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>> what i know for sure is that speaking your truth is the most powerful tool we all have. i want all the girls watching here and now to than a new day is on the horizon! >> we will get to that in a moment, but we begin with decision time. a possible government shut down more than a week away. a giant fight front and center not to mention several pressing global challenges and the back to work buzz is not so much about the difficult policy choices here in washington. instead it's about whether you she president trump as he sees himself. as a very stable genius or whether you see him as mentally unfit for the job. that's the debate. here's how one of my colleagues so deliverly puts it. the tiptoeing is over. president trump's fitness for office is now the top story in the country partly due to
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trump's behavior and partly due to trump's reaction to the book. that's due to the weekend treats. the mental stability and the like, really smart. i went from really successful businessman to top tv star to president of the united states on my first try. i think that's not smart, but genius and a very stable genius at that. abby philipps is live at the white house on this monday. what are we hearing from the west wing. more on the president's state of mind or more on the book or can we get back to the agenda? >> it's a constant tug of war with this white house. palace intrigue or policy. with the president leaving in a few minutes for tennessee where he will be talking to the american farm bureau, that's a policy-heavy stop for them to perhaps change the subject away from the book that consumed the white house and the president's own time. while he might be about to be
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talking about some broccoli of policy making and infrastructure and broadband internet, he is keenly interested in his white house aides and allies pushing back as hard as possible on this book. this is not a president who is one to let anything go unchallenged and he is looking for his aides and outside advisers to go to bat for him on this book. john? >> as you mentioned the president wants to see his allies and aides and anything on tv defending him. we are learning a new term. executive time. to give the president time to check up. >> ax yoes got information on how the president spends his time. the short form version of his schedule and what the private schedule shows between 8:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m., the president has been spending more time in the residence.
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that time told axios they have been phoning aides and outside advisers and sometimes the white house knows he can be doing the work of governance talking to lawmakers, for example. the fact that the president is in the residence a lot of that time watching television and we know that in part because he has also spent that time tweeting, john. >> abby, thank you so much. just moments ago on "the view," lindsey graham gave his two sends on the debate. >> do you think he is like really smart and a stable genius? >> i think this, if he doesn't call himself a genius, nobody else will. >> funny. with us to share their reporting, mary katherine hamm. you guys dropped the banner for me. subtle. let's get it out of the way. >> go dogs. >> that's good. i have been on executive time
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the last two weeks. help me out on this conversation. i have been enjoying my time. i was watching as a consumer when this all started. we know this from week one of the trump presidency. he is erratic and different and he behaves differently. he is impulsive. the idea that you would have a public conversation and they brought into brief members of congress. that the president is mentally unfit, there is great theater to that and great conversation. what impact is it having? >> this has been an absolutely explosive situation inside the white house. the president as we can tell from twitter and conversations behind the scenes has been irate about all of this. you saw the blow back with the approach to steve bannon. you saw it on twitter this weekend with him declaring himself to be a genius and very stable.
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here's the flip side of it. they came into the new year with the passage of the tax package and they are heading into the next few weeks. wanting to be on the same page with the republicans and welfare reform and infrastructure. they have a game plan and a strategy. it will be a tough mid-term year and you know all the variables. this has been the cloud hanging over all of this. what you have here is an intensification for the republicans in congress of the situation where it's like do we publicly express our misgivings or double down and support him? the choice was the vision in front of that podium. all of that republican leadership in the house and the senate as displayed as they may be concerned by the revelations and the president's reaction on twitter saying we have come this far, we need to stick by him and minimize the public fallout. >> it was also remarkable the fact that he tweeted about his mental state while he was at camp david in a time where he
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was trying to get his party on the same page and come up with an election year agenda and discuss the challenges into the mid-term elections. rather than talking about the shared agenda, he is tweeting that he is a very stable genius, diverting from that news conference where the focus was about his mental stability. for the republicans in congress, they view all of this as noise. a huge distraction for sure, but if they can do what they can to get something else done, maybe they don't get anything else done, but they have tax reform done and they can focus the reelection on that key issue and getting tax reform done and help the voters at the end of the day ignore some of that noise. >> noise, but if the president's approval rating stays here and democrats are energized by that and republicans are not sure what to do, the republicans are not sure what to do, that's a recipe for a 2018 blowout.
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>> this is delighting a subset of the base. people who don't have a problem. long distance diagnosis. >> exceptional point. whether he gets two terms or it's a democratic president, celebrate today and prepare if it's tomorrow. >> it is an explosive issue and i was drifting down memory lane, but i covered two times when the 25th amendment was invoked. george w. bush's two colonosc y colonoscopi colonoscopies. that white house worked enormously hard to portray it as a routine thing. yes, cheney will be in charge for a couple of hours, but it was announced casually in a briefing. even a perfectly wonderful medical situation and a white house that was functions more effectively than this one.
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i can only imagine the west wing. you are about to weigh in. >> it's a vicious cycle where when he tweets, tv talks about him tweeting about this issue and he gets mad that people are talking about it again and he will probably tweet again. that's the issue. something we are seeing more of is even trump supporters feeling about the fight and the constant upheaval is a lot and maybe they just want a more normal functioning thing. we went through a rigorous process where by we decide as the american people decide whether someone is fit to be president and many people despite having issues voted for him anyway. he is the president and many will feel like this is just an attempt to sort of tear him down. none the less, he continues to play into that cycle. one last thing, i think there is a danger of confirmation. a lot of people have concerns about the president and i was
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one of them. because he is an eccentric man and they are an eccentric family, you can believe almost anything that someone puts out there and we should be careful about vetting each of these stories and not taking what we want to believe. >> the interesting part is the point that everyone made. this is a very important 10 days and keep the government open. other related stories that could carry over to february. you try to deal with this part of the spending bill and the president's cabinet or supporters go on the sunday shows and there is a big decision about the iran deal. are you going to blow it up or try to change it? they get to some of that. right off the top, they deal with this. >> no one questions the stability of the president. >> i never questioned his mental fitness.
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>> president trump is completely capable of working alongside of us and leading us. >> i enjoyed working with him. i don't think he is crazy. i think he had a very successful 2017. >> the reality is the president is a political genius. >> it is remarkable. with the exception of steven miller, i don't think anyone else woke up sunday morning wanting to have that conversation. >> it's january 8th of the not even the second year. we are coming up on the one-year anniversary of the inauguration. that's what is so startling. of course there is hyper ventilation among people who have issues that the white house's approach is to criticizing some of the history or individual parts of the book. they saw fit to talk to the
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author very openly. they thought it was off the record, but what happened about their misgivings. about chaos and division and about questions and temperament and russia and the internal massive strife and division over how to handle the russia meetings and the mueller investigation. all of that bears out. we knew about all of it to some extent and the book amplifies it. these are problems the president takes with him like chains around his ankles. >> long-term diagnosis and people heard from the president of the united states about questions about his temperament and rashness and questions about his lashing out and his not putting the phone down and thinking for 20 or 30 successes before he does this. the interesting question is how does it play out? it's an election year and the pressure is on republicans. do you try to avoid these questions? listen to charlie dent.
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he is retiring, but there are congress men running for reelection who will get asked this question. do they say this? >> if you have to stand up and say you are stable, i guess that raises questions about your stability. i will leave it to the mental health professionals, but i think the behavior called into question called into question his fitness for sure. >> you are trying to preserve your house majority and districts like charlie dent's, that doesn't help. >> that's hard for senate republicans who are running primaries and you don't have to worry about the general elections. you have to use trump in the primary and how you deal with the general election. in nevada they have a primary opponent from the right who is lashing very closely to trump. if he wins the primary, he will face a general election where he has to distance himself from the president.
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how do you deal with the president's fitness and it will be fascinating to watch the balancing act. >> this is a bit of a footnote, but whoever gave axios a schedule, it shows a diminished -- it supposedly shows he is doing less work. >> at this moment. for those of you who say this is the mainstream media, somebody who has access to the president's private schedule meaning somebody in the president's inner circle shared it. >> a trusted adviser. >> it's a document that is secret enough in the past couple of administrations it ends up in the bush bag which is where the classified do you means go. i don't know if it's still sensitive. at least not to one person. >> it tells you this conversation is trying to track that down. the president said he wants congress to pay for his big beautiful wall. that means you. will democrats give in or force
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welcome back. the same president who said let's be bipartisan said this. >> the wall is going to happen or we will not have daca. we want to get rid of chain migration and we want to get rid of the lottery system. in addition that we need additional border security. >> the complications if you have been paying attention. to getting a spending deal are many. the fix for dreamers is the bright red dividing line. both democrats and republicans seem to think it's the domino that topple all the others. the problem is the two sides are very, very far apart. sketches of a bipartisan deal have been rejected and the deal maker may drive democrats away from the negotiating table. the latest from capitol hill.
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did the comments with the republican leaders around them, do they help or hurt? >> they didn't had been necessarily. what came out of camp david is republican leaders coalescing around the around. it will have to come by january 19th and they want to get a spending deal ordeal with chip or the 702 reauthorization. there is an agreement upon that and the fact that when this deal is made, democrats are going to have to clearly be involved. if you listen to what the president said, whether it's the fall or family migration or chain migration where they pe sigz to have family members come over. they are problematic and there are places where a deal can be made. the democrats can agree and the white house sign off is crucial for republicans to be able to move forward and that means the president in at least some level will have to back off to some degree with those demands he
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made at camp david. >> beyond any policy calculations, any decision made over the next couple of weeks or months will be made in the context of 2018 mid-term elections. you have great reporting laying out a reality check on this year's elections. give us some of that. >> they were giving various presentations whether it's paul ryan on welfare reforms. they are giving the political map. one of the things brought up to me by people in the room is they were reality-based. the discussions were constructively, but they were looking at the fact that the numbers are bad and the head winds are real and the history for a first term president shows that things will be problematic. one of the pitches was that they are recognizing this early. they are somebody who understands this quite well. he was a key player in putting together the group that took the majority from democrats. he is saying there are lessons to be learned here and one of
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the key elements is what is the president's role. he is not going to be wanted or needed in every race or state, but he can help on the fund-raising side. for some is will be campaigning. the republican leaders are trying to lay out how they can help or turn a side when at this point everyone is willing to acknowledge a difficult map and a lot of head winds going into the november election. >> live on capitol hill. i want to talk about the immigration papers and it will be interesting. we don't want you here. we don't want you there. does he say i get it? that's the way it works. barack obama and george w. bush they get it. will this president? i want to start with the immigration issue. it's a defining issue of the trump campaign. it is an issue where they sent mixed signals. he has a heart and compassion and he was going to cut a deal with the democrats and he has to have the wall and has to have an
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end to chain migration. is that a deal that can be made? >> no. absolutely not. he needs democratic support in the senate and they have 51 senators right now. they need nine democrats to vote for something. >> the democrats wouldn't go for the tax cut, but joe manchin and the immigration plays well in the midwest and the mountain west. >> maybe they can get one or two. there are nine. democrats are saying already that this $18 billion demand by the president to help fund the border wall is a non-starter. there are no negotiations. they will not go for this as part of the deal. dick durbin who is taking the lead of sorts for senate democrats said the president pointed the finger and said he is moving towards a shut down. the other things that the president suggested too is getting rid of chain migration.
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in order for the democrats to give in, they will need other things. they need a pathway to citizenship for the people who are here illegally beyond just the dreamers. that would require the big immigration. immigration politics are difficult and divisions in both conferences. i'm skeptical he can get much of anything. >> in any year, every conversation, some of these are important. i don't mean to insult the policy issues and they want the children's health insurance funded and the dreamers. how will it impact november? listen to ann coulter who is a conservative activist, often a friend to the president and sometimes a thorn in his side. if he cuts a deal allowing the dreamers to stay, a lot of conservatives call that amnesty. will that affect things if they are mad at the president. >> i can't get over that we are
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having a debate about what we will trade to grant amnesty. the one thing tom should remember now that he is under attack more than ever before is he has the power to overcome all of this. he could sell ivanka merchandise from the white house. he could refuse to be in the white house. he could govern from mar a lago if he would just build the wall and deport illegals starting with the dreamers. >> you can sell that in some house districts, but you can't it will that in northeast conservative districts that hillary clinton held the race by the republican members of congress. >> this is the danger that she is the canary in the coal mine. the dreamers are more lenient about it. i don't think it is ideologically and the obama temporary measure put them in a
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bad position. i don't think the republican leadership is against doing something like this. the ask is high from democrats. they are going to give something to get daca. that's what you get. you get the permanent solution you did not get under obama. if they want that for those people, they have to play a little ball on this. he will suffer with his own voters if there is not the enforcement part. there has always been a weird scenario in which trump can be nixon to china. what you are missing with the right side of this country and i mean right politically is trust. the federal government would enforce the law. that trust is broken with good reason. they trust him on this, but they stop if he doesn't. >> sit tight. coming up, flash back between two future presidents. >> i know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run. would you ever? >> probably not, but i do get tired of seeing the country --
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i use herpecin l.re, it penetrates deep to treat. it soothes, moisturizes, and creates an spf 30 barrier, to protect against flare-ups caused by the sun. herpecin l. >> welcome back. let's talk oprah. seriously. sources telling cnn that oprah's speech was more than just a speech. friends of the media mogul saying confidants have been urging her to run for president in 2020. those conversations according to sources tell brian the sources that oprah is actively thinking about it. after the speech last night, it didn't end with any announcement, but you don't have to look too hard to see the ground work for a possible, possible campaign. >> i want all the girls watching here and now to know that a new
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day is on the horizon! and when that new day finally dawns it will be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight, and some pretty phenomenal men fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who take us to the time when nobody ever has to say me too again! >> what do we make of this? i have learned in the last 10 years, barack obama can never beat hillary clinton. america is not ready for an african-american president. i have learned to never say never. if we learned everything, a volatile changing quick sand
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american politics. never say never. >> anything is possible. >> you are a skeptic? >> i'm very skeptical. i can't tell if she is actively considering or people want her to run for herself who wants to run. she is someone who has universal name recognition and people love her and has a lot of money, but half the country will hate you. she will have to throw a lot of mud. it will be a nasty affair. i think it speaks to this 2020 campaign for the democrats will be a free-for-all. so many people want to run. the democrats are not that many that people can see as beating donald trump. they have a thin bank at the end of the day. she could come in and galvanize the field. there is still a lot of time. >> there is every reason to believe the climate that brought us president trump still kpifts. they don't trust politicians and they are looking for something different.
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oprah would be different if you want to check. steadman graham, her long time companion said it's up to the people. she would absolutely do it. merrill streep said she launched a rocket. i don't think she had an intention of declaring, but now she doesn't have a choice. if are months if not three years, but there is another skeptic there. >> you know who who is not is a lot of obama white house. you can find the former deputy cheaf of staff talking about this positively and you can find the people who ran in 1220 and they couldn't. it bears noting that some seasoned political professionals
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are not ruling this out. >> it's ancient history and you remember when oprah was kind of the spark that helped light obama's mainstream right from primary to general. i remember being in the football stadium full of white voters as well as black voters where oprah was there to whip up the crowd support for him. here's the reasons no the to do it. number one, you are a billionaire and no matter how hard you work, it's easier if you are running for president. all those years on tv, there are interviews where people felt wrong or giveaways where someone felt jilted. interviews that came back to haunt you in a different context. but look. hillary clinton many thought would be the first american female president and she wasn't. that prize is still there for the taking. if there is a limited amount of time where you can still be the
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first. next time around might be one of those times. she is also a larger than life figure and can match personality and reach wits with druonald trump. she is much younger to boot. there is no one in the democratic party to fill it. >> it started a very interesting and sometimes fun and serious conversation. bill crystal, the conservative activist writing this as a tweet. sounder on economic than bernie sanders. less touchy feely, more pleasant, i'm with her. >> as the charter member for president, i'm noting the competition. i think all the downsides are there and a bit fanciful, but she is charming and has access to money and universal name recognition. it was a very good speech and the thing that i noted what it
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didn't do. it did not take shots at parts of america that might disagree for the future candidate oprah. that is actually sort of rare in hollywood. she didn't go after anyone. she gave sort of an uplifting everyone together speech and it was fairly moving. >> trump is a republican and oprah can be the democrat and the rock is the independent. >> the president called him sloppy steve, but it sounds like back pedalling bannon. any chance the president could forgive and forget? if you have medicare
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on the radar. billionaire activist tom steyer might run for office and will use his resources in other ways for now. the former manager a short time ago and his first priority is helping democrats take the house. he pledged up to $30 million to the voters. >> last year the people did speak. in virginia, in new jersey, in alabama, in races from oklahoma to florida. as encouraging as that was, we have no room to go backwards. >> an estimated 200,000 or more people from el salvador who have been here for 15 or more years are at risk. those affected will have 18 months to find other ways to stay in the united states legally or to make preparations to leave.
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in a statement, nancy pelosi called it premature and dangerous and will tear apart families and shatter communities. two senators following the first few weeks in washington, answering questions about the people they are replacing. they had this to say when asking whether al franken was too quick to resign over allegations of misconduct as democrats have suggested. >> there are a lot of feelings about this. no doubt. what i have notice side that there are a lot of feelings on both sides and i really respect that. i think that the question now is how do we move forward? i am 100% sure that al made the decision he thought was best. >> another washington drama involving the white house. steve bannon is nothing if not stubborn. he is feeling the heat for angering the president. at issue, critical of the first
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family in the new book, fire and fury. he is backing away from one passage where the 2016 trump tower meeting was treasonous. he was pointing the finger not at donald trump jr. bannon went on to say i regret that my delay in responding to the reporting railroad don junior diverted attention from the historical accomplishments in the first year of his presidency. bannon stopped short of saying he's sorry. they learned the president is making clear he view this is debate as a test of loyalty and expects them to condemn the former strategist. >> let's not mince words. there is no rivalry between a hammer and a nail. there is no rivalry between the president and steve bannon. >> it's tragic and unfortunate that steve would make the grotesque comments so out of touch with reality and so
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vindictive. his role has been greatly exaggerated where as the president hasn't gotten the due he deserves. the president is a political genius. >> let's get the easy one out of the way. the chance of forgiveness on a scale of 1 to 10 is what? negative 5? >> that's generous. >> the ever present caveat that president trump invites back in the people he exorcized. everyone in the white house and the trump loyalists say this may have acrossed a rubicon and it's beyond repair at this point. i think if it were president obama, you could say yes, they will never speak again. you never say never, but it's a long path back and one of the strange challenges is president trump doesn't respect apologies. if steve bannon had offered a full throated apology, it would be even worse. to say nothing made it
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untenable. part of this messaging was not to trump, but to the people in the middle. funders who would back his project and whether he could stay in that role. some republicans around congress who support some of the his projections and initiatives and are trying to find out how close. there a lot of unspoken calibration in that statement. >> it will be fascinating to see the republican primary challengers, what they decide to do about steve bannon on the mid-terms. he wanted to support all the candidates and go against the establishment. what are they going to do themselves. will they embrace or reject steve bannon and how will they deal with that issue? that could aas make it harder because they don't have the support from the outside. >> you are inviting the president and i don't see that happening. a lot of fingers left. >> this was tested by the
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alabama special election. i'm with margaret and i think the president is palling around with a sitting republican senator who went on television loudly and plainly and bluntly declared him unfit to hold the office of the presidency. i don't think we can say he will never forgive. >> i want to quote on margaret's piece. you need to be close to the white house. i don't know if it's ever repairable. the wounds are pretty deep. the fact that bannon was dumb enough has a more delusional opinion of himself than trump does. no argument with that. >> if he calculated that he was the pied pipe of of populism, then he is part of that messaging. i don't think this is about don jr. at all. it is about the russia narrative and reinforcing that. he doesn't know that. he is not bringing that to the
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table. he may get asked about it under oath. that's the unforgivable part for trump if there is one. the reinforcing of that narrative. >> one thing in that statement and he doesn't say that all these quotes are inaccurate. there is no such thing. that was misconstrued the way he meant the laughter and manafort said don jr. he said he would crack like an egg. >> okay. this is not going anywhere. coming up, the president holds a grudge against steve bannon, but he made amends with a senator he named little bob. rhosen. when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.
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i use herpecin l.re, it penetrates deep to treat. it soothes, moisturizes, and creates an spf 30 barrier, to protect against flare-ups caused by the sun. herpecin l. >> welcome back. there is forgiveness in washington. president trump appears to be making up with one of his biggest republican critics. bob corker once said the
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president needs an adult daycare and might spark world war 3. the two will be flying together in an event in nashville, tennessee. corker has been working to repair the happy over the past several months and the two have spoken several times just in recent weeks. there is peace. >> several peace. they have spoken at length during the tax debate. as you recall, corker voted the initial senate bill in the final legislation that came out and he voted for it. he got a lot of heat for that including over a report that may have enriched himself. he rejected the report and said it was false. the president called it fake news and corker agreed with that. since then corker maintained this good relationship and it really speaks to the transactional nature of this president who one time he
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doesn't like you and another moment he does when he get what is he wants. the one thing that corker wants, they have to get the iran issue situated. he will need the president's support. >> steve bannon doesn't like bob corker because he is establishment. he's prove it's possible. this is the president of the united states tweeting on october 24th. senator corker is the incompetent head of the relations committee. he doesn't have a clue as the entire world is laughing and taking advantage of it. people like little bob corker set the u.s. way back. that same day, senator corker decided he is a counter puncher. here's the senator. >> the president of the united states is a liar. the president has great difficulty with the truth on many issues. >> do you regret supporting him in the election?
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>> let's put it this way. i wouldn't do it again. >> do you think he is a model for children in the united states? >> no. >> i think it was in normal politics, unwise to take it as far as they took it and unwise to come back together. it is remarkable that that can happen, but they probably need each other in various situations and here we are. >> the iran deal is important. take us inside why a functional relationship could affect that in a big way. >> last year when the president refused to certify that the nuclear deal was not in national interest. he did not reimpose sanctions. he said fix this or the next time it comes up which is this week, i might reimpose the sanctions. the package address concerns about the missile programs and things like that. corker and the top democrat on the committee in maryland at the white house on thursday. they have been working closely with the trump white house on
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this package and the reason they need the president is not just to sign it, but to get america's allies and get russia and china on board. that's why this relationship is important. >> great important say on air force one. we will continue with that. nice to be back. wolf blitzer in the chair after a quick break.
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