parents. parents should be monitoring all of this. >> it's not easy. >> they don't feel the tech companies give them the tools they need. i would like to be able to schult my kids's phone off. >> it is like an odometer. i don't know how much they're on youtube. is it that easy? >> i'm sure they are on more than you think they are. >> it's a problem. i'm glad someone is doing something. >> thanks for joining is us. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts right now. it's all about oprah. >> his two greatest assets have been his mental stability and being, like, really smart. >> i have no reason to question it. >> plainly, we have a seriously flawed human being in the oval office. >> the allegations in this book are nothing but a pile of trash. >> we also saw steve bannon apologize as he slammed donald jr. as treasonous. >> i don't think this will immediately solve is the feud

between him and the president. >> actresses wearing all black at the golden globes in solidarity with the me too movement. >> this is such a bold statement to make. >> the "new day" is on the horizon! >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> you know, you can forget about oprah's magic because she's been off the air for a while. but when i watch that again, it all comes back. she has this way of talking that grabs you and is poignant and conversational. i was tearing up. so we'll play some of it for you. >> timing is everything. oprah was in the right place at the right time last night. the golden globes were about way more than just the ordinary awards. we'll get you there. welcome to you viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". it is monday, january 8th, 6:00 in new york. starting line. trump officials are coming to president trump's defense. judge for yourself if they are helping oren couraging more

questions about the president's mental state. mr. trump, once again, helping to fuel the controversy tweeting that he is, quote, a very stable genius. one of the president's top advisers sparring with jake tapper calling this book, "fire and fury", trash, and slamming the former chief strategist as someone who has, quote, lost his mind. the president's ire does seem to have shaken steve bannon, who is reexpressing regret. he said his treasonous comment was only meant for manafort not don jr. >> and the president's official schedule in the white house is getting shorteder. the report says president trump does not show up until about 11:00 a.m., which means more time in the residence making tv, making phone calls and tweeting. oprah winfrey stealing the

show with her speech on the me too movement and a call to action. and she could run for president in 2020. joe johns live at the white house. joe? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. a somewhat predictable response from the president, subordinates in the administration, as well as his political allies to questions raised about his fitness to serve. questions that started on friday, continued through the camp david summit, and moved all the way to the sunday shows, the fallout from that book. >> no one questions the stability of the president. >> president trump is completely capable. >> the reality is the president is a political genius. >> reporter: members of president trump's administration coming to his defense, insisting that mr. trump is fit to serve despite questions about his

mental stability raised in the new tell-all book fiery and fury. >> i have never questionsed his mental fitness. i have no reason to question his mental fitness. >> reporter: declaring throughout my life my two greatest assets tphave been menl stablts and being, like, really smart. when answering this when asked about why weigh in. >> i went to the best colleges or college. i had a situation where i was a very excellent student. came out and made billions and billions of dollars. ran for president one time and won. and i hear this guy who doesn't know me, did not know me at all, said he spinterviewed me for the hours. it didn't exist. it's in his imagination. >> reporter: and continue to go attack "fire and fury" author

michael wolff. >> it is a disgrace that someone is able to do something like that. the libel laws are weak in this country. if it were strong, you wouldn't have things like that happen. >> reporter: wolff standing by his reporting, saying his mental fitness is regularly discussed amongst aides, along with the 25th amendment which spells out the removal of a president. >> the 25th amendment is a concept that is alive every day in the white house. >> reporter: steven miller also taking aim at the president's former chief strategist steve bannon who was quoted in the book, calling the 2016 trump tower meeting between trump campaign staffers and russians treesous. >> it is unfortunate and tragic that steve would make these grotesque comments so vindictive. the whole white house staff is deeply disappointed.

>> reporter: he insisted his remarks were aimed at paul manafort, not don jr. and praising the president's son as both a patriot and a good man. a source said bannon drafted a similar statement that he had planned to release before the president attacked him saying he had lost his mind. today the president travels first to nashville to speak to the concerns of farmers and rural americans apparently tennessee senator bob corker, who has been highly critical of the president, is expected to make the trip with him. after that, the president goes on to see the college football national championship. chris and alisyn, back to you. >> joe johns, appreciate it. joining us now, john avlon, real clear politics a.b. stoddard. i don't know if you caught it in there, john, but another little dig at the first amendment by the president saying our libel laws are weak, demonstrably false, the envy of this universe

is the way we treat the first amendment. anybody who travels the world knows that. a little bit of a nod to maybe hoping we can get laws back that we had in the 1700s where it is wrong to criticize the government. what do you make of his defense so far to what happened in the book? >> the laws didn't work out for john adams. one-term president. keep that in mind. freedom of press is something the president is uncomfortable with. now he is confronting it in terms of michael wolff. saturday morning that tweet storm, he's got the relationship leadership at camp david, he opens up the day with this tweet storm that culminates with calling himself a very stable genius. when you call yourself very stable genius, it is evidence of either. it is insecurity and opposite of presidential. this is the tone and tenor, validating the tone and tenor of the book.

the fact that he said the 25th amendment is being discussed is not resume nated. >> so, a.b., steve bannon has gotten a lot of attention. and the book has gotten his attention, as well as all the backlash to it. now he issued this statement to the "new york times", interestingly, in which he said he wasn't referring to don jr. as treasonous and unpatriotic, he was referring to paul manafort that way. he starts the statement by saying donald trump jr. is both a patriot and a good man. i don't know if you could have it both ways. saying the meeting he held with the russian lawyer where he said i love the dirt on hillary allows him to be a patriot and good man going the a treasonous

meeting. >> i was really stunned by this bannon retreat. because it was so tooly. he basically did it after his job at breitbart is in question. all of this billionaire backing of his resurgent revolution to knock off all of these renin couple bentz in the establishment is now withering away. the president is on the phone demanding people take a black and whiteside against steve bannon and on tv and jump all over him. the idea that he would wait all these days to come out and say it is really about paul manafort. don jr. is a patriot. in the statement he tried to say as a naval officer who spent his career trying to sort of take on, you know, as a country the soviets, you know, he was offended by the fact that, you know, by the terms of this

meeting. it just is too late and it's really -- it's obviously desperation. it's not going to help them. >> you're right. the statement released to axios shows he is over his head. he is irrelevant, luckily for now, put to the side. the same level of confused tensions and how to deal is coming from the white house as well. while with we can dismiss bannon, you can't dismiss the white house. sending people out yesterday or the guise of saying what really matters is the working man and woman. that's great. we wish it were reflected in what they had gotten done in government so far. opportunities to go out and address the american people and media about what's going on. we're all entirely dedicated to say the president is a genius. >> he is a genius and total ly

stable. miller is not the best surrogate in the administration. he is very close to what passes for a brain tuft. he now apparently is willing to say anything to get in the president's good graces. where jake nailed him is saying you're speaking to an audience of one. you keep reaffirming to what a genius the president is. there is only one person in the world who needs to hear that repeatedly. and jake said, look, this is a real no spin zone, not a fake one. we're going on to take that on and we're done here. that was a serious moment and it really resonated. that was a terrible degree of service. they're not thinking about the larger communication strategy. they are thinking about one man's ego. >> it is interesting to go back in time and look at donald trump's tweets since before he was president and what he was focused on. he was focused on president obama's mental health. i am starting to think that there is something serious wrong

with president obama's mental health. why won't he stop the flights. psycho! this was the ebola thing, flights coming from affect. >> there's a tweet for everything. >> there is an old tweet for everything. so him saying, you know, it's not fair game to talk about his mental health, once again it smacks of hypocrisy. >> are we going to start a band calling there's a tweet for everything, make a book out of it or a weekly tv show. >> a franchise. i like that. >> there it is amazing. if you look back how the obama administration wasn't transparent, they didn't release visitor logs, he played golf, syria, afghanistan, no matter what it is, i love that kicker psycho. one of the thing that paralyzes donald trump is his fear of germs and illness. he's very focused on it.

so i think the idea of people coming here from a foreign country with ebola was probably terrifying you to him. >> i think you're seeing an extension of the same fear. something else that paralyzes him now is a different type of germ called criticism. we saw even if you want to put capacity, mental competency to the side, he is clearly distracted to the point of danger in doing his own job. he would rather focus on this stuff and have the people, the machinery of government, defend his personality than the agenda of the administration. fair or no? >> no, this is true. he places loyalty and affirmation and compmentses over everything. he is making michael wolff a very wealthy man as a result. the problem is it opens up this debate whether or not people should be talking about his mental fitness. and they're trying to say it's the media and not michael

wolff's revelations in this book than trying to be armchair psychiatrists about the president's mental fitness. that is distortion because we are discussing the revelations in michael wolff's book, which affirm many, many, many an ebg tkoets we have known about since june 2015. >> the president keeps affirming and fueling the fire. he is on stable ground on one point. he got elected the first time he ran. that is evidence of an extraordinary historic coup. he should do the job he was elected to do but he can't because he's distracted. >> imagine if he had just ignored, fill in the blank. here's another example. the president heard about this book. wolff can write whatever he wants. i want to focus on x. imagine where he would be getting today. >> he wouldn't be getting air box of chocolates by michael wolff, which is the plan, michael said.

>> the "fire and fury" author will be on cnn tonight with don lemon. 10:00 p.m. eastern. that's a no miss. we have to talk about this. oprah winfrey sparking talks of a possibly run for 2020. the legends ear talk show host brought the audience to their feet several times. brian stelter joins us with more. >> a super wealthy tv star thinking about running for president. where have we heard this before? president trump never came up to the global globes last night. president winfrey was the talk of the liberal leading ballroom. here's why. >> i want all the girls watching here now to know that a "new day" is on the horizon! >> oprah winfrey bringing the golden globes audience to its feet with an inspiring call to action. >> bring that nwhen that "new

day" finally dawns it will be because a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight, and some pretty phenomenal men fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who take us to the time when nobody ever has to say me too again. >> the television and movie icon honoring those who have spoken out about sexual harassment and discussing in personal terms the women whose stories will go untold. >> i want tonight to express gratitude to all the women who have endured years of abuse and assault because they, like my mother, had children to feed and bills to pay and dreams to pursue. for too long women have not been heard or believed if they dared to speak their truth to the

power of those men. but their time is up. [ applause ]. >> oprah also emphasizing the power of the free press to expose injustice. >> we know the press is under siege these days. i want to say i value the press more than ever before. >> oprah's speech fueling speculation on social media about a potential 2020 presidential bid. despite past comments down playing it, her long time partner saying it's up to the people. she would absolutely do it. during his opening monologue, host seth meyers saying she should run. >> some have said that night convince said him to run. so if that's true, i just want to say, oprah, you will never be president! you do not have what it takes. >> oprah's speech was the

culmination of a night focused on combatting sexual harassment. actors and actresses appearing on the red carpet wearing black in solidarity. many makes a statement with pins reading time's up. >> other than wishful thinking, is there any indication she would run. >> you could hear the wishful thinking and the continued on twitter this morning. stedman and gayle king said the speech gave her goosebumps. i said how serious is oprah? there is no official word from her camp about this. when you think about the democratic lineup, when you go through the list and you name joe biden and other potential candidates, you pretty quickly run out of star power. and what she has more than anyone else in the world is star power. if you want to fight fire with fire, president trump is a star, a reality tv star. oprah winfrey has been on

television in some ways even longer than he has. it might make sense to democratic insiders. if anything, it gave people even more reason to dream it up. >> oh, my gosh. brian, thank you very much for recapping all of that. >> what a night that was. we'll be talking about it throughout the morning. a lot happened more than just handing out awards at the golden globes. there is a new report this morning that claims president trump's official schedule is getting shorter. how so and what does it mean abouted prioritizat the priorit time? what is the president doing what he's not in the oval office? we discuss next. one second i was driving and then the next... they just didn't stop and then... i'm really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you're ok. that's all that matters. (vo) a lifetime commitment to getting them home safely. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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a new report claims president trump's workday has become shorter. the president likely arrives in the oval office around 11:00 a.m. in the morning and leaves around 6:00 p.m. axios reports that the president requested more of what his staff called executive time, or time alone in the residence which they think contains watching tv, making calls, and tweeting. let's bring back john avlon and a.b. stoddard. this is not the official schedule, john. this is not what is released to the public and the press. this is what axios got their hands on. they saw executive time from 8:00 a a.m. to 11:00 a.m. where he doesn't show up many days

until 11:00 a.m. >> i, first of all, say i love the new euphemism for tv watching as executive time. i expect this to take on like wildfire across the country. i can't. i'm sorry. i've got executive time. that said, this is serious business. going to work at 11:00 a.m. when you're president of the united states. george w. bush often showed up at the oval 6:45. president obama between 9:00 and 10:00, he went to the gym. but he worked exceptionally late. it suspect even a full workday. >> i don't know how you can be president and work that -- >> fair enough. i think he works the phones a lot. it has always been part of his executive style. >> i think the trap is to fall into the chronology of it. he always has been known for it.

i picked up the phone, as i'm sure you did last night, trying to make sense of the context of this story. and it does seem clear from sources that there has been a e rearrangement of priorities. he is obsessed with the criticism against him. and his people aren't protecting him. he's getting beaten up for bad reason. they're not saying all the great things he's doing. they're not defending him. it is seems he is spending more and more of his time on that. he could be watching right now. if he is, feel free to call in. the priority shift, what does it mean, a.b.? >> i've always had a problem with people busting on presidents when they go on vacations or they have down time because it's a stressful job and it requires that. among those in the white house staff who leaked these schedules is that he has, as you said, shifted his priorities, and wants to spend more time consuming cable news. we learned from maggie

haberman's lengthy report that he watches between four and eight hours a day. when the news goes quiet on him and is consumed by something else like him or a storm, he gets agitated and will throw out some controversy to bring the news cycle and headlines back to focus on him. it's the fact that they believe it is counterproductive to his governance that is so concerning. i don't think calling rudy giuliani or some old friend to complain about don lemon is actually getting the work of the people done. so that's the concern is not so much the quantity of the hours but that is certainly a light day for the leader of the free world. but it is is what he is doing with that time. that is the big concern. clearly of his own staff who leaked the schedule. >> i'm not kidding about it is easier than we thought. the place must run itself. who is advanceing the agenda? who is doing all the work of the

white house? >> the chief of staff, who normally rungs the west wing. h.r. mcmaster, national security. most of his critics might take comfort from this. the reality based on the reporting is is there is a game the president is being played throughout the administration. there are professionals and patriots trying to keep the government on track. the president keeps he derailing it with tweets and other impulsive actions. there is an apparatus larger than the president's state schedules. there should be more contact between the two. this should be your number one priority. you ran to be president. there's a sacred responsibility. >> a chief executive doesn't wake up first very often. there is a much bigger apparatus around all presidents, all heads of state. you have plenty of people doing the job. it is what they're focusing on, a.b. look at what's going on with daca and the immigration deal. this by all rights should be

driven by the white house. this was an obama executive order, controversial legally and otherwise. he canceled it, trump. he said he wanted something else. he said he's going to work a deal. tell me if you have better info than i do. this is not being run. they are leaving it up to congress to figure out. as a result, it's getting mired. >> for all the complaining we do about a grid locked congress, there has been incredible heavy lifting going on since is the summer and it's been bipartisan. many very conservative republicans talking to democrats about a way forward. this should harden every american. the problem be is the president is now throwing these deal breakers in the path of a deal. you're not going to get nine senators, democratic senators to reach 60 votes on a wall. so what he is doing is prolonging it. he's throwing a wrench into it. that is very concerning to the people on the hill working so hard on this issue.

so it's, again, it's a question of whether or not he hinders them or helps them to the finish line. >> it seems connected to the border wall, president trump's border wall. >> yeah. >> and who is going to pay for it. the president continues to say mexico is going to pay for it despite what mexico has said. and despite the fact that there is an $18 million ask to congress to pay for it. >> who are you going to believe, your lying eyes? i think mexico is the leading authority on whether mexico will pay for it. his $18 billion ask is no chump change. he believes in the long run there will be a trade and balance adjustment that he will say that's what he always meant in that mexico will pay for the wall. that's just spin. mexico is not paying for this literally, the taxpayers are. >> it is about time and priority also. there's a good chance the president is watching us right now. and he has a choice that he can

make this morning. he can talk about why he needs the wall. he can talk about why daca has to be changed and why. we will not talk about the book, the 25th amendment. it's his choice about how he wants to spend his time. >> i'm just checking my texts. nothing yet. >> so white house aides, they're wrapped in this too now. how are they spending their time. are they questioning the president's mental fitness. we have a form erp trump campaign adviser. what is his take on what's going on in the white house. let's get after it next. time.

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people around the president, are they really concerned about his mental fitness the way the author says they are? the president is going to get his first medical physical since taking office friday but is not expected to give any insight into is his mental health. that may not even be part of the examination. joining us now is former trump campaign adviser michael qaa pew t toe craputaputo. >> eight of the ten are personal gripes. even if you want to cut out the 25th amendment, mental capacity, how healthy is mind and soul are right now, isn't this proof that he is spending way too much time on the wrong things, michael? >> i don't think so. i think a lot of people, especially those opposing donald trump, are uncomfortable with his use of the unfiltered

twitter feed. some in the white house are as well. i myself was a little bit, you know, cautious of the twitter feed and what the twitter platform could do when i joined the campaign. i became comfortable with the fact that the president is giving america his unfiltered view on things. people don't like it. it has some delicate sensibilities. but the fact of the matter is this book has come out with very personal, visceral, even insulting criticisms of the president of the united states. and he feels compelled to defend himself. >> what about sur is rendering and doing what every other big shot does in a situation like this when counseled by people like you, which is ignore it. let me handle it, mr. president/governor/senator/ceo. we'll deal with it. you keep your eyes on the prize and the agenda and the people. you're bigger than this. what happened to that? >> this is a very different

president and a very different presidency. and i think the president himself is being personally attacked here and very insulting ways, and he feels that he needs to come to his own defense. gone are the days of the beta republican presidency. and i think i'm among one of the people who feel that a robust and even muscular presidency and someone who speaks their mind is someone i'm comfortable with in the white house. >> whatever happened to strength being exercised in forbearance. that's what makes you the biggest man in the room. how can you believe that the people who voted for president trump, and let's say they're the people that steven miller wants them to be in their totality, which are the hard-working families that believe they've been forgotten and they were hoping against hope this man, despite his personal flaws, would deliver them something better. how happy can they be that his

last 10 tweets as far as where his mind is, and i agree, as you said, this is where his head is, russian collusion is a hoax. i'm really smart. fake news awards. can't wait. tapper sucks. fake news awards. that's going to be great. stock market is great. consequential presidency, quoting goodwin. doubling down russia, clinton. those are his last 10 tweets. if you voted for this man, which i'm sure you did, is that why you voted for him? >> yes. i'm tired of republicans rolling over and taking a beating from democrats like the author of this book who is lying through his teeth about what the people in the white house are thinking and the doubts they have -- >> how do you know he's lying. >> this book is trash. >> i'm not here to defend

michael wolff. you guys opened the door. you gave him tons of access, including the president who spoke to him about the book. so shame on you, not michael wolff. you can't blame him for being tricky enough to get in there. who says he's lying. >> right plenty of passages are flat false. he doesn't understand who john boehner is. i believe steve bannon was quoted out of context. >> you believe he said it was treasonous for manafort to be treasonous for going to the meeting but not don jr.? >> i believe that's what he meant when he said that. i also disagree with that statement. >> come on. >> i don't believe the meeting was treasonous or unpatriotic. >> that's not even a rational thought. we know what he's doing.

he has people like you picking up the phone and saying, steve, you messed up here. you got side ways with the president. you better fix it or you're done. and he put something out there to make him feel better about his own son. we got where his son is. it is not an explanation of what he originally said. >> we all know the words that were quoted in the book from steve bannon were put out as proof there is some kind of emerging battle that steve is taking on the president. i believe that's false. let's not minutes words. there is no rivalry between a hammer and a nail. there's no rivalry between the president and steve bannon. i'd like to see them -- >> who is the hammer in that, way the way? >> of course the president is the hammer. >> good. let's use your own metaphor. let's end on this. let's assume the president is a hammer. what's the old saying about a hammer? a hammer sees everything.

>> i think there's plenty. >> as a nail. a hammer sees everything as a nail. how does that serve you well as president of the united states? there's so many big things for him to take on that he could talk about, that he could come on and talk on this show to the exclusion of all the things that he doesn't like. never talk about the book. never talk about the 25th amendment, hillary clinton or the russian investigation. there's so much he could talk about but he chooses not to. the snapshots of his own mind, only two have to do with other things for people in america. is that a good balance. >> i believe the president and the white house and all republicans should be talking about the successes of 2017. i think the president as the hammer really nailed it with the tax cuts. i think the tax cuts are going to reveal what the democrats, not one of whom voted for the tax cuts, are truly about. keeping money with the government and not the people of america. and the more that the white house speaks about the successes

and the agenda in the weeks ahead the better off we are. however, at the same time, i believe the president has every right and i expect him to defend himself against this trashy book from a trashy writer. >> michael, nobody says he doesn't have the right, except maybe the president who seems to be trying to back off the first amendment protections every chance he gets. it is whether or not it is right to do it. but i take your opinion. you're always welcome on the show to give it, michael caputo. be well. >> thanks, chris. there was this water main break at jfk airport. look at this disaster. it flooded one of the busiest terminals, created chaos for passengers. we're live with the latest for what this means. one second i was driving and then the next... they just didn't stop and then... i'm really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you're ok. that's all that matters.

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this is after a very chaotic day on sunday when that water pipe that actually feeds into a sprinkler system for terminal 4 broke, cascading water into the terminal and baggage claim. sitting in the baggage claims were hundreds of bags sitting there because of the big winter storm that hit on thursday, which left lots of cancellations for airlines, lots of delays. so there was a lot of mixup with baggage. the baggage wound up getting is soaked. and the machinery that moves the baggage, it broke that machinery as well. there was so much confusion about gates and where planes should go, many say they sat on planes for hours. alisyn? >> what a nightmare. let's hope they are fixing all of that for the rest of the day. thanks so much. chris? big sports weekend. a clash of the college football

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the crimson tide taking on the georgia bulldogs. a mini nfl game. 44 former 'bama players in the league. 38 bulldogs. i've got to tell you, they are star athletes. they're big, they're bad, but they also have great personalities. what a better way to get to know them than this little game i found called the five-second rule. >> three things that scare you. >> water, well-being in a big body of water. >> snakes. >> grizzly bears. >> spiders, snakes, and women. >> game time set for 8:45 p.m. eastern. 'bama is favored by 3 and a half. this game is going to be fun to

watch. >> that is a really fun game. we're going to start doing that with lawmakers. that is very cool. >> must-see tv. >> coy, thank you very much. all right. so one of president trump's top advisers tells were cnn the james comey firing had nothing to do with russia. so why did the president say that was the reason? we discuss next. ♪ when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums

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>> the final draft of the letter has the same line about the fact that there is a trump/russia investigation that this has nothing to do with. >> i was going to fire comey knowing there was no good time to do it. and, in fact, when i decided to just do it i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trurb and russia is a made-up story. >> let's bring in general michael hayden, former direct of the nsa and the cia to talk about this and more. good morning, general. >> good morning. >> it is hard to revise history with videotape. >> it is very hard. i actually saw that yesterday morning and was amazing, number one, the president told lester holt what he told lester hot. and he told sergey lavrov the next day that he did it because of the russians. i don't think you can undo that as much as you might want to. >> and as much as his aides try to pretend those statements never happened.

what do you, as an intelligence expert, want to see happen next in the russia investigation? >> well, look, in an ideal world, i think this pair graph length sentence from the president. i know the russians did it. the russians know they did it. we're going to move heaven and earth to find out how they did it and make sure it never happens again. i don't think president trump is capable of that pair graph. although i was heartened that h.r. mcmaster, the national security adviser, said something like that in an interview not long took. >> and lindsey graham. lindsey graham said he believes the president believes that russia meddled. here. we'll just play this for a moment. >> the president does now finally believe that the russians stole the e-mails from the dnc and hacked -- and clinton and the russians. >> he does? >> yeah. but he believes that collusion is a hoax. >> it would be nice if the president shared that with the

american public, to your point. >> exactly right. senator graham might be imputing that to the president. when given the opportunity, the president has never chosen to be unambiguous about this. and now we have the additional question with these facts over there which, by the way, alisyn, were reported to the president-elect by the american intelligence community one year and two days ago, we now have the additional question of what kind of cooperation -- i'm not using solution. but what kind of cooperation may have existed between the trump campaign and agents of the russian federation. and, in fact, we do have evidence of cooperation synchronization between the two. it may not be criminal but it is certainly inappropriate. >> what is the difference between cooperation, synchronization and collusion? >> again, collusion is not defined as a crime. i guess what i am trying to describe, we have criminal activity over here which we may

never get to. i do think we have already gotten to the point where there's been clearly inappropriate activity between the campaign and agents of the russian government. and so there should be at least some notice taken of that. and one would hope at some point some remorse on the part of the trump team. >> i want to ask you about another -- well, a, possible huge intelligence failure. david sanger had a piece in the "new york times" yesterday saying current and former intel officials say that the failure to see how fast north korea could get to the point that it is with its nuclear program was just a hugely significant intelligence failure. do you agree? >> not totally. i like david. i read that article with great interest. it was very well put together. but, alisyn, we have seen the north koreans on this ark for mo

arc for more than a decade. it appears that they have sped it up. it appears that they have sped it up. because they still have pretty tough technological hills to climb here with regard to reentry vehicles. but they put a lot more energy into this program in 2016/2017. alisyn, just by way of ste stepbation, number one we didn't have a diplomatic presence there. number two, it is a ruthless society. they don't let their scientists travel. number three, it is is not a very high-tech society. even our technological means for collecting information aren't particularly useful there. >> was it a failure on the intel community? >> i don't want to the use the word "failure." can you do better? yes. should we have been more sensitive if this new young leader was of going to amp it

up. let me give you a truism in regard to intelligence. we're less about prediction than we are about understanding. and i do think we communicated a certain understanding that this is where the north koreans are going. and before very long we're going to have a big problem. >> general michael hayden, always great to talk to you. thanks so much for being on the show. >> thank you. >> thanks to our international viewers. cnn international is next. for the rest of you, "new day" continues now. >> we have a president who is acting like a 5-year-old child on twitter. >> the president this weekend defending his mental state. >> i went to the best colleges. i had a situation where i was a very excellent student. >> if you have to say you're stable it raises questions about your stability. >> garbage author of a garbage book. >> i don't think this is going away any time soon. >> it's a worldwide change that we want to hand all of our daughters. >> oprah's inspiring