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our hope for unity, greatness and charity for all. >> you have to remember how much of an influence governor romney's father had on him and governor romney's father when he was director of the housing and urban development cared very deeply about the martin luther king legacy. in speaking to that, he wanted to elevate that. but also he has a great deal of faith in what he believes is the american experiment. and speaking to all those people around the globe who see america as a shiny beacon of hope, those are principles he believes very strongly and will always speak quickly or forcefully about. >> i'm making you speak quickly. for that i apologize. kevin madden, thanks very much. >> thanks to our international viewers. "new day" continues right now. i don't want want to shut the government down. i think it would be a mistake if the democrats tried to force us to vote on amnesty. >> there are compromises being
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made on both sides. >> certainly the events of the last couple days make the likelihood of a deal more complicated. >> we have to get very important issue solved. >> bottom line, all people ought to be treated with respect. >> i know what happened. i stand behind every word i said. >> donald trump wants to change this narrative, he should hack on immigration. donald trump needs to lead on this. >> the flames are really hovering right above them, gaining momentum. >> the first thing i heard were the screams and i see the firefighters catching the babies. >> i don't feel like a hero. it's our job. i couldn't be anything else. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and allison camera toe. >> when a catch really matters is what that firefighter just did. can you imagine catching a kid from that height, all that heat and that fire. that's when they are at their best. thank god for them. good morning and welcome to your "new day." the clock is ticking as congress returns to work today.
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lawmakers are facing the very real prospect of a government shutdown and it could coincide with president trump's one-year mark in office. it is the president's disparaging comments about certain immigrants that are threatening efforts by lawmakers to strike deals on spending and immigration in just the next four days. >> president also slamming democratic senator dick durbin for allegedly misrepresenting the president's comments in that contentious oval office meeting last week. mr. president is blaming durbin for blowing up the deal to protect d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s. senator durbin is standing by his comments. we have it all covered. let's begin with abby phillips live at the white house. >> reporter: good morning. president trump is back in washington and congress is returning to work today, but they still have no immigration deal ready for them. they're facing a looming deadline over the government
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shutdown. making matters worse is this on going controversy over president trump's crude remarks in the oval office where he rejected a bipartisan immigration deal and effectively derailed the negotiations. >> the prospect of a government shutdown growing increasingly likely as a high stakes game of chicken plays out on capitol hill over including a deal for d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s in friday's must-pass spending bill. >> majority of my caucus, myself included we will not fund the government without a daca deal. >> i don't want to shut the government down. i think it would be a mistake if the democrats try to force us to vote on amnesty, but if they do, i will vote no. >> reporter: republicans now focussing on passing another short-term funding measure to keep the government open, but it's not clear they have the votes. the chair of the conservative house freedom caucus telling cnn on monday that it will be extremely difficult to convince our caucus members to vote on another short-term funding mechanism.
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so they are working to create momentum for the bipartisan deal rejected by president trump last week. >> if it was put on the floor of the house or the senate, it would get a majority vote in either one. >> weighing the political risks of shutting down the government, especially for democrats running for re-election in states that president trump won in 2016. >> we have to make sure this government runs and operates in a functional way. it takes all of us working as americans. >> reporter: multiple aides tell cnn president trump's disparaging comments about immigrants hardened democrats resolve but a republican source says the president is not bothered by the controversy. and continues to think his vulgar remarks could help him politically. still, president trump insists that senator dick durbin, quote, misrepresented what was said at the oval office meeting when mr. trump reportedly questioned why the u.s. needs more haitians and called some african countries shitholes. >> i know what happened. i stand behind every word that was said. >> lindsey graham not denied durbin's account saying his
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memory hasn't evolved. >> the discourse right now is pretty low. we're producing some pretty good policy, but those of us in my business need to up their game. it's pretty embarrassing when you have to take your children out of the room just to report the news. >> reporter: white house officials focussing on semantics for their defense telling cnn that senators tom cotton and david perdue heard mr. trump say shithouse rather than shithole. >> i don't know if changing the word from hole to house changes the impact. i am stunned that this is their defense. >> reporter: homeland security secretary will be testifying before the senate judiciary committee in just a few hours. she was among the people in that oval office meeting and has said she does not recall the president using that vulgar language. now, also questioning her are senators dick durbin and lindsey graham who said otherwise. as for that government shutdown,
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house gop leaders are meeting with rank and file members tonight to talk about their strategy for potentially funding the government with a stopgap funding measure. >> thank you very much, abby. joining us now is alex burns and chris silizza. what can you tell us about what the big items are that will be in play here with whether or not there's a shutdown slash continuing resolution for funding and daca. if they make us vote on amnesty, is that the line? >> yeah. i think it is. to be honest, unless congress has changed how it works since i've been up there, which i don't think it has, i don't see a deal on immigration and daca happening. i think the game at this point is another short-term spending deal which gives them more bargaining time on daca, chris. i just i just don't think it
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happens. i think you've spent since last thursday distracted by house versus whole. the most pointless debate in american history. so i don't think that happens. i think at this point what you should focus on is the spending math. can -- if republicans can't get any democratic votes, can they hold their own line? they have done it in the path in the short-term funding resolutions. this will be harder because as abby mentioned in her package, the house freedom caucus is not all on board as of yet. they lose a handful of them then the math in the house becomes tighter. >> alex, this is a big gamut for democrats if they decide this is what they're going to stick their convictions on and allow the government to shut down. so are they allowing to go along with a short-term spending deal if the promise of a daca fix is soon? >> i think a decisive group of democrats would be willing to go along with a short-term spending fix in exchange for some kind of
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perception of movement on a deal. as chris said, it would be a big deal for democrats to vote lock step on a vote where they know the consequences could be shutting down the government. at the same time, the folks on the left of the democratic party who want to see more confrontational approach to the white house say, look, republicans control the entire government. the government shuts down, that's not on us. that may be a short-term thinking or relatively narrow thinking on their part, but they do feel emboldened to kind of hit the ball back to the republican side of the net and say you guys fix this. you made this problem. >> let's think it through, chris. >> yeah. >> they have leverage on daca even if -- or even beyond this deadline with the cr, with the budget deal because you have this time certain that the president has set and we have to see whether or not he sticks with that timeline. so their leverage continues there. what is the back and forth on the actual spending that would make the democrats not want to do it? what's on the table on this budget funding that they
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wouldn't want? >> well, honestly, chris, i think it's primarily tied to daca. you have alex makes a really good point. what you have is the democratic caucus particularly in the senate very much split between people running for president, and the ten democrats -- let's not forget this there are ten democrats running for re-election in 2018 in states that donald trump carried including places like montana, west virginia, north dakota. so, you have them split on that because again it is sort of shutting down the government may be a bridge too far. could they do something like children's health insurance to try to incentivize more democrats to say we got something? yes, they could. i honestly think it's less what's in the specific budget c.r. deal, than an approach, than how should we approach the trump administration?
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how should we approach republicans in congress? should we as they have largely done to date, should you go along with the promise of we'll make a deal in the future on things you care about like daca or -- and this is what the 20/20 folks are advocating, do you say we're putting in the sand, this will be on them, the republicans, and we won't help them any way, shape or form. if they're going to do it, let them do it. this is about policy than positioning. >> if we pull back the frame that we're viewing this through, it is sort of a case study and object lesson in why it's going to be a virtually impossible for congress to get anything done of scale this year. just think about how long we have now spent, how long they have spent, how much political capital they have spent on a question of whether they're going to fund the government by a couple more weeks. whether they're going to get rid of a crisis in the daca situation, in the chip situation, than that was entirely self inflicted, these are elected crises. if we are starting 2018 with
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congress just plunged into turmoil over issues like these, the notion that you're going to get something big done before the midterms on this scale of tax reform on the scale of obamacare repeal, it gets really, really hard to envision when you think congress has maybe six months in its productive life left before the campaign takes over everything. >> chris, do you think -- i know that the debate over blank hole versus blank house has sometimes gotten us in the weeds. do you think, though, that that meeting and those crude remarks, did they derail this? >> yes. i think they derailed it for a couple reasons. one, they derailed it from a policy perspective that this -- the deal that was presented last thursday, which is of course now been totally overshadowed. >>' ons ago. >> hole versus house, was the deal. that was the deal. >> the one that lindsey graham and durbin went over to present, that was the bipartisan deal. >> yes, the one that the
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president promised to sign. >> right, right. i was just going to say remember that tuesday meeting a week ago today in which he said i'll sign it. i'll sign it. donald trump on immigration. so, yes, that was the deal. so not only do you have -- we've spent the time between that meeting thursday and today talking about what did he say and we know what he meant, so what he said to me doesn't really matter. but you also have the fact that that sort of stalled the policy out. these things are not easily constructed. that's why the idea that they'll just pop up a deal in the next 24 to 48 hours spend any time watching politics, this is to alex's point, they don't do big things. they don't do medium things. i'm still stunned they got tax reform through. this is not a process set up to do big things especially when your dealing with the 72 hour time frame. so that's why i'm very skeptical that suddenly a daca deal emerges between now and the end of the week. to me it's much more likely the debate is over can -- do
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democrats sign on to some sort of short-term spending deal. if they don't, can republicans find the votes within their own conference. >> alex, why are they holding on to this whole house/hole controversy. i don't get it. we've been steeped in it twice a day. they don't have a good case here. they have durbin and graham. the president is attacking the democrat calling him dicky durbin now because he loves the nicknames. here are the people who are in there. okay, so this is a lawyer let me tell you something, when someone says i can't recall, that's an engineered thing. people don't spoke like that. either you remember me saying something that's as obnoxious as this type of language or you don't. it's not the kind of thing that's going to slip past you. >> right. >> so you're getting an i can't recall from david perdue and tom cotton. they then shifted to i didn't hear it. >> shifted to he didn't use that word. >> right. that they now say he didn't say it.
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but they started i don't recall. you're going to back the president on a basis of truth, you think you would do it right out of the box. but here is the bigger point, nobody disputes the real sin that was committed in that meeting which was not his language, if people aren't used to vulgarity in language with donald trump, then they'll never be used to it. but he expressed a preference. i would rather have people from norway than from africa, south, central america. nobody disputes that he said that. that is the sin that he committed in that. that's what stuck in the craw of the democrats. why is he holding on to their lying about what i said, why? >> the two people in the meeting that changed their story about what happened, senators cotton and perdue, trying to give the president some kind of level of deny ability here, their ageneral day, they have an immigration bill that would make deep cuts in the legal immigration to the country and overhaul the way we decide who gets to come in. they call it a merit-based
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system. the president described it in rather different terms. right? so what their agenda here, the reason they are holding on to the notion that the president didn't say what you think he said is because if the american people, if congress come to see a merit-based immigration proposal as basically a coded way of saying let's keep out the black people and bring in people from norway, that is not a proposal that's going to go over well. >> from the facts-first perspective. the media went to the white house, deputy press secretary did not back off the reporting of the language that was used. >> he defended it. >> thank you krissily sa. >> then kaitlyn collins, cnn, gets contact from a staffer who says not only did he say it, we're good with it because we believe the base will like it. >> that was their starting point. how did they get to it was misrepresented and he never said it? >> no. there's really no reasonable question about whether the president said the specific vulgarity and the sort of broader point that you described
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in making. >> right. i don't get why it's covered as a controversy. they didn't deny it themselves. >> this is a president's great political gift that he gave a long, rambling interview to the wall street interview last week, he said all kinds of controversial things. on friday "the wall street journal" reported he had a nondisclosure agreement with an adult film star and they create a multi-day controversy whether he said the word i or i'd. they're enormously gifted at problemtizing a news coverage even on very, very fine points. >> that's a good word. problemtizing. >> that's a new verb. >> the longest word i usually word is mayonnaise. that's in the competition. >> that's awesome. alex, chris, thank you both very much. >> cillizza does a lot of problemtizing. >> there's sniglets running around in this studio often. >> i remember that. arizona senator jeff flake says president trump's attacks on the media reminiscent of
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♪ republican senator jeff flake is taking on the president over mr. trump's repeated attacks on the free press. senator flake will present his case on the senate floor tomorrow, but he's already sharing his concerns. >> what concerns me is when you use phrases like enemy of the people, then that -- you trace that phrase back and it was not a good origin. really was popularized by joseph stalin. what this president does, the most powerful man in the world, has lasting implications. and it has implications for journalists worldwide as well as our free press here in this country. >> here to discuss all this is douglas brinkley, cnn presidential historian and new york times journalist nicholas kristof. great to have both of you here for this discussion.
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a sitting u.s. senator will go on the senate floor and criticize the president of his own party historically speaking can you give us the significance of this? >> and on the day that the government might close. look, it just tells you there really is a type of neo civil war going on within the republican party. jeff flake is determined to tell fellow republicans that there's another road than trumpism. he's positioning himself to be a flash point person to donald trump. now, choosing stalin may have been a mistake for him out of the gate, but the point we understand that he's making is we have a president who is saying that the first amendment is garbage, that despises reporters, that's threatening journalists around the world. so i think it is a courage moment for jeff flake. that's the famous book john f. kennedy wrote about senators willing to stand up and speak
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truth to power. >> nicholas, we have a few exerts of what senator flake plans to say. let me read it for everyone. it's a testament to the condition of our democracy our own president uses words infamously spoken by joseph stalin to describe his enemies. it bears noting so fraught with malice that with malice was the phrase enemy of the people, that even khrushchev forbad its use. telling the soviet communist party that the phrase the purpose or annihilating such individuals who disagreed with the supreme leader. >> it suggests there is no comparison. >> we're allowed to have this conversation. we're criticizing the president, et cetera. >> that's right. and so that level there's just no comparison. but i am very glad that senator flake is bringing up this issue of freedom of the press.
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frankly i don't -- i think there is a problem when we journalists are the ones who are kind of patting ourselves on the back and saying we're such an important institution. it works much better when it's a republican senator, like senator flake, making that point about the importance of democracy of institutions like the press. and, you know, indeed senator flake is right that it was stalin who did use this and that soviet union in 1956 repudiated that phrase because it was so loaded and the idea that was revived by an american president, boy, it's weird. >> it's mind blowing. when you put it that way, it is mind blowing. and doug, listen, senator flake after using the comparison of joseph stalin's language says he's not comparing president trump to joseph stalin. here is what he says in his defense. >> i am in no way comparing
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president trump to joseph stalin. joseph stalin was a killer. our president is not. but it just puzzles me as to why you would use a phrase that is so loaded and that has such deeper meaning that the press being the enemy of the people. >> so doug, basically he's saying he's comparing their language. >> absolutely. i mean, donald trump is not a killer in the degree that stalin would just massacre millions of people. >> he's not a killer at all to any degree. >> exactly. just saying i think it was foolish of senator flake to try to make the analogy to stalin, but we get his point. which might get lost. the point is a powerful one and that's donald trump is very attractive to tyrants. he wants to be the only one in charge. he seems to not understand democratic processes. he's talking about stalin, but
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there's a lot of roy cohen and joe mccarthy in donald trump. there's a kind of neo critic facism he finds attractive. that's what jeff flake is going after that this is a president that does not really understand the constitution, doesn't understand things in democracy like our immigration heritage and certainly is on the wrong side of history when he talks about the press being an enemy. >> go ahead, nick. >> i think it's also important to note that there is a larger issue here. it does feel a little uncomfortable for a journalist to be ringing his hands and saying how awful the attacks on the press are, but what president trump has done is not just go after the press but systematically go after all the larger institutions in american politics and government that play referee role, so that's the courts, the judges, it's the law enforcement community, the intelligence community. and i do think that this larger
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effort to undermine these institutions is an enormously important line of attack that it's really important for all of us, whatever our political party, to stand up against. >> doug, jeff flake is retiring. so is he doing this out of just his own conscientious and wanting to kind of speak truth to power? or is there an ulterior motive tomorrow? >> he's an old style barry goldwater conservative from arizona. he sees what donald trump is and he's trying to offer an alternative way. whether or not he -- we just heard mitt romney will be running for the senate from utah, which is sort of anti-trump vote in a sense within republican family, and flake may run for president in 2020. he may run as a third party candidate, as a conservative party. he is somebody that's determined not to fade away from the public
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discourse and wants to be a finger in the eye of the donald trump and it carries some clout because there are two republican parties -- trump supporters and the establishment and blake is seeming to be the bravest of that establishment crowd. >> yeah. that's what i was getting at is what's in this for flake? he's not leaving yet, so he's going to just have this -- i don't know if it's going to be a contentious relationship with his fellow republicans while he works out the rest of his tenure? or what he's doing. >> i suspect it's something -- >> he's a man on a mission. >> what is that mission, doug? >> i just think he's a man on a mission to tell the truth that he's disgusted with donald trump, wants to cut it off and now he doesn't care what his other republicans think. that makes him free. that makes him have a certain degree of power. >> how do you see it? >> i think he's concerned about his legacy. that's important for him. and i also think that maybe there is some inspiration for us
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journalists that we don't just pat ourselves on the back and accept these roles but we also make it clear that we do accept legitimate criticisms, not as enemies of the people and that we are willing to scrutinize or own role including our screw ups and that that will make the country better but as long as one doesn't systematically try to undermine the media itself. >> that's great advice. my arm has gotten tired about patting myself on the back from all this. thank you both very much. >> thanks. >> chris? so the fate of hundreds of thousands of d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s hangs in the balance of a heated immigration debate. up next, let's talk to a d.r.e.a.m.e.r. and get a sense of what her reality is, what her anxiety is, what this could mean for her and her four american children next.
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♪ lawmakers are supposedly struggling to save a bipartisan immigration deal that could keep d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s in the united
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states. now, you keep hearing the term d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s and hear the numbers, but there are faces, there are families and there are realities that very well could be affected negatively and soon by this. this story is very personal, especially for angelica. she confronted house speaker paul ryan on this issue a year ago at a cnn town hall. listen to what he said to her -- >> it's clear that if daca gets repealed, my daughter will lose her mother and -- i'm sorry. she will lose her mother and i want you to know that daca has helped me. do you think that i should be deported and many families in my situation should -- >> angelica, i can see that you love your daughter and is a nice person who has a great future ahead of you and i hope your future is here. >> that was then. what about now?
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joining us is d.r.e.a.m.e.r. and activist angelica. it is good to have you with us. >> thank you very having me. >> these have to be very difficult days for you. what is it like for you and your kids to watch what's going on in washington right now with the d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s? >> i think it's very hard to keep coming home after work and school day for the girls and having to watch the news being very attentive to what's going on around especially with the whole immigration deal that is going on that they still haven't make up their mind. >> what do you think is going to happen? what are you afraid of? >> i'm afraid of going back to a country that i haven't been in 21 years, that i don't even think i remember. the fact that i will be coming to a country that i don't know
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and, you know, i'll be bringing my kids with me or not. i think that we all see the violence on the news, where i come from, mexico, and it's very difficult to even think about having to start thinking about making a different life. >> do you even hesitate when you think about whether or not you consider yourself an american? >> no, i don't. >> and when you hear people talking about d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s are illegals, they're illegal aliens here. is there any part of that phrase that connects to you in terms of how you see yourself? >> at first, you know, before i started being an activist and getting involved in the movement, i think that part that always hurt me in the sense that people need to get to know people like me to see that we're nothing like the media out there, that our congressmen try to portray us as criminals.
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now these days it's more like still the same thing. a lot of people have very, very little knowledge on the subject and immigration. some of us are here because the u.s. has been in our countries where they have made laws there, very difficult as far as helping the government or i guess you should say the wrong government. there's reasons why we had to migrate. so it's been very difficult about hearing people still 2018 having congressmen and people around us that doesn't -- that don't get to talk to us and get to know us a little bit better. >> you make an interesting point. one of the things that's on the table right now is what they call amnesty. and that's a sticking point for the gop. they don't want an amnesty vote because it sounds too forgiving to members of their base.
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you say this isn't about amnesty. why not? >> it's not. because if we think about the amnesty back in the '80s, what they're proposing now these days is way different. back in the day when the amnesty was approved, you get to become a legal permanent resident after five years and you did went through a background check. they didn't have as much technology as they do now. now they go through fingerprints and all of that and they verify with the fbi before giving you a benefit. our's will be limited. you know, they're trying to give us a pathway to citizenship for like 13 years and things like that. they're requiring more things now. because of the technology in everything, they're really screening for people who have committed serious crimes that will make them ineligible for a benefit. >> you know, last thing i want to do is add to your anxiety, and there is hope.
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there's such general approval by the american people to help d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s like yourself be in this country, no matter what party, the poll numbers say everybody wants the right thing to be done by the d.r.e.a.m.e.r.s, so there should be hope. but this story of jorge garcia out of michigan. i'm sure you're well aware of it. we introduced our audience to it last night. this guy similar situation to you. he was brought here as a kid 10 years old. he was never back to mexico. he doesn't know mexico as his home. he's a father. he works. he's a taxpayer. he's never had a traffic ticket. they threw him out of the country. he had to say good-bye to his family. this has to be a nightmare for you. what did it mean to you when you saw jorge's situation? >> you know, it's very difficult because, you know, we relate to the situations like that being a
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parent. i'm going to be very honest. i think the hardest part of my situation is having kids because they don't understand the situation. and even after talking to my daughter about almost eight years ago when i told her that me and her dad were undocumented, we didn't have daca at that moment, and having to explain to your kids that one day for a reason of getting pulled over with any traffic violation, we could end up being deported and they end up being here by themselves. i think the hardest part of being the parent is having to start preparing your kids for something like that. and, you know, people have asked me, how do you prepare your 17-year-old to take care of the home? she will be 18 this year. one of the things we talked about is becoming a guardian. i don't want that to happen. i want my daughter to be
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herself. i want her to be able to continue with her dreams, going to college, doing the things that she wants to do without having to step in and act as a guardian just because we don't know what's going to happen. so the fact that this person was deported after so many years being in the u.s., it's very heart breaking, especially when we go back to what i asked paul ryan if he thinks that people like me should be deported and he said no. but has he really done anything to help us, you know, seeing more -- the story about jorge is not the only one that i've heard so far within the year. so, i think that, you know, it's heart breaking to know that if i was not a parent, i don't think that i would be more concerned than it is as being a parent. still, it's not a reason for me not to worry because i haven't been in the country in very long time that i don't even remember. >> no. this is all scary stuff and it's
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understandable. angeli angelica, thank you very much for telling us your story. we will remind the speaker of the house that he said no way in hell should people like you be thrown out of the country. be well. we'll stay in touch. all right, tonight on cuomo prime time, 9:00 p.m. eastern, we're going to take this issue on and find out exactly what the sticking points are, what's the state of play and what are the promises from those in power. wait until you see this video, a car flies through the air, crashing through a building. how a tragedy was averted in just one second.
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we are following some breaking news for you. japan's national broadcaster nhk now apologizing for a text alert that reported that north korea had launched another missile. this, of course, comes on the heels of hawaii's false alert that caused pandemonium. paula ha paula hancocks is live in seoul. what happened? >> this happened just before 7:00 p.m. evening local time. and it was an alert that came out by the state broadcaster nhk and the alert read nhk news alert, north korea likely to have launched missile. evacuate. inside the building or under ground. now, there was no missile. there was nothing coming. and just a few minutes later they corrected themselves saying the news alert sent earlier about north korea missile was a
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mistake. no government j-alert was issued. but the fact is there have been j-alerts because there have been north korea missiles flying towards japan or over the top of japan. and certainly residents would have been very worried by those j-alerts and people did take cover. this is a very unfortunate mistake and the second mistake in just a few days after that alert in hawaii, saying there was a ballistic missile on its way. take cover. so it's really quite remarkable that you can have two very similar alerts that are completely wrong and just such a short amount of time. of course they do provoke reactions, especially in japan, because the north korean missile alert crisis is of a concern to residents there. chris? >> paula, thank you very much. the timing is terrible. no question about that. we're also following breaking news out of south carolina, four police officers were shot while responding to a domestic violence call. it happened just outside york
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late monday. police say the suspect took off from the house and fired at officers near the scene. two of the aefofficers had to b air lifted to the hospital. police are not disclosing the severity of the injuries yesterday. the suspect in custody. pope francis making the comments during a speech to government officials in chile. several churches were attacked ahead of his visit, some with fire bombs. the pope scheduled to celebrate an open air mass in santiago today and meet members of an indigenous group today before heading to peru on thursday. we're getting a look at an amazing video. did you see what happened there? that was a car in santa ana, california. this is dash cam video. the car hit the median and it just launched into the second story of a building. surveillance video is what showed us. it nearly clips another vehicle, flies into the air. a second later you see an
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oncoming bus drive through the same smoke that's left by the crash. imagine if that second wasn't there what would have happened there. it was a dentist's office. that's where that thing is right now. the driver arrested on suspicion of dui, no one was hurt. that car is in the second story of the building. >> i mean, by seconds no one was hurt or killed. >> would have been catastrophic. >> but how does a car catch air like that just from hitting the median? >> i guess when it hit the median it literally launched it like it was a ramp. so he had to be going really fast and perpendicular to the median, which means he was going the wrong way as well. >> don't drink and drive is the lesson. wait million you see this. this is one firefighter's life-saving catch. one of the heros who witnessed this rescue joins us next. with expedia, you can book a flight, then add a hotel, and save. ♪
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thank you for the first responders story? here it is. a rescue from a fire you need to see to believe. you know how hard that is what that firefighter just did, catching that child. shows a father desperately tossing his child. think about how hard a decision that is for him. throws him to a firefighter. firefighter makes the catch of a lifetime. family was rushing out of a giant apartment fire in atlanta. life saving rescues started before the cameras were rolling. joining us now is someone who was there and who made a difference. captain was one of the first responders, rescued a couple of kids from the burning building. first of all, thank you for being you. you guys are the best of us. we depend on you when it matters most and you came through once again. thank you. >> thank you for saying that.
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>> what else could i say. you show up at the scene. you get your ladder ready and you see people on the porch. you start climbing up the ladder and what happens? >> well, i had a plan in mind to get up on the balcony with the family and help them on to the ladder and have another firefighter on the ladder helping them down. i get about half way up and i look up and there's blue and it's a baby falling towards me. so my hands just -- i throw up my hands and catch the baby. at that point we're just reacting, no more plans. >> a 4 week old baby boy was in the blanket. is it true that he didn't wake up from his nap the entire time? >> i don't think so. i think he slept peacefully the
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whole time. he didn't squirm or anything. >> you hand off that baby already that has to be like one of the most anxiety inducing experiences. you get back on the ladder. you go back up and there are more kids. >> right. there is another little girl and i think her mom came down at this point. and i just got my hands wrapped both around them. our ladder is at such a steep angle right now that we were really worried about them falling off. i'm just assisting them down. as soon as my feet touch the ground i grab the girl and take her to the paramedics and run back to the ladder and start up. the screams are just getting terrifying from the porch at this point. i look up and the fire is really overtaking the porch. and the father is ducking and trying to get on the ladder and he still has his other little
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girl. engine seven had just arrived on scene and he yells just drop him. the father drops the baby to him. i just freeze and i say a prayer let him catch this child. and he does. he makes the most amazing catch i've ever seen. and then the father comes down and everybody makes it off safe and sound. the father did receive second degree burns but he is going to be okay. the family is going to be okay. we're just very thankful that we can all work together and make it happen. >> the love of a parent that even though he knows he is getting burned up he is not going anywhere until he gets his kids out of there. amazing dedication. >> absolutely. >> you guys exhibit the same as if these were your own kids. before when you were saying you were on the ladder and it was steep and you had the kids you
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said you were worried they were going to fall, not you. >> right. my job is to risk my life to save others. that's what i do. if it's my children and if it's my life i want somebody that's ready to risk their life to save me. so i'm going to give them that same respect when i go to work and put on the uniform, same with all the brothers and sisters i work with. when we put on our uniform we are ready to do whatever it takes to make sure that everybody gets home to their family. >> do you realize how special it is that you have an ability, a desi desire, a drive to keep going up a ladder that is headed straight into hell fire because there are people who need to be saved? do you recognize how special that is? >> i just thank god that he gave me the will and the ability to
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do this job. sometimes it does feel like we are walking in hell. i trust that god is there with us and will get us all out alive. >> god needs help down here and that's what your guys' role is because you are angels on earth. there is no picture that shows it more than this. there has never been a more important catch in that firefighter's life than the one he made that day and you made a couple before he got there. thank you so much for bringing the story to us and restoring all of our faith. there are people out there doing the right thing. the best to you. >> the best to you, too. thank you. >> are you kidding me? what kind of story? who does that? they are angels among us. we are following a lot of news. let's get after it. the threat of a government
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shutdown becoming more of a reality with each passing day. >> we will not fund the government without a daca deal. >> my bigger concerns is that his remarks don't blow up the d.r.e.a.m.er daca. >> reaction has been over the top. >> i don't know who said what. starting to look like a bunch of kids in the back of a minivan. a host of white house staffers set to testify as part of the russia investigation. >> bannon said that the heart of the case is money laundering. i think they are going to want to know what does he mean by that? >> real question is whether the intelligence committee is willing to gather the information we need to protect ourselves. >> this is new day with chris cuomo. >> it is tuesday, january 16. 8:00 here in the east. congress returns to work today but the federal government may be headed for a shutdown on friday

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