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the table. >> the president has a big domestic agenda planned for 2018. >> the budget will have to be dealt with. >> we have border security and marry that up with the d.r.e.a.m. act. >> welcome to your "new day." it's tuesday, january 2nd. 8:00 in the east. chris is off and john berman is here. >> we were up until 10:00 to ring in the new year. >> wow, pop the champagne, everybody. we have a lot of news to get to, so let's get to it. president trump tweeting his support for the iranian people while declaring it's time for change in tehran. iran's supreme leader blaming the up rising on their, quote, enemies, and what does it mean for the iran nuclear deal. immigration, just a few legislative challenges for the white house. will the president get democrats
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and congress to work with him to try and get this agenda through? cnn covering every angle, and joe johns at the white house this morning. good morning. >> reporter: the president back here at the white house after the long holiday break. the congressional new year's as well as the administration trying to deal with a range of domestic issues that they postponed before they hit the road in december, however it's the international issues that are dominating the president's twitter feed. >> president trump returning to washington with a large legislative to-do list. in a range of international issues on his plate. >> everybody, we're taking this big beautiful ship and slowly turning it around. >> reporter: mr. trump weighing in multiple times over the holiday over the deadly anti-government protest in iran, and calling for change after
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warning the u.s. is watching closely for human rights violations. >> it's not enough to watch. president trump is tweeting very sympathetically to the iranian people, but you just can't tweet here, you have to layout a plan. >> iran's ambassador calling the tweets offensively. and as for kim jong-un's new year's threat that the nuclear button is on his desk, president trump saying only this. >> we'll see. we'll see. >> i don't see the opportunities to solve this diplomatically at this point. >> reporter: mr. trump accusing pakistan of lying and deceiving the united states in his first tweet of the year, and again alleging the leaders have gaven
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a safe haven to terrorists. >> we have been paying pakistan billions and billions of dollars at the same time they are housing the very terrorists we are fighting. >> reporter: a spokesman saying the u.s. will continue to withhold $255 million worth of military aid from the country. pakistan responding by summoning the u.s. ambassador for a meeting and responding saying shortly we will let the world know the truth. the first deadline back here in the u.s., a january 13th deadline to avert a government shutdown that could cost billions. one issue that will be front and center, protection for so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers that were brought to the country illegally as children. and the president insisting there will not be a deal on daca without funding for the wall, a nonstarter for democrats. >> will you give anything to the president on border wall funding
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in order to get a daca deal done -- >> no. >> reporter: the president's tweeting on iran continued this morning and he managed to get in a dig at his predecessor in the white house, there's the tweet, the people of iran are finally acting against the brutal and corrupt iranian regime, and all the money president obama so foolishly gave them went into terrorism in their pockets and they have little food and no human rights, and that's what the president is watching. back to you. south korea proposing high-level talks with north korea. the potential discussions unfolding after kim jong-un expressed interests in sending athletes to the winter olympics next month in south korea. what is going on here? >> there's an offer of a date to start these conversations with
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north korea. south korea today saying they have suggested january 9th, so that's next tuesday, for senior-level talks with the north koreans. they are suggesting they should take place at the demilitarized zone, the border village where negotiations have taken place in the past. we have not had any response from north korea at this point but certainly kim jong-un made it clear on new year's day that he appeared to be willing to not only send a delegation to the olympics but to talk to south korea to try and alleviate tensions on the peninsula, as he said. it's a very different message that he's giving to south korea than the united states. this nuclear defiance is still continuing with the united states. it's interesting that kim jong-un almost seems to be sidelining washington when it comes to these negotiations. one potential thought from experts is that this time last year north korean officials were
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suggesting there could be some kind of new relationship with a new trump administration, and that did not go well yesterday. there were penal insults being thrown between washington and pyongyang. china also saying that they are looking at this very positively thinking it's a good thing the two sides will be talking. john, alisyn, back to you. >> thank you for that reporting. let's bring in cnn political analysts ron brownstein and karl. it might create a wedge between the u.s. and south korea, and it might help de-escalate kim jong-un. how do you see it? >> well, look, you know, i think the experience is clear that most foreign policy problems are managed, not solved. they kind of wax and wane in the
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intensity of the dilemma or the threat at any given moment, and this is a positive development. south korea has always had a tilt further towards negotiation and discussion as opposed to the more confrontational rhetoric out of washington under president trump so there is the risk of more space opening between the two, and we have seen that at various points over the past year, but certainly anybody would welcome any kind of opening while understanding in the end it's unlikely to produce a denuclearization of the peninsula on its own. >> it is interesting to watch because of the last 24 hours we have seen the president talk about pakistan and iran, and his only response to what is going on in north korea and south korea is we'll see, we'll see, and there's no obvious response to the south and north setting up the discussions.
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>> right, it's not something you want to dissuade the south koreans from doing. look, the president has not shied away from using forceful rhetoric against the north koreans but it has been matched by coming out of the north korean ma seregime as well, and this is a moment for the president to hold back for the things he usually puts on twitter regarding the north korean leader, and it's possibly wise restraint for the week as they sit down and see if they can talk to each other. >> there's a common thread in this, whether it's pakistan or iran or north korea, the president in essence is arguing toughness will slice the gordon
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knot, and if you just kind of show, you know, if you are in a foreign country and people don't understand you so you talk louder, he applied that to diplomacy, if you affirm our position more strongly others will buckle to our leverage, might or wisdom, and as i said, most of these are problems we will manage and we are not going to solve, and so that is just not a reality that i think is very different than the twitter-style belligerence of the rhetoric. >> i see another thing, bucking with conventional wisdom, and if the wisdom said we must pay pakistan millions so they don't
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ret retaliate, and he could say, no, they are not being partners in terms of fighting terrorism. he's throwing out the playbook. how do you see it? >> yeah, there's a faction -- rand paul responded to the president saying, good, i have been asking for this for years. it's not a majority of congress. when you talk tough on pakistan you appeal to a certain subsection of the population, and when you talk tough on iran it's a way to address the iran deal and clearly what is happening in the streets of iran is because the economic promises that were supposed to result to the iran deal didn't happen, and whether it's his base or political issues he thinks works for him domestically talks about it. potentially, the foreign leaders, if it changes anything in the streets there, and remember, insofar as the american public is paying
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attention, iran and pakistan are new in a way, and what is happening there is not -- the president has been trying to make this tactic work on north korea for months now, and clearly it's not and things are moving in a different direction, and pakistan, he's using this medium to talk to the american public. >> the president begins meetings today or tomorrow for the agenda in january and everything, and where do you see the biggest fights, they have to do the spending deal and daca and c.h.i.p., and where is the biggest fight? >> the difficult reality, behind door number one we may not get what we want, which is the existing approach, and number two, we may not get that either because of the shaping events in other countries, and domestically the core issue is
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keeping the doors open and the lights on, and keeping the government open and avoiding a debt crisis, and daca and c.h.i.p., which is the health insurance program for kids of low income working families, and both of those have to be settled. in each case, particularly daca, you have the potential for significant divisions among republicans, and you have democrats, i think, frankly uncertain about how depressed is there leverage, and it's not clear who is pressuring who, and if democrats are envisioning using the threat of a shutdown to increase their leverage on daca, and the history of that is that a government shutdown does not give you the leverage you think and it may backfire. the clear and immediate challenge is to keep the ship moving forward, but in any of
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these that will shape 2018 is if paul ryan moves ahead on the promises or threats to rethink entitlement programs, particularly medicare, and that's the one remaining agenda item big enough to have a general impact on the mid-term election. >> that will be interesting to watch. we talked about the absurdity of when everybody wants a deal, and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and president trump wants a deal, and so it's going to be hard. everybody wants a fix but everybody has logger heads, it's the definition of washington. >> yeah, and republicans didn't like the idea of funding a border wall but the president has been firm he wants his border wall in exchange for
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daca. this is an election year, and 2018 mid-term elections, when you have the senate so close, 51-49, and the house is in play for months now, and you can't risk losing a section of your voting population that you might if you don't -- look, there are republicans running in states with large hispanic populations and there are other voter groups that care about the daca issue, and it can't turn into a self-inflicted wound. ron made the point you can't make this cleanly if you leverage the opening of the government but daca does not expire until march so there are other rounds to go to if they get past the january 18th spending bill. >> we talk about the stakes as we head into the mid-term election, which all of a sudden are actually this year. >> yeah, the last three times one party had unified control of
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the government, and gone into a mid-term election, the voters revoked unified control with obama and bush and with clinton. and today the ominous for the republicans, president trump's approval rating is lower than any of the other time the voters pulled back control. the economy is getting better and his approval rating may go up, but as long as the president's approval is somewhere around 40%, you have to say republicans are a high risk in the house at least in 2018. >> going to be an interesting year. thank you for the preview on all of this as we have been discussing. the clock is ticking as congress returns to washington. what will they tackle first on this very busy agenda? can there be any bipartisanship? we ask one republican congressman next.
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karen. careen. members of congress returning to capitol hill this week with a long list of things to tackle. let's bring in a republican congressman that can help us understand how this is all going to work. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. you are very optimistic. >> i am expecting a lot out of the five-minute segment from you. let's get to it. we have a graphic of all the issues you have to tackle in the next couple of months. number one, this is the can you are forever kicking down the road and you have two weeks to keep the government running. then, of course, there's what to do about the d.r.e.a.m.ers. and there's c.h.i.p., the program that protects the most
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vulnerable children in the country, and president trump still wants to deal with obamacare, and the mid-term elections. what do you want to start first? >> first thing first is to funding the government. appropriators are good with this, did it in april, very bipartisan and it has to be bipartisan, and takes 60 votes to pass the spending bill and the two parties has to work together. they have to agree on a top line number and after that we break it into 12 different bills and that's what funds the government and they have to agree on the top line and have not come to that agreement yet. >> this may be why optimism seems to be misplaced, because there are a lot of sticking points. how are you all going to get
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onboard? >> well, the way forward is obvious. republicans want to do a major defense buildup -- actually both parties voted for that, so there's going to be more money there above the cap level, and the democrats want in exchange for that to give money on the more nondefense side of discretionary spending, so that's the deal and they have to decide on the appropriate amounts, and the appropriators can get it done quickly once there's an agreement. the two parties are used to working together in the appropriations process but leaders have to agree to let the appropriators to do their job. >> let's talk about c.h.i.p. if you can't protect the most vulnerable children, and the sticking point for democrats seems to be the money not coming from this preventative care fund. why can't republicans just agree to keep funding that? >> well, they can and have so
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far. we have continued to fund it on a short-term basis. the house passed a bill, and i think it's a good bill. the senate has to pass a bill so we can go to conference. it doesn't have to be our bill but they have to come to an agreement and put together a bill and the two sides go to conference -- >> then what is the problem? >> look, there are rules they adopt, and they make it very difficult to move it forward. i respect that. it's up to them, but just get the job done, pass a bill. part of this was everybody was so focused on tax reform, and we get the importance of day-to-day government upbz. we passed it through the house and it will be a different bill out of the senate and you sit down and make a deal. it's not that hard. >> i like, again, your optimism in making it sound so simple.
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let's talk about the d.r.e.a.m.ers, because that's another one where all sides say there needs to be a fix for the kids brought here through no choice of their own. >> you are exactly right. >> but if the president insists on funding an actual wall as part of the deal, democrats say they can't go along with that? >> i don't know why you can't go along with border security. we can disagree about the wall but we had the largest increase in border security money in april in over a decade and we can do that again. in some places walls make sense and some places they may not, but they can make a big step in the right direction. i don't consider these young people a problem, and the issue with daca is because you didn't have border control in the first place, and they ought to get legal status in my view, but the obvious tradeoff is stronger border security, and the
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president is right on that one and democrats need to come around or they may decide they want a political issue, but in the meantime they are putting hundreds of thousands at risk that should not be at risk. >> when chuck schumer and nancy pelosi said they sat down and they thought they had a deal and later he inserted the funding with the border wall, and they felt sort of hoodwinked? >> i was not privy to that conversation, obviously, and can't speak to that directly but anybody thinks you are getting an immigration fix without border security is whistling past a graveyard. you need to do both at the same time. the devil is in the details in these things, and we managed to do this on a spending bill in april, and most democrats voted and we can do it again here and we have to sit down and each side has to not try to score political points but solve a problem. there's a lot of credit if they
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can just hit the sweet spot. >> i know you have thoughts on how to handle the domestic legislation but i have to ask you about everything blowing up internationally. and the president tweeted support for the iranian protests. what do you think he should do next? >> i think he was right to have done that and we need to get the europeans speaking up, we need to reimpose sanctions if they are brutal to their own people and we need to do what we can to facilitate communication as the regime and tehran shuts off things like twitter and the internet, but that's honestly the extent of it. the future of iran is really in the hands of the iranian people. we need to be supportive. they are trying to do the right thing, and frankly they are absolutely right to make the point this is a regime wasting billions on foreign terrorists
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activity, and those dollars should be improving the lives of the people, and hopefully somebody in tehran will wake up and decide it will be peaceful partners instead of raging wars against sunni states. >> thank you so much for being on "new day" this morning. >> thank you. president trump writing his support to democrat unstraighters in iran. we will ask a former diplomat, one of the americans held hostage in 1979, about the u.s. handling of the situation there. . your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
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blaming the country's enemies for stirring protests and unrest as the death toll rises. nick payton walsh is live for us. >> it's rare you hear from the iran's supreme leader, and in this case he made a statement to say the enemy is waiting for an opportunity for a flaw in which he can enter and goes on to blame those with the money, politics and i paraphrased
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there. over 400 arrests, and as you can see in the violent video there, it has claimed 21 lives there. the nine that died overnight, six were in one instance around a burning police station. really, many are scratching their heads. this is so unanticipated, and everybody knew about the economic woes, and the rwe have seen the hard-line oppressive response we have seen in 2009 in iran against protests there leaving many to wonder when would the more hard line face of iran's government be shown? it really isn't clear at this point exactly how the government
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of rouhani, it appears to be mostly spontaneous. there's some sympathy in government demands, and it's focused on how spontaneous it has been and more sadly focused on the violence that could continue or even get out of control. very hard to see how you can negotiate calm with a protest movement that doesn't have at this point a leader. >> joining us now, ambassador john limber, one of the 52 u.s. hostages held in tehran for 440 days when the embassy was taken over. we appreciate your expertise on this matter. what do you see as the driving force behind these protests in iran? what is going on there? >> john, it's diffuse.
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according to everything that i have read, it seems this started off as an internal squabble and an attempt by one faction to go after rouhani and to embarrass him and things got out of control so you had grievances, political and economic grievances, and protests about corruption, and all coming together, a kind of simmering resentment that had been there for a long time, and by starting off they opened up a pandora's box of troubles and what is remarkable is how widespread this is, and look at places -- these are small towns. we did not see this at all back in 2009. >> that was largely upper middle class demonstrations on the
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streets of tehran, thousands and thousands of people but not as geographically dispersed as we seeing right now. the iranian regime is how the president began his statement this morning. what is your take on the president's response so far? >> something like this, words matter and tone matters, and what we say, like it or not, is going to be carefully watched in iran. talking about regime change, talking about changes, i would be careful about that because you don't know where you are going to end up. not everyone in opposition to the islamic republic is desirable or democratic, or if they were to end up in power,
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bringing something better for the country, so i think these -- these things have to be measured. it feels good to denounce the islamic republic. a lot of people don't like it. i'm not a big fan of it either, so it feels good to denounce it, but in this case you have to ask yourself what are we trying to get to? what is the goal? >> as you know all too well personally, you know, iran has a way of surprising the united states, not just in 1979 but it's like almost every ten years there seems to be some kind of unforeseen event, protests or what not. how much control does the united states have, and how can the u.s. influence the situation? >> actually, i think very little. of course whatever we say or do the authorities there are going to blame us and they are going
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to call anybody who protests a foreign agent. that's why i thought rouhani's statement was interesting, it was daring in that context because he said they have a right to protest, and others will say they are foreign agents. the problem is the u.s., we don't have a great track record when we meddle in other peoples' eternal politics. as i said, some of these groups, some of these opposition groups who claim to be democratic are anything but. i think we have to be very, very careful in the way we approach something like this. i would say stick to principles. principles of decency, and principles of respect, and avoid by all means sermonizing. >> stand up for the right to protest in a broader sense that gives you space later on, maybe, to operate.
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all the iran nuclear deal has come up a lot over the last couple of days. people arguing on both sides. president trump and his allies saying this just goes to show that you shouldn't be striking deals with iran because of the oppressive regime, and on the other hand there are others that suggest that it's a failed promise of economic increases in a bettering of the situation for the people in iran that didn't happen after the nuclear deal that is causing these protests. what do you think? >> well, the nuclear agreement was about iran's nuclear program. it was never about democracy or human rights or treating people better. it would have been nice if it had, but that's not what it was. you can't say well it was a bad deal because the iranian regime is still not treating its people
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decently. that makes no sense at all. no. in terms of the economy, the iranian -- iran should be with its resources and oil and educated people, it should be a paradise. obviously anything but. it has not delivered, and you can argue the reasons, corruption, mismanagement, all of them are there and clearly that has created this resentment and unhappiness that we have seen so dramatically in the past few days. >> some people on the streets saying we see this money you are getting going to other places, to yemen, syria, and we want it here. great to have you here. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. back here, it's google versus amazon. how the battle between these two tech giants is impacting you. that's next.
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level talks with north korea next week, and welcoming their participation in the olympics next month, and this comes after a rare olive branch from kim jong-un expressing interest in sending a delegation to south korea. long delays at the airports because of an outage, and the outage not believed to be malicious. georgia versus alabama in next week's national championship. while the tide rolls -- >> i figured since it was in rotation marks. >> it's not real sugar. >> i don't like it as much. for more on the five things to know, go to cnn.com/newday for the latest. it could be an ugly battle and it could be affecting your
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devices at home. christine romans is in the money center to explain all that. >> happy new year. the newest feud, google fupulle its fire app. google pulled youtube out of amazon's echo in september, and amazon responded by yanking all google nest gadgets from its site, and now yanked fire tv. they both say they want to resolve these differences, but in the meantime the war between the companies have one clear loser, the customers. no google product is sold on amazon, and no amazon device can access the youtube app, and instead amazon directs customers
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to a web browser. one guy caught in the middle, john? >> kids. kids. >> they are being peculate about this. >> yes, they are. >> thank you. year one of the trump white house now in the books. will we see a more disciplined president in 2018. we'll get the bottom line, next. . even a swing set standoff. and we covered it, july first, twenty-fifteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ you feel better. introducing tommie copper's all new shoulder centric posture shirt. they're biggest breakthrough yet.
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president trump entering his second year in the white house with a lot to tackle. what will the president do in 2018? let's get the answer from cnn's political director, david chalian. happy new year, david. >> could you imagine if i actually knew the answer to that, alisyn? >> you are a professional tea leaf reader. what are you watching? >> first and foremost there are deadlines coming up that the president has to deal with immediately. we know they kicked the can down the road to fund the government, so avoiding a government shutdown first and foremost on the agenda, and in march you have a couple other deadlines. the daca program that the president had asked congress to sort of deal with by march for some of the daca recipients as well as the children's health insurance that got knocked to march as well. you are dealing with some of the most contentious areas,
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obamacare marketplace, and children's health insurance, and over all spending battles in the government, and that's in the first quarter of 2018, and sounds totally easy for this town to deal with that, right? >> some of it is within the next ten days there's a deadline. of all of those things you can see many breaking along party lines, and democrats will be in their own corner except when you are dealing with immigration, when you are talking about the d.r.e.a.m.ers, that may be the issue when you see divisions within the republican party and it's hard to tell where that one is going, david? >> yeah, we have seen that division play out in the republican party in the last ten years, certainly, and in full year for the last five years, and the debate stage that donald trump won, and there will be some republicans that want to get with democrats and work out a plan and other republicans
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will want to absolutely prevent that from happening. that's the sort of anti-daca reform republicans. that's where the trump base and energy is in the party that don't want to see much action there and that's why the president is demanding the border wall be part of the deal. >> all of this is set against the backdrop of the russia probe that continues, the investigations into whether or not what the connection was between donald trump's campaign and russia, and we now know that devin nunez, who had been sidelined as the chair of that investigation of the house is back and democrats say that he is blocking some of their efforts to get answers, so what are we going to see this month with all of that? >> the other indication is he's eager to wrap up the house intelligence investigation overall, which democrats have been screaming foul about not
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feeling like they completed their work. it's clear to anybody watching this president, when you want to go back to your first question about sort of what year two brings in store for donald trumps, and he's still clearly consumed by the mueller investigation and the house and senate investigations that hang over his administration. as long as they go on before they are concluded this president is clearly going to be distracted by them. >> look, he's writing messages on twitter this morning that we are not going to get into about james comey and he did an interview over vacation where he says robert mueller will be fair, he opens he will be fair. i'm very curious to see over the coming days how his republican allies, the ones who have been attack dogs, others who have been going after mueller how they react to that, and if they back off, and i am betting no and i am betting the president's message will not be consistent on this either. >> it has not been consistent
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over the last year. i think there's a good cop/bad cop situation going on here. he's playing nice with mueller for the moment, but the republicans are in a public relations war at this point to really try to undermine whatever mueller ends up with presenting to the public they want to make sure that that is politicized and brought into question and not just accepted as truth and fact. >> david, 2017, the news cycle was on steroids. it was like a breathless keeping up with the chaos of the news cycle and the various tweets and the various decisions and all of that. do you see 2018 being any different? >> human growth hormone. >> i don't. i think we should buckle up for what will be a politically tumultuous year and it's an election year as well, and that will ratchet up how each side
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presents their arguments, and each side will play for their home team a lot. and the thing you have to watch out for, if you want to understand, did donald trump learn something that he will apply to year two, and he ended the year with the legislative success on tax reform, and now the question is, is there something we will see the president learn from that and replies to future legislative issues beforehand, or was that a one off in the president's mind? i don't know the answer to that but i am looking to see what he informs us about that. >> what do you see democrats doing differently in 2018? >> democrats have learned the anti-trump energy in their party may actually be enough to make really significant gains. you saw -- that is what is fueling this turnout that we saw in virginia and new jersey and the alabama senate special election. this is a party galvanized by being opposed to the president
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right now. that may not solve the democrat's long-term problems in 2020 and running against president trump in an election race, but it may get them through 2018 mid-term year and could have an impact on how republicans fair this year. >> you have a busy year ahead of you, tkaeuf identidavid and mon to see you. "the good stuff" is next. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it's the best thing that ever happened to me. every great why needs a great how. ♪ ♪ there are two types of people in the world. those who fear the future... and those who embrace it. the future is for the unafraid.
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time for "the good stuff." marines from michigan finding dogs in rough shape while being deployed in afghanistan. >> we brought her back to our base and just kind of loved on her and gave her food from there. >> he says his platoon and another, which also found a dog, created fund-raising pages to bring the dogs back to michigan, and needed $4,000, and got it done in less than a week. this dog we are looking at should be in michigan by february. he is hoping to reunite with her this summer. >> look at the cute face right there. >> when you are overseas in situations like that, the animals there, they can bring you such joy and warmth in an otherwise cold situation.
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>> it's a real bonding experience. it's nice to be reunited soon. >> back in michigan, wherever dog wants to be. >> it's quite cold there right now. it's time for cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow. see you tomorrow. ♪ top of the hour, 9:00 a.m. eastern. good morning, everybody. i am poppy harlow. for his first order of business on his first workday of 2018 trump is taking on the leadership of iran. president obama and his own justice department. a lot to get to. let's get to joe johns. i hope you had a good break. what is the president up to this morning? >> reporter: i did, indeed. thank you very much, poppy. the fact of the matter is the president put out a couple tweets this morning, just a lot to unpack quite frankly. the first one coming down early this morning. the president restating some of the grievances
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