>> immigration bill that needs support from the majority of republicans. >> we will have that. we will have a daca compromise that has the majority support from our party. i know i sound like a broken record. we want to fix daca. we do want to fix daca. we want to address the root cause so that we don't have a daca problem again. that's common sense. that means the security measures that need to accompany a solution are necessary so that we have a final fix and not a temporary fix. that's common sense and rational and will be bipartisan, i believe. haven't seen you in a while. >> getting to this question about the tweets today and also the book. the wolff book. >> i don't read it. i saw the two tweets on fisa. is that what you are talking about? >> there are a lot of tweets on

you. there has been questions raised about the president's fitness for the office and qualifications back in september 2016 you said of course he is qualified, he's the nominee. would it be the worst to have a businessman in office. now that you had 12 months of this, do you stand by that? >> you saw on display. meeting he had at the white house with democrats and republicans on immigration. that's the kind of meeting we always have with the president and i'm glad the country got a chance to see that. >> does it surprise you that the president of the united states doesn't seem to be aware of his white house's position. >> he's aware of it. i can't speak to the tweet, but he's aware of it. he know what is 702 is. >> leader mccarthy said yesterday that the immigration daca bill was a good bill. >> it is a good bill. we are working on that. it's a

good bill and it's important we put ideas on the table. i referenced the white house and the agreement was that the four leaders, cornyn, curb in and mccarthy would begin negotiations. when people bring ideas to the table, that's constructively. the chairman that is relevant here. leader mckarth skpet other three leaders based on that meeting and agreement are having those negotiations and that is constructively. i'm confident that we will get a solution before too long. >> just a follow-up on that. you said earlier that you expect it to be bipartisan. i understand democrats do not. >> i don't know if all democrats are opposed to that, but shouldn't we be offering solutions? the bill is a daca solution. it brings peace of mind to the

daca kids and shows here's what it looks like. that is constructively. it doesn't say don't help daca kids. it doesn't do that. it said here's one way to solve the problem and give peace of mind to the daca kids. i would like to think that's a constructively thing to do. >> if it only gives republican support, would you be willing to bring it to the floor? >> anything we can do to advance the issues is helpful to getting the bipartisan deal that's going to happen. thank you. >> you have been listening to paul ryan, talking about negotiations on legislation to protect the so-called dreama, the daca fix as it is called in congress. he is trying to find a way to limit defense spending. we will get to the defense spending negotiations, but the speaker meeting moments after a critical house vote on american spies said they need to keep the

country safe. the house reauthorizing the act. 256 to 164. a comfortable margin after a chaos-filled margin created by the president of the united states. tweeting this morning against a bill his white house said it very much supports. this from the president at 7:33. house votes on fisa act today. this is the act that may have been used with the help of the discredited and phony dossier. by previous administrations and others. we will fact check that. nearly two hours later, that being said, i directed the fix in today's vote about bad guys on foreign land, we need it. they were for it, against it, and then for it again. that's what happen when is he goes on twitter in the morning. the house speaker said he picked up to the phone and got to the president and listen to the

speaker earlier today as they prepared to vote. the speaker went to the floor. we don't have the sound, but he said pay no attention to the noise. pay no attention to the internet or what you hear on tv even if that comes from the oval office. that's what the speaker said this morning. with us to share their reporting and the insights. i want to get to the debate about that. what does it tell us that the president of the united states in the morning after his white house worked for months, for months because this is controversial. it divides lib carians and they don't like it. they worked for months to get to the point where they have to vote. the president wakes up and said this is terrible. >> he hasn't been very engaged in the debate in the past.

you heard paul ryan saying the president knows what the act is and he know what is the program is, but the tweet suggesting otherwise. he is basically conplated the part of the act that deals with domestic surveillance with the part they were dealing with that deals with foreign surveillance. it's clear he had not gotten or listened to briefings from his staff to come up with the statement last night by the white house saying they supported this bill and he had not been involved in or cared about the arduous process to try to tamp down on this bipartisan effort to add more protects into this and more restrictions on the government's ability to surveil. and clearly that led to the confusion along with the segment i'm told on fox news which was highly critical of fizy and he tied it to the surveillance. >> to that point, the attorney general, the cia director, the

director of national intelligence and anybody involved in the fight against terrorism said this is critical. this is how they listen to people they suspect overseas. is al qaeda and isis planning something against the united states. they use it separately. is north korea trying to get materials on the market? the president has a team of accomplished people to give him advice. why did he do the tweet? he was watching fox and friends and saw this. >> i'm scratching my head. i don't understand why donald trump is in favor of this. his woes began with unlawful foreign surveillance and unconstitutional domestic surveillance of him before he was the president of the united states and now he wants to institutionalize this. mr. president, this is not the way to go. >> again, what the judge just said would break the fact check machine, but we won't get into that. why does the president have all

the people who work for him if he doesn't need them and acts on this. >> he acts on impulse that under cuts weeks or months of what his staff was trying to do. they take it very, very seriously. this also reveals it's part of a pattern with the president where he sometimes speaks and tweets as though he's a passive observer and a fox news viewer rather than someone whose every word weighs a ton and sends ripples throughout his government. democrats were confusion and some were calling to clear up the confusion. speaker ryan had to explain this is really what he was talking about and as you reported, he spoke to the president before and clarified the tweets. they were not clear. they managed to get it done. the amendment to put safeguards on privacy went down and the final vote passed on a

bipartisan vote. >> it speaks to two things. as julie said and as we saw a few days ago on the clean daca bill, the president just doesn't dig very deeply into the substance of pretty much anything. that's kind of fine with congress. they feel like if they get a bill to his desk and they sign it, that's fine. you saw something else in this. that was characteristic of donald trump. if something is portrayed as a personal a front to him as cia director judge that pal tanno did, it triggers a reaction. this was something that was a direct personal hit on you, you get a reaction from him. >> and the most common defense on trump, that's just trump being trump or his tweets. tweets can affect policy and while it didn't bring down the vote, it does cause confusion. this is a very on confusioning

and complex debate with foreign communications and americans are being scooped up if they are talking to a foreigner who is under surveillance. this is a complex debate. paul ryan was arguing if this bill went down, they would be going back to pre9/11 situation where we were flying blind. civil liberties advocates would debate that. >> there are legitimate concerns about the scope of government power. how much should you listen to and what if americans get caught up. it's fascinating when a man who is going to be president for a year in a few days, he doesn't quite understand his role as commander in chief. i'm sorry i interrupted. >> that was the point i was going to make. it is okay with republicans in congress that he doesn't get very far below the surface except when it pulls the rug out from under republicans who are

try keep themselves together on a difficult issue. this was one of the cases. there are some republicans that were part of the pollition that voted for the amendment that wanted to see more protections and the strain on the party that felt like this bill goes too far in giving the government surveillance powers. the leaders were trying to keep them in line and to have the president pull the rug out from under them the way he did with health care and other issues, that makes them nervous especially looking forwards difficult mid-terms earlier this year. >> they will be cutting the cable bill or something. groundhog day is not until this month so why are we talking about a government shut down and delaying a deal to protect the dreamers? . your insurance company

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deal gets done by the time the government runs out of money. senior leaders say it would be too hard to build a compromise by january 19th, when they need to fund the government to keep it open. republican leaders want a bill that punts the big questions including the immigration questions to the future. here's the subplot. it is a massive risk untangling the spending bill that could rob the democrats of a lot of leverage and that could end with the democrats having to take the demands on border security. if they hold out, democrats could get blamed for a shut down. what happens? anyone's guess at the moment. today what happened on capitol hill. is it increasing or decreasing the likelihood of a shut down. >> good question? i think the fact that there is no daca fix and republican leaders are moving forward

without one likely on the table is increasing it. they are wandering aimlessly into a game of chicken that will be played out next week. the senate republican and democratic group with a gang of six working on the daca issue likely to produce some type of product in the course of the next day or two. especially in the house that product is not likely to be moved forward. that's what everybody is saying is the most likely product that can get into o to the floor to the president's desk. that leaves them in a bit of a lurch. they don't have a papathway forward and they are looking for a clean resolution to keep it moving for the next few weeks. are democrats able in the senate to hold together to keep their

leverage and threat and can speaker paul ryan get 218 members with no democratic support on a short-term cr. you don't know where things will end up next week. >> you hear a lot of people saying the president has taken several positions on this and we need more time. this is a cop out. this is more of a conservative thing. they take away the leverage and get a tougher bill that is more to the conservatives's liking? >> whatever the president gets behind or tries to push forward on is likely what's going to be what moved, but the reason you have seen the leadership move away from this working group is they are hearing from the conferences and they are seeing the direction that they heard things are going and the direction things are likely going. it's not workable for them. because of that, they don't top the take the risk of inflaming their own conference.

the reality is there are no other serious proposals. a lot of working groups and a lot of members that might be able to get there. that group has been the one that was considered to have the most viable proposal and the leaders are very much up in the air. >> the clock ticks. let's start the conversation that there are some conservatives say no, but majorities say let's do this. why? >> it has always been the case that immigration is an extremely divicive issue. it's hard to think of an issue that divides more passionately than this one. republicans as they have for the last decade and attempts are facing pressure from their base not to give up anything on legal status unless they get a lot in return. they asked for e verify and the cutoff of sanctuary cities.

democrats are facing enormous pressure from members and activist who is don't want to cut family based immigration or chain migration or ending the visa lottery unless they deal with the 11 million people who are in. democrats voted for these in the context of 11 million people getting a path to citizenship and we are talking about 800,000. can democrats hold the caucuses together. >> it's one thing as we have seen them do for decades. when you don't have a real life huge consequence facing you. if they don't come up with a deal on daca, you will have 800,000 people facing potential immigration. the president's demand for the wall may be the part that is easy to solve. he no longer define this is wall as this brick and mortar instruct thaur goes along the whole border.

it may be a little bit of wall or fence here will be enough to let him decide he's going to say he got his wall funding. the other issues like being able to bring over family members, those are the ones that are lurking there all along and end up being harder. >> that was the question. when the question had this meeting, it's nice to see them talking to each other. they didn't resolve the agreements on each of the issues. some of them are quick sand or toxic for republicans. could you do just a daca fix? the president seemed to think that was enough for him and deal with the rest down the road. here's how they put it. for once you necessary agreement with the editorial board. the wall is a dumb idea, but a dumb idea buys something smart in return. the return on that would be huge.

democrats choke on the wall and might ask themselves that would do so much tangible good so immediately and it's such a modest price, saying give me wall money and get a daca fix. will they accept that and will they accept a simple trade off. we'll give you the wall moan and we will deal with everything else later. >> this whole idea about the wall, trump scrambled people's brains. huh democrats like chuck schumer and barack obama voted for the secure fence act that was modify and rendered it not as effective as originally, if they give that much of a fence, the president is desperate for a wall or a fence or to declare victory. he declared obamacare is repealed because the individual mandate is repealed. it's not going to fix illegal

immigration. if you can give that in exchange for another deal. >> to the earlier point, the president gets a lot of his advice or incoming from what he sees on cable television, he seems open to just about everything. whatever these people send me, i will sign as long as it includes his border wall money. if the president keeps hearing this, might he change his mind if the negotiations go on and on? >> i'm going to wait to see what the final daca proposal looks like. if it does not include a real wall, no the a see through wall, expect a political revolt from the base. that means losing the house and may be the senate. he didn't promise only a third of the border. he promised them a big beautiful wall. unless it's built and chain migration is ended, your

supporters will write you off as just another politician who said something he didn't mean. >> democrats and republicans have something big in common beyond the fact that they want a daca fix. they are deeply divided on this. republicans are divided and leadership is hearing from the base and saying if we vote for this and go for this, this will be the death of us. our base will go crazy. there is a coalition that wants to show they can govern and you know the president wants to see something get done. democrats while it's university that everyone wants a daca fix. whether they want to push this if they can get a deal on the issues favorable to what they want to see longer term on addressing 11 million and the other issues that the president has thrown into the mix and the fact that the president said earlier, i will take whatever

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there has been no solution between the trump campaign and russians or trump and russians. no collusion. bottom line, they all say there is no collusion and there is no collusion. i can only say this, this was absolutely no solution. it has been determined there was no solution. nobody found any solution at any level. >> there you see it. president trump at the white house just yesterday eight times using his go to, no collusion to vent his great displeasure. let's call it what it is. misleading. the investigations are still ongoing. there is no public evidence of collusion, but it's incorrect to say there is a conclusion from any of the investigations. also incorrect, this: >> i have been in office now for 11 months. for 11 months they had a phony cloud over this administration

over our government. it hurts our government. it's a democrat hoax that was brought up as an excuse for losing an election that frankly the democrats should have won because they have such a tremendous advantage in the electoral college. it was brought up for that reason. >> the president at ougdds with the facts. the investigation began months before the election. the special counsel was appointed by president trump's justice did they department. he is well aware it's not just about collusion. two aides have entered guilty pleas and cooperating with prosecutors. two others are under indictment. the president's decision to fire james comby is part of the investigation. the president knows all of this. he knows his attorneys are trying to negotiate ground rules for an interview with robert mueller. that made it a little curious.

he said he would be 100% willing to meet with robert mueller, now he said he doesn't think there is a reason for the interview. why? >> now we are getting closer. i don't know how close we are, but where therubber meets the road. this is a real prospect that he is hearing for a lot of legal advisers. it wouldn't be wise to submit. he doesn't have to appear. the last president to do so in an investigation of which he was the target was bill clinton in 1998. the likelihood we will see donald trump submit to that is low, but he likes to push back when he thinks that he is being treated unfairly as we were talking about. there is a part of him that wants to and that was the part of him that answered that he would 100% be willing to talk

and he wants to push back and rebut a completely misrepresented account. >> as you jump in, let's hear the president then and no when he said absolutely and now. >> would you be willing to speak under oath and give your version? >> 100%. when they have no solution and nobody found any solution at any level, it seems unlikely that you would even have an interview. >> except that bob mueller has a big button on his desk and it's called subpoena power. all the precedent would suggest that while there are arguments over whether you can indict a president, there is a lot of grounds to believe you can actually subpoena a president. in fact ken starr in 1998 had a subpoena with drawn because they didn't want to push the

precedent. if he decides he wants to hear from president trump, he's got a lot of power to get him in front. >> given his history and reputation and the questions before the investigation including why did you fire jim comey? as a public servant even if nothing implicates the president, robert mueller wants to have that president's version in the book. it belongs in the chapter that sums it up. the president's legal team said the president got ahead of himself in saying i don't think there is a need for an interview. that's the clean up. what i come at it is this way. they know so many more things than we know. the president knows his lawyer is involved. they know they are try ing ing negotiate the parameters and in the middle of that, the answer changes whachl does

changes. what does he know that we don't know. >> mueller might be able to compel this or bring a big fight as to whether or not he can bring the president in. the second thing is while we don't know there is substance to the charges or if there is anything there, they do regard the investigation as a giant perjury trap. if you sit the president down, it's a free wheeling conversation where he can ask about anything or a lot of issues for the president to answer questions about. even if they don't find evidence of collusion, he could be tagged for lying to mueller and obstructing the investigation not before, but by his testimony. that's a huge risk for him. >> that's an eagerness to make this go away. we know he thinks it challenges the legitimacy of his presidency and for people to not give him

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americans. they were asking questions demanding to know why florida gets to be exempt from a new plan to do more gas exploration and drilling. it's because they need tourists on the beaches and others who have beaches are saying not fair. >> this is ridiculous to do drilling offshore and shay florida is exempt. >> our coastal beaches are really important for oregonians. i don't know why it's okay for florida and not for oregon. >> they say florida is getting exempted for politics. rick scott who doesn't want to have to do with it and might run for the senate next year. president trump changed his tune on issues that were important for his campaign back on 2016. >> i want dreamers to come from

the united states. i want the people in the united states that have children to have dreams also. we are always talking about dreamers for other people. >> i hope we will come up with an answer for daca and go further down the road. it will be a bill of love. >> supported by hillary will cost our country another $5.3 trillion. cancel this deal so our companies can compete. >> it's an agreement i had no problem with, but i had a problem with the agreement they signed. they made a bad deal. we can go back in. >> now there could be another flip. the president's big deal is whether to renew a set of waivers. some are not happy with promises the president has already

broken. >> how many more times are we going to get screwed before we say don't worry, mark. don't worry. this is four levels of chess. this isn't four levels of chess. this is itsy winks. now we are redefining the word wall and next the word is. i wish they would just tell us, we said we would do an entire wall, not. we said the mexican government is going to pay, it's not. we said we would eliminate daca, i'm not. >> how real is this unhappiness revolt and sense of betrayal. is it just talk radio and they get listeners by stoking controversy. you can't say everything is great. how much is betrayal and how much think he used to be a democrat and he was not one of us to begin with.

>> what is trumpism? is it populism or maybe it is for the base or talk radio. they are being principaled saying these are the issues we care about and we will speak out against them. i think for a lot of the president's base, it's more about tribalism and partisanship. last week when steve bannon was thrown overboard. he was totally thrown over ward for detraying the president's family when he was supposed to be a leader of the movement. he was tossed overboard. >> does it affect the president? does he care? >> i think his connection to his supporters is so strong, in the mortal words, they took him seriously. they didn't take him literally.

i remember my own conversations with trump supporters, my colleague did a good story about the wall and talking to people saying we don't necessarily think this is going to happen. even as they are chanting, build the wall. >> they're took it for a metaphor of toughness on immigration. it doesn't matter. >> exactly. there is a question to be requested about so far with many of the issues, he is just talking about doing something other than what he campaigned on. he is not actually do it. if he goes ahead and is giving a pathway to citizenship for 11 billion undocumented immigrants after demonizing these people after saying that's amnesty for lawmakers, i wonder if even that core group as both of you said

is more about trump than any one policy, whether they start to feel disillusions and like they were sold a bill of goods. like the commentators and among conservatives that bannon and the fact that there is no one in the white house or a poum of people, but bannon was the main person keeping this flame alive. now you have john kerry as chief of staff who cracked down on the outside input that is the plt gets. he is clear not a policy mine that will do it himself. >> the president has several times said i will rip up and walk away from. he did sml the last time he was getting closer to that position. now it seems to be the national security adviser and state department want him to stay in the deal with hezbollah and things like that. is that where we are headed? >> the iran nuclear deal is up

in the air and this illustrates what they had in a lot of areas between campaign promises and the geopolitical considerations. there are security considerations and the fact that he escalated with north korea and can you go do that and go after iran at the same time? there are complex decisions that need to be made and the two decisio decisions were immigration and trade. he said i will deport them all. he was also the who promised to crack down on china. his immigration we have seen he is conflicted. a new poll out in the last power shows that 79% support the path to citizenship for the dreamers. they want to stay if not apply for citizenship.

he understands that and has advisers who want sympathy and compassion for the people. it's the reality of governing and he has not demonstrated a paper trail that makes it easy for him to second-guess. >> a lot of radio hosts who were loyal is hostage to the establishment or the manhattan republican party. we will keep an eye on those. hillary who? the white house said the clintons are not a big subject around the west wing. uh-huh. president trump compares his presidency to ronald reagan. on this day in 1989, president reagan gave a farewell address. >> back in 1980 when i was running for president, it was allo different. some said our programs would result in catastrophe and our

views would cause war and our plans for the economy would cause inflation to soar and bring about collapse. it has been quite a journey and we held toug through stormy seas. at the end, together we are reaching our destination.

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>> if you see what they did with respect to the hillary clinton investigation. it was rigged. hillary clinton lied and nothing happened to her. >> i hope hillary runs. is she going run? please run again! >> hillary, my opponent was for windmills. >> the election in case you are keeping track was 429 days ago. the president mentioned her at least 60 times since inauguration day including seven times in 2018, but nobody at the trump white house cares or talks about hillary clinton. nobody is a code name for president. >> he is clearly preoccupied with her and sees her as his forever rival. he called her his rival. a lot of it is trying to turn the tables on the russia questions and talk about the investigation into her use of a private e-mail server and he went on and on about her

interview with the fbi that is totally different than the sitting president of the united states sitting down with the special counsel. it was a voluntary interview that wouldn't have been transcribed. he sees her still as a threat and we were talking about how the wall was not a literal thing and more a way of talking about his approach on immigration. i think mentioning hillary and for him she represents his detractors and enemies and the people he has to push back on. >> he needs an enemy. >> it's so common for presidents to go after their predecessors from the other party and plabla them. every white house we have seen has done that. it's highly unusual for a president who go after the opponent who was never president. it shows how much the clinton activated the republican base and how much the entertainment complex, talk radio in particular has gotten off of

channelling hatred towards the clinton. they are a little lost without them. >> we expected to hear from president trump on round table discussions about prison reform. wolf blitzer is here after a quick break. have a good day.

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>> it's 1:00 p.m. in washington and 9:00 in moscow. wherever you are watching for around the world, thanks for joining us. we start with confusion and contradictions at the white house centering on president donald trump. a morning tweet throwing a key house vote into question for a while, but now the president's attorneys are also trying to clarify a statement he made about the possibility of talking with the special prosecutor, robert mueller. listen to this. >> i will see what happens, but when they have no collusion and nobody's found any