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commitment pay off. >> absolutely. whatever you have done is working. peggy gilligan, thank you. it is truly a success story. thank you very much for being here with us. >> thank you. >> thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn now is next. for the rest of you, cnn "new day" continues right now. a line of communication back open between north korea and south korea. >> we are skeptical of kim jong-un's sincerity in having talks. >> the president of the united states said my nuclear button is bigger than yours. >> it would be an insult to children. >> if he is speaking to american people, i think he is scaring is the crap out of them. >> does he believe the entire justice department and employees are in this deep state? >> obviously he doesn't believe the entire justice department is part of that. >> this is a really troubling attempt by our president to undermine the rule of law. >> what's on the president's
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mind? 16 tweets at the start of the new year. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". we begin with breaking news. north korea and south korea are talking. this border hotline has been set up between the two koreas. it is now open. kim jong-un is opening the line of communication and hoping to send a delegation to the olympics next month. >> the question that comes out of that is whether or not the president helped or hurt that situation with his most recent tweets and his most recent response to the unstable leader that gave a message that he that he has a nuclear button on his desk and ready to use. and president trump said his is bigger, more powerful and his works. >> they are raising questions about where his head is, whether
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he's focused in the right way or at all. let's go to paula hancocks live in seoul on the diplomatic breakthrough. years in the making, paula. >> reporter: chris, this is significant, the fact that the first phone call on the hotline was made for a couple years. it was closed back in february 2016. the phone call to start with came from north korea to south korea. this is at the dmz, demille tearized zone between north korea and south korea. 1:30 a.m. eastern. this is when the phone call came. it was a 20-minute call. we understand there wasn't a huge amount of dialogue. they were trying to make sure that it technically worked and there were no technical issues. the south koreans have called the hotline twice a day every single day since february 2016 to see if the north koreans would answer. they never did.
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what we have heard from the readout of the transcript. it is short. they have said effectively the south korea an official identified themselves. the north korean official identified themselves. that is all we have written down. there was no mention of the winter olympics. there was no mention of future talks. really to sort out the technical issues on the hotline. a second phone call at 4:07 eastern. the question is let's call it a day. this is interesting. the south korea is ans said we will wait for your next phone call. the north koreans phoned to say let's call it a day. that is 6:00 p.m. local time. that was the end of the north korean day. not a huge amount of dialogue but significant nonetheless. >> they hadn't spoken in years. it is an armistice. there is no peace there. this is not like normal
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relations between countries. thank you very much. appreciate it. let's discuss the implications with gordan chang, "nuclear showdown. north korea takes on the world." gordon, what is your reaction to negotiate and south korea talki talking. >> i think one of the things we would be talking about if it were not for president trump's second tweet is that the sanctions are really starting to bi bite. we know that because he gave several hits that the country was hurting. that's a really important message. also, you have to remember that nikki haley, our u.n. ambassador spoke in the u.n. outlining the u.s. position. we would be talking about that. so right now the problem i think is essentially the united
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states, in the form of president trump, stepping on a very good story when we need support from the rest of the world. >> nikki haley said the u.s. won't accept a nuclear north korea. which seems to be, you know, a statement that is a little bit horse is out of the barn. but still, that's their statement. and she said that this will be a hard line position for them. that takes to the big question. do you think the president's tough talk has helped push the situation to where it is right now with north korea reaching out to south korea. >> north korea doesn't open the channels of dialogue because it wants peace on earth. >> i said before that, the president's second tweet didn't help. how do we know? how do we know? i get people criticize the style of the tweets and his manner? how do we know the tough talk
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isn't working? >> we know his policies in general are working. we are seeing anecdotal evidence, all sorts of things indicating the regime is hurting. that is a result of president trump's policy to cut off money flows to north korea so kim jong-un can't launch missiles or detonate nukes. he needs the help of the international community in this. he doesn't get it when he mentions things like button size. >> why not? why does that kind of tweet, as silly as it may sound to people, why doesn't that help with allies? >> well, we're going to need to have some pretty tough conversations with the south koreans in the next few days. because although it's okay for them to talk to north korea, it is not okay for the south koreans to do what they want, which is really to shovel a lot of money into the coffers of kim jong-un. the president of south korea has
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indicated, for instance, he wants to reopen the industrial zone which was closed in february 2016. so the date of the last communication on the hotline, that is not a coincidence. now, we don't want the reopening of that zone because that does undercut sanctions. this is going to be a very difficult conversation. it doesn't happen when they look at our president and say, you're just a 13-year-old. this is important to us. with regard to the chinese and russians, we have to back them away from north korea. it doesn't help when they don't respect us. and certainly what the president's second tweet yesterday did is lessen the respect for the united states in general and for president trump himself in particular. >> so it will be interesting to see what the president says about diplomacy from this point going forward in that region because he has dismissed it in the past. now it seems to be critical to
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everything. gordon chang, thank you very much. thank you for being on the show. >> that reopening communications came hours after president trump launched that eye breaux-raising tweet, bragging his nuclear button is bigger than kim jong-un's. that was just one peck tweet. what's happening, joe? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. so far no word from the white house if the president will comment about the latest developments in the communication lines opening between north korea and south korea. meanwhile, the nuke slinging war of words between the president of the united states and the leader of north korea has certainly gotten off to a robust start this new year with some of the harshest rhetoric we have heard from the president since last summer. president trump taunting north korean dictator kim jong-un over
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the size of america's nuclear arsenal, asserting his is much bigger and more powerful than north korea's, before threatening that the u.s. button works. mr. trump lashing out after kim jong-un bragged that the u.s. is in range of a north korea strike. the ratcheting up of tensions raising alarm. >> there are potentially millions of lives at stake, untold death and destruction here. to me it is very disturbing. >> no one in the white house knows what is un's ignition point where one of these tweets is going to set him off and he will hit the button. >> reporter: president trump mocking kim jong-un with the name rocket man. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself. >> reporter: the president responding after south korea showed an eagerness to opening up talks with its north korean neighbor. >> north korea can talk with anyone they want. but the u.s. is not going to recognize it or acknowledge it until they agree to ban the nuclear weapons. >> reporter: the tweets about north korea, 2 of 16 messages
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the president sent on a range of on unrelated topics during his first day back in the oval office after the holiday break. mr. trump began the day attacking his own justice department as a deep state referencing a conspiracy theory. >> obviously he doesn't believe the entire justice department is part of that. >> reporter: the president going after top hillary clinton aide huma abedin, saying she should be jailed over her handling of state department e-mails despite the fact that after an fbi investigation she has not been charged with a crime. and president trump urging the justice department to act. in prosecuting former fbi director james comey fired by the president last may. >> when i decide to just do it i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. >> reporter: other targets of the president's twitter attacks, "new york times", former president barack obama, pakistan, iran and the palestinians, who mr. trump threatened not to give future funding if they do not rejoin
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peace talks. president trump taking credit for a record year of safety and commercial aviation without citing any measures his administration has implemented. >> it really doesn't matter what the president of the united states says anymore. it is so bizarre, strange, not true, infantile. >> reporter: the president gets his intelligence briefing today. he is expected to have lunch with the secretaries of state and defense. these are meetings that will be all the more interesting given the back and forth between north korea and south korea. back to you. >> yes, they will be interesting. thank you very much, joe. here to discuss all the headlines and what's going on inside the white house is cnn political analyst maggie haberman. happy new year, maggie. great to see you. >> happy new year. >> spoiler alert, 2018 is not shaping up to be different than 2017. it is shocking that the twitter storm continues a pace in just
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the first day back. we can put it up. here are the things the president tweeted about. kim jong-un, former fbi director comey, former president barack obama, former clinton aide huma abedin, iran, the justice department who is referred to as the state deep state, and the "new york times". so what's going on inside the white house? >> that is a pretty long list, right? because it is twitter, everything sounds winds up soun exactly the same. it is a 2016-2017 issue. everything gets treated with the same level of 140 to 280 character remedy. and everything does not deserve the same thing. what's going on in the white house, according to a bunch of people i have talked to. he had a very long vacation at mar-a-lago, the second in a row after thanksgiving where he was not really staffed.
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he was basically by himself, which means he got to act as if he wasn't president. he got to hang out at his club. he got to talk to people he has known for decades. now he is back with many problems, many predictions. 2018 will be difficult legislatively for the white house. >> that means what, he is anxious when he gets back to the white house, relaxed? what's the mind set? >> one of the biggest questions is does he like the job? that is the thing we all hear people ask repeatedly. on days like yesterday where you see 10 tweets in a row, there is clearly some level of discomfort going on. >> can you imagine being the man or woman next to him when he starts tweeting. it is almost a helpless position. they can leave. their accountability is the american people f. they can't serve their interests, he should get the hell out. he is who he is. that's who he was before the president. this is who he is now.
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it matters differently now with the message about the button. we have seen him tweet that 100 times in the past 25 years. but now it matters more. it hasn't mattered surrendering the me to the we. >> that is very well put. he conflates himself with the institutions he represents and doesn't see them independent of him. there is very the state is me. and he acts as a by stander. he acts as if he is a fox news viewer who is tweeting what he sees on tv. there are implications to these tweets. that is why the con standpoint protests of ignore the tweets. they are a planned distraction. no, they are not a planned distraction. he does not tend to plan more than a couple of minutes out. i don't know how you ignore statements from the president of the united states, especially when it comes to a matter of nuclear war, which he is treating pretty unseriously. >> like someone who hasn't been
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informed of the implications. like someone on my twitter feed. it sounds like someone is going to be late for work because they're watching the show. >> on one hand you appreciate that. >> forget him. that guy is an idiot. that's america being strong. that's what i expect here. we're getting it from our president. >> we know john kelly, the new chief of staff, who has -- morale is not great in the west wing for a variety of reasons. he has brought a greater level of control. i mentioned the president was unstaffed the last two long trips he took. a year ago people were clamoring to get next to him on the plane to go to mar-a-lago. being close to him is no longer seen as a clear path toward getting something done or getting what you want or influencing him. what john kelly has tried not to do, no matter how powerful he is over the rest of the building
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and over aspects of the president's life. his schedule, friendships, executive orders and so forth, he has not tried to control the tweets. well, he has at certain points. but he has not gone really past where he was early on because he decided it was a losing battle. it is a losing battle that matters. >> against all of this, the back drop of russia. and we know, i think, we can tell that causes the president some stress and anxiety. but now there is all of this new information including the men behind fusion gps. people are like what is fusion gps? they are journalists. two men in 2011 started this research firm fusion gps which is at the crux of what is happening with the russia investigation and the dossier. they have written an op ed for the "new york times". it tells us all sorts of information we didn't know. at least the lawmakers on the right such as congressman jim jordan are saying they didn't know or pretending they didn't
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know. for instance, here's what they say behind fusion gps. we don't believe the chris officer stpaoel dossier was the trigger into russian meddling. as we told the senate judiciary committee under oath, the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau received from other sources, including one inside the trump camp. as we know from this weekend, that's george papadopoulos, who was loose lipped and spoke drunkenly at a bar to an australian diplomat who was alarmed that the russians had dirt on hillary clinton. when he saw it come out in this cache of e-mails, alerted of it. it makes it less like to to believe the president saying it is a witch-hunt. >> unless you disregard whatever new information you're hearing and just believe what the president says. two things i think about having read that op ed.
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it is a remarkable moment where everything literally has to be sort is of laid out publicly because it is the only way to convince even some people that it is the only way to convince some people. sit not going to convince everybody. there is a huge desire to choose your own venture on news, in both parties. not just the province of one or the other. and both media environments among partisans. so i think it's interesting. i think that it is certainly -- it ties into what the "new york times" reported over the weekend. >> just lawmakers. i think lawmakers are tasked with having to follow the facts. >> sure. >> as we are as journalists. >> yeah. >> i understand people's echo chambers. jim door dan can't come on with a convincing argument that he has a hunch -- >> you can take it in different directions. i would question the proposition that they are tied into the facts. they are in the spin businesses, exclusion business.
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there's gray areas. unverified stuff in the dossier. and then there's a larger issue that they're attacking. >> and the president is helping with that in a way we have never seen in american history and certainly in our lifetime. >> that's right. >> and what is that? >> he is saying the justice department is part of the deep state. it is easy to say but means almost nothing. you have to go and google it. it is where people want to go for their own political agendas. but for the president of the united states to say the department of justice, now staffed with all of his people, is part of a deep state conspiracy against him, that's not just trump being trump. >> no. >> that is not just hot talk, him being unprofessional. that's dangerous and wrong. >> it is is dangerous for several reasons. among them, people are tasked with -- this is major law enforcement. they are tasked with all kinds of things, including anti-terrorism. if you have a demoralization of the folks who work there because
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they feel attacked by the commander in chief, that is deeply problematic. you see it every day. sarah sanders, the press secretary, says of course he doesn't mean everybody. and maybe he doesn't. that's why most people err on the side of not saying things like that. that is i think a huge problem. the other thing you raised, by the way, about members of congress and their assistants in terms of pursuing the facts. one of the things we have seen over the last several months is growing anger at the media from the left who want to see the president quote, unquote held accountable. the "times" has been doing rigorous journalism about the white house, about regulations, about the way the president's administration has conducted itself. it is not the job of reporters to stand up and say, how dare you, sir. that is where congress is actually the only entity that exists to do that. they are trying to get reporters to do that instead. >> i hear it all the time.
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wring their necks. >> the fifth amendment, look at that more. you hear that on the left. that is a political operation as much as anything else. >> thank you. >> thanks, guys. >> great to talk to you. how is the president's taunting tweet raising the prospect of nuclear war? how is it received among lawmakers we are talking about? the ranking democrat on the senate foreign realizes committee joins us next. what is he prepared to say? next. ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words.
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should be simple, fast, and easy. download the xfinity my account app or go online today. president trump upping the ante with kim jong-un on twitter saying his nuclear button is much bigger and more powerful. senator ben cardin is the ranking democrat on the foreign relations committee. senator, happy new year. thank you for being on the show. >> good morning, chris. good to be with you. >> so the headline from the morning of fact is north korea and south korea are talking again. that is a big development.
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it's years in the making. do you believe that the president's tweeting and posture towards north korea has helped make this happen? >> no. i think it's made it more difficult. we're very happy to say there's conversations taking place between north korea and south korea. we need diplomacy between the united states, china, and north korea to supplement that or lead that. the president's tweets have made it more difficult for diplomacy to work. we know that the only reasonable solution to the north korean crisis is through diplomacy. and the president's tweets make that more challenging. >> how do we know, senator? look, we don't have enough time to sit through and talk about does the president always tell the truth? no. are his tweets and statements always delicate and presidential? of course not. how do we know the tough talk didn't move them to the table in conjunction with the sanctions.
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>> we know they were on back channels with diplomacy. as he was making progress, the president under cut his own secretary of state by saying why bother wasting time with diplomacy. the president has already made it more challenging at times when he could have advanced diplomacy. look, the only off-ramp is china and the united states have a common strategy as to what is acceptable in starting the negotiations with north korea. because china puts the pressure on north korea to come to the table. that's where you're going to see diplomacy really work. and the president has made that more challenging both with his tweets and also in his conversations with china. >> i want to get to daca. why do you think the obama administration wasn't ale to get north korea on the phone with south korea and this administration was? >> i think the opportunity of the olympics was one. i think there's a new administration in south korea. a lot of factors have changed since president obama.
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north korea has a functioning nuclear weapon. they have a delivery system. we don't know how effective the delivery of that is. now, under president trump's watch, north korea has an effective nuclear weapon. we need to deal with that. and the best way to deal with that is a surge in diplomacy. the president has made that very challenging. >> let's take a turn, a topic sensitive back here at home. put up the president's tweets about daca. democrats are doing nothing for daca. just interested in politics. daca activists and hispanics will go against dems will start falling in love. is that true? they are not trying to negotiate a deal for what to do with these people who are stuck in the lurch because of the rescission of this policy. >> well, nothing could be
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further from the truth. the president gave a six-month deadline that ends in march in which the daca registered to d.r.e.a.m.ers will be. their future is uncertain. some already felt the consequences of that. the president created the problem. number two, if we had a vote on the floor of the senate or house, we have the votes to pass a bill that protects the dreamers. but the republican leadership is refusing to bring up that legislation. >> mcconnell says he will bring up a vote in january if a deal can get done. is that true? >> that was a big if. what's the deal that they want? what's the cost of producting the dre protecting the d.r.e.a.m.ers. it would easily pass. what the republican leader is talking about is combining of other things that may make it more challenging. >> will you give trump the wall to get daca done?
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>> a wall makes no sense. he said mexico would pay for it. mexico is not going to pay for it. it's counterproductive. it causes us problems with mexico's cooperation on drug and human trafficking. it is offensive to land owners on the southern border. there's so many problems with a wall. will we give additional resources for border security? yes. because border security makes sense. that is technology. it isn't a wall. >> senator, one thing we know for sure, that deadline is coming. we're done with the first three months. we have less than three months to go on it. and lives will be very badly effective if nothing is done. let's see what you can get done down there for those people. >> i agree with you. thank you, chris. >> thank you. alisyn. okay. for the first time in two years, the north korea and south korea are talking. what does that mean?
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has been reopened this morning. u.n. ambassador nikki haley dismissed this as having much impact on the u.s. >> north korea can talk with anyone they want. but the u.s. is not going to recognize it or acknowledge it until they agree to ban the nuclear weapons they have. >> at the same time, president trump tweeted an eyebrow-raising tweet. he said i too have a nuclear button, but it is much bigger and more powerful one than his, meaning kim jong-un, and my button works. joining us now is the president of the eurasia group ian bremmer and phillip mudd. great to have both of you. this is huge, yes? >> it's a break through. another break through. sanctions supported by everyone, including the chinese. >> it worked. >> it had impact in my view. give credit to trump for some of that stuff. >> the sanctions had teeth.
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kim jong is unis hurting. he needs south korea is's help now. >> yeah. now let's be clear that the south korea is ans are working with north korea more closely, or want to, in large part because they're scared. trump's america first policy is not in any way a south korea first policy. the south korea is ans will be aligned more with china, cut their own deal with pyongyang. >> why is that a big deal? why is a wedge between south korea and the u.s. and south korea realigning away towards china, what's the represent cushion for the u.s.? >> there are two. one is if trump isn't able to come to terms with the fact that that's okay and the united states isn't going to go to war against north korea. so he is going to have to pivot at some point. america needs to be a part of the ally. we don't want to do a military exercise with you because that's not part of the deal we lost an
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important ally. china, where is their economy going to turn? their internets, where will they be sinked up with? it is a world we profit from. trump's policies frequently have impact tactically but long term, when he's gone, when he's no longer president -- i know in the united states we don't do long terms, our corporations nor our election cycle, this is one our kids aren't going to profit from. >> phil mudd, how do you see all the shifting sands? >> ian bremmer nailed it. there is a carrot and stick. i think the trump people deserve credit, as did obama people. sanctions on the north korea is part of what brought them to the table. we don't understand north korea.
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clearly there is a reason they picked up the phone. the second piece of this is what we head into now. that is where is the carrot here? presumably you want a more stable relationship with the north koreans. isolated north korea means in stability, which is not good for america. the only way to bring stability is to have a conversation with them. so are we in that conversation or out? if we're out, do we choose to allow the chinese, russians, south koreans to proceed without us? this is what trump people did on climate change. if you don't participate, the world will move ahead without you. i think that's what the tweets suggest. >> let's talk about the tweets for a second. the president tweeted about him having a bigger button. i guess that is a euphemism for big hands. do you think this is a problem diplomatically, these kinds of tweets. >> less than the media does. i understand why the media covers it. it is entertaining. >> it's not just entertaining.
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it is also peculiar to hear your president speaking like a 10-year-old. >> it's not surprising. he does it all the time. it doesn't merit the breathless headlines it continues to get. >> only if there is a ripple effect from it. is he entertained by this? or is it more likely to hit. >> there is a reason why we no longer cover the breathless pop gran da, some of the most artfully written. i agree trump has a bigger button. but kim jong-un has better proof began da. you can follow it on twitter. most people don't. because after a couple of years of it we recognize, well, it's not really moving the needle. >> you see the tweets as the same way? >> sure. when i talk to foreign leaders, they are not hanging on the tweets like they respond. they are reacting to trump's pretty solid national security team. is tillerson going to be there in a few months or not.
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much less so the tweets. i get why the media does it. it is entertaining. it drives people to pay attention to what we're saying. on north korea in particular, as i have said, we are increasingly out of the conversation. if we're saying, no, not like tillerson. we aerpbt going to talk to these people, as nikki haley said, we're taking ourselves out of the conversation. and that long term means china will be pulling much more of the triggers. >> phil, how do you see the president's big button? >> i think there's a couple ways to look at this. why do we take it seriously? this is remarkable about a president making public statements. do we assume the americans won't show up at the table? that must mean we don't believe in talks. i suspect one of the conversations is we might show
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up at the table regardless of what the president said. the final thing i would say on this, this is an advantage for the north koreans. if they're talking to the russians and the chinese who might be saying you need to slow down a bit. i would say why slow down? the president threatens me every day. my only solution is to condition with my missile and nuclear campaign. >> you see it as having a direct effect, not just having power. >> i don't see how anything coming from the president could be just entertainment value. just doesn't make sense is. always an interesting debate. how about this, cold snap gripping much of the nation. now a monster storm moving up the east coast. this will happen. how bad and where? details ahead.
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all right. nobody likes the cold, but it's going to get a lot worse than just temperature. especially for new england. people there are bracing for a powerful nor'easter. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray is at the cnn center wr moith m. who gets it and how bad? >> it is starting to develop now. folks in florida and georgia are getting it now. the purple is an icy mix.
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i-10 shut down in both directions east of tallahassee for 50 miles. a burst of snow in the bottom of the boot of louisiana. that doesn't happen very often. this is going to get its act together the next 24 hours. we will see a wintry mix and even snowfall across the low country, on into north carolina. by the time it gets into northern new england, we are going to see a powerful nor'easter. this is going to intensify rapidly. we could see a foot or more of snowfall in places outside of boston, even in northern maine. new york city could see an inch or two. we could see an inch or two of snow in philadelphia. along with that, you will have very powerful winds. a lot of these along the coast, we have ice chunks. that could impact the coastline as well. here are your latest snowfall totals expected during the storm. the brunt of it is is supposed to hit by friday. >> okay. very good information for all of us to have, jennifer. thank you so much.
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now to this. in peru, a horrifying bus crash that killed 48 people. the transport chief said a transport trailer rammed the back of a bus forcing it to fall off the cliff known as devil's curve. an initial investigation shows both vehicles were traveling too fast. in new york city, we now know they will install 1500 protective barriers in high-profile locations. it is a response to a disturbing but growing trend of cars being used as lethal weapons by terrorists. you'll remember back in october eight people were murdered. nearly a dozen injured when a man drove a rented pickup truck down a busy bicycle path near the world trade center. the top prize for friday night's mega millions goes up to $418 million. and if that's not enough cash for you, tonight's powerball jackpot is expected to top $440
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million. the odds of winning both the mega millions and the powerball are 88 quadrillion to one. >> you're saying i have a chance. >> you have a chance. i have never said that number before. >> so this is the weird time that we here on "new day" as a family decide to put our money in anden trust it all to a man who we would trust with nothing else. >> he doesn't know we are making fun of him. >> he's asleep. somebody will tell him and he will be angry later. >> that wasn't even our kicker. here's our kicker. listen. watch this. not being perfect puts you into jeopardy on "jeopardy." take it from contestant nick spiker. his jeopardy answer counted for a minute before being taken back. why this. >> a song by cooli i don't from dangerous minds goes back in
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time to become a 1667 classic. >> what is gangster's paradise lost. >> yes. our judges have reevaluated a response. you said gangsters instead of gangstas. so we take 3,200 away from you. so you are now in second place. >> alex should never say gassta. >> he didn't make it past the cracker police. i would sue. i would sue. >> on the website, judges explained that gangsta and gangster are list said separately in the oxford english ea dictionary. he still came on top at the end of the show, thank goodness. for the record, coolio said he would have counted the answer. >> of course he would.
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the "me too" movement giving voice to the real problem of sexual harassment and abuse. how will the world of politics continue to address this issue in 2018 and how does it help all women in the country and throughout the world? joining us now is michelle turner, and cnn legal analyst, areeva martin. in 2018 it seems like there will be a call to action, people are banding together, and it's where do we go from here. there are groups on both sides of the political spectrum, there are high profile right-wing bloggers, and left-wing activist, and they are beginning
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to offer money to women or men, i suppose, that will come forward with stories against, say, sitting congress people. if you take money for your story does that kill your credibility? >> i don't think so. as long as your story is not made up i am not overly concerned about people needing and taking money to help them finance lawsuits against men who have abused them. i think we are getting hung up on some of the details when the issue is did the action occur? if a woman was abused, she has every right to come forward and pursue that, and we know powerful men have been able to silence women, because they have more money and can prevent women from telling their stories. if somebody comes forward and says i can help you finance your
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legitimate lawsuit, i am not overly concerned about that as long as the story is true. >> i understand what you are saying. just one more beat on this, what if there is no lawsuit, what if they just get paid, the statue of limitations passed, and they are just paid to publicize their story then, do you feel differently then? >> no, that's how movies are made and books are written, but the question is, is it a valid story. as long as it's true i think it's important because these stories is what is fueling the cultural change that we have experienced in 2017, and continues in 2018. without the stories we would not be having the national conversation or changing the balance of power and creating safe work spaces for women. >> one of the questions in 2017,
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after all of the high-proactresses came out, it was like, what is next? harvey weinstein falls in this epic way. then 1,000 women in entertainment in hollywood, the likes of -- let me read some of the names, jennifer aniston, meryl streep, and they have raised $13 million fund to help women with their cases of sexual harassment. tell us what we need to know what is going on in hollywood? >> the question i had been asking whether it's on red carpets or in interviews since this all happened is what is next, how do we take this conversation and move forward? i asked oprah, she said, believe
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me, we are doing something. what they have done is come up with a times up campaign, and the entertainment industry group of women said enough is enough, and they created a legal defense fund with women in blue collar jobs that want to come forward and tell their stories of harassment and abuse and they are giving some breath to that, and they are creating different sub groups, one of them called 50/50 by 20/20, where they are pressuring women to be half of the leadership by 2020, and they are having workshops and meeting weekly to try and get their strategy together so they can move forward as a unified group. all the women are going to come
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out and wear black as a statement at the golden globes, and they are going to take that opportunity on the red carpet to not talk about fashion but how to root this out in hollywood. they still have galvanizing things to do. they are really starting to take their words and make it into action, and i applaud all of these women for doing that. >> they are putting their money where their mouth is, and people questioned if it was a watershed moment in time and it seems as though 2018 is going to be that. thank you both very much and we will obviously continue this conversation. >> thanks, alisyn. we are following a lot of news so let's get to it. >> a break through between south korea and kim jong-un. >> what he tried to do was get the u.s. off the peninsula so he
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can intimidate south korea. >> he's not going to get kim jong-un have the last word on what it means to have nuclear weapons. >> this is not a game. we're talking about nuclear war here. >> you have a president just tweeting out utter madness. >> in a tweet the president blasting the doj for what he calls the deep state. >> his tweets will be taken as official policy. >> it's not good to address international engagement issues on twitter. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> it's january 3rd, 8:00 in the east. turns out north and south korea are talking on a border hotline. it has happened twice. this will be the first time in nearly two years
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