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should be simple, fast, and easy. download the xfinity my account app or go online today. good evening. we begin tonight on this martin luther king junior day with a claim by the president of the united states, a claim that he is not, in fact, a racist. >> i am not a racist. i am the least racist person you have ever interviewed. president trump yesterday but it should be pointed out he's had to make that claim on more than one occasion since declaring his candidacy. this time it was in response to racist comments he made last thursday at a meeting about immigration. the remarks were confirmed by a democratic and republican senator at the meet and now are
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backed up by a senior republican source telling cnn their defense of the president seem to hinge on hearing him say the word house instead of hole. as in shit house countries but and not shit hole country. that's the basis for others going on tv this weekend and denying the whole thing. house instead of hole. that's where we are today. and on this holiday officially designated as a day of public service which the president affirmed on friday. how did the president honor dr. king? he got in a round of golf. it's the 95th day in his presidency spent at one of his golf sources. oth -- this president did no public service. he did, however, fire off a name-calling tweet related to all of this which we'll get to shortly.
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first the president's claim which i want to play again in case you missed it. >> i'm not a racist. i am the least racist person you have ever interviewed. that i can tell you. >> keeping him honest, i suppose the claim of being the least racist person reporters have interviewed, i suppose that depends on who you've interviewed. democratic and republican women might be able to claim they're less racist. so might the freedom write riders. or perhaps milldread and rachel loving. or father flager, michael flager who i've had the honor of spending time in chicago. he's dedicated his life to
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serving the african american community in chicago and saving young black lives on chicago's south side. he might the less racist. maybe the question is is the man who says these least racist person less racist than a real estate developer sued by the justice department for discriminating against people of color? less than the new york billionaire to called for the restoration of the death penalty for five teenagers convicted of beating and raping a white jogger and then refused to concede their innocence when dna cleared them. or how about the casino own who are one of our guests said this about his african american chief financial officers. black guys counting my money, i hate it. the only guys i want counting my money wearing yaum kas. or someone who would say this
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about the first african american president. >> because i asked to see his college records, because i'd like to see them. there's one line called -- [ applause ] >> there's one line called place of birth. i'd like to say what he said. it would be very interesting. i don't care if he had good marks. i'd like to see place of birth, three colleges. i'd love to see what perhaps it's going to say hawaii. perhaps it's going to say kenya. perhaps it's going to say -- i'd like to see. place of birth. >> well, to be the least racist person, you'd have to be less racist than that, and less racist than the guy who said so many other things including this. >> you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people. on both sides.
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look at my african american over here. donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. i would like to have him show his birth certificate. when mexico sends their people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs and crime. they're rapists. this judge is of mexican heritage. i'm building a wall. you were here long before any of us were here, although we have a representative in congress who they say was here a long time ago. they call her pocahontas. >> are those all things you would really file under things the least racist person ever says. if so, when you agree with the president. not only are the comments calling anger and uprise. home his remarks have put immigration reform in jeopardy and that could lead to a government shutdown. the president tweeted senator
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dicky durbin misrepresented what was said at the daca meeting. deals can't get made when there's no trust. durbin blew daca and is hurting our military. >> pamela brown is at the white house tonight. this is not the first time the president has claimed he is the least racist person. >> reporter: certainly not the first time. you pointed out several examples where he was forced to defend himself against racist accusations. in the wake against the charlottesville protests, and it's noteworthy today because it is a day when the country celebrates the civil rights acon, martin luther king junior. there's dispute about what the president said in the oval office, whether it was house or hole, but it's a distinction without a difference because the sentiment is the same. i spoke to one white house official tonight who said the president wasn't talking about the people.
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he was talking about the countries, and i really couldn't get a good answer on why the white house initially didn't deny that the president said this, and then, of course, as you know the next day the president did deny he used that language. there were lots of questions shouted at the president here tonight when he landed on the lawn of marine one, of course, asking about the comments and the controversy surrounding daca and the president ignored questions as he walked into the residence. >> we should point out the initial white house statement on that very night when this story broke on thursday, it seemed to basically back up what he said. it didn't directly address the comments but it talked about how he's defending america and that's his priority and his concern over immigration. >> right. if you'll recall, a couple weeks before there were similar comments that were reported in the new york times that the president had allegedly said, reportedly said about haiti and the people there. >> right. he said that, according to
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times, he said that all haitians have aids and talked about everybody from nigeria basically living in huts. the white house denied it. but it was white house aides in that room. these comments made in front of bipartisan lawmakers, harder for them to deny. >> yeah. exactly. and i pointed out s-hole versus s-house, a difference without a distinction there, and it's sort of -- as you pointed out, tom cotton and senator perdue both republican senators initially said they didn't recall what was said in the oval office, and then by sunday a couple days later they were saying he didn't use that word. well, it turns out according to our reporting the word they heard was s-house versus s-hole. it makes you scratch your heads. >> do people believe the president will be able to put this behind him? >> reporter: one white house aide said the white house is confident they'll be able to
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move forward. it's a busy week with the government shutdown looming. they said they'll focus on a clean budget deal. the reality is it's going to be tough to move past the controversy. democrats are tieing it in with the daca deal saying it's going to make it harder to come to a deal with daca and they're threatening to withhold their vote if a deal on daca isn't done. it's tied together here and the white house does acknowledge that saying that daca is, of course, part of the calculus here. i can tell you there are several meetings, phone calls set up this week at the white house. it's going to be a very busy week here at the white house. >> all right. pam brown, thank you. more now on how a the vote. this idea that there are republicans on both sides of this essentially arguing about what the president did or did say, what kind of effect do you think that's going to have on things tomorrow when everyone is back in from the holiday? >> it's a microcome of how the
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issue breaks inside the republican party. it's a complex issue. even the loyalty to the president, there is a sharp divide inside the republican party, inside the senate republican conference, inside the house republican conference in terms of where they stand on this. and all of this kind of underscores the difficulty republican leaders are facing right now. when it comes to this issue, there is a bipartisan deal that is on the plate right now. that republicans have rejected. the president has soundly rejected that idea. they want to noouf onto something else. the real question is what. as they currently look at this week, as pam laid out so well, the difficulties, the complexities that are involved with trying to keep the government open over the course of the next four days. inside the republican party there is no firm agreement on how to address the daca issue. as long as there's no firm agreement on how to address the daca issue, there's the possibility that republicans simply can't coalesce around anything at all. enand if they can't, the question becomes can they
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actually address this issue at all? and right now when you talk to republican leaders they say we need to and understand this is something we have to take care of. you have the question of what's your solution to that? what's the answer going to be? they don't have one at this point. >> all right. phil, thank you very much. as we mentioned, the president went golfing today. we'll take a look at how his predecessor spent the day. also how lawmakers are reacting to the president's claim that he's the least racist person and senator durbin, and the comments that started this in the first place. on america's most awarded network. verizon? uh, woah, woah, woah vince. it was ranked highest in network quality performance nationwide by j.d. power and rated number 1 in the nation by rootmetrics 8 times running. it's totally verizon. vince! we can see the sign. the v's sticking out. anyway, the most awarded network is... verizon! vince! you didn't know what it was... you did? okay. when we win, you win.
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talk to your doctor today. janssen wants to help you explore cost support options for stelara®. the president isn't doing with his sprepredecessors did o this day. it was dedicated as day of service. since that time presidents have spent an example going to public events, mark the holiday remembering dr. king's legacy. president clinton helped paint a high school. president bush invited african american cler igy and helped pat a mural at a school. president trump went in another direction. he played golf in florida and no public events scheduled. on friday he called on all
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americans who do acts of civic work for the day. >> when you hear the president say he's the least racist person that reporters have ever interviewed, i'm wondering what you thought. >> i don't know. i think when someone has to say they are the least racist person that we know or that we've seen, nine times of out ten they're pretty racist. one of the things donald trump is having difficulty doing is understanding his past, understanding that many of us are not fooled by anything that he does today. his words about dr. king, they fall on deaf ears. he doesn't understand dr. king's legacy. the fact that he's playing golf today doesn't surprise anyone. dr. king's legacy was combatting racism and militarism. donald trump is racist. let's not get that wrong. but what we're trying to do is break down the systemic racism
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and oppression that permeates our system. not deal with whether or not one man says nigger or not. >> are you disappointed the president golfed today? >> if i were there working at the white house, i would have advised to have some form of activity, service, or event on martin luther king day to commemorate the day on the day, but i was pleased to see that he joined dr. king's niece and nephew in atlanta and signed the legislation to expand the martin luther king site and making it the first national park in georgia. i was pleased to see him sign the proclamation on friday. i was pleased to see ben carson was in atlanta at a church speaking on behalf of the administration. i was pleased to see secretary
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zinke at a memorial day and vice president pence go to the martin luther king memorial site. i was pleased to see what the administration did at the president's remarks and the weekly message, the tweets he gave, that he did and mrs. trump and ivanka trump and donald trump junior and others in the administration did. on whole, it have good. if i was there, i would have advised him to do at least one of those things of all the things they did on today. >> rich, in your opinion, is there a difference if the president said shit hole or shit house? >> no. i strongly believe from my understanding of the meeting that it was s-house, but it's closely related. it's not going to make a difference to anyone. and anderson, i don't think a president should speak this way. it's vulgar. it's going to be offensive to all sorts of people if it comes out. but i think the reaction has
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been over the top. i mean, from my understanding the meeting wasn't saying vile racist things repeatedly the way dick durbin alleges. he was reacting to a proposal on the visa lottery program which sprinkles visas across the world with little connection here, and the proposal was to continue that program in part in a different form and sprinkle visas around the to the various countries. the president's position, the position of immigration restrictionists is we should move away from a focus on countries of origin instead to go to a merit-based system. it doesn't matter if you're have an advanced country or s-hole country. what matters is your skills and ability to come here. >> the examples the president used, first, talking about africa as if it's one country when it's dozens of countries with various levels of economic
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development. the example he use second down norway. it's overwhelmingly people of nordic dissent. >> i believe he used that because it's a high-skilled country. and just realistically -- >> many of the people from africa have college degrees. >> there's no proposal on the table to get a lot of norwegians into this country. it will move the stream of immigration more to south and east asians. 1999 look at the immigration from sub sahara and africa. there are immigrant groups doing well. nigerians, about 60% of them are college graduates inspect about 60% are in management positions when they work here. that's fantastic. let's do more of that. look at indian immigrants. the median income of a household headed by an indian immigrant is 10 $5,000. that's amazing.
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that's the american dream at work. we're in a position where you can be choosey. let's choose people who can almost instantly join the middle class in this country. >> rich, do you have an example of any shit hole country that the president referred to that is predominantly cacaucasian? >> we don't know what countries were talked about? >> i think elle s salvador, hai- >> i'm not sure he called every african country that. >> the countries you're pointing out are predominantly people of color. >> but the proposal, again, the context of the discussion is about the visa lottery. >> but the words he used are countries he cited. >> durbin and graham weren't saying move the visa lottery to norway. they said underrepresented countries.
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that usually means third world countries. i wouldn't speak that way about those countries. i don't think the president of the united states should speak that way, but i think you to interpret his remarks in the context of the underlying policy which is an emphasis on merit. >> anna, is it in the context of the underlying policy or is this clearly people from people are who are black, less people who are black and more people white from norway? >> the context of the conversation was that graham and durbin were offering an alternative to protect people with temporary protective service. that haitians and people from elel salvador who have lost it. they are a large part of communities, including the one i live in. really, anderson, this is a silly discussion whether it was shit house or shit hole.
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what matters is not the second syllable. it's the first syllable. he could have had a discussion on the merits of immigration. he chose to insert racism, inject a vision and hostility and this kind of color base argument into the discussion. and it is not an isolated act by donald trump. it is one more event, one more time, one more statement. i'm actually okay with him not having done anything today. i think you should serve and make it a day of service to honor martin luther king when it's in your heart, not because it's on your schedule, not because other presidents did it. if you don't have what it takes to recognize that counterposing a white country with people of color is racist, if you don't have what it takes to apologize for racist remarks, you don't have what it takes to commemorate martin luther king and put out statements and quote his beautiful words and pretend
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you're a martin luther king apostle, you're not. you're a racist. stay in your country club and golf. >> we will continue the discussion when we come back. reaction in iowa to one senator's defense of the president when 360 continues. w. so he took aleve this morning. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. tylenol can't do that. aleve. all day strong. all day long. and for pain relief and a good night's rest, try aleve pm for a better am. directv has been rated number one in customer satisfaction over cable for 17 years running. but some people still like cable. just like some people like pre-shaken sodas. having their seat kicked on an airplane. being rammed by a shopping cart. sitting in gum.
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who are unhappy with the president's remarks he made on thursday. in his defense of places like norway. joni ernst's defense of the president drew laughter. >> i don't respond a lot to what the president is saying. if i'm going to talk, i want to talk about the things i'm working on and the things important to iowa. he's standing up for a lot of countries where we've seen -- >> name a few. could you name a isn't it true. >> yeah, you bet. norway is one of them. okay. how many of you think -- you laugh, but, folks, who borders norway? russia. >> you can see russia from norway. back with the panel. paris, you heard senator ernst, a republican senator getting laughs, not in a good way. unclear what the makeup of the audience is in terms of their politics. if she's getting laughs when she attempts to defend the
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president, do you see his words as a problem for the gop or do you think this is just news, this news cycle? >> listen, i don't think that anybody should go out and try to defend every word that the president of the united states says or every tweet the president tweets about. senator ernst needs to defend her record and what she's trying to do for her constituents in the state of iowa and focus on that. that includes not having this government shutdown. when you look at 2018, you look at looking forward to how it's going to impact the gop, i think this white house has to stay focussed on the things they're doing right and the things the president is leaning on when it comes to the economy and the tax cuts that are going to take place and you'll start to feel them in your pocketbooks next month. and leading to infrastructure and all the other positive things this administration is actually doing, and should get credit for, those are winning messages. i think that's what they should focus on. and i think this too shall pass.
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stay focussed. >> will this pass? >> i'm hesitant to say that it won't just be a phase, because everything we've seen in donald trump's trajectory since he came down the steps and called mexicans rapists has been momentary. this day then the next day and then there's another news cycle. and people are getting exhausted. it's equivalent to drinking out of a fire hose. it's difficult. i don't think everybody has to be a coward. i mean, i think you can have more people like governor charlie baker. i was a part of a program with him this morning in boston who spoke about the fact that his mother had always hiemer's, and he has immigrants care for her. understanding the value they bring to the united states of america, talking about the value of diversity. we may disagree on tax policy, but we understand what it means to be american. the irony in this is that rich was talking about a merit-based
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system and making $100,000, and then i'm pretty sure you go out and quote martin luther king junior. and when people don't understand the essence of the day, when they don't understand the value of the moment that we're in, and i'm not worried about the words of our enemies to quote dr. king. i'm worried about the silence of our friends. and if joanie wants to be an upright american and stand for all the virtues. if rich wants to stand for all the virtues of being american, now is not the time to be a coward. now is the time to stand up. >> go ahead. >> i don't understand what's un-american about celebrating indian immigrants who come here and succeed. why are you laughing? that's the bad thing? >> what i was pointing to is the fact that we have vast income inequality in the country and that you don't have to make $100,000 to be welcomed. if you work with your hands, you're welcome in the united states. if you're a nursing assistant or a teacher, you're welcome in the
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united states. >> this is part of the point. we have a lot -- >> you don't have to have a merit tied to materialism. >> we have a problem with -- we've seen it for ten years, maybe going back 30 years. >> what's the problem? >> i'm going to explain. people lower down the income scale, both native and immigrants who have had a problem with wage stagnation. if you flood lower down in that labor market with new immigrants, you're going to at least at the margins depress wages. so why are we choosing to do that when we have so many people who want to come here who can actually go with the system like canada has? do you think canada is a racist country? they have a points based, merit based system. australia, i guess another closed, racist society as a point based merit based system.
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you bring people in who can succeed when they first get here in a 21st century economy. do you think that's racist or wrong? >> no one is calling the -- >> ask me the question. >> one at a time. anna, what's wrong with that? >> something to wrong with that. we need a modern-day immigration system that addresses the needs of our modern-day economy. the problem is that right now we are nowhere. frankly, if donald trump wants to change the narrative that he's a racist, and you ask the question is this a phase? is this going to pass? it will pass because we have limited attention span and also because donald trump is the pass k b baskin robins of offensive comments. it will be another comment in a few days, but we'll tlaeb he said look at my african american over there. we will remember his statement after charleston.
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we will remember the statements. it will all -- it's all part of a narrative. if donald trump wants to change the narrative, he should act on immigrati immigration. bring in the senators and congress people at the meeting and tell them let us work out a plan that can pass muster. donald trump needs to lead on this. >> i have to end with this. up next, a conversation about his take on president trump and racist and what to do about daca. g phones get a samsung galaxy s8 free. plus, unlimited family plans come with netflix included. so, you can watch all your netflix favorites on your new samsung phones. join the un-carrier and get a samsung galaxy s8 free. all on america's best unlimited network.
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members of congress are still trying to digest president trump's vulgar remarks on immigration. one of them is charlie dent. i spoke with the congressman just before we went to air. congressman, today lindsey graham doubled down saying my memory hasn't evolved. i know what was said and i know what i said. do you have any reason to doubt senator graham? do you think the president said that? >> i do not doubt what senator graham has said. he was in the meeting and i accept him at his word. i think really the challenge for the president is it's one of these here we go again moments. the president has a history. he made incendiary comments about mexicans, muslims. there was charlottesville. and now this. so people aren't going to give the president the benefit of the
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doubt on an issue like this. >> "the new york times" reported three weeks ago the president had said that haitians, they all have aids and talked about people from nigeria as people who lived in huts. white house denied that. this was in a bipartisan meeting. the question is if one believes the senators who say it happened, are the others lying or did they mishear? >> i can't speak for those senators. i wasn't in the meeting. there were others who have not responded. so i don't know if they had a different -- if they heard something different, but i accept senator graham's and senator durbin's comments immediately after the meeting that this is, in fact, what the president said. but my bigger concern right now is that his remarks don't blow up d.r.e.a.m.er daca agreement i
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think we can reach. i think senators graham and durbin deserve credit for a pretty good bill. that's my concern, how does it affect that agreement, and i've been to africa on several occasions. the people of sub havesub hay r africa have a good view of the united states. i'm afraid of what happens to that. all the programs we've done, i'm worried it will be in danger because of the unfortunate remarks. >> senator graham spoke about daca and immigration reform saying we're not going to get there by the president tweeting. we're not going to get there by him trying to blame democrats. that not going to work. do you think this has derailed the plan?
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>> i don't believe it has. this whole notion of accommodating the doo.r.e.a.m.e along with responsible border measures cleaning up the visa rot loath ri program and dealing with some of the family migration issues, it's part of the graham durbin bill. it goes further than i thought many democrats would be willing to go. i think has republicans we ought to seize this opportunity and deal with it as part of either as a stand alone measure or as part of a budget agreement. i'm not saying it's part of the continuing resolution at the end of this week, but it's part of a broader budget agreement we need to reach within the next few weeks. >> lastly, when the president says he's the least racist person, do you believe that? >> well, what i know is that the president from time to time has made racially incendiary and
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inflammatory comments back to the mexicans and the muslims, you know, you have the indiana judge, charlottesville. we have a long list. on the issues i can't speak whether or not the president is a racist, but i know he's made racially incendiary comments that are unfortunate and make life difficult for a lot of us trying to get things accomplished. >> congressman dent, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. just ahead a decision about donald trump's business practices are getting a new look in light of his most recent comments. did he discriminate against african americans in the 1970s? get ready for
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>> reporter: 14,000 apartments in 39 buildings all mostly white tenants until the department of justice took notice and slammed donald trump and his father with a lawsuit. trump management was charged with discriminating against african americans and breaking federal law. donald trump then just 27 just president of the company. >> the department of justice accused them of violating the fair housing act arguing they were turning away renters based on race own color. local activists tipped them off posing as potential renters mainly in brooklyn in queens. elise was a lawyer at the same time and was called onto handle the trump case. >> when the black test -- testers came, they were told nothing was available. when the whoite testers came,
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something was available. >> reporter: if the trumps did rent to a black person, they would do so only at one building reserving the other buildings for white tenants. >> the white people would live in trump village and the people of color would live in flat bush. >> reporter: and according to the justice department, they even had a secret coding system to do it. a racial code. here's how. >> some of the applications were marked with a c which we learned that it meant colored. so that the prospective tenants who came in were noted to be colored. >> reporter: you heard her right. the department of justice alleged applications submitted by prospective african american renters were designated with a secret code such as c for colored to indicate a black person was looking to rent. in true trump fashion, donald trump hit back calling the government's accusations absolutely ridiculous.
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and telling the court i have never, for has anyone in my organization ever to the best of my knowledge discriminate ord shown bias in the renting of our apartments. >> trump's lawyer said the government suit failed to give names, addresses or specific incidences of discrimination claiming the lawsuit caused substantial damage to their business and reputation, trump took the most unusual step of suing the justice department for defamation, seeking $100 million in damages. that countersuit was tossed out by the judge. even so the trump family maintained they never discriminated based on color but were instead trying to avoid renting to people on welfare. two years later in 1975, trump and his father settled the case agreeing not to discriminate against anyone. they also promised to advertise in publications aimed at minorities, similar themselves with the details.
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the department of justice claimed victory but reportedly noting the settlement was in no way an admission of a violation. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> more now on race and trump's record on the subject from jack o'donnell, former chief operating officer of the trump plaza casino in atlantic city and the author of "trump the inside story of the real donald trump, his stunning rise and spectacular fall." i spoke to him earlier. >> jack, in your book, you write about a conversation between you and then donald trump who was then a citizen where he complained to you about an african-american employee in the casino's finance department. explain what happened. >> sure. it was really a dialogue that we had over a couple of years, anderson. but one particular instance where he referred to who was our chief financial officer, by the way, not just an employee, the top financial officer in the
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organization, and he complained to me that he didn't really like having a black guy counting his money. he went on to say, what i want counting my money is short guys with yamakas on their head. so it was a pretty shocking conversation. >> was this out of the ordinary for him to say? >> well, no. he had complained several times that he wasn't happy with this particular employee. but it was really the first time that he really honed in on the fact that he didn't like him simply because he was black. because he went on to say in this conversation that -- that he perceived this guy as being lazy and then he said but that's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. so he made it very clear that this was was a black issue. >> he spelled it out in exactly those words?
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>> he spelled it out in exactly those words. >> what did you -- how do you respond to something like this from a guy who is obviously your boss? >> well, yeah. well, anderson, first off, i was shocked but i actually took the approach that i said, donald, you know, first off, you can't be talking this way. this is wrong. you don't want people to know you think this way or you would say things like this, and i tried to back him down from that perspective. but it was very clear that he wanted this individual removed from his job simply because he was black. >> when you hear the president now say an that he's not a racist and he is "the least racist person," knowing him, having worked with him, do you believe that? >> well, i don't. and i do believe he's a racist. and further to the point,
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anderson, i believe anybody that has spent substantial amount of time around him in a casual atmosphere whether it's business or a dinner or at lunch, i believe it would be very difficult that he wouldn't express these feelings to them over time. i just find it very hard to believe that there aren't more people who know him that don't believe exactly what i believe but for one reason or another, they're not willing to say publicly that he is a racist. >> do you think he realizes he's a racist? do you think he knows it. >> well, listen, i think he's delusional. i think deep down in his mind, he wants to believe that he's not. but i believe that there is a pattern of conversation throughout his entire life where he has -- he has talked in racial stereotypes. i think he's also denigrating toward women and i think this is the way he believes deep down inside of himself. so does he believe it?
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i think at some level, he has no know exactly what he is because he continues to present this image of himself. >> you jack o'donnell, thank you. >> thank you, anderson. an important footnote, when the book first came out, he was called a disgruntled employee. then in an interview he said o'donnell'srections were probably true and later denied it all. late last week after the word got out about the president's comments, we reminded you about some of the haitians my team met when we were covering the earthquake eight years ago including this little boy who survived being trapped under rubble for more than seven days. we want to give you an update where is he now and how he and his family are doing. ♪
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house that killed his parents, surviving only on rainwater. we happened to be at the hospital in port-au-prince when he was brought in, stunned but alive. here's part of our report that aired that week when we first saw monley. >> reporter: monley elysee was brought to general hospital by his uncle, who says he found him in the rubble alive after nearly eight days. monley was covered in dust, weak, and limp. a doctor and a nurse quickly gave him an iv. >> what's he saying? >> you want to drink some juice? you want to drink some juice? >> you can tell he's very dehydrated by his skin. >> because his skin doesn't bounce back? >> yes, it doesn't bounce back. >> he's in something called starvation ketosis. so you have to be very, very careful as you start rehydrating them before you feed them again. so i'm sure he'd love some food right now, but we can't give it to him. >> that was monley in 2010. this, i'm happy to say, is monley today. he's 13 now and not just surviving, but he's thriving. with the help of the
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organization worldwide orphans and dr. jane aronson, he has been well cared for. as i said, his parents died, but he's living with relatives and his two brothers, moises and christopher. his favorite subjects in school are english and french, and he says he wants to be a doctor like the doctors who helped bring him back to life. monley and his brothers, his whole family, their strength, their humor, their determination, they are the haiti i know. the president is wrong about haiti. the way this president described haiti and previously described haitians according to a report three weeks ago in "the new york times" is ignorant for a man who claims to be like really smart. it was not just racist. his comments were really dumb. what the president has said doesn't reflect poorly on haiti. it reflects poorly on him, on his intellect, on his experience or lack of it, and on what is in his heart. thanks very much for watching. time to hand it over to chris cuomo for "cuomo prime time." >> all right, anderson. well said 37
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