will want to take beginninger lime and zesty blood orange in a slim can reminiscent of a red bull. diet coke sales fell in the last four months of 2017. when was the last time you have had a coke in. >> i love coke zero. but mango, that's up my alley. >> thank you for joining us. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. in the cabinet room is christopher and alisyn. >> it was absolutely no collusion. everybody knows it. >> the president seems to repeat this mantra as if he could wish it away. >> president said he would speak with special counsel. now he is pulling that back a little bit. >> we should be pursuing closure. he doesn't get closure until he talks to bob mueller. >> he's obsessed with hillary clinton. >> we don't care about her. nobody here talks about her.

>> hillary clinton had an interview where she wasn't sworn in. >> welcome back to the studio. >> president trump praised his own televised daca meeting. >> you have this cult of personality where the president is obsessed with his performance. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is is thursday, january 11th, 6:00 here in new york. here's our starting line. president trump changing his tune on giving an interview to special counsel robert mueller, now refusing to commit. incident was back in june he said he would be 100% willing to tell mueller under oath his reason for firing james comey. the president did, however, say eight times yesterday, there was no collusion between his campaign and russia. he also demanded republicans should, quote, finally take control of the russia investigation, end quote, which they have had and have had all

along. and president trump has another idea how to handle things he doesn't like. make them illegal. the bombshell book is continuing to fuel questions about the president's mental fitness. we will talk about how the former reality star turned president is trying to rehab his image. after nearly a year in office, president trump cannot stop bringing up hillary clinton. that's just a fact. the white house insists no one is talking about her. that's simply not a fact. the question is, why is hillary clinton's name always on the president's mouth? we have it all covered. let's begin with joe johns live at the white house with our top story. joe? >> reporter: good morning, chris. seemingly, contradictory conclusions from the president. he's making -- sitting down with special counsel for an interview and open question, all the while repeating his premature conclusion that there was no collusion, raising the question

of why he wouldn't want to sit down and clear the air if there's nothing there. president trump refusing to commit to a possible interview with special counsel robert mueller. >> we'll see what happens. i mean, certainly i'll see what happens. but when they have no collusion and nobody has found any collusion at any level, it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview. >> reporter: his remarks markedly different than this response last june after firing fbi director james comey. >> would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version? >> 100%. >> reporter: the president, again, calling the russia investigation a democrat hoax and repeating this familiar defense eight times. >> there has been no collusion. >> there's no collusion. >> i can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. >> reporter: mueller is and congressional investigators have not reached any conclusions in their russia probes, but mueller has obtained guilty pleas from two former trump chain adviampa

advisers for lying to the fbi. and two others have been indicted. earlier in the day, president trump encouraging the gop to take control of the investigation. despite the fact that republicans already are in control of all three congressional probes and the justice department. >> i don't intend to have a discussion with the president on that point. and i hope he doesn't call me and tell me the same thing that you said he said. >> reporter: it comes after the president criticized senator dianne feinstein, calling her sneaky for releasing the transcript of the judiciary committee's interview with the head of fusion gps, the firm behind the now infamous russian dossier, without telling her republican counterparts. >> he tends to call people names very quickly, so i'm not alone. the one regret i have is i should have spoken with senator grassley before. >> reporter: president trump vowing to make it easier for people to sue news

organizations. >> we are going to take a strong look at our country's libel laws. our current libel laws are a sham and a disgrace. >> reporter: the president also insisting there will be no deal on the d.r.e.a.m.ers without a wall, after sending mixed messages the day before. >> it's got to include the wall. we need the wall for security. we need the wall for safety. we need the wall for stopping the drugs from pouring in. >> reporter: meanwhile, lawmakers on capitol hill are scramble to go put together immigration proposals ahead of next week's budget deadline. today the president will sit down for a listening session on prison reform. and the president will also meet with his national security team ahead of friday's deadline on sanctions for iran. chris and alisyn, back to you. >> thank you, joe, for all that reporting. joining us is john avlon and

gregory. good to see you guys. now the president won't commit to meeting with bob mueller. >> he's speaking on his mind on a particular day when he seems to be pretty grumpy about all things russia investigation. i think there's no question that his lawyers are negotiating the parameters of a sitdown. ltd suspect the president will ultimately do that unless lawyers think it is way too dangerous for him legally to do that. he is not going to be judicious about his comments about all of this. i don't necessarily take it as a change of position. it is simply a stream of consciousness on all things russia which veers in so many directi directions. >> he said 100% he would sit down. now no. i couldn't even get kellyanne to

answer that. how does all the posturing about the investigation put at risk the reaction to any ultimate conclusions? i think that's a question we're not really looking at enough. when mueller comes out. again, he doesn't have to come out to us. by mandate, he has to go to rosenste rosenstein, the ag. it was this was done wrong. this was close to the line. this was over the line. if the president is of the mind to reject all of the determinations, what does that set up for the country? >> it sets up potential conflict with the doj and the president. if the president wants to insist seven times in one minute there's been no collusion. >> eight. >> eight depending on the framing, thank you very much. he should put this to rest for the american people for american history and our due process of government. when he said 100% before, clearly he's trying to weasel

out of it because he doesn't want that position. we're going to have the mueller investigation, but it will need to have a presidential conversation on the record, not written. if there is more than just a truthful hyperbole, he should put this to rest on the record. >> do you want me to prove it was eight times? we have a montage. >> i love a good montage. >> one was debatable. >> let's decide. you be be the judge. watch this. >> there has been no collusion. >> no collusion. >> they all say there's no collusion. >> there is no collusion. >> i can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. >> it has been determined there is no collusion. >> when they have no collusion and nobody has found any collusion. >> that's a fine montage. >> i think they gave the president a pass on the first double. when he said there is no collusion, no collusion.

give me the papers, the papers. >> that's good. but here's the funny thing, david, which is that it sounds like bob mueller's investigation -- we don't know much about it. but from the indictments and the guilty pleas, has moved beyond the collusion. there's financial crimes he's looking at. there's lying to the fbi. there's obstruction of justice. no collusion is cold comfort at this point. >> the president is working this very hard, which is not unprecedented. go back to the clinton playbook on impeachment, working over ken starr, it is is similar. we shouldn't act like this is out of the blue. he is working it. he is arguing against it. and i think for the president, what he does feel very deeply is he in no way coordinated during the campaign to try to throw the election his way. and that is his bottom line position. he is willfully stkpwrarding everything else that could have

happened, including the actions that are the ground for obstruction of justice of this particular investigation. so that's what he is willfully casting aside. >> right. >> of course nobody can draw a conclusion about whether there was collusion at this point. that's why you have two things going on. you have a legal investigation by bob mueller and a political process, all the stuff on the hill. >> when you look at that transcript that came out, other than the senate intelligence committee, it is hard to have a lot of confidence these politicians are doing anything other than cya. we may be professional interviews, there were so many obvious questions. they were looking for ways to trip them up. they were seasoned investigators. this was all a frame to hurt the president. >> that is a fundamental process. if they are focused on the cya, as you say, they are not serving

the national interest. only the democrats put out a report about the details of russian attempts to, over a period of decades, to undermine democracies. they are unanimous that they tried to interfere in our elections. so we need to deal with this as a country. and i think it's also significant but little noted that mueller hired a cyber investigator. that came out yesterday. that could be real implications. >> vicky is his name? >> i believe so. that's an indication where this may be going. it tran sends partisan vip. if they can't get to the water's edge about a matter of national security, shame on them. >> the president is calling for republicans to take control of the investigation. good news, mr. president, they are in control. here are our graphics. as you know, the senate intel

committee headed by burr, republican. the house intel headed by mike conaway, a republican. and chuck grassley, a republican. and the doj are who the president appointed. mueller, chris wray. >> bob mueller sat with the president that was a job interview for working in his government, so not set up to be an enemy. >> david, he is not satisfied with what the republicans are doing. >> look, i think the president has laid out such a clear strategy, right? if there are charges brought ultimately against anyone, he will argue that the fix was in from the start. there was a rush to judgment. and this is the deep state within the government reaching out. and if the investigation falls short, he will be vindicated in arguing this was a witch-hunt

from the very beginning. ultimately this is a political street fighting strategy that he is pursuing here. republicans are in control of congress. they are in control of these investigations. and i think to john's point, the danger here for critics of the president is overreach and in a political process which is anything that congress does as a political process is going to be different than what the independent counsel -- >> there's risk for the zeal of the left who see action here just like we see with the 25th amendment overreach as a common sin on that side of the ball. but i don't think he's talking about who is in charge of the investigations. i think what he is saying is do more investigations of the other side. that's what the president seems to be encouraging. that's why we are back to the hillary clinton game with the president of the united states. >> right. i think he's also saying shut it down. these republicans need to cut some of these investigations. >> he's been encouraging them.

to see lindsey graham and grassl grassley, just read the transcript of the interview and you'll have such a better context what it is about. i should have spoken to grassley. it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. what happens if they keep investigating the left? >> that's classic deflection, but it is no longer rhetorical. it is is actually procedural. >> they have the fbi. the justice department. >> this is the concrete example of the trump administration's obsession with hillary clinton. because they need to keep her as a villain for reasons of deflection. that's outside our best traditions of a country when you investigate is your political opponents. >> we need the fbi to investigate to see if this is really a setup to hurt my poll numbers. you could do it. >> the nixon administration broke in to papers and

conducted -- not through official d.j.o. channels. this is dangerous stuff when you start threatening libel laws. you probably would have been sued for libel yourself. >> he wants it to be illegal to criticize him. >> ye is s. we have a lot to talk about on that front. if you both will stick around, that would be wonderful. >> hillary rodham clinton. do you know that name? of course you do. he defeated her 14 months ago. but nor some reason the president of the united states can't keep his opponent's name out of his mouth. why can't he let hillary go? we discuss next. my mom's pain from

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>> i was the campaign manager for the winning part of the campaign. >> right. >> and the idea that we would have to look any further than hillary clinton to beat hillary clinton itself is a fantasy. i don't need to talk to anybody in moscow. i was talking to people in mechlinburg county, north carolina. there is no reason to go outside hillary clinton and how unattractive her positions are, the forgotten woman she was. we beat her fairly and squarely in this country through this democrat elected process. some people can't get over the election. >> says my friend who can't keep hillary clinton's name out of his mouth. >> you can't talk about the 2016 election. >> i'm not. >> she lost that election. >> i never mentioned the election once. i never mentioned the election once. and i never do.

russian inference matters and it doesn't delegitimize the president's victory. that's why you are having her investigated. it is as obvious as it is is counterproductive. >> hey, chris, nobody here talks about hillary clinton. >> except the president. >> that is great. >> i don't remember that. but now that i see it, it is very startling. >> i had that exact same exchange with kellyanne. i said let's have an entire interview where we do not mention hillary clinton's name and she couldn't do it. >> the president can't separate, david -- and you have made this point, but it needs to be repeated. when he hears russian interference, he hears you didn't win square and fair. that is the beginning and the end of the explanation. what are we to do with that? >> we have to keep scrutinizing it because you have congress investigating this. you have special counsel investigating this.

and there is evidence that russia tried to influence the election in donald trump's favor. these are facts. and they are disturbing facts because it was a relatively small investment on the part of russia that yielded great success. and we have every reason to believe in this kind of new 19th century great game of international politics that the russians will absolutely be at again and that the chinese would be at it as well. i think there's lots of reasons to be worried. the president is obsessed. he's insecure. he lets everybody know that on a daily basis whether he is a legitimate president. he uses the investigation as a custody all to say investigate hillary clinton. she was corrupt and she got away with it. even as he would argue that the excesses of the investigation is why he had to fire jim comey. so you have to work really hard

to follow the president's line of thinking. >> well, and the other thing you need to work hard to do is insist on a fact-based debate. kellyanne is making two points. she's insisting nobody talks about hillary clinton. as we saw, except the president of the united states. so if the top of your government is talking about hillary clinton, that argument is irreleva irrelevant. >> and having him investigated. >> of course. >> it is just an issue of staying on her. >> nobody here talks about the 2016 election. donald trump talks about the 2016 election, the electoral college, the results that night unreflexively. it is the flip side of the point david makes. he wants to talk about that great achievement. he doesn't want his legitimacy questioned. we have a foreign power separately from the trump campaign trying to influence the election on his behalf. and that's a threat to liberal democracy we need to defend.

>> let's see another example of it. what happens is you lie on one thing, you assumed to lie on everything. the definition of the wall has changed. period. i know the president is trying to have it both ways. it was such a signature is promise. but we are hearing double speak. here's kellyanne trying to explain it last night. >> after conferring with the experts who are involved in this process, christopher, the president has discovered that part of it -- he knows part of it will be the physical wall. part of it is better technology. part of it is also fencing. there are rivers involved, assume told. there's mountains involved. there is terrain that isn't conducive to building an actual physical structure in some places. >> the president didn't know about geography.

>> there are rivers involved, john. have some decency. >> the president discovered geography and maps. >> it is what everyone said. here's why it matters. yes, he discovered a new thing. i don't believe that. this was a signature promise that he and bannon came up with that really resonated with the base, david. >> yeah. >> they liked this. they liked that it was different, overt and strong and he's a builder. he's going to build. >> and he got a huge response when he would do his rallies. people would cheer and call out for it. >> with who is going to pay for it? mexico. that is gone and dismissed as absurd and somehow he gets a pass. it is not that there is new information, david. we have bernie sanders on tonight. do they know? is that true? is the president saying we will go with the different kinds of security you already offered to fund. or is it the tweet where he said

we would build the wall. or what he said in the presser. >> i push back on this being a huge deal. the president we know often says things that are not true. when he is talking about things that are true he speaks metaphorically. i think this whole thing was a grand metaphor which he was willing to deal on. it was a great line as red meat on immigration, which means we beef up security. it sounds ridiculous when they all of a sudden say there's mountains and rivers involved because they have always been there. the wall itself is a ridiculous concept. there is a mind-set that what we are going to do is beef up border security. this is where we have to a separate so much of the bluster. and respond spin. real propaganda involves telling untruths to the american people with the president looking i think pretty is seriously and perhaps creatively how to get a big immigration bill did. >> normalizing.

was this a signature promise. it was a bedrock principle for him, that he was going to build an actual wall. >> i'm just saying why should we get so caught up? tag him on that. you could tag him on that. he says things and reverses all the time. >> fair point. criticism withdrawn. >> no, no. he could be onto something serious about getting a bigger deal than people thought was possible. >> good point. >> to david's point, this actually shows potentially an opening to get something done with democrats. because if the issue is border security not a border wall, you have something to work on being comprehensive. >> tell me, is this bluster or is this worrisome about libel

laws and how he wants to beef them up? listen to this. >> our current libel laws are a sham and a disgrace and do not represent american values or american fairness. so is we're going to take a strong look at that. we want fairness. you can't say things that are false, knowingly false. >> john avlon, real? >> that happens to be the current standard of libel law. you can't say something knowingly false. they are values not only in the first amendment but enshrined. is he instructing his attorney general to look at libel laws. yes. so it's both disturbing is and bluster. >> okay. we have to leave it there. you did both. that was a two-fer. thank you very much. quick assignment, google 1798 laws.

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president trump reversing course, now signaling he's open to talk with north korean leader kim jong-un when the time is right. cnn's will ripley is live in seoul with more. what's the story from there? >> reporter: well, south korea's president showered president trump with praise, chris, telling him it was his influential leadership that helped bring about the environment for the inner core

real talks. they will not conduct any preemptive strike while talks are taking place. that he wants a shift from the past. president trump also indicating a willingness to talk with north korean leader kim jong-un. he said president trump expressed his openness to holding talks between the united states and north korea at the appropriate time and under the right circumstances. this is certainly a confusing change in tone for someone a week ago was insulting congress jo kim jong-un about the size of the button. clearly the president no longer feels that way at least for now as north korea prepares to send an all expenses paid trip, their delegation to the winter olympics in pyeongchang which kick off less than a month from now. alisyn. >> great to have you there on the ground. thank you for the update. so president trump praising his own performance during the

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president trump praising himself for that televised meeting with lawmakers this week, very reminiscent of his time as a reality tv star. >> welcome back to the studio. yesterday we had a bipartisan meeting with house members and senators on immigration reform, something we have been talking about for many, many years. but we brought them together in this room. and it was a tremendous meeting. actually, it was reported as incredibly good. and my performance, some of them called it a performance. i consider it work. but it got great reviews. >> joining us now, someone who knows all about the president's reality tv performance, a former contestant on "the apprentice" and brian stelter, host of reliable sources. >> i never had a chance to be on

"the apprentice". >> i don't know if you would go very far. >> wow. when you watched the performance, as the president just called it, did it remind you of your time on "the apprentice". >> yes and no. trump sat like this. he never did that with us. body language was much different. i also felt this meeting was live. he had to be more careful on how he spoke and reacted. the third thing, these congressman they weren't scared. they weren't vying for a job. they weren't going to be fired on tv. so we more kiss up to him so to speak. >> brian, the fact that we are even having this tells you

something. and here's why we are comparing it. because of the language the president is using. okay. let me just go through it. yesterday he called the white house his studio. he called his leadership a perform a answer. he called the commentary around it, reviews. he talked about the ratings. >> i thought it was actually quite revealing to have him say to the cameras, welcome back to the studio. this was in some ways giving up the plot, showing us the script, the subtext of the past year has been president trump taking reality tv techniques and applying them to the white house and the cabinet room is like the boardroom. now he is explicitly saying that. that is useful to hear. >> i think my favorite character in the show is you. you're sort of like the jaded realist. is that the part you're playing?

>> i think at the same time he -- we are seeing these tactics apply to politics in ways they don't work in reality tv. it's one thing, as you said on the apprentice, he can have a retake. it was partially scripted. it's different now. >> i want to get your impressions of what he was like during "the apprentice". we have some of the role of you actually being fired. >> i have to see it again? >> you can do it. >> let's do it. >> let's watch it. >> you want to be president of one of my companies? >> listen, enough of this. >> leaders are born. they're not made. if you are a born leader -- >> that is a long, boring explanation and i don't want to hear it. do you have anything else to say? >> no. >> do you have anything else to say? >> no, i don't have anything else to say. >> heidi, you're fired. >> what were your impressions of donald trump back then? >> i can look at donald trump

differently as a boss than a president. he was also very nice to me. i found out on national tv that my mom had cancer. on tv, yes, i'm sure they were happy for ratings, but he was very nice and considerate and showed compassion. and i didn't want to leave. my mom said you are not leaving. you are staying on the show. so he was very good. >> so, brian, one of the things that the president said yesterday, what's hard for reporters is when he isn't factual. so even if it's superficial stuff, it's hard for us to let go these falsehoods. >> you're talking about anchor letters? there's no such thing? >> he said -- let's just haar it. i won't quote it. here it is. >> two networks who were phenomenal for about two hours. and then they were called by their bosses and said, oh, wait a minute. unfortunately amount of those anchors sent us letters saying that was one of the greatest

meetings they have ever witnessed. and they were great for about two hours, they were phenomenal. then they went a little bit south on us, but not that bad. >> the white house cannot produce those letters from anchors because that was peculiar that letters could have been delivered the same day that he had this. what's the truth? >> i thought maybe someone might have sent a fax, something like that. but clearly what he meant was he was showed these tweets and these other positive comments on tv. to me it's a reminder. aside from the exact inaccuracy. ed "washington post" says we're at 2,000 false and misleading claims from the president ever since he was elected. that is an astonishing figure. the dishonesty of this white house is a huge story on a daily basis compared to past administrations. putting it aside, if it is possible to put it aside, it's also about how president trump talks, how he communicates. i think some americans are getting used to it, for better

or worse. this is a culmination of 50 years of television in america. we have a reality show president. the way he communicates, the way he talks, we're almost a year in and learning how it works. >> one of the things he was praised for was transparency. that's one of the things that the media and voteers seem to like. brian stelter, heidi, thank you very much for reliving your day on "the apprentice" with us. >> my pleasure. >> chris? >> what were you writing then? you put it in the page on on's talon. >> well, i'm sorry. >> not to out you or anything. so the university of texas basketball team playing with heavy hearts. they got a very emotional win. why? we have the details in the "bleacher report" next. one second i was driving and then the next... they just didn't stop and then...

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they said they won for him. >> andrew is the best fighter on the team. i know he's really going to fight. our guys fed off his spirit tonight. >> definitely emotional night in austin, texas. alisyn, our thoughts and prayers are with jones and his family. >> that is beautiful. that is just beautiful, the sentiment they expressed in their win. andy, thank you very much. so president trump says no deal on protections for d.r.e.a.m.ers without his border wall. we're learning more this morning about what that wall might look like. that's next. so, dathe family up to the lake for the weekend. but without the white knuckles this time. 'cuz his new 2018 ford f-150 has blis with trailer coverage. it's brainiac smart. not only does it watch your f-150's blind spots, it's got your trailer covered too. one less thing to spoil the weekend. no, it can't make the fish bite

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boom! what is a wall? why are we asking that question? . we have to. the president used to say the obvious. you have heard it a million times. i want a 2,000 mile physical wall. i know i can build it. it is a big wall that makes me different than everybody else. it is is a beautiful wall, 30 feet high. remember? here's what kellyanne conway says now. >> after conferring with the experts who are involved in this process, christopher, the president knows part of the it will be the physical wall. part of it is better technology. part of it is also fencing. you know, there are rivers involved, i'm told. there are mountains involved. there's terrain that isn't

conducive to building an actual physical structure in some places. >> there are rivers involved, she's told. kellyanne is one of the smartest people i know. this can't be newly learned. border states are paying close attention. challenging senator ted cruz for his seat this year. we will talk about your prospects in that race. what do you make of this definition of the wall? do you agree with the shift? do you believe in the genuine news of the shift? >> i don't know what to believe because there have been so many different stories from this president about what he means. a wall could stretch from brownsville to san diego. 30 feet tall. pure concrete we heard at a cost of 25 to $30 billion. as a lifelong resident of el

pa paso, we do not need a wall. we have used fbi crime statistics, the second or third safest city for 20 years in a row. we absolutely don't need a wall. we have record low levels of northbound apprehensions. last year was one of the lowest on record. more mexican nationals are flowing south than coming north. we have less than zero migration from that country. those who are coming across are very often kids fleeing the brutal, violent countries, el sal va dar, guatemala, asking us for refuge. we are spending $20 billion on border security rate now. instead, we need to focus on the business before us, including ensuring that 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers are able to stay and flourish in this country. >> we'll talk about the daca situation. one step back. the president makes a very different case. i want to test it to you. he said at the interdict signing

yesterday, an ambitious proposal to stop the movement of fentanyl illegally into this country, an important component in opioiding, adding to the lethality of that drug combination. and he said the wall will make a big difference. kellyanne conway, the wall will stop the drugs from coming over the border. in your experience, is that kind of physical barrier the difference between a legal drug throw and not? >> no. and i'll tell you just from my perspective of living and representing the border, raising my kids there and having grown up and worked with border patrol agents there, the wall is not the answer. most of what flows into this country comes from ports of entry. el pass paso, $90 billion of trade that flows through. $32 million lawful legal crossings. if we want to secure the country, let's staff the ports

of entry with officers and keep us more secure. i worked with john cornyn, a republican in the senate. bicameral, bipartisan, that would staff our ports of entry. if we're concerned about the flow of illegal drugs, that's the place to invest and work. >> let's flip the script. why don't you democrats put your arms around this new definition? stop being hard line on daca needing to be a clean bill. you're living it down there. you are elected to represent the interests. stop playing politics on the clean bill. put your arms around this new definition of a wall which meets the common sense definition that everybody else has already, and get it done now. don't play hardball on a clean bill. it's not worth it. >> nobody has a greater interest than the security is of the border than i do. i have 11-year-old, 9-year-old, 7-year-old henry in that community. we want to be as safe as possible. it is is one of the safe issest cities. it's not the outliar. the u.s. cities of the

u.s./pwhebgs co border are far safer than interior cities. we have no common sense reason to spend more on border security in the form of walls. if you want to invest in ports of entry, there is a bipartisan proposal with john cornyn. >> i hear ow that. this push for a clean daca bill that feinstein is pushing, why? why not be reasonable, compromise, the gang of eight already agreed to in the past, and embrace the new definition of the wall and stop saying it's a blocking point? >> yeah. i guess i'm trying to tell you that i'm willing to and we should invest additionally in security. the best value for dollars spent is at our ports of entry where you have the greatest proportion of trade, both illicit and list it coming through. if you want to make us safer, invest there. that's a compromise i'm willing to make. >> all right. let's let that serve to your case why you should replace ted cruz as senator of texas. you're welcome back to make the

case, as is senator cruz. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. good morning. >> thanks to our international viewers for joining us this morning. for you cnn "newsroom" is next. for u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. let's get after it. >> when they have no collusion, it seems unlikely you would even of have an interview. >> if the special counsel wants to interview him, they would be able to. >> he's asking the party to give him political cover for this investigation. >> bipartisan uproar after florida gets the sole exemption from expanded offshore drilling. >> would this be okay? >> if this is not a sign of politics as usual, i don't know what is. >> republicans have to be careful. they can't afford someone like joe arpaio. >> controversial sheriff making waves in the arizona senate race. >> you believe that president obama's birth certificate is a phony? >> no doubt about