. th on today's show america's role in the world. the question many are asking is simple. is america's place in the borwo better or worse today? we'll have a con vversation abo it. >> then the man who hosted the apprentice says he wants to create 5 million apprentice trips in five years. i think it's a great idea and

there is a secret on how to make it work. i'll let you in on it. also, putin wants to make russia great again. whose footsteps is he following in? finally, thousand write clearly. it is not as easy as you think. he was voted the greatest newspaper of all times, everian. >> the bad words are not swear words, it's decent ifr words. >> he gave a remarkably thoughtful and wide ranging speech. it starts for understanding how sharply and quickly the world is changing. he described it as a most

important changes effecting our western world as the world as a whole by which he meant the abdoe case of leadership. he noted the current withdraw under trufr from its role as reliable gar ran to of western influenced armed races and armed conflicts is increasing. the american retreat is coming at a particularly dangerous moment in his view. the international order is now under its deepest and most sustained pressure ins the inception. he observed tried and tested principalsov principalsover international relations. they are being called into

question rather by some and more shamelessly by others. he pointed to the activism of rising powers. for europe the united states has ceased to see europe as a special place. in 1947 secretary of state george marshal laid out his visit calling for the rehabilitation of europe, a vast responsibili responsibility. as he pointed out since that speech europe has been an american project in the united states clearly understood interests. the current u.s. administration perceives in a distant way some times even at the very least economic opponents. he voted that europe failed to

define interests and had no real foreign topolicy. he urged europe to take its destiny into its own hands. it mirrors those by merkle. she thapged the united states for its seven decades long stewardship and strongly implied that under the trump administration administration had reached its end.

the process has been well underway but has been dramatically accelerated for the foolish and self-defeating decision to resign as the wofldwofl world's leader. it is sad. let's get started. i have a great group for the

conversation. zannie joins us from london. here in new york giddeon rose and a distinguished fellow at the hudson institute. you tried to make sense of donald trump's foreign policy. so i thought it was the most articulate account. so lay it out. >> well, you know, i think in some ways american foreign policy has been to build this increasing complexity weight and density. we never really as a country after 1990 had the same kind we had in 1945 to 1947.

thece sense was it was the end history. we could do a lot of things as we cut defense budgets and it wouldn't be a problem. over time it's become more of a problem. the foreign policy is harder to explain. there has been a withdraw of public concept from this large global foreign policy. we say to the exat the present time -- extent it would be recognizing that gap. woe a we are seeing an effort to rebuild that can be defended to the american people and have some kind of support. >> so is that fair?

it was global urnderreach. >> one could make that case for the administration for certain aspect of the foreign policy in terms of what they are doing. in practice is idea that it has anything reacceptabsembling a f guidance. it's like saying roy moore is concerned with youth problems. yes. they are pulling back but the idea that there is a coherent strategy, anything other than american foreign policy is fancif fanciful. >> do you think from outside in, had the project become too kind of vast, ambitious or was it part of keeping the open world

economy going? >> well, i think the truth to both of those viewpoints, i think it's being for the last 17 years essential part of the open world order. i also think it is time and was time, trump or no trump in the aftermath of some of the overambitious past few years and in the light of the rise of china it was a time to show how you fashion that to the 21st century. i don't think have many people in the administration are having serious conversations of that sort. president trump has an extremely transactional approach and a view of international relations. they are deals where i win you lose. that ought to be happening. it's not. so from the rest of the world's perspective it is though the u.s. has essentially checked

out. it checked out at a time when china is increasingly exerting its role. so i think we have a shift that will go yopd the trump add minu administration. it is one where, you know, the big guiding of that is now absent. >> i think you characterized the american foreign policy exactly right, but it did get more ambitious and more resource starved. suspect that partly because the whole world kind of became american is this as a result you did have many more allies, many more countries wanting to share

in this process. the united states no longer had to battle. it kind of set the rules of road a little bit. >> again, i'm somebody. i think all three of us are probably in the group that think that the last 70 years, while om things went better than others the united states was trying to do the right thing and the best thing urnder the circumstance. the question is how to ajedjust and go forward rather than go find another planet that we enjoy more. so far so good, but i do think had we been looking more carefully in the 1990s while ne neither was prepared to actively challenge both of them concluded

that they with respeeren't goin the party but that it because threat to their domestic order and security. what we saw is kind of a gradual move on those countries picking up what they could to assert more independence and more out it's right opposition. >> isn't it fair to say what a central point is that the public isn't buying in. zb >> it is correct to say that the forces of globalization is created a society that produced a lot of losers as well as winners. they were not as aat the present

time -- as attentive. you have an outpouring. it is because people are fighting. they don't want peace. they want equal rights and justice. there's a sense that the last generation has been unjust the way it has played out. the answer to that is not to take even more from the poor and then stiff the globalization prodesz. the answer is to reform international order not the way -- not walk away the way the americans are trying to do. >> weaphen we kcome back, what should we be looking out for around the globe? i ask my esteemed panelists when we come back.

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you're looking at? >> let me give you three. the first is that i think we are going to see a growing tech lash, a growing backlash against the big tech companies. we saw concern about whether facebook and other social medias, concern about googles power. i think momentum will build in 2018. secondly, i think will will be increasing concern about china's ambition. china's swagger was pretty clear about that. china wants its role center stage. the new president of france, i think he is watching very closely. he is someone who could succeed in forging a new kind of progressive internationalism that might be the kind of global order that would be sustainable

and politically popular. i'm not sure he succeeds but it is some one i will be watching. >> you will be one of the great interpreters. you can talk about whatever you want. throw in what it will be. will it be rising further? >> populism is much better at ch channelling decent. i think a frustrated populism will be with us for a while. i think there is one big trend that we'll see unfolding and that is sort of massive geo-political shift with the change in energy markets, the fact that russia, iran aptnd otr

countries faced loss in revenue -- >> even with oil at -- >> that is compared to 100 and 150 and with no sort of rising price line to peak oil demand. >> right. >> it is difficult now. it is clear too when they succeed in disciplining members it simply transfers revenue to the industry and so on. so this is different. it also means long-term lower energy prices. i think one reason they have stabilized in the last year has been that the energy situation has been quiet and favorable. we are undoing the 1970s, the enormous shift of power to the gulf, the countries, the immense boom towns, i think we'll see a

reversal. it is good for china, good for japan, good for the european union. bad for russia, bad for the gulf states. >> and bad for venezuela? >> very bad for venezuela. so this is one of these things that comes from outside of politics but it will change the international environment in all kinds of subtle and some times quite dramatic ways. >> i will agree with what they just said but you have to come back to trump. in the midst of this where china is doing what he just said and preesh yatdiappreciating what w said going heavily into renewables, at that time trump is putting the state out, trying to boost domestic fossil fuel

and essentially the trends of history that should benefit the united states. the world is largely the product of u.s. engagement and strategy for a world that's ever knitted together. the challenge is what point will the trump administration ever reengage. after all of the posturing back and forth you could actually have a situation in which you are right for some deal. if you managed not to criticize but legalized the nuclear programs, a really good deal could be there. it is not something this administration is doing. >> since i have you and you have

almost a unique per specific ifr, what do you think about this whole issue of sexual harassment? is it a trend that you think will catch on? what do you think of it? >> it is not only an american phenomenon that's been lots and lots of discussion and lots of cases here in the u.k. and in france and in many other countries i hope it is a cultural moment we will lefrp and have a new equalibrium after it. i think they are in some sense painful. they demand a lot of soul searching. i really hope that perm neanent

change comes from this. i'm amazed and impressed and kindover in awe of how many people have come forward. for me it's something remarkable to watch. i hope it translates into something else much broader. >> thank you all. a fascinating panel. next on gps i have always said when donald trump has a good idea i will tell you about it. he has one and i'll tell you about it next. easy booger man. take mucinex dm. it'll take care of your cough. fine! i'll text you in 4 hours when your cough returns. one pill lasts 12 hours, so... looks like i'm good all night. ah! david, please, listen. still not coughing. not fair you guys! waffles are my favorite! ah! why take 4-hour cough medicine? just one mucinex lasts 12 hours.

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>> let's do that. let's go for that 5 million, okay? very good. >> later at a joipt press conference he said this. >> we just coffin collumpleted discussion for vocational training, very important words. germany has done an important job training employees and future employees and employing the manufacturing and industrial work force. >> the former star of the apprentice had every reason to express his admiration for the real life apprenticeship program. at least 54% have pro seed a job certification through the program. nearly 1 ppt 4 million apprentices were in the program. it helps explain why germany has the lowest youth unemployment

rate in the european union. by comparison in u.s. it was 10 ppt 4%, 13 in france and 24% in spain. donald trump would like to replicate it here in the u.s. the german program is well executed. that's half the equation. it is also very well funded. the german government spent about 3 ppt 5 billion on the apprenticeship program with private industry kicking in another 9 ppt $5 billion approximately. the u.s. congress provided $95 million on apprenticeships, that's it. remember, america has almost four times the population of germany.

germa germany's programs have more than ten times as many enrolees than the u.s. according to a study americans who go through app apprenticeship program earn $240,000 over the span of their careers than those who don't go through such a program. on june 15th trump issued a program called expanding apprenticeship in america. it would bring up funds to $200 million compared to 3.5 billion in germany. we talk a lot about inequality in america. this is a relatively inexpensive way to start the bridge the gap between rich and poor. we'll be watching to see if you stay you true to your word and

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tensions are arguably at the highest point since the cold war. the stress between these two powerful nations goes back further than the cold war. let me ask my next guest who is a historian and novelist who has written extensively about russia. the screen writes have been snatched up by none other than angelina jolie. welcome. >> thank you.

>> let me ask you first about putin. we are all fascinated by him. when you look at him with all of this knowledge of russian history, does he seem to you like just another czar? >> yes. there are things about him. he is a master of a modern figure. he is also a successor of the soviet state but the third strand to him is definitely czarist. he has a majesty of the russian mother land and russian empire. much that he is doing is from the romanoff play book. he is fascinated by the division between what he regards as great czars like peter the great and

gad czars like nicholas ii. >> when struck by the absolute brutality, when the father kills the son in front of spectators, that kind of brutality and almost unimaginable barberism is part of history and do you think it informs the president in any way? >> you are right. the story is a story about how family and individuals are destroyed by power. pee peter the great tortured his own son to death. alexander i was downstairs while his father had his head stomped on and strangled. it is not a family as we know it. it does inform the presented too. i wrote in to explain why russia

and put itin was about russia. when you look at how putin runs russia you see there's a tiny group of people competing for the ateptention of one man and tiny group of people becoming vastly wealthy. >> it's a court. >> it's definitely a court. russians know that the key to power just does r as it was, li barber of emperor of paul is access to the body in an autocra autocracy. everything is about access to the body or access to the

person. >> we talked about the hostility between the united states and soe sovi soviet union. what explains donald trump? do you have any idea why trump is remarkly benign? >> i think it is an interesting phenomenon. the political side of it is donald trump wants to be the first american czar. he wants to be the american romanoff. he rules by decree. he promotes his family to positions of power. they are the only people he really trusts. in this way he is the first american czar. the other part of it has to be psychological. he looks at putin and he sees a

man who has control of vie leol, who can order interventions a it the click of a happened. for that it is a slightly boyish crush on the swaggers god father. i think that's something that e derives from donald trump's personal psychology. >> do you think modern russia is putin's russia? >> yeah. i think he will be the dominant figure of the 21st century. he has been incredibly successful. first of all concentrating more power in his hands. he has done that systematically.

but it is where he has been successful. russia has an economy the size of spain. you mentioned starlin. it is who all russians measure themselves. they put themselves aside and look at the successes and the successes were vast as well. the cost was unacceptable. he left with a bigger empire that the czars could have imagined. he is the ones they measured against. the founding myth is the fall of berlin. so this is a sort of company that president putin is comparing himself with, the company he wants to keep. >> a tough man for donald trump

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harold evans was voted the greatest newspaper editor in all of history. he has a career in which he is headed to the new york daily news in addition to new york news, the atlantic and random house. he has where i happritten a new has life lessons and antic dotes. it is called do i make myself clear, why writing well matters. tell me why you felt moved to write this book. do you feel you are con frofron

lots of bad writing? >> yes. i don't expect everyone to write like clarharles dickens. i'm not even worried if you use the wrong wordoccasionally. in business and politics and insurance in particular i see deception. >> you have an exampleov of dond trump? >> yes. the most important sig decision. it is being brought and wants to overturn and likely to othvertu the obama policy. >> they changed it to extreme weather. they have all different names so

that it fits the bill. if you look at our energy costs and all of the things we are doing to solve a problem that i don't think in any major fashion exists. obama thinks it's the number one problem of the world today and i think it is very low on the list. so i am not a believer and i will -- unless somebody can prove something to me i believe there's weather and change and i believe it goes up and it goes down and it goes up again and it changes depending on years and centuries. i think we have much bigger problems. >> what's wrob wing with it? >> he just thinks it's weather. everybody who studied it for five minutes knows it's not weather. it's what's happening

meteorologically. now, when he wants to be clear he can be consistently clear and uses good, strong words. we have to stop immigration. we have to stop it. we have to stop immigration. we have to build a wall. a wall. israel has a wall.

what the climate change paragraph suggests is that when he wants to be deceptive. when he's confusing. when he wants to ob fiscate it turns into a sentence with lots of subordinate clauses and fragments and dangling. >> 'tis pells. >> he is not to be underrated. what you suggest with the massive population, they are not likely to -- it took me sometime to realize exactly how the effect was achieved. it's very worrying because actually he is quite capable of being decisive. >> one is redundancey and how everybody will say acres of land

and say strike out the last two land. strike out the last two words. what else could it be acres of. >> it's going to depreciate in value? what else? then the point about this is the language and so much of the communication has excess words, the lack of weight on your shoulder. you have to read them. >> clarity is the thing i worry about. and people over centuries learned over different ways. and there was not that much printing. it does seem that in the modern era, we have been able to achieve analytic clarity and create a common conversation with common standards and facts and you worry that that goes away if it's just images and

emotion. >> you are quite right. one of the things that offends me is we hear a bombing or see what happens in california or paris. the assassinations and murders and many news organizations said nobody claimed credit. why didn't they say the murders? words matter because they freed into minds that are half made up. there is something credible in taking the machine and kill iin and i made all the newings organizations in this book who use the word credit and wild horses will get the name out.

>> words matter. pleasure to have you on. >> next on gps, they call the 2016 presidential election for hillary clinton and the brexit referendum for remain. they were wrong on both counts. i will ask you to look into your crystal balls for 2018 when we come back. >> if you miss a show, go to cnn.com/fareed.

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to forecast the answers, go to cnn.com for a link to the global judgment challenge. i will tell you what you predicted and we will see how it measured up to reality. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week and this year. i will see you next week and next year. >> thank you so much for joining us on this new year's eve. we begin with breaking news out of colorado. a sheriffs deputy has been killed in four others wounded after aymanman opened fire in a denver suburb. according to the sheriff's office, the suspect was shot and believed to be dead as the body was taken from a hospital, officers held a procession.