character makeup, their genetics. >> that's a republican state representative steve alford in a public meeting. yes, he just said african-americans had the first response to marijuana as a function of their character and makeup, and then he issued a statement saying he was wrong and sincerely apologized to anybody he hurt. why do we play this? because racism and ignorant thoughts about race don't always exist in the loudness of the kkk or people carrying banners or saying things obnoxious, it's often quiet moments and people that believe things and feed a very corrosive sense of fairness and humanity. that's what this is. i'm not saying this is a bad guy, i am saying that he believed this to be true. >> clearly. what rock has he been living under? how did he get in those advanced

age? i am betting white people in kansas have a substance abuse problem and he knows that and how can he harbor these feelings. >> the facts are clear, there's no fact what supports, and the opioid epidemic is white, does that mean our character and makeup is bad. it's worth exposing so we remember, it's out there and we need to be better. we are following a lot of news, breaking news out of south korea. let's get after it. good morning, everybody. welcome to your "new day." we do have breaking news for you, this from the south korean demilitarized zone, a break through with the talks, they are announcing they will hold talks.

>> what does it mean to the united states' role in defusing tensions. what do we know, will? >> reporter: this confirmed just minutes ago from the location of these talks, which is a short distance from where i am, just along the dmz, the talks happening at the truce village and north and south korea putting out a statement, after a full and busy day of discussions saying they will talk soon about easing military tensions in the reason, and this is after north korea reactivated a hotline, d this is significant. it's a window of opportunity for the north and south to use the olympics, which was the initial

reason to sit down and have discussions and have talks about the military situation, and we have to be optimistic here considering the fact in that statement north korea's chief negotiator expressed strong discontent with the fact that south korea's leader mentioned denu deno dely nuke lurization. the biggest issue facing the korean peninsula and the world, the two sides don't appear to be closer to a resolution on that. however, they will send a delegation to the winter games, and this is very good news for the government here in south korea, which has been want to go host an olympics, a peaceful olympics without a north korean nuclear test or launch that could disrupt the event.

south korean president lived up to a campaign promise to engage with the north koreans, and kim jong-un gets to send a delegation to the olympics, and he got the military exercises for the u.s. to get moved back. there have been so many times over the years where talks have begun and things looked promising, and then, of course, the situation just got worse. that's what we saw over the last couple of years. 23 missiles launched last year, and 16 different tests. nor at the moment, the focus is on the olympics and military talks will be taking place at the joint security area, and they

will talk how they can de-escalate tensions, and it's hard to see how much progress they will make if north korea digs in their heels on the denuclearization. >> doesn't that forestall fears -- they will have their own people there, and high ranking officials there, and they will have people there that won't want to jeopardize or embarrass, is that part of the calculous? >> reporter: precisely. this is why it was so important for the south koreans. they are providing delegations, and they are talking about lifting some of the sanctions in place, and sanctions would prevent north korea from getting a ship into the port, and so

yes, south korea wants a peace olympics, and a lot of the people in the country have been cynical about that especially given what we saw last year and the year before that with all the north korean military activity, and so now they are hoping it can go off smoothly and if the olympians from north korea can march side by side with the south, and we have seen it happen nine times before and it has been more than ten years since that has happened, and it was last in italy when they marched together. cautious optimism moving forward, but still questions about where it's going to lead and how much north korea is willing to give up here in terms of concessions. right now they have not had to give up a whole lot, if anything. >> will, it's great to have you there in the region to bring us all of the breaking news. thank you very much. obviously we will check back

throughout the day with you. let's move on because are there growing questions -- i guess i should say are the growing questions about the mental fitness of the president overshadowing his agenda. some of the focus is on the chaos inside of the white house. let's bring in maggi hagerman. >> on the one hand, you have the white house where michael wolff is right where the idea that they are claiming we didn't help him or did nothing, that is simply not true. the president did not sit for extensive interviews, and wolff said he spoke to him for three hours, and people were told to speak with him at various levels.

steve bannon obviously spent a lot of time with him, and that's clear throughout the book. bannon is not the only person. a lot of other members of the administration did, too. they are trying to have it both ways, now that they turned out they invited somebody in that they thought would write a candid picture of trump, and then he went out and wrote what the rest of us have been writing for two years. >> yeah, a little bait and switch going on. shame on the white house if there's shame on anybody, because they let him in. 100%. that's the number, 100% on those people. >> that's not true. even the people there right now, there is no way hopics believes that. whatever ivanka trump thinks about her father, the actual

people who know that that would not include michael wolff or steve bannon. the lack of cabinet member interviews in particular is a large emission when you are doing the book about the first year, because then you are missing mattis and kelly for half the year and all kinds of people that could have painted a much more vivid and not so much driven by the animosity. so no, that is clearly an exaggeration. >> you know the book has raised questions about the president's mental illness? >> there's no topic that makes the white house angrier than about the mental fitness. michael wolff makes assuresons

that are not true. that's -- i think that he is stating a conclusion and there's wish casting going on from people that who don't like trump and would like there to be an end to the presidency, so i think they are seizing on that. within the white house they get angry, but they also know -- this is where you do have, you don't have to but it's understandable to look at some of their staff, he doesn't make their lives easier when he tweets when they are trying to ride this out. >> it's how impulsively he has responded to everything. >> i don't know that's exhibit a of the capacity thing. they have a plus and a minus. the plus, if i were around the president i would rather defend

questions about his mental fitness, his mental health, than his behavior and choices, which was the previous level analysis that maggie and so many others were reporting on, because you can brush this aside more easily. the negative is, we would not be discussing this right now, and i am sure maggie would have other stuff she dug up that is in the current state of play if the president hadn't done, he engaged the controversy and fought back -- >> yes. the wording during the tweets is there for everybody to see if there is garbled syntax. it might not be exhibit a for a real psychiatrist but raises questions. >> i don't think it raises new questions, it just doesn't shut down the existing going and the existing conversation, again, and this is not a year and a half, whatever this is in the

presidency -- this is nearly three years of a campaign and plus the white house, and he's the same person. this has not changed. i think the presidency can bring out in a more pronounced way, but he has not changed. i have been interviewing him on a fairly consistent basis since 2011. this is the same person. the reputation when he talks, same thing he used to do in 2011, the telling the stories over and over again, he has been doing that since i have known him. >> he is just had stress he's never had before. doesn't mean you are having a break down and you are ill, but often you exhibit traits you didn't before. >> when trump is stressed, he tends to bear down on very tiny things, so just for instance you mentioned tony schwartz. the night before he was formerly nominated in ohio in 2016, what

trump was focusing on that night at the convention was not his son eric giving a speech that was highly praised, and not ted cruz being booed in the convention hall, and trump was focusing on a letter he wrote to tony schwartz denouncing him. >> sort of interesting to see how michael wolff is playing all of this. he has thrown a grenade on the bridge behind him. >> that's what he does. >> you are not surprised? >> no, i guess i feel like a white house that routinely never vetted its own staff, i guess people should not be surprised this is what happened. it's a little like -- to the two people that i think are the happiest with the michael wolff book is jared kushner and ivanka trump are very pleased because they feel vindicated by the fact

that steve bannon has -- >> gone down in flames. >> another thing about the book there's a forced breakup of bannon and trump that will please them, and that's a good point. let me ask you, a lot of criticism on how wolff got access, and it appears to be a bait and switch, and he goes on tv and saying we were too mean and then writing nice articles, and now can't say a thing about him. >> i think i am doing a job where i am clear that i am going to write and i am not misleading what i am going to write, and i do not subscribe to the theory that -- what wolff did was sucking up for access, and you can watch the video of him saying the transition was going great now that bannon has taking

over, and the rest of us were writing about how chaotic it was. if the president never spoke to me again, that would be fine. >> that's what happened to us. >> if his aides try to shut us down, that's not going to be effective. this is not about keeping him talking, which is what wolff had to do because he did not cover the campaign in a meaningful way before that, so he had to do that to play some level of catchup. the rest of us is doing our jobs which is covering the president. >> do you want to respond to one of the criticisms in ""gq"" about access. >> i didn't read it. >> it is clear they are not saving up chair chips.

i resent this on your behalf. i really do. when i read this it ticked me off, because you don't pull your punches. what is he talking about? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> it's negative as a proxy for insight by somebody that doesn't know the job. there's an art to what we do. you have to maintain relationships and it has to be open and honest. how do you feel about it? >> i feel that i have helped break a number of the russia investigation stories. i think that my coverage of trump was rigorous and aggressive and tough, long before a lot of other people in the media was during the campaign, when people talk about we were not tough enough on trump and that's because they were not taking him seriously and read what we were writing, and that's a different issue. >> we talk to you every day, every week, and we know all of

the stories that you have broken and the idea -- i don't know, the idea that you never pull your punches. you give us the most clear-eyed view of what is happening in there than we could imagine. >> i believe in being fair, and i think some of the coverage of trump, the tone is a problem, but that's a different point. >> you also have a good way of describing how he feels about things in an honest way that leads to a bizarre conclusion. this guy is entitled to his opinion, and he can feel anything -- >> absolutely. >> the president makes no secret to people around him that say why do you keep talking to that maggie haberman, and they have taken shots at you, and you keep getting access because he knows you don't do the bait and switch. >> he has a thing about "the new york times." >> but he still talks to you.

>> if he never talked to me again, i would still be doing my job and the exact same coverage. >> we need you to keep talking to him. need the insight. sorry, maggie. >> always good to talk to you. president trump's legal team anticipating request from the special counsel for an interview with the president. what are the next steps? our legal experts answer that next. you can't predict the market, but through good times and bad at t. rowe price we've helped our investors stay confident for over 80 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. when did you see the sign? when i needed to create a better visitor experience. improve our workflow.

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how will it take place under oath? recorded? let's discuss with former federal prosecutor, and cnn legal analyst, michael zell vin, and he was assistant to robert mueller at the justice department. let's talk about this is okay. ken starr was on the show yesterday and he said counselor, yes, mueller should speak to the president. anybody that says this is cheap politics or unnecessary is wrong, he should look him in the eye and ask him the big questions, do you agree? >> absolutely. in fact in the clinton whitewater lewinsky investigation, lewinsky was interviewed three times for over

nine hours, and mostly in the white house without the presence of his attorneys, and i think that will be the template that mueller will follow in this case. >> under oath? >> under oath. >> clinton got subpoenaed by the grand jury, and we know how that went. if i am trump's personal lawyer, i say hold on, this is not bill clinton and this man is not the target of your investigation, why does he have to be under oath? if you want to speak to him, we will figure it out, but no oath or recording. do i get it? >> i think you would get it because if an fbi agent is present for the interview, which is what i would expect, and fbi agents are always -- >> let's make sure people understand. even if i am not under oath, if an fbi agent is in the room and

i say something that is untrue it goes from a lie to a crime? >> that's correct. if it's material to the investigation, in other words, if it matters, if you lie about what you ate for breakfast that day, not a crime, but if you are lying about the subject of the investigation, the topics at issue, it's a crime. people like gates and papadopoulos found that out this year, right, this past year when they were indicted for that crime? >> we have seen proof of performance from donald trump, the citizen, when under oath and doing a deposition, and he plays the game well, i would suggest as a person that was a junior lawyer that was forced to read tons of depositions, and will they serve him well in an interview like this? >> i don't think so not over the long run. as i said, in the clinton depositions before starr's

prosecutors, one lasted two hours and one lasted 5 1/2 hours, and they are not going to allow him to say i don't recall and i don't know and things like jeff sessions testimony in congress, because they know if he says i don't know or i don't recall as many times as others have said it in the course of the congressional testimony, they are indictable for lying based on the i don't knows. that happened in the watergate investigation. >> let's play it through. i am president of the united states, god forbid, and you ask me, did you know that mike flynn said this, and i say no, i don't recall any conversation, and how might it play out in a way i could get in trouble? >> let me show you this document in which the following is represented, or let me remind you of a conversation you had on

this day which michael flynn testified to us in which you said. it's a matter of testing the i don't know against the reality of the facts they already have in hand, which is why these interviews take place at the end of the process, so the prosecutors have all the information they need to be able to confront a witness that has a, you know, failing memory or a suspicion that the memory is conveniently failing. >> if nothing else it gives an opportunity to a savvy subject like donald trump to get a second bite of the appearing, and now you get a parameter of what they may know. what are the stakes and when do you see it happening, especially in the context of what michael just offered up, these types of big-shot interviews nearly happen near the end? do you expect it soon? what do you think the stakes are? >> i will say there have been reports in the press, and you

said cnn confirmed there will be an interview in the not-too-distance future, and what i suspect that will be on the obstruction part of the inquiry. people think mueller is investigating one big crime and he will have a big indictment and everybody will be charged with the same thing, and we have seen different indictments for different crimes, and right now he's focused on the obstruction piece of the investigation, and that's what this interview will focus on. the stakes are extraordinarily high for the president. if i was his attorney i would be trying to figure out what i could do to get out of this, and unfortunately there's no real way to do that other than taking the fifth, which i am sure the president doesn't want to do. >> there's so much we don't know that mueller could know, and that's a good thing because this is his house and he should keep it safe. with the perspective of you two guys, i have to ask it basecaus

you know about the sense of the investigation, that the president of united states has any risk of exposure from mueller in the form of an indictment? >> if you are going to me first, what i would say is not -- i think my gut is that mueller is going to present findings to congress in a way it started as opposed to issuing an indictment, and that's the more prudent way to go is a question as to whether or not a sitting president can be indicted, and that's just my gut. >> in truth, that's what ken starr did, and ordinarily a prosecutor would carry that himself but he didn't, they turned it over to congress and it caused an impeachment. what do you think the president gets a letter of exoneration? >> i don't think there will be a

letter of exjexon ration. i think there are two areas that he may have legal jeopardy. one, and i think most profoundly, if mueller is looking into it is his financial dealings, so-called manafort-style indictment with his russia connections and all of his trump properties, so sort of disconnected from collusion but setting the predicate for how the kau lhraousive agreemens were reached, and i don't think we are at obstruction, but we could get to the obstruction if the president lies intentionally about a material matter, then

all the other things, the firing of comey, the asking of his national security advisers to talk to the press and his talking to congress about shutting this down, the standing down on the investigation, and all of those things in combination with a lie under oath to mueller gets you probably to obstruction. he may not be indicted because of the constitutional question about that but it would be the basis for a referral. >> so much i want to chew on with you guys, but can't do it, don't have time. as i let them two go, that's why what we are doing tonight, to start the new year part of our special programming we will start to double dip here, 9:00 at night we will get it on with different types of people at the center of what is going on. tonight we have lucky, we have anthony scaramucci. why are we lucky? because he knows the president in the way most do not, and has an insight to justification for

things like that wall and why that should be balanced with all of the lives with daca. how does he justify that? >> are you pulling an all-nighter tonight? >> no, i will still sleep, just a little less. look, you make it easy because eilei lean on you a lot. >> great. lawmakers called in the yale psychiatrist to talk to them about president trump's mental fitness. what did she tell them and what will they do with that information? the democratic congressman leading the call for the 25th amendment joins us next. ere is . because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. which helps provide for win's family. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters.

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so tomorrow a group of lawmakers will meet with a yale psychiatrist to discuss president trump's mental fitness. one congressman has proposed a bill to make it easier for congress to invoke the 25th amendment and remove president trump from office if he is found

unfit. joining me is the congressman from maryland. >> delighted to be with you. >> this meeting tomorrow with the yale psychiatrist, who called for that and what prompted it? >> let's see, i believe that dr. lee is coming to visit a bunch of people in washington. she has been here before. the bill that i have introduced, hr-1987, i submitted back in april long before i met her or before their book came out. >> what prompted that? the psychiatrist met in december with lawmakers, and you proposed the bill. what is prompting this? >> the 25th amendment in section 4 says the vice president in the cabinet or the vice president in a body set up by congress can determine there's presidential incapacity for reasons that are physical or mental and concerns have been raised from the beginning of the presidency

about the emotional and cognitive state of the president and his ability to take care that the laws are faithfully executed which is the principle job of the president of the united states. i don't take a position on whether or not the president currently has capacity or incapacity but i am taking the position that we have a constitutional responsibility to act under the 25th amendment to set up the body that has been called for. >> yours is more -- what you are calling for is more focused on procedure than actual diagnosis of the president's mental fitness. i want to get to some of the things dr. lee has said. she described the president as dangerous and said he's becoming unstable very quickly. mr. trump is showing signs of impairment. she has not evaluated him. how can she say those things? >> as i understand it, and i will let her speak for herself, and she's taken the position and other psychologists and

neurologist that participated in the book are saying there are warning signs and consider it a dangerous situation without rendering a specific diagnosis. they have a first amendment right to do that, just like the president has a first amendment right to declare himself a stable genius or steve bannon has the right to say the president totally lost it, and what we are looking for in congress is a real process, and because of the division we have a process that is built into the 25th amendment which is that we have the authority to set up this body, and it would be bipartisan, bicameral, independent, and it would have on it, physician, psychiatrists former statesmen and women, and they would be able to act in the event of a crisis. >> you are right, she has a first amendment right to say these things, however, the american psychiatric association real really frowns on this. they have a protocol for not

diagnosing somebody without evaluating. i know maybe she has not given an exact dsm diagnosis, but she says the president is very dangerous and showing signs of impairment. isn't that hyperbole? >> it may or may not be depending on your perspective. they are calling it delusional opinions, and it's like he apologized for the tape, and then says it's not true. it's delusional behavior. what we need is a process to deal with the possibility of a real crisis. we have 535 members of congress. we only have one president of the united states. that's why we have the 25th

amendment that was adopted in the nuclear age. the senators that introduced it and pushed for it, i read the entire legislative history, and they said it's serious business, if you have a president that goes into a coma or loses his memory or has a psychotic break or for some other reason is able to render the proper powers and duties of office. >> the way the 25th amendment is triggered is by the vice president, and your point is mike pence will never do that, there's no scenario you can imagine that mike pence will do that so you are trying to call for a revision whereby it would be what you think is a more impartial body than the cabinet, the president's own cabinet or the vice president. i am just wondering -- >> can i interrupt you? >> yeah. >> that's not exactly right. it's not triggered by the vice president. if you read the 25th amendment in section 4, it says the vice president and the cabinet can act or the vice president and a body set up by congress.

the cabinet or the body or vice president can initiate it. >> you are planning for a rainy day of some kind, and i am just wondering are other lawmakers going along with you and signing off and do you have any republican support? >> i introduced it back in april. yesterday we had 60 co-sponsors who have joined, and no republicans have cdone so yet. a number of republicans have expressed concern about unstable behavior in the white house, and you don't have to take a position one way or another but if you think enough questions have been raised then we think we need to be prepared for this, and that's what the 25th amendment is all about. >> last question, in december when you met with the yale psychiatrist and there was a group of lawmakers that did so we understand there was one republican in there. can you tell us who that was? >> i was not part of any group

meeting with dr. lee. she came to my office for a moment. >> you know about it, though, so can you tell us who that republican was? >> i don't know. i would be interested to know who it is, too. senator corker has raised questions, and senator flake has raised specific questions. i don't think we need to get to the level of investigative journalism to say who said what to whom, and we have a whole book written by the psychologist and psychiatrists and neurologist, and there are members of congress that raised questions, and we can develop the process the constitution calls for. >> thank you for explaining it to us today. >> there's another component that is every bit of important, and whether congress puts together the panel or vp or whoever, and if it goes to congress and you need a two-third vote on it, i don't see where the numbers are.

not now. >> his point is he wants the process in place, and maybe it will never be triggered, but he wants the right process. >> they have the process, but not the votes. the stock market off to a strong start this year. what is driving the rally? what are their concerns about how long it lasts, ahead. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits... ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you want at the lowest price. grazi, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor.

it is time for cnn money now. the stock market, as we all know, is off to one of the strongest starts in a long time here in 2018. why? will it continue? chief business correspondent, christine romans joins us. if you knew the real answer, you and i would be making a lot of money. >> i would be on a caribbean island if i had that crystal ball that worked. the dow was up more than 2.5% for the best week since 2003. corporate profits are good news for wall street and blue collar jobs, guys, last year, construction and manufacturing added a combined 406,000 jobs,

of the 2 million jocks added overall. what is missing there? coal. regulators the president appointed rejected a proposal to subsidize coal in the nuclear plants. the federal energy regulatory disagreed. critics say that would hurt consumer. the competitive power market is keeping electricity prices, and this plan would have costs americans up to 4 billion more in energy costs and only helping a handful of coal companies. >> thank you for breaking that down. listen to this, oprah's best friend, gayle king, not quieting the 2020 speculation this morning. we will tell you what she just said about oprah's possible run.

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legalzoom. where life meets legal. gayle king, you, of course, know her, she's oprah's best friend. she's fueling speculation that oprah winfrey is considering a run for president in 2020. king addressed it this morning. listen to this. >> i do think, guys, i think she's intrigued by the idea. i do think that. i also know after years of watching the "oprah show" you have the right to change your mind, and i don't think at this point she's considering it, and there are people that said they want to be their campaign manager and quit their jobs and campaign for her, and she loves this country and would like to be of service in some way but i don't think she's actively considering it. >> let's bring in cnn chief

political correspondent, dana bash. she's intrigued by the idea, not actively considering it. what does that mean? >> she's leaving the door open. can we take a step back? could you imagine if chris had to interview this morning if your best friend is running for president. the whole thing is so -- >> weird. >> and fantastic. >> here's what we know. she's leaving the door open. why? why not? there's no down side. everybody will motivate her to want to do it. she will get the best press of her life until she decides. >> if it's real, gayle has to leave. >> i don't know. >> how do -- >> i don't know. >> i watched oprah, too, and i have the right to change my

opinion. i guess she did a coverage in a way she never handles it. >> let's talk about oprah. the other thing i thought that was really fascinating, and one of the major things that fueled the speculation was the fact that an "los angeles times" reporter asked stedman about a mow t potential run, and he said i think she would make a wonderful president if they want him, and gayle said he misunderstood the question, he thought the reporter said what if -- what if she would like to be president, something along those lines, and so he said he misunderstood the question. >> hold on, dana. i think he said she would absolutely do it. >> i am just telling you what stedman said. going back to the notion of

oprah running, the idea that gayle is saying that she is intrigued does certainly signal to me that going into the speech, going into sunday night's event, she was firmly planted in the notion that she would never run for office. i think because she is made of flesh and blood the avalanche of reaction that she got from that speech and the fact that people took it as a political speech and an entree to oprah 2020 is very interesting. i personally find it hard to believe that she will kind of take the brand of operah and tae the brand of what she has built and open herself up to what you have to do to run for office -- >> so you are a no. >> i'm not a no, just a lot of doubt. >> you are a maybe? >> i am a maybe, likely not. >> you?

>> i don't know. i think donald trump broke the mold. what you are saying, dana, would have made sense two years ago, what you have to do, all the boxes you have to check and can't have skeletons in your closet, and i think we learned apparently voters are much more forgiving than we have given them credit for, and donald trump in conventional wisdom did things that would not allow you to win. >> she's a maybe, likely not, where dana is, and where are you alisyn camerota? >> i'm a yes. >> what about you, chris? >> i don't think she does it. it's easy to do the dance she's doing right now. all due respect, oprah loves to be relevant and she will be more

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good morning, everyone. i am john berman. >> i am poppy harlow. we begin with breaking news. what looks like a break through in the talks between north and south korea, both sides agreed to hold military talks. >> military talks. what does that mean? north korea says it will send a delegation to the winter olympics in south korea, and those games start one month from today. will ripley on the ground where these talks happened. what came from the talks? what can you tell us? >> reporter: probably the biggest announcement that came out within the last hour, john and poppy, north and south korea will be e