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september, and the fire tv, amazon fire now directs customers to use youtube in a web browser instead. i guess it's in your living room. >> isn't there enough room, enough money being made by both that we can -- >> can't we just all get along? >> can't we? it's 2018 let's resolve to get them together. >> thanks. >> iran's stream leader blaming enemies for the anti-government protests. "new day" has it all covered for you right now. >> we are witnessing we are witnessing iranians who want change. >> the government has been cracking down on these demonstrations. >> we don't have the leverage to shape what's happening on the streets of iran. >> we're actually closer to a nuclear war with north korea than we've ever been. >> kim jong-un threatening the u.s., but extending a rare olive branch to south korea.
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>> the president being a loose canon on twitter should build upon successes to finally bring north korea to the table. >> the president has a big domestic agenda planned for 2018. >> the budget is going to have to be dealt with. >> border security, marry that up with the d.r. aenchts m. act. >> announcer: this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> it's 6:00 here in new york. chris is off. john berman joins me. happy new year. >> 2018 is exhausting. >> off to a bang, that is for sure. deadly protests spreading in iran. president trump tweeting his support for iranian people, while declaring it's time for change in tehran. iranian government firing back at the president, saying he has no business sympathizing with, quote, wicked enemies. and on the korean peninsula, south korea offering to meet with north korea next week in
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the dmz after kim jong-un expressed an interest in sending a delegation to the winter olympics. could this drive a wedge between the u.s. and south korea? two months ago the president claimed pakistan was finally respecting the u.s. in his first tweet of the new year, the president says pakistan has given the u.s. nothing but lies and deceit, claiming they give safe haven to terrorists. the white house withholding millions in military assistance. where does this feud go? also on the president's domestic plate, a daunting legislative agenda, immigration plan for d.r.e.a.m.ers. good morning, joe. >> reporter: good morning, john. the president back here at the white house after the long holiday break. his administration and the congress now confronting all the domestic issues they had to put aside in order to hit the road in december, but it is the
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international issue so far that have dominated the president's twitter feed during this new year. president trump returning to washington with a large legislative to do list, a range of international issues on his plate. >> everybody is going to love what's happening with our country because we're taking this big, beautiful ship and we're slowly turning it around. i would like to do it faster. >> reporter: mr. trump weighing in multiple times over the holiday on the deadly anti-government protests in iran. saying that iran is failing at every level and calling for change after warning the u.s. is watching very closely for human rights violations. >> it's not enough to watch. president trump is tweeting very sympathetically to the iranian people. but you just can't tweet here. you have to lay out a plan. >> reporter: iran's ambassador to the uk calling the tweets offensive in an instagram posting monday night. as for kim jong-un's new year's
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threat that the nuclear button is always on his desk, president trump saying only this. >> we'll see. we'll see. >> reporter: the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff warning that the u.s. is closer to a nuclear war with north korea than ever before. >> i don't see the opportunities to solve this diplomatically at this particular point. >> reporter: the trump administration's relationship with pakistan also strained, heading into the new year. mr. trump accusing pakistan of lying and deceiving the united states in his first tweet of the year and, again, alleging that the country's leaders have given safe haven to terrorists. >> we have been paying pakistan billions and billions of dollars. at the same time, they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting. >> reporter: national security council spokesman later saying the u.s. will continue to withhold $255 million in aid from the country. pakistan responding by summoning the u.s. ambassador for a
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meeting and promising to respond shortly to let the world know the truth. all this, as the administration confronts a number of legislative deadlines back here in the u.s. the first, a january 19th deadline to pass a spending bill and avert a government shutdown that could cost billions. one issue that will be front and center, protection for so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers brought to the country as children. the president insisting there will not be a deal on daca without funding for a wall, a nonstarter for democrats. >> will you give anything to the president on border wall funding in order to get a daca deal done? >> no. >> because he says -- >> reporter: now, democrats have shown an openness to work with the president on infrastructure issues and infrastructure is like ly to be a topic of conversation when the president meets with the vice president for lunch today along with the labor secretary right here in this room later today. the press secretary is expected
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to hold her first news conference in a couple of weeks. international issues are likely to be very high on the list of questions. john, back to you. >> reporter: sure are. joe johns at the white house, iran first and foremost among them. moments ago, iran's supreme leader blamed the country's enemies for stirring unrest as the death toll keeps rising in the unrest there. nick paton walsh is live for us on this story. nick? >> reporter: the supreme leader of iran saying that, quote, enemies were behind, fermenting this unrest. it is telling that the supreme leader of iran, who sits constitutionally above the president, so to speak, more of a spiritual gardenship, that he would feel obliged to comment on these protests at all, the worst since the uprising of 2009.
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it comes as the death toll doubled overnight, 21 since prote protests began thursday, concentrated in one particular province. but the broader question is how do you calm a protest movement like this that doesn't have a key set of demands or a leader you can negotiate with. president rohani saying he explains the protests but none of them expected to spread this level of voracity and passion. they will target, with some degree of resolution, those organizing or behind the protests. do we see further bloodshed or some bid to try to slow this down? the outside world watching but many iranians, too, young, unemployed and angry at the lack of opportunities particularly since the deal was to ease sanctions and that hasn't
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happened. >> david sanger, happy new year, david. >> happy new year, alisyn. >> how do you see what's happening in iran today? >> it's pretty remarkable. first of all, none of us saw this coming, and this timing. it is reminiscent, of course, of the 2009 uprising. and the problem that president trump faces today is very similar to the one that president obama faced then. you may remember that president obama was very hesitant to say too much in favor of the protesters. not because he didn't sympathize with them but because he was concerned that the government would quickly come to the conclusion that they were american backed or at least make the argument in public that it was the u.s. government, the cia that was fomenting this. he didn't want to help the iranian government put the entire uprising down. so, president trump's tried the other approach. he has come out very much in favor of the protesters right
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away. you've seen those tweets. and now we've seen the supreme leader ayatollah homeni do exactly what president obama was afraid of, making the case that this was inciting by foreign governments. >> it was inevitable that the supreme leader would point to the united states and others as being behind these protests. we saw a statement not unlike that from the iranian ambassador to the united kingdom saying that america and the west are fully aware that we're capable of solving our own problems. it's strange that trump, who previously referred to iran as a country of terrorists. in another statement he referred to iranians as a hungry people in need of pity. you can see to an extent what the regime is trying to do there. but the united states has interests here as well. clearly the president wants to
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stand behind these people taking to the streets. >> he clearly does. and he should. he has to be careful in the way he does it. you know, one thing that he could do that would truly show support, i think, for the iranian people, versus the government -- this has been much debated over many years, is make it easier, not harder, for iranian students to come into the united states, go to universities, as they did before the iranian revolution in 1979 and go back home with an understanding of what the institutions of democracy look like. of course, iran is on the state sponsor of terrorist list for the president and so the result is he has put the iranian people on the immigration ban as well. i think that's one of the tensions you see here. there's another tension, john, that has to do with the iranian nuclear agreement which, of course, the president has been trying to squeeze. but the pressure that president rohani is under right now, who
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negotiated that deal with the obama administration, is that he's being criticized for not getting enough of the economic benefits of the deal out to the iranian people. and, of course, president trump's argument is the reverse, that iran got too much from the deal. so if you really want to bring economic benefits to the iranian people, the question is, is there a way to support president rohani in doing that? he is under great pressure here. and i suspect if anybody takes the fall for this, it will be him. >> david, it's been interesting to see who is voicing support for president trump's position on this, including people who were in the obama administration. so dennis ross, national security council official, ambassador. here is what he said about what president trump has tweeted. listen to this. >> in retrospect, i think we made a mistake. i think we should have made it clear that, in fact, the world
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was watching. i think it's very important that the trump administration not look like they're trying to foment trouble because that, i think, ultimately wouldn't be very credible. this administration, president trump is not seen internationally as being a champion of human rights. so, again, saying the world is watching is probably the right tone. >> let me clarify. when he says i think we made a mistake, he means the obama administration, for being more hands off? >> that's right. and he was in the obama administration at that time. and he was one of the officials who they had me sit down with, who had to defend the way that president obama was handling it. and you could tell at the time that mr. ross' heart wasn't in the defense. i think he's got it exactly right. there's a fine line here between supporting the protests and, more importantly, what the protesters are standing up for, which has become more than just their economic rights. of course, it's become political, as it was in 2009,
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and not appearing to be the one fomenting it. and that's a really subtle distinction. and i think it's the one that is going to be the hardest one for the president to navigate. and mr. ross made one other very important point there. the u.s. has been somewhat selective in the places where it's talked about human rights. so we have not made many human rights complaints about china, the philippines. so the president standing up now to do so about iran looks a little bit like it serves his political agenda, even if he's exactly right to be making the case that he is. >> if we can, i want to shift to pakistan right now. president trump seems to be playing good cop bad cop with pakistan but he's both cops in this case. back in the fall he talked about how pakistan is respecting the u.s. like it never has before. but now in his first statements of the new year, you know, the
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president has been writing about that pakistan is not living by its obligations to fight terrorists and is threatening to withhold money promised to pakistan. >> the fundamental argument here is that the pakistanis are being paid by the united states to go conduct counterterrorism operations. the president of pakistan, somewhat interim, was in new york a few months ago and he told me at that time, there are no terrorists in pakistan. there's no problem here. i don't understand what the issue is. and he was -- sort of had his head in the sand about the whole thing. president trump is take iing, i think, a much tougher position, but a very understandable one than president obama did, by threatening to cut off this aid, because the pakistanis clearly are not taking this as seriously as the program money would suggest they need to. at the same time, again, there's a fine line. and the fine line here is pakistan is a nuclear armed
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country and a major nonnato ally, as designated by president bu bush. the question is, if you drive them away, if they become more radicalized, what do you do with a radicalized nuclear armed nation? and that's going to be a tough line for the president. >> but it does seem to have gotten pakistan's attention. they're calling back their ambassador for talks about this. >> it sure does. they never held back the aid for very long under president obama's administration. the question is, can president trump use this to actually force the pakistanis into a change. that's going to be hard. the politics within pakistan are extremely difficult and, really, the one that he needs to be dealing with is the pakistani military not the government. it's the military that's both in
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control of these decisions and also that is receiving the funds. >> david, wait. stick around. there's more. a lot more to talk with you about because of this breakthrough on the korean peninsula. if south korea accepts north korea's invitation to discuss, where does that leave the u.s.? no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
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a critical turn of events on the korean peninsula, south korea and north korea meeting on the dmz. also joining us, john avalon. david sanger, you brought up the issue of this wedge that north korea might be trying to create between the u.s. and south korea. explain. >> this is a fascinating and very canny move on the part of kim jong-un, the north korean leader. for years, really decades, the north koreans have not wanted to go deal directly with south korea. they've always wanted to deal only with the united states. they've called south korea the lackey, the puppet of the u.s. so why now tharkts moment, a month before the olympics open
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up in south korea, are the north koreans suddenly seeking to have direct talks with the south? the answer is fairly simple. they see an opening between president moon, the new president of south korea, and president trump. president moon has argued that military operations and exercises with the united states should be suspended for a while during the olympics. it's president moon who has argued for direct talks with north korea and who has not talked as much about sanctioning the north. although, he has enforced the u.n. sanctions. i think that what we've seen is that kim jong-un, seeing a chance to say i'll deal with just the south koreans and see if i can weaken the 70-year-old alliance between the u.s. and south korea and strike my own deal there. as president moon has infuriated president trump with a lot of his comments before, including the one that president moon
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saying he has a veto right against any military action by the u.s. in the north. the administration tells me that's not the case. >> but, john, why wouldn't the u.s. welcome this? wouldn't we welcome a wedge over war? if south korea can get the north to fly right or, you know, whatever, why not welcome it? >> i think two things. first of all, you can make the case that kim is reacting to the trump administration much tougher line on north korea. but we have to be careful about getting too over our skis about a new north korea that all of a sudden is led by a man of vanguard and peace and statesman-like behavior. let's not dechlt lude ourselves. that said, it's a kany move by north korea ahead of the olympics to shift the discussion by saying let's meet and try to d de-escalate this. let's not get snow bid the idea
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that it's a born-again statesman. >> kim jong-un saying he can mass produce nuclear weapons. >> i'm not saying this is going to be a makeover for kim jong-un i'm saying, david, if south korea can get the job done, shouldn't the u.s. welcome that? >> certainly as a temporary reprieve, i don't think there's any problem with that, alisyn. and president moon has one objective here. get through the olympics with no incidents with the north koreans. >> right. >> one way to go do that is to invite the north koreans to participate have, their athletes participate in the olympics. it looks like that may be under way. that's an offer the south made a while ago. and the theory is that the north is not going to mess around with an olympics in which their own athletes are competing. so nothing wrong with that. i think the bigger question for the trump administration is does this initiative undercut the long-term goal, which is to force the north koreans to give
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up their nuclear arsenal? as you said that new year's statement had a lot in it about mass producing nuclear weapons. >> one thing that north korea has in common with iran is international events that are moving forward and the united states is not the biggest driver here. these are happening and the united states is being forced to react, perhaps not drive them. i also want to talk about israel right now. voting to make it sort of easier -- make it harder, shall we say, for jerusalem to be part of any long-term peace deal. they've raised the bar. they also made it easier for the israelis to unilaterally distinguish what is jerusalem. what do you think is going on there? are they react iing, john, perhaps, to president trump with a much more tilting the scales toward israel and not the palestinians? >> it is fascinating to the extent that trump basically believes if you play offense, other people react to you,
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rather than bringing people together in a kumbaya style. netanyahu is a great ally of trump and is trying to present himself that way. you're also seeing how interconnected the chess pieces are, what's happening in iran is connected to what's happening in north korea. so all these pieces are in place but as we begin 2018, you're seeing a lot of countries reacting to president trump and at least on a self identification level, that's the kind of thing he likes. whether that's good for peace or u.s. leadership is a whole other question. >> how do you see it, david? >> you have to see this in the context of the president's decision just before the holidays to go recognize jerusalem as the true capital of israel and say that he's going to move the embassy there.
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he may not manage to move the embassy there for many years as secretary of state tillerson acknowledged. by doing so, he empowered those within prime minister netanyahu's coalition to make the declaration that they did today. and that's going to make it harder if they actually do move to any conversation with the palestinians and none seems immediately in the offing to try to come up with a way in which you would actually negotiate over the future status of jerusalem. that may be exactly what the president intended. it just makes the process of a peace deal, what's been handed to jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, all the more difficult. >> john avlon, david sanger, thank you very much. president trump promising a very special 2018. can he convince democrats to work with him on this very ambitious agenda that includes a budget, infrastructure bill and immigration plan? we're just getting started.
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president trump faces a daunting legislative agenda. topping the list, a neufeld budget, infrastructure bill and comprehensive immigration plan to deals with millions of d.r.e.a.m.ers. i'm not sure how the math works but we're going to get to that. let's bring in john avlon and kharoun demarjin.
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>> you can't have a. infrastructure plan is the biggest opportunity. what the president has been talking most about. it's in his wheelhouse. like all major measures will require bipartisan coalition. trump is do bipartisan is the new phrase. will democrats feel incentivized to do it? now with doug jones in the senate, the margin is tight. can there be some grand bargain on d.r.e.a.m.ers and the wall? that's a tough pill for the democrats to swallow. >> he made a joke this morning, the agenda for 2018 is everything. it sort of is. you want to get everything done here. kharoun, it may be d.r.e.a.m.ers here where democrats decide to stage what could be a political last stand or big fight here. >> yeah, especially because it's something they believe will actually matter once we get to campaign season, turning out the
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vote. it's a very passionate, emotional issue, an issue people feel passionately about. though it's not necessarily in another situation the deciding issue, immigration is not necessarily deciding issue for voters, when you take something away that has been there for a lot of people, that's a really significant thing that will not go unnoticed. so it's going to be an interesting question, both for democrats, will they make a deal. and it sounds like right now they don't want to make a deal if it involve ace wall and for republicans that have to run in states with large hispanic populations, populations that are familiar with immigrants coming in that may react to this quite poorly. gop members last year put out proposals for border security that did not involve the wall, as the president has actually tried to sell it to the public. this is some internal tension for the republican party, too, of how hard it will go for this deal that the president says he want. >> right. they seem to be at lagerheads as
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john pointed out so well. this is going to involve the president, i would assume, rolling up his sleeves and showing some of his deal making. >> the art of the deal, this would be a good time for that. the well has been poisoned. last year all the -- everything was so along hard partisan lines, tax bill in particular. so, can he find areas of common self interest? the democrats feel don't give away the stores as you head into 2018. children's health insurance program still has not been funded and could expire. that should unite democrats and republicans. if we can't agree on taking care of children's health care, what the hell are we talking about, people? >> where does russia rank as it hangs over these issues right now, karoun? there are concerns that democrats are going to shut down the republican investigation, republicans saying things have gone too far. >> that will be the other major issue that will govern about how people feel about everything going on in 2018. you'll see further steps in the
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mue will ler probe, wind down of investigations on the hill and ramp up of other investigations on the hill trying to take a light and shine it on how the fbi and doj operations were functioning at the time of the clinton e-mail probe, in the dossier that's something that they've already started to look into. and depending how those progress and what sorts of new revelations those are concerning allegations against the president as we've seen that can throw everything off course in a second. so, that is going to be something that's hanging over everything for several months, frankly, into the new year. >> karoun, you have reporting on this, including devin nunez, chair of the house investigation. he, as we all remember, had to step aside because he was accused and, in fact, i think, admitted to sharing information with the white house that he wasn't supposed to as the chairman of the investigation. so, he has been cleared. so now he's back.
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it sounds like he's back -- according to democrats -- with a vengeance. they think he is actually actively blocking their requests for documents, for subpoenas to interview people again, like don junior. so how is this going to work? >> well, this has been -- of the three congressional probes, this has been the one that's been the most beset by political fighting basically. nunes chose to step aside last spring when allegations came out that maybe he had broken house rules by sharing classified information. the house committee decided no, he did not break any rules. he comes back in the clear beginning last month. he's not resting back the leadership of the russia probe about from the people he has appointed to handle it. he has never reaccuse erecused
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from the chairmanship. ramping up those frustrations in the last few weeks as we've seen the house gop probe, indications they're going to try to be wrapping up soon, sub group of republicans, including nunes, that will putting out a report about corruption in the doj in the russian probe. it will be a politically explosive period at the house intelligence committee. does that political fighting take over other committees as well? they've managed to stay more above the fray in many ways but this is a familiar situation. >> i have to say on the subject of explosive, john avlon, over the christmas break here, there was an expose showing what his role was in the inception of the fbi investigation into the whole russia matter, papadopoulos was bragging that russia had thousands of e-mails on hillary clinton and that may be where
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they started investigating. >> papadopoulos brags over a night of drinks that russia has these e-mails and want to use them in the trump campaign against hillary clinton. that the fbi then started an initiation investigation in july, all right? so this really does show a degree of communication, possibly collusion and an fbi investigation was initiated that was not made public, unlike the fbi investigation into hillary clinton. a double standard that may have had a decisive impact on the outcome of the election. >> it's interesting what it does to the talking points, at least the ones we've heard from the jim jordans and like, that this is all based on some flimsy dossier and no, it isn't. new we all know that the impetus is what papadopoulos was saying. >> trump official is bragging he
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knows early that russia has said they have these e-mails and want to use them and release them to benefit the republicans in the election. that is a huge deal. sometimes we get so stuck in the spin cycle that we're in, we forget you take a step back. that's something unprecedented in american modern history. and the fbi investigation early also hugely -- >> someone who has pled guilty to lying to the fbi and cooperating with this investigation. >> correct. >> john avlon, k aro. un demirjian thank you very much. we're learning more about the american families killed in a plane crash.
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wall street journal review found ivanka trump has worn her own fashion brand clothing in 68% of her social media photos since becoming a white house adviser last march. is that a conflict of interest? cnn money correspondent christina aleshi and office of government ethics. let's give everybody examples. this was at a nasa event in december, on december 11th. here she is, wearing her cold shoulder dress. and that dress then sold out on her website. here is another example. this is from december 18th. she wore this lovely dress, as you can see, at this event.
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this was a school event. and now that is selling like hot cakes. walter, what's wrong with her wearing her own line of clothing? >> look, she can wear whatever she wants whenever she wants. but we're in this situation because she is one of the rare government appointees in the white house who has not divested her financial interests and that put ace higher burned on her to be conscience of what she's doing at all times. >> she hasn't divested, she wears her brand, it sells like hot cakes and she makes money. >> i don't think anybody is saying she's doing anything wrong in this case. what troubles people like walter and people who protect the ethics of government really is the fact that she goes up to a line and she doesn't quite cross the line but just explores the line and where it exists. >> what is the line? >> the line is -- the technical
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law is misuse of government position, that you're misusing your position in government to personally profit somehow. and she's not doing that in this case because she could say i'm just wearing the clothes. i'm not overly marketing the clothes. if i were, that's a different story. and her company did actually get in trouble for that earlier this year. >> in july of 2016. this is when they did market it. they tweeted from her twitter account, shop ivanka's look from her rnc speech and put up the link so that you could buy her dress. so, that is actual crossing the line. >> that could be construed as crossing the line. that could get them in trouble. in these later cases "the wall street journal" profiles it's really just about selecting a clothing line. you have to put this in greater context. she's a marketing genius. this is what she grew up with. this is what she did before she joined the white house. she know what is she wears will
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get covered. >> walter here is what she has said, a statement she gave about all of this. if what motivated me was to grow my business and make money i would have stayed in new york and done just that. that wouldn't make sense because she wouldn't have gotten her white house platform had she not gone to the white house. >> that statement is laughable. the reality is that the core principle of the ethics program is that you're not supposed to misuse your government position for private gain. this is the international definition of corruption. this is the principle that george h.w. bush founded as the cornerstone of the ethics program. now i'm not -- i agree with christina. it's a not necessarily inappropriate for her to wear her stuff. look, she could have chosen not to come into government. she could have chosen to divest her financial interests. she could have said she was going to give away the profits while she's in government to remove any concern. but choosing not to do any of those things, she is held to a
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higher standard. she's one of the top presidential advisers and the daughter of the president in that role. the department of justice threw away almost half a century of precedent that nepitism is not allowed in the white house. people are going to be scrutinizing her closely. they should. this is a democracy. >> does it matter she gave the day-to-day running of the operation over to her sister-in-law and brother-in-law? >> that's absolutely meaningless. and from the start, you know, we're almost coming up on the one-year anniversary on which i gave a speech about how the trust the president set up is nothing. a trust is just a legal instrument to convey ownership to a trustee temporarily, if it's a revocable trust on your behalf. so it's still on your behalf. all the profits are coming to you. it's window dressing, at best. >> christina, is this the
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kardashianing of the white house? meaning brand. like just always pump the brand with whatever appearance you're doing, with all of your social media posts? >> i think that's what troubles people when they see this kind of activity. they don't want to be questioning whether or not the president or the first daughter is doing something for the brand instead of for the country. they don't want to have that question sort of ever present and to walter's point so long as they continue to own -- doesn't matter if it's in a trust, so long as they continue to own, they open themselves up to this kind of questioning. it's not going to go away so long as their ownership stays. to your point, you really can't separate ivanka from her brand. if you look at her web page for her products, it says it targets the working women who wears many hats. you look at her instagram feed from the white house and she's doing everything from putting her children to bed to talking about tax policy. it's very consistent with her actual brand on her website.
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>> walter, how about the president also making money from what's go iing on at mar-a-lago? they've doubled the initiation fee since the president became president to $200,000. obviously, that's a huge profit. and then he was charging lots of money to go to this new year's eve party at mar-a-lago. is that okay? >> these are related stories and none of these things are happening in a vacuum. what we're seeing across the board is an effort to monetize the presidency. no, it's not okay. he shouldn't have kept those assets in the first place. and the only reason people are paying higher membership fees or higher fees for the new year's eve party or above-market rates to stay in his hotel in washington is they want to purchase access to the president. and access to the president shouldn't be for sale to the wealthy people who can pay the price. >> alisyn, one thing that isn't covered much is that walter, while he was at the office of
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government ethics, actually warned the white house. he told them the president shouldn't be visiting his properties. and he was one of the first to come out and really raise the red flag and say, hey, this is providing access to people who pay for it. >> seems like that fell on deaf ears. >> yeah. >> walter shaub, cristina alesci, thank you for bringing this to our attention. to our international viewers, thank you for watching. for u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. we saw hundreds of arrest. >> shouting death to the dictator. >> it's very important that the trump administration not look like they're trying to foment trouble. >> sense of urgency is real and palpable in the region. we have to take it seriously. >> no one knows of any good options for dealing with north korea that doesn't involve china. >> we've got a chance here to deliver some fatal blows to really bad actors in 2018. but if we

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