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in gender and racial diversity we see. there was so much attention oscars so white, the hashtag pointing out the lack of diversity. now for three months talking about the tipping point and sexual harassment. see how the awards show acknowledge what's going on in the culture. >> at the golden globes all the women wearing black dresses as a nod to the me too movement. at the s.a.g. awards there will be all female presenters as a nod paying homage to the me too movement. >> thank you so much. we're covering a lot of news this morning so let's get right to it. this american carnage stops right now. >> sean spicer our secretary gave alternative facts. >> regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. >> you want to drop any investigation connected to flynn. >> the nomination is confirmed.
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>> i regret that our efforts were simply not enough. >> [ bleep ] paranoid schizophrenic. >> we have come so far and the people of alabama have spoken. rocketman is on a suicide mission for himself. >> the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history. >> isis collapsing. >> we are experiencing a new trend in the threat we face. >> we are disrespecting our flag and our country. >> i don't think we should be judged as un-american because we believe in equality. >> powerful men falling like dominos after stories of sexual misconduct. >> no more. name it. shame it. call it out. >> it's a watershed moment. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> happy new year to you and yours. welcome to this special new year's day edition of "new day." chris cuomo along with alisyn camerota. we have a big show for you this morning as we look ahead to 2018. it's going to be a big year in politics, that's for sure.
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let's give you an inside look at what's coming up on capitol hill, what congress may look like after these midterm elections and of course you got to look at the big issues that will have a major impact on the trump administration as it enters its second year. >> plus 2017 was marked by a tense relationship between president trump and the press. so chris cillizza will look at how that might play out this year. how about resolutions? one place you should start is your wallet, christine romans is here to help you get your finances in shape. and late night tv shook up 2017. will the political jokes keep us laughing in 2018 or are they getting old for some? that and much more ahead on this special edition of "new day." first a look at your headlines at the news desk. >> happy new year, i'm boris sanchez. family of five from new york among ten americans killed in a plane crash in costa rica.
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the charter plane crashing moments after takeoff on sunday from punta iflita airport. according to the "new york times" bruce and irene steinberg of scarsdale, new york, died in the crash along with their sons, william, zachary and matthew. outside denver a 29-year-old sheriff's deputy was shot and killed by a barricaded gunman. cnn's scott mclane is in highlands ranch, colorado, with more. >> reporter: boris, it was part ambush, part standoff. when it was all over, five law enforcement officers were shot, one of them was killed. according to the local sheriff shortly after 5:00 in the morning local time, four deputies were called out to a quiet apartment building in suburban denver about a disturbance. four deputies were also allowed inside of that apartment where they spoke to the suspect and his roommate. shortly after that, though, the suspect barricaded himself inside of one of the bedrooms, and then fired on all four deputies, hitting them.
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three of them were able to crawl to safety. one of them, 29-year-old zachary parrish, was not. here's how the sheriff described the situation. >> when he was shot and went down, the other officers went down right around him, and they tried to pull him out, but they were unable to, due to their injuries, and so they were able to crawl to safety. he was not conscious, and so they weren't able to talk to him or to get him out, and the suspect continued shooting at the officers, over zach. >> reporter: it wasn't until 7:30 in the morning, about an hour and 45 minutes after the first shots were fired, that a s.w.a.t. team actually went in and killed the suspect. in that process, one of those officers was shot in the leg. he's been released from the hospital. there were also two civilians who were not inside that apartment, who were also hit by gunfire. they have also been released from the hospital.
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the local sheriff says at this point his focus is on supporting deputy parrish's family. he leaves behind a wife and two small thirn. bo children. >> scott, thank you for that. we hope you're bundled up, as many as 27 record low temperatures expected to be set this new year's day with 150 americans under windchill alerts. temperatures in new york plunging to 9 degrees at midnight, minus 4 with the windchill, making this the second coldest time square ball drop on record. we hope you're enjoying the first day of 2018. let's return to a special edition of "new day." ♪ happy new year, everyone. welcome back to this special new year's day edition of "new day." so what can we expect to see this year from the president and coming out of the white house? let's talk about it with cnn political analysts david gregory
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and john avlon. get your crystal balls out, gentlemen. let's talk about at least what we know the president has on his wish list for the year. he talked about things like infrastructure. he wants to get done in 2018, entitlement reform of some kind. >> i think the biggest issues are going to be what we're not talking about in terms of a list, an agenda. i think that the mueller investigation will loom large in 2018. we know as the year ended that people close to the president thought oh, well, it was going to be done by thanksgiving. well, no, christmas. shortly after the first of the year. so whatever that final stage is, whether that's a matter of months or something shorter i think is going to occupy a lot of his time and attention, will probably get in the way if, you know, if he does have some bandwidth, i think he wants to focus on infrastructure. i think that would be a -- at least the basis for perhaps reaching out to democrats and trying to do a bigger deal,
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which he was not able to do on anything else. >> be a second straight deficit swallow for conservatives and his party. >> yes, that's right. >> it would be dismissed as makework by people but look, there's no question that it's needed. that's a good start to this. let me ask you something. let's play with it a little bit. do you think the president gets in any way exonerated, pardoned by letter, by implication? do you think in the beginning of 2018 that happens for the president? it was speculated on in december. do you think it happens in. >> it's clearly at the top of your wish list for 2018, but look. i preface it by saying if you live by the crystal ball, you usually end up eating glass. i don't want to get too per descriptive. if the trump team believeser this getting a letter exonerati exoneration, that's not how this works. you keep believing there's light
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at end of the tunnel, otherwise it will cloud out issues and may lead him to act impulsively. despite recent denials does that lead him to fire mule in a saturday night massacre. mueller plays it straight despite what folks are trying to say he's leading the fbi or the kgb in the organization are one in the same. this is not done on the president's timetable or congress' timetable and there are a lot of folks around the president who have serious issues. the question is whether the president's exposed himself. we know he had obstruction of justice in a televised interview but that may be trump being trump and no collusion. people need to keep an open mind. if the trump team believes they'll get a letter of exoneration i think that's fantasy. >> look at how tough the administration was in the foreign policy statement of rules against russia and talking
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about interference in western democracy. so in an election year, which 2018 is, are we going to see any effort on the part of congress or the administration to prevent russia from doing this kind of thing again, from doing it worse, from being even more disruptive? i think that's going to be something to look out for. >> do you agree in terms of legislatively what we'll see at the top of the list starting around now will be infrastructure? is that what they'll be focused on if they get away from whatever the russia threads are? >> that's what the president should be focused on. this was a time consensus between hillary clinton and donald trump this was a priority and donald trump has credibility as a builder to try to move it forward. you can pull together the art of the deal grand coalition and if you do it with the public/private infrastructure bank it doesn't need to be a deficit and debt buster. you can do it in other ways but the congressional energy we've seen is around entitlement reform. they're trying to basically make amends for a tax bill that
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potentially increases the debt. >> you're head of the republican party. you want people think the economy is going pretty well. that's the whole thing and try not to get impeached. the economy is going pretty well. that's the whole deal. he's presiding over a strong economy which people think certainly the markets will move forward well into 2018. >> let's talk about the president's team. there were quite a few departures in 2017. let's see what we, remind people of all of the people. it's hard to look at this roster here from tom price to mike flynn to steve bannon to reince priebus, sean spicer, james comey, sally yates, dee in a powell, anthony scaramucci. >> and we're out of time. >> amarosa, angela reed the chief white house usher. who do you think might change or move in 2018? >> i think a big question is about the chief of staff jon kelley and what his temperature
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and patience level is like, the dynamic between ivanka and jared, where there's legal jeopardy for jared kushner. that's a huge question and also how long the dysfunction is going to last. in the west wing. the big thing is the posture and foreign policy team. who has the big influence and the personnel. that's always a question when you think about defense secretary, secretary of state, national security adviser, who is running the cia, how those people advise the president in a big foreign policy crisis. i think that's the most important thing to keep an eye on. >> in the most sane and sober administrations, two years is a typical tenure, because there's a high degree of burnout because of the weight of the responsibilities people are dealing with and for a lot of folks it will be look, i made it through the first year, but am i going to consistently try to defend the indefensible?
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there's a strong case to be made the white house press secretary is the worst job in america. sarah huckabee sanders is doing that well defending her boss against the press. lot of folks say i've put in a year and unless they feel their job is mission critical you'll see increased turnover. will the white house staff be restocked with people trying to focus on responsible policy and containing the president or people who bet on that saying this is a fool's errand, i'm out. >> thank you very much. >> it's a good start, a peek ahead. president trump and most of the media weren't on the best of terms this past year, so what's the relationship going to look like in the year ahead? chris cillizza with his take, next. even a swing set standoff.
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what will the president and the press relationship look like this year? returning once again reporter and editor at large for cnn politics, chris "the point" cillizza. let's be honest, most of your reporting you do for yourself. >> i do. i play this game for me, chris. >> the president comes after us because he likes it, it works for him. >> um-hum. >> and that's who he is. do any of those things change in 2018? >> oh, gosh, no. >> okay, good to have you. thank you. >> and they say i talk too much. no, the thing that i think is always important to remember with donald trump that i try to tell people who ask me stuff on the street, i said look, if. you think that donald trump really hates the press, you're misunderstanding this. donald trump is more media obsessed and media focused. he watches more cable television, he reads more than any past president. there's no question. his consumption of media is higher than any past president.
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why does he attack us? because it works. because we are a willing scapegoat at times, sometimes an unwilling scapefwogoat but a scapegoat that works for the republican base. donald trump cares desperately about what the media thinks of him. why would he have a fake "time" magazine cover in five of his country clubs? why would he tout good news in a cnn poll? why would he tout a "new york times" story, because he cares deeply. it's not about what he -- it is about a political strategy, not a sort of deep down -- there are politicians who hate the media. he is not one of them. >> let's talk about what the relationship will look like in 2018. so far the press briefings in 017 h 2017 had been a lot of heat. sarah huckabee sanders hasn't always answered questions, hasn't always answered questions with full facts. >> yep. >> so does anything change in the press briefings?
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>> well remember the arc of its press briefings, too, in 2017. we went through sean spicer, combative central. >> hiding behind the bush. >> to no televised press briefings. to his credits, scaramucci, ten days' worth but there's no debate over whether they'll tell vials the daily press briefing. >> old on. is there no debate but could they just as easily go back and say that's over? >> of course they could. >> it didn't work for him. >> no, it didn't. that was an experiment that failed. the truth is trump had lost confidence in sean spicer. they didn't want him there because it was making things worse. you need to have a daily press briefing on tv. i don't say that as a reporter even if you're a politician it serves your interests every day to have someone advocating. >> do you think the president of the united states warms up more to the media in 2018? do you think he does more interviews? do you think you see him on "new
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day," do you think you see him in places he hasn't gone? >> it's an interesting point we overlook. he doesn't do a lot of interviews. neither did obama, but trump during the campaign it seemed like he was on "new day" a lot, he was on lots of things a lot. >> until he went we. there came a time, he stopped because there were a couple of interviews we had done with him that he didn't like. he didn't like how he came off and they were quite frankly, i mean, we asked him tough questions but they weren't gotcha questions, and he didn't like that. >> that gets to the point the question you asked, chris, do relationships warm up. donald trump is not a complex guy to figure out as it relates to the media. if you are nice to him and write things that he likes, he will be nice to you. it's as simple as that. if you ask him tough but fair questions, he will not. he will view that as gotcha media, which it isn't. you can say whatever you like. it's not, but i don't think it
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will be warmer for the people who go out of their way to make it easy for him, to answer questions, to be interviewed for. the rest of us in the free press i think it will be i wouldn't say worse, i would say more of the same. >> i would say in the interest of hope in 2018, i believe that i will have an interview with the president this year. >> i think it is possible, because remember, he will have this year some different calculations. he will be under a massive amount of pressure from congressional republicans to try to bump up his approval ratings, to try to burnish the republican brand, and like it or not, television and the media is the way in which most people get their perceptions from the president of the united states. >> right. >> so he will need us more in 2018 than he did in 2017. >> i think that's true. >> you know that he has found a work-around, which is called twitter, and so he thinks that he can get his message
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unfiltered directly to the people who want to hear from the president without having to be asked questions. >> he's also a 35%. >> he can. the problem with that is yes it's a loyal 30is isish percent people who agree with him and eat up every twitter message. it's not enough for him in 2020 and certainly not enough in swing states in 2018 in the house and senate race. he has to win in the middle somewhere. >> there's a key fact i'm surprised hasn't brought him back to us sooner. no one is as good as he is at selling his positions. kellyanne is strong. >> agree. >> a couple of surrogates who are okay, no one is as good as he is, even when, you know, you go toe to toe, he'd be yelling at me saying bad things. at the end of it, he felt good about himself and how he had done and people would say to him, you were strong. he doesn't get that when anybody else speaks for him. >> he is a good television performer. i remind people of that. you can hate him. you can love him.
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he is a good television performer. >> he played against his greatest advantage. >> which is interesting. i think he likes doing television. he like the combativeness, he likes the back-and-forth and doesn't often listen to his staff to not do things he likes. it's a little anti-type. more interviews i hope, more transparency with the president of the united states is a good thing, getting to ask questions directly. >> it's always part of the challenge. >> he's invited on any day of the year. >> every day. >> you're welcome here president trump. >> today and every day. who is coming to d.c. and who is out of the beltway in 2018? we'll discuss the revolving door on capitol hill and whether there's a power shift on the horizon, next. they really appreciate the military family, and it really shows. we've got auto insurance, homeowners insurance.
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♪ happy new year 2018. welcome back to this special new year's day edition of "new day." it's only the first day of 2018,
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and it's already busy about 2020. who's going to run, who won't run? what's going on the big deal? the presidential race is already on us. democrats, do they have a chance to do anything in the presidency? who knows, but it will start with the midterms. let's see if they can build on the momentum they got at the end of 2017. >> also this morning we'll look at the state of the u.s. economy. will it keep booming or will that change in 2018? but first, let's get a check of your head lines at the news desk. >> happy new year, i'm boris sanchez. we start with an update on the situation in iran. 12 people have died during five days of anti-government protests there, according to state media. president trump tweeting less than an hour ago that it is time for change in iran. he called that country a failing state, saying the people are hungry for freedom. officials meantime are denying that the government is
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permanently filtering social media sites. state media reported earlier the app's instagram and telegram were being temporarily restricted. north korean leader kim jong-un sending mixed messages last night. he claims he can hit the u.s. mainland with a nuclear strike, and that he keeps the button right on his desk. though also in his new year's address, kim reached out to south korea. he proposed immediate peace talks and asked for participation by north korean athletes in the upcoming winter olympics in pyeongchang. recreational marijuana sales are now legal in california as of this morning. anyone over 21 can now buy pot. medical marijuana card no longer required. the business is expected to grow with sales of $7 billion in california alone by the year 2020. college football playoffs begin tonight. number two seed oklahoma takes on number three seed georgia in the rose bowl and the sugar bowl
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between clemson and alabama, a rubber match. those teams meeting in the last two title games. the winner of today's games then meet next monday for the national title. we hope you're enjoying your first day of 2018. i'm boris sanchez. happy new year. welcome to this special new year's day edition of "new day." 2018, the mid terms will take place in november. republicans, will they retain control of congress? are the democrats going to ride a blue wave into power? i don't know, with you i got guys who have opinions about it. bring in political analyst david gregory and john avlon. look, i guess the central question, we always have the same one, right, when the
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president wins, he is vulnerable in the midterms, if certain conditions are in effect. do you see conditions going into this cycle where the president has concern? >> yes, i think the president is vulnerable because of himself, because of trumpism, the effect on the country, a level of fear, disapproval in the country that you see in his approval rating, that you see in a desire for a generic democrat to be in control of congress, and you see because of trumpism, and all of that implies, democrats highly energized, highly motivated, feeling the sting of the loss in 2016, not so much with an agenda, but it is a rejection of trump, and of republicans, and i think that is the vulnerability in 2018. >> so new jersey, alabama, virginia, those were harbingers in your mind? >> new jersey and bam were not subtle. those are evidences of a deep wave motivated democrats,
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shocking the world in the case of alabama, but the two key things to look at are first of all the presidential approval. typically if a president is under 50% and you're heading into the first midterms, even his advisers say stay away from the field. you're toxic. you'll alienate folks. the opposition is more motivated. being inspect low 30s where president trump is, that's uncharted territory. that's recipe for a blue waves. the other factor shouldn't make the dems too satisfied. the senate map is tough for democrats. it's much more favorable than republicans. republicans are in primarily deep red states. they have to pull a couple rabbits out of the hat. second is the rigged system of redistricting. we've seen this story over and over again. democrats can win the popular vote in certain states and still lose the congressional seats 2:1. north carolina, pennsylvania, go on and on. so those are two significant structural obstacles but against
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that is the specter of historical unpopular presidency. >> all of the state seats that democrats lost is where the redistricting gets done so even though you see the impact on the federal level, it was done at the state level, those seats mattered more as it turned out for the democrats. i hear john on the senate. what about the house? >> i think the house is much more vulnerable. you look in states like if you look at the exit polling out of alabama you see the president in a state he won convincingly at about a 48% approval. that is dangerous territory because it says those seats, those districts, counties where he was so strong that both he's vulnerable and therefore republicans are vulnerable who have not really shown much in the way of opposition to trump or to trumpism. those who have bucked the president are usually retiring, and so what's going to fill that void? you have the specter of steve bannon and what he represents in the midterm race, but i think they are much more vulnerable on the house. i think 2018 is an election year that's about arguing the economy, which is hey, this
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president's presiding over a strong economy. he's lowered your taxes. he wants to get you back to work. he wants to get the country going again, maybe talk of infrastructure, and trump is in the position of leading the republican party but all the while saying oh no, i'm not with them. you know? he'll quickly say i'm not with those guys, if they can't get obama karr repealed and a obamacare repealed and all the rest. >> 2018 is an election year. is any year not an election year nowadays? >> no. >> is it too soon to talk about 2020? will we start to see the seeds of who's running in 2020 planted this year? >> of course you will. this is how it works. people who want to run in 2020 try to distinguish themselves as party leaders in the mid terms. that's historical pattern going way back. you try to show you're the leader of the party, you can get people as kro the facross the f.
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folks will be playing national roles in the midterm elections. >> whatever the administration may want to accomplish legislatively in 2018 will be filtered through not just this race but about 2020, so democratic opposition will start to play itself out in terms of what 2020 looks like. we'll see who is called in to campaign with people. >> that's a great tip for people to look for, see where democrats are invited. >> yes. >> you'll see one or two things. who's got buzz, who do they want around them and who doesn't want them, which may be a cross index of somebody else wanting to run in that place, too. it's a good thing to watch. >> i keep coming back to look who did well this year, right, in alabama and virginia. they were not the bernie sanders and elizabeth warren wing of the party. they were much more centrist. cory booker is in alabama successfully trying to galvanize liberals and african-american voters, is he the one who
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travels well? kirsten gillibrand. >> the cory booker thing seemed to work in alabama. >> i put money on sir charles. lot of folks are choking down bloody marys thinking about 2020 but it's here. >> it's here because of how the president will position himself. the economy is everything, in 2018 and 2020. >> yep. >> if president trump it say don't pay attention to the other stuff. if i keep the economy going, he's going to make a strong argument. >> generally that works. >> it's the economy, stupid. >> here we go. john avlon, david gregory, thank you both very much. all right, so you just heard the guys talking about how the economy is going to be everything, and we certainly had robust growth at the end of 2017. will it continue in 2018? interesting. we talk about the economy, we show you the stock exchange. is that the real measure? we'll talk about your portfolio at least next.
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you can look at the economy a lot of different ways. if you want to take jobs, growth of the various markets, you know, you're going to have some of the biggest money topics of last year wind up flying into your face, and the question becomes well, can you see more of it in 2018? not a foregone conclusion. let's discuss what does it mean for you, mean for us?
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chief business correspondent christine romans. >> happy new year. >> i give you heat for it but it's true. things don't continue to go up forever and we have been seeing something that, by economic standards, is getting close to forever. >> it is a remarkable, remarkable run this economy has had and you just look at the last year. 2017 was a great first year for president trump, it really was. it was a continuation of what has been eight or nine years of a remarkable recovery from the depths of despair, quite frankly. jobs, very, very good last year, but they were very good the year before, too, and now it's going to be presidential strategies you guys, presidential policies and what congress does that's going to take this foundation and propel it into 2018. you could almost argue that it was years of policies of janet yellen and central bankers that were driving things and now we're heading into a new period, a new period of tax cuts and a very strong economy, and central banks raising interest rates, and now it's a new mix. >> what about the growth
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predictions? some said they're overly ambitious. what do you think is possible in 2018? >> let's talk first about the job situation. this is really important, the unemployment rate. this has been i think the star of 2017, 4% unemployment rate. still, there are several million americans who are working age who should be working and who aren't. so will president trump's policies be able to entice those people back into the labor market? do they have the skills and the education to do that? will that be the story of 2018? what i'm hearing a lot is employers who are not finding workers. will wages start to rise? wages have not been rising yet. on the first day of 2018, first working day of 2018, wages will go up in 18 states and some 20 different cities. wages will be rising but it won't be the doing of this administration. it will be those states that decided to do that. >> except what's interesting as we know in politics the second part of what you just said will be this, to republicans.
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when when they tick up, even though they're against raising the minimum wage they'll count that in their wages. is it fair to say that wages may be, if you had to find a criterion as opposed to criteria, you know, just one thing, wages, and just because they're looking for labor, right, which is true in some areas, there's a cross-section to do they find that labor here domestically or find it somewhere else. that's when your wage goes up for that part of the population, is wages the main indicator of 2018? >> i think it might be. it really might be. because if you really do have the worker shortages that companies are complaining about, that would mean supply and demand mean you have to pay more wages. what some ceos will tell you there's an immigration component, too. they want to allow college kids who study from abroad to stay here and start companies and that is not necessarily the agenda of the trump administration and congress right now. >> the stock market obviously there have been record-breaking days since president trump took over and he's touted it, and
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there's been a lot of records broken. give us context. >> his supporters have said again and again that aren't we lucky to have a businessman running the economy now, and not a community organizer or liberal politician. i'd like to show you what that looks like. the president trump, he had his first year up some 20% in the stock market. the first year of president barack obama was up almost 29%. >> not apples to apples. >> not apples to apples, coming out of a crisis. when you look at the stock market it has been unbelievable. record after record after record in this year, but look in context, you guys. this is a run that has been going on for a very long time. we had i think seven of the past nine years double-digit returns in the stock market. that is an old bull. so what happens now? it's overdue for a pullback but you do have macro economic winds blowing in favor of the economy continuing to grow and grow solidly. >> resolutions for the new year, what do you want us to do? >> i want you to save for
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college. i want to you live a little below your means. i want you to make sure you're putting away for the future because i don't think a stock market can continue to go up like this forever, quite frankly. >> how much do you want to us put away for your future? >> i want you to be living 70/10/10/10. live on 70 cents of every dollar, ten into savings, nine months of your bills you would be able to access if you have a job loss or health issue in the year, 70/10/10/10 is a fine way to look at it. if the economy is doing well and it will be, i think, if wages slowly start to rise and the stock market is doing well that's exactly the time to be preparing for the future and not spending beyond your means. i this i that's going to be the story for 2018. >> what do you want to us splurge on? can we have any fun? >> i like vacations and technology. >> vacations and technology. >> whatever it is you want to splurge on. >> i like vacations.
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>> i do splurge on vacations. >> that's great, i like that. good advice. >> guarantee you she is not living on 707 cents. maybe seven, but i'm telling you, she's one of those throw on a sweater if it's cold. i know romans. i've read the books. >> i know that, hearty midwesterner. you put on a sweater i'm sure of it. >> 401(k) a perfect time to rebalance, make sure you have the right mix of risk for your age and when you're going to retire. this is a perfect time to take stock in your life, in your relationships and your money. >> great advice, christine, thank you. happy new year. >> roman, that was heavy. i got to rethink everything. up next, the expanding role of late night tv. it's not just for laughs anymore, right? in 2017, punchlines gave way to just political punches. let's take a look ahead to late night in 2018, next. that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day.
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oh my gosh. "saturday night live" spent 2017 skewering president trump and his administration as you know, and they were not the only ones. joining us now cnn senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter and also with me cnn analyst bill carter. i miss melissa mccarthy. >> i was wrong when i said it and you wrote it. that makes you wrong." >> oh my gosh, that was epic obviously. we miss her and "snl" really, look, they've been finding their groove for a long time. they really came into their own this year. >> it's as if the campaign has never ended. that's the reality about the shows. 13 months since election day and the late night shows "snl" and daily late night shows are acting like it is an election which it kind of is. we're sort of in a permanent campaign. the shows are more polarized than ever as the country is.
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>> lorne michaels said he'd do real political sapphire in an election year because that's the only time the audience was paying attention. that's over with, they're paying complete attention and it's going to continue. >> lorne michaels is not just "snl." el he's seth meyers and others. he's got his irons in there. what do you think about in the year ahead, there's no reason to believe anything changes in terms of our political culture in the dialogue that's going on. what are the variables in terms of what late night tv brings in this year? >> this is an open question whether this is starting to get tiring, meaning these comedians whether it's stephen colbert or seth meyers, they have six months ago said president trump should step down, resign. these comedians have gone so far so early on in the trump presidency, makes you wonder if they can keep it up and if the audience wants them to. >> is there evidence in the ratings people are tiring? >> i don't see anything.
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colbert has only risen as he adopted, since jimmy kimmel when he got personally involved. >> we have this moment. let's remind everybody of what he did. he totally pivoted from comedy to a really personal story about health care. listen to this. >> if your baby is going to die and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. i think that's something that whether you're a republican or democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right? >> this was about getting rid of the affordable care act. who would have predicted a late night comic would have become the voice of health care? >> that was real. people did criticize him because they criticize everybody but look, that was real and heartfelt and he's taken more stands because of that and i think he's out there now. he's not going to back down. i think he's committed. >> when you have these shows with the anti-trump messaging every single night, you this i about the impact of pop culture, broadly and late night specifically, makes you wonder, there's 59%, 60% of the country
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that disapproves of president trump after one year. is there any way that number changes? or are these shows part of the kind of solidification of his disapproval numbers? is there any way he can regain ground if every single night stephen colbert and jimmy kimmel and seth meyers are making fun of him? >> it's a great question. they established their view. this guy is the enemy and a buffoon. >> john oliver had made a little bit of a name for himself and then there was a fade. is that because the daily became more relevant? "snl" is an institution but is this a fast cycle? >> absolutely. john oliver did win the emmy, it's not like he totally faded. only once a week, samantha b. is in the same category, you have to choose your battles differently. these guys go after the news. colbert said they changed their show on the fly so often because
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there's news happening at 4:00, 5:00 in the afternoon. >> is she in the same category? she doesn't pop to mind in terms of people making a difference. >> viral sensation, hers become viral. >> she's the voice of women in this. >> and there's no show that's taken a different tack. would you think there would be space for a red america, red state conservative view of the news, a comedic view at the end of the night but there hasn't been. >> colbert doesn't think about using his parody character anymore. >> colbert has a comedic version in the work. showtime will come out with an animated president trump spoof colbert is working on. >> there are no real comedy writers that have a different point of view, that's one of the big problems. it's really the world of entertainment is a left center world and that's why most of these shows will be that way. >> alec baldwin is still employed. i didn't think alec baldwin would still be playing president trump 18 months after he
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started. >> jimmy got in trouble because he was too soft on trump and a lot of people have not forgiven him for that. i sort of praised a bit he did, springsteen and he did a very funny parody, robert mueller is coming to town, and it was very well done but on twitter people attacked him saying it's too little too late. you can't go after trump now. >> colbert is the breakout star of 2017, isn't he? >> yes. >> in terms of ratings and late night, colbert is head and shoulders among the rest of comics, a man who might have found his show fading away in a hillary clinton presidency has broken through. >> remember they also have it easy with trump because what you're saying about the culture they're playing to. there was a time when political comedy was always dangerous. you think about lenny bruce and carlin, people took chances and paid the price. there was an in and and out to provocation. they play safe these days more than they don't. >> if you don't take chances now, fallon is not taking
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chances and he's taking heat for that. the audience is expecting a certain amount of edge because the audience is on edge. that's one of the factors. everybody wakes up every day and doesn't know what's going to happen in this world, in this universe and turning to comedy every night and it's satisfying. >> you don't need to tell us. we're right here on the front lines, bill, every damned day. >> happy new year. >> all right, thank you so much for spending your new year's morning with us. we hope you have a great 2018, and i hope you sleep off whatever you did last night. >> great suggestion. thank you for spending so much of 2017 with us, and we look forward to 2018 with you as well. "cnn newsroom" picks up after this quick break. happy new year! there are two types of people in the world. those who fear the future... and those who embrace it. the future is for the unafraid.
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good monday morning, everyone. happy 2018 to you. i'm poppy harlow in new york. john berman has the morning off, deservedly so. it is the first day of the new year and the last day of the president's holiday in mar-a-lago. he is due back in washington tonight w spending bills, immigration, trade battles all on the front burner and iran very much front of mind for this president. this morning he writes "iran is failing at every level despite the terrible deal made with them by the obama administration. the great iranian people have been repressed for many years.

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