans floating about. the big question is repealing the individual mandate did not repeal obamacare. it did relieve the pressure for people in the individual market that for the first time in the federal legislative books was forced to buy a product from a private industry, but we also have an employer mandate component. we have the cost-sharing reduction payments. the contract srs will be a factor. there's some debate between republicans even on the house and certainly mitch mcconnell as far as the expeditious manner on while we talk it up, but that's a promise we have continued to make. >> mitch mcconnell said it's time to move on from repealing the law. incredible sign-up numbers given the lack of push from the -- nearly 9 million people going up there. should obamacare be repealed in our latest cnn poll, 64% say no,

but you want to still go after it? >> i believe we have to continue to attack specific clauses, for example, the employer mandate. there's a small leadership here in north carolina, they have 47 employees, they know that once these cross that 50 employees threshold it's a whole different dynamic. they would like for us to repeal these elements, and i believe it's a promise we've made. we've had a great deal, if you will, as far as promises kept, giving a pay raise to military defense, but there's more to do. let's talk about midterm elections coming up in the new year. on the other side of the aisle, a lot of folks chomping at the bit. listen to bernie sanders. >> i think what you are seeing is a referendum on donald trump. what we're seeing in alabama, what we're seeing in virginia, new jersey, and in states all

across this country, are large voter turnouts with people standing up, fighting back, demanding we have a government that relate all of us, not just the 1%. if i were the republicans, i would worry very much about 2018. it's not just democrats, but also republicans like jeff flake and others who say that your party is just tearing apart at the seams. houses would you characterize the mental state of the gop going into an election year like there? >> bill, that's a great and very fair question. i don't think the bulk of republicans are represented by senator jeff flake. however, as a former pastor, i don't shy away from the fact in believing that tone matters. i have the great privilege of representing the largist historical black college in the college, north carolina, which just won their national championship, i might add. sedrick richmond, the chairman of the congressional black caucus and i are partnering

together to write an op-ed on criminal justice reform and hopefully legislation that comes behind that. we have to be consistent. our tone in impacting different cultures and communities has to be one of heartfelt, not of judgment. i believe that's where republicans have to continue to move forward. historically you are correct, an average of 32 seats and that's when the president pop lair reaches 50 percent, at least, only three assignments since 1900s have the majority stayed in place. is that something we're concerned with? yes. hopefully continue to do the right thing with the right heart ultimately will matter. >> you're a southern baptist minister. i was raised in that world. it always fascinates me so many -- how do you reconcile your faith with this president politically? >> i will tell you this. after eight years of the obama

administration, there was legitimate direct lines of people who were social conservatives, things like the former president saying god bless planned parenthood. those kind of things round up the evangelical bangs to electoral turnout. that doesn't give anybody a pass, whether it's president trump or anyone else. that is something that i hope that we'll continue to see growth there when it comes to dealing with people, not just in our base. you know, probably shouldn't say this on cnn or even out loud, but i will tell you this. the steve bannons of the world, that kind of language and rhetoric, that's now who we are, but reps have to be willing to call out when certain language is used with undertones to our friends and neighbors of all the communities we serve. we have to have the bolds in to say that's not right. that's not the way we would share what it is we believe. ultimately when you do that,

when you have the right heart, i think people appreciate that. that's beyond. one of the things 'em very proud of is the democrat support, especially for the minority communities right here in greensboro, north carolina. i cherish that. i hope that's in contribution to the right tone, right heart and right spirit, even when there's policies we disgray on. >> representative, thank you for your thoughts this morning. have a great wednesday. >> thanks, bill. thanks for the opportunity. thank you. bill, president trump a spent a lot of time calling out president obama for golfing on the job. that has not stopped mr. trump from golfing on the job. a lot. how does he explain the flip-flop? that's next. plus, netflix for the whole family. on us. so, they get their shows... let's go, girl! you're gonna love this bit! and you get yours. watch however you want. on your phone, tablet, or tv. for just forty bucks per line. with no extra charges.

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on the campaign trail, president trump made former president obama's golf game a recurring theme at his rallies. >> obama -- it was reported today played 250 rounds of golf. >> everything is executive off. he doesn't have enough time, because he's playing so much golf. >> he ought to get off the golf corn. >> i'm not going to have time to

play golf. >> i love golf, but i don't have time. >> if i were in the white house, i don't think i would ever see turn berry or court real. >> if i win this, i'm not going to be playing much golf. >> oopsie-daisy, times have changed according to our count from witnesses, wednesday marks the 86th day of golf scott, why doesn't the president like spending time at the without? >> well, good question. if i were the president, i would be at the white house all the time. it's a magical place. >> that's what you said, as you recall, he said almost the same words. >> most presidents go on

vacation. whether that is at the ranch in crawford if you're george w. bush, or at camp david or in hawaii if you're barack obama. i think he spent 11% or 12% in his day, the presidents do get out of the office, but you take it with you. that's the reality. this is one of those jobs that following you. the apparatus follows you, you have decisions to make, phone calls to take. whether he's on the golf course or sitting in the office, he never truly escapes it. i totally agree. the question is, why did president trump fixate on it with president obama so much. does that not ring of some hi pockriesy to you, scott? >> it does, actually. a lot of things said in campaigns sound great at the time, once you get into a particular office, they don't sound so great in retrospect.

i'm sure we could pick apart a lot of statements that both parties have made. this is one that's easily picked on. the reality is what is said in the campaign, by frankly someone who didn't have a lot of experience in government -- >> doesn't count anymore? >> probably now he wishes perhaps he hadn't said it. >> ana, how do you see it? >> i think the -- that being said -- or is he? >> the problem here is -- is that bill weir happening? i hear he's coming south for the new year's. bill, if i see you with a golf club, i'm going to take a picture. >> who can blame him. look at this weather, guys. >> i was tired of big angry for five hours at a time, so i quit golf. please go on. >> this reeks of hypocrisy.

there's practically a tweet at some criticism that he wages daily. yesterday it was kwanzaa. he used to criticize obama for marking kwanzaa. yesterday he was doing it. good, he should, but on the golf part, i think there's several things. first the ethical implication, then the policy implication, and then the optics. it's not only that he's playing golf, but at his own private golf course, private club. >> hold on, ana. we do have the numbers here. he hayes spent 86 days playing golf, and 111 days spent at his own trump properties. so what's the problem? >> i tell you what the problem is, first of all, the cost to taxpayers going into his pocket. second of all he's hiking up the prices at places like

mar-a-lago, because people get to rub elbows with the president. he's turning it into a marketing toole for a his own profit. >> okay. hold on, let me bring in -- does that make you uncomfortable, scott? >> look, i think of all the things going on in this world, it's one of those issues that the most ardent trump haters likes to bring up, but i think the average person doesn't fixate on it. we elected a president knowing he was in the luxury hotel business. what did we expect? the man loves hotels and loves golf. i'm not surprised he's staying at his own holtz. >> and you're okay with him profiting from being president. you don't think people care about the naked hypocrisy, and now that he's golfing, he's on tap to golf way more than president obama ever did. president obama, you talked about his vacations.

president obama by cbs's count with 328 days outside the white house, as we saw, president trump has already will 111 days in his firstee, he's going to outpace the obama eight years if he keeps it up at this space in the space of at least three years. the point is, so the naked hypocrisy doesn't bother you and the president profiting on the office of the president doesn't bother you? >> i didn't say it didn't bother me. i certainly don't -- when i hear people say things in campaigns that i know could come back to haunt them, it does make my cringe. on the profiting issue, i don't know that he's profiting. he has said he's divested from his business is and taken steps to separate himself from the businesses. he was not going to stay at those. i think this was known before he -- >> he's not divesting from his

businesses. the sons are controlling the empire. >> of course he's note divesting from his businesses. you know, he's still very much engaged in it. it's part of his family. he is also profiting from the tax cut, even though he's not showing us his tax returns. we all know that. so you either take it or you don't, but it's very hard to argue he is not profiting from this in one way or another, and he is constantly marketing his brand. we saw it even earlier in the year when we saw government agencies do it on their own web sites. there's also the policy implications. basically playing golf takes, how much time you spend playing golf. seven hours a day that he's not working, which, by the way, for me is just fine. i would rather he be on the golf course than in the oval office,

and ending dakka and giving himself a tax cut. so as far as i'm concerned, you know, put a bumper sticker on the beast that said i would rather by golfing and stay there as long as can. >> we've come full circle. scott jennings, ana, thank you both. >> let him golf. >> bill, you're enjoying this. >> that could be the reelection slogan. i would rather play 36 holes a game. a virginia house seat is still in limbo after today's drawing to determine the winner. how will that tie be broken? we'll be back.

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the airlines tell cnn during the flight the cabin crew became aware that one of the passengers boarded the incorrect flight and notify the pilot. as part of the security procedure, they say the pile in command decided to return to the originating airport where the passenger was disembarked. an aviation source tells me this was an administrative mix-up that's being is it explained, but it's unclear what the mix-up up. though they're not saying it's a security breach, it does raise a question how does a person that didn't belong on the flight get on? we all know the boarding passes are scanned at the gate. we know that the airline does have a code share with united airlines. there was another code share flight that was leading at the very same time from l.a.x.

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about the deep state and flaws within the fbi. the president, as we know, that's his favorite information stream. how much of this do you think is this feedback loop? >> well, look he they do set the white house communications agenda. it's an effective way to outsource, so i wouldn't feel so bad about the research. look, the president has a hard time enjoying his successes. we have seen that since he's become president. periodically he's had good moment. a.b. earlier in the show was talking about the joint session of congress. it was one of the best moments he had. there were signs there he might be able to appeal beyond his base. three days later he was tweeting about president obama wiretapping him. we've seen this ebb and flow every couple weeks. the tax bill, look whatever

people think about the policy, and there was a debate, was a political victory, and showed some growth as a lawmaker, somebody who understood you didn't want to beat up members of your own party, didn't want to down talk your own bill as it was being negotiated. he's able to sign something that's eluded capitol hill, eluded the federal government for three decades, and a couple days later, he's in mar-a-lago, back in familiar territory, tweeting about everything else. i think that is just the kind of person he is, the kind of later he is the he obviously finds value in it. i guess we'll find out in 2018 if he's right. >> i'm not sure if he finds value in it, but after these victories, why did he spend a christmas weekend tweeting for the most part about the russia investigation, something that he dismisses as a hoax? so he claims he doesn't believe

it, yet he's fixated on it. that ends up driving the news cycle, then it becomes this vicious cycle. i'm not sure that actually works for him. >> i'm not sure it works for him, either. i think this is how the president operates. i can't get inside his head. i'm not sure if he does this -- why he does this, but it seems that the president is always more comfortable going on offense against perceived slights, and against people he perceives are out to get him. we could conclude that he feels always being on offense is better, baud left alone, things like the russia investigation will cause him political problems. i'm more conventional in my thinking and i'll defend that all day long. if you're president trump, you've got this tax reform bill to promote, infrastructure ideas, health care ideas, you talk about that, because you're going to hold your base in any

event and people not inclined to like you or not necessarily inclined to vote for your party may look at your ideas and say, hey, that's not so bad. we have seen if you remove president trump from the equation, a lot of the pieces from hi agenda have a lot of support in a sense -- voters really liked him, but often they didn't like pieces of his agenda but the president does things only one way. he's 71, he's not going to change. presidents thing what they do works, because they won. until he experiences a major political defeat, hi probably will go with the assumption that his tweeting and aggressiveness is a winner. >> yeah. you can't teach an old dog -- no pejorative use of the term. it's just a saying. >> david drucker, thank you so

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john berman has a well-deserved morning off. looking ahead to 2018, aides say that will mean a major push on infrastructure. the administration is set to unveil the details of the proposal in just a few weeks. it's already facing some major potential roadblocks, though, namely critical bipartisan support. with months to go before a crucial election, the president needs to convince democrats to get behind him on this one. good morning, abby. it looks lovely there. i hope you're getting nice time, you know, between television hits to enjoy the weather. look. infrastructure is such a bipartisan issue. does the white house think they will get democrats behind them on this one? you see. >> reporter: good morning, poppy. yeah, the white house does believe this will be the vehicle for that elusive bipartisanship in washington. the president is set in a couple weeks to unveil a b