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that does it for us. time to hand it over to chris cuomo. thank you, my friend. 27 hours until the government shutsdown. it's now the senate's turn to act. we're going to test the potential outcomes and implications in realtime with players from both sides. what do you say? let's get after it. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to primetime. big night. lots of breaking news. headlines all over the place that the house has taken us one step closer to passing a short term budget deal. true but the only thing that matters is what happens next perhaps on our watch. brothers and sisters it's all about the senate. currently we believe 48 republicans out of 51 are on board. the bill could need 60 votes to pass. that means the democrats are in
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play. tonight, from senate democrats we're hearing words like resolute, determined, united and all of those go towards voting against the measure. the question there is why are they voting against it and are they making a smart play here to test that? we're going to go one-on-one with democratic senator in a moment. he had to step away because he's going to vote. things are happening right now. let's begin with facts first. this would be the first shutdown with the white house and congress controlled by the same party. this is probably news to you. it's news to me but it ain't news to the trump administration. one would thing president trump would be flexing all of his alleged deal making muscles but all indications are he's more part of the problem than the solution at this point. he blind sided people just today
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tweeting that funding for the children's health insurance program, chip, shouldn't be in the short term spending bill. the white house had to put out a statement that the president still supports the current house bill which has chip in it. this is just the latest in a series of mixed messages that are undermining the gop strategy and escalating chaos. let's have a little important reminder here about why we care. a shutdown means workers and agencies and departments considered non-essential get furloughed. they don't work but their pay doesn't come down at the same time either. the entire time of a shutdown the money is not there. 850,000 of these workers last time that the government shutdown. it's a big number including those responsible for paying out small business loans, processing pass porport passports, they stop issuing gun
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permits, national parks, zoos, museums. a senior administration official tells us tonight that they are working to minimize that. we'll have to see what that means. anything deemed essential will keep running so your postal service, social security, tsa, air traffic control. there's no immediate impact on servicemen and women. you know who else is considered essential, the people causing any shutdowns. they keep getting paid. the last shutdown, this is not small money. in 2013, $24 billion this economic activity.
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it's a big deal. we have the senator, great. he was there voting. we weren't sure if he would be here in time. he is. john tester of montana. thank you very much for making the dash for us, senator. >> pleasure to be with you. i'm going be voting against. you listed off the bad things of having the government shutdown. i hope the government does not shutdown. it's been 110 days since the fis kw -- fiscal year started. we don't have funding for rule ambulances. the list goes on and on. our basis job to do is to set forth a budget and fund the programs that are critical to this country. we haven't done anything.
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haven't done anything with the southern border, northern border. we're not addressing our military. this isn't the first time. we had patch after patch after patch. >> i voted for a of them. at some point in time we have to do our job, chris. >> i hear you. >> the job is funding the government. i have to tell you. i haven't talked to a machine or woman, democrat or republican that hasn't said what you just said. we have the patch work, we have to get i going. we have to pass a budget. you're saying the same thing but you're not getting it done. you voted yes to proceed because you want to debate this bill. you're going to vote no against it but you're saying you hope the government doesn't shutdown. why would you vote no? >> i think we need force the leadership on the other side of the aisle to take this issue seriously and they haven't for 110 days. i think senator mcconnell has
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had this in mind from the get-go. >> if mitch mcconnell would have wanted a budget, we would have had it. we have been dealing with taking away fourth amendment rights. the budget should have been front and center. they are not taking it seriously. you're talking to all of them so why don't we sit down and get it done. we have 28 hours left to go. >> schumer just -- am i right that senator schumer from new york proposed another patch.
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is that true? >> i heard that from some of the press. >> would you go for that? >> depends if there's an agreement to get something done. >> it makes sense to you. if you don't like patch, why would you want an even smaller patch? >> because there has to be an agreement to do a patch. >> you want an agreement to make an agreement and this will buy you the time to make it? >> i want an agreement that says we've got a day or two days. we can do it in the next 28 hours. >> that means you guys are close. otherwise schumer is wasting his time. >> that's a better question for leadership. >> let's talk about what because the big thing we keep hearing about is daca. the are two questions. the first one is why would bit so impornt to have daca in this as opposed to you have until march to do this.
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then the opposite question which is are you guys being aggressive enough to get daca done. i'm coming at you both ways but there's two ways to look at it. >> there's a bipartisan agreement to get daca done. i think we ought to get daca done. it should have been done months ago. we are where we are. in that agreement had some great border security measures that need to be done and deals with a lot of other issues. >> the president says it's not adequate. >> he doesn't know what's in the deal yet. >> graham and durbin went to him before he went vulgar and started talking about norway. he said this isn't what i wanted. it's not enough of what i want. my wall is not in there. >> chris, i served as ranking member on the appropriations committee and what's in that bill is what he asked for this year. there's another year next year. i think they --
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>> he says i want 18 billion. you gave him a tenth of that. >> 18 billion over ten years. it's one year. it's there. we're there. all you got to do is take a look at it and want to come to a deal. it's the president that said we need a good old fashioned shutdown. it's mitch mcconnell that hasn't done anything to get our budget passed for 110 days. let me ask you this. i'm not supposed to be asking the questions. >> you can ask first and i'll decide. >> are we supposed to just continue to be governing from emergency to emergency. stopgap measure to stopgap measure or is it better for the american people to have some permanency in their budget? it's not asking too much and fund some of the programs that are so critical to america's families and small businesses. >> there has to be a reason i'm hearing the same thing from both
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sides. it's probably symptommatic of the toxic division that's going on now. all of you seem to have the same goal, get something done. the divisiveness that's down there is keeping you frozen in your places. daca is a perfect example whether it's the president saying it's a bill of love. the democrats making the arguments they make. the republicans saying it's not fair to say we don't care about the dreamers. we were boxed in by obama with this. now you have the democrats a i'm not sure, som of you are saying no daca, i'm done. it's too urgent. it's too inhumane. it's wrong. then there are others of i think daca will get done. you're in that position and a couple others. which is it with you democrats? >> i think that daca is important but i also think there's other issues that are
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very important like funding for community health centers and making sure the 340b cuts on prescription drugs that would hammer my hospitals don't go away. let's talk about the division for a second. i walked into the heart building this morning at 6 or 7:00 with mike rounds, a republican out of south dakota. he said can you believe we're here again with a short term fix. i said you're exactly correct. let's work together and get this fixed. he says i'm with you. that's a south dakota republican and a montana democrat. there's division. leadership needs to step up and lead and haven't done it for 110 days. >> democrat and republican, if you can get one with you, any time you want to come on the show and talk about what you're proposing and who is stopping it from getting it done, you'll get time. morning or night. >> i think it's pretty obvious. we had this done a long time ago if we had good leadership on the other side of the aisle. >> they're saying the same thing about you guys.
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>> republicans control the house, senate and the white house. they have to lead and they haven't for 110 days. it isn't because of the rank and file. it's totally on leadership. >> i hear what you're saying and the criticism. you have a unique amount of leverage because the senate will be the pivot on what happens with this budget process and the fill butsibuster rule puts you lot of leverage. i appreciate this realtime update on where things stand. you're always welcome to come on and discuss what matters. >> it's always good to talk to you opinion i hop we come to a deal that funds the government till the end of the year it's as simple as that. >> i hope the people need progress. let's see what happens. >> we're going to go to political commentary. the urgency is there. the relevance is there.
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the democrat vs ts have the bal their hand. what is worth shutting down the goth for a -- government for a democrat? >> that's a great question. there are five senate republicans that are on record opposing the version of the house continuing resolution that just passed. yes we need 60 votes but the republicans caucus is not even all on the same page on this bill. that's problematic. what democrats in the senate are saying is there's a bipartisan agreement in the senate that can pass. that can pass with the 60 votes needed with all the democrats. >> on immigration, on daca in.
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>> on not just on daca. yes, it's a bipartisan bill but gets everything done. it gets daca done. provisions for the military. it has stuff in there about chip and the community base health centers. the problem is republicans, mitch mcconnell is refusing to put the bill on the floor because donald trump is saying he might not sign it. >> i got your point. hold on. in fairness to mcconnell he said somethg that was very dangerous for him. he said ion't know what the president wants. if i knew, i wouldn't be spinning my wheels. >> true. >> durbin and graham do exactly what he asked. they come with a compromise bill two days after he asked for one. he sand bags them, according to durbin or gets bad advice according to graham and says this deal isn't good for me in a room of hard liners. what was that about? >> i think he was trying to say get your head in the game. if you really want to negotiate,
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get people like the hispanic caucus who general kelly met with yesterday sitting down with people like david purdue and tom cotton. that's real negotiation. three moderate republicans and three democrats or maybe very liber liberal, moderate on this issue. they're willingness to sign off on a bill. you got six votes. you need 60 to move something forward. uch a whole lot more democrat and republicans who need to be in the room in order to mover forward. the president was saying that's not going to happen. i want to point out something. i served on the appropriations committee. the house passed the bill, i believe in september. it's been sitting in the senate ever since then opinion mitch mcconnell has not been able to mover forward because he's got to get 60 votes.
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he's got to have nine democrats. up until recently eight decrats. >> more than that. now he's short on his own side. what about that? >> that's right. i want to say one of the bills that hasn't moved is homeland curt. if there's a bill where there's a case for bipartisan, why hasn't the homeland security appropriations sub committee moved their own bill. that's not mitch mcconnell's fault. that committee would move it. senator tester sounds like an earnest guy. he's in leadership on that bill. i think they should mover it. >> let's hold it right there. it's a good appetizer. we're going to get more information tonight. i'm going to come back to you guys. i love you both for sticking around. that's just round one. we'll keep following the breaking news on capitol hill. as we learn more we'll go back to them for their take. the leadership that seems to be a big concept here.
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the house approved a short term spending bill to avert a shutdown. this cries out for leadership. someone to bring the sides together. there's all these factions and couples going on. while on one level that's a good thing. it is good to see people working together on both sides of the aisle. we're seeing it. right now they need a bigger flu influence and there isn't. president trump has only made the job harder for his party. he started gumming up the works last week. he said i will pass whatever you guys bring me if you agree. you remember that? all right. then i will decide what happens. two days later his golf buddy come show him a bill. no. he says i'm not going to do it. durbin said they were sand bagged. then what happens. a bill of love that he said he wanted goes away. he goes vulgar, expresses a
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preference of white immigrants from norway versus brown ones from everywhere else. that made democrats dig in. then you started to hear how much daca mattered in realtime now between now and march as opposed to the deadline the president said. the wall, he's moved on that. it was moving a position toward the reasonable mind position where so many others have been. you have general john kelly come out, chief of staff. he says he has evolved on the wall and probably uninformed. that embarrassed the president. reportedly he was furious and he says in a tweet, which he loves, build the wall. the wall is real. it's never evolved. it's never changed.
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boom. he says when i are do nafta, it will be fine. >> he's changed his attitude toward the daca issue and the wall. he's evolved in the way he looks at thing. this president is very flexible in terms of what is in the realm of possible. >> if the democrats accepted this and if it had been manifested in policy considerations by the republicans then you would have gotten a deal on security. that's what we keep being told. reportedly these words uninformed made them furious.
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he says no chip. it's going to fund it for six years. he says it shodn't be part of the short term build spendg bill. then what happen he says no chip. the white house has to come out soon aftera and say the presidet still supports the house version of the bill. the one that has chip in it. on top of this confusion and the urgency would demand that the president is here and really involved. he says, i'm leaving. tomorrow he's going back to florida, his golf course and very telling, there's no word of the gop leadership asking him to stay. that's what fore means. he's playing golf. i shouldn't have x'ed it out. he's going to do it.
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it's always good to see your face. >> thank you. >> you heard how i'm lag it out here. do i have it wrong or has the president made this more difficult? >> what the president has done quite frankly is pretty consistent with a number of presidents have done. that matter the house and the senate. it's difficult to be 100% consistent when you have different circumstances that face you on a regular basis and you have to change your stance quite frequently in order to adjust to the different circumstances that face you. it would have easier in the house was more consistent, the house and the white house was more consistent. that way you could better negotiate but unfortunately that does not seem to be the nature of politics in washington, d.c. >> let eets stick with the president for a second. where do you see any consistency? if you make a deal, i'll sign it. they come to him with a deal, he doesn't sign it. people try to move him on the
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wall, try to make it more what people like you think it should be which is some places you need a hard barrier, you make it. some places you need a fence, you use it. some places it's sensors. some places it's manpower. it seems that's the way he's going to move. good for democrats to hear it and then he undoes it and then he says no chip in the bill krou just voted on. is that consistency or is that like crazy on display? >> i'm going to confess i don't know what the white house position is for border security or with respect to this continuing resolution to fund the government or with respect to fund the government for the rest of this fiscal year. >> how can you not know? you do your job? your reputation is you're studio studious. you talk to people. you're involved. how could you not know what t white house wants? >> well, i think the analysis you just gave is on a example of why nobody can know. you don't have the consistency
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that you would like from the white house on this particular set of issues. >> how is he being like every other president because a lot of these men have been men of principle. you could agree with some, disagree with others but now knew pretty much where they were going to be. can't say that about trump. >> let's read george bush first. no new taxes. this is not unique to this president. they are inconsistent with the reality of governing. >> you don't think it's odd at this point in this process you don't know where the president is on security or on the bill especially when these things are so important and he said he would drive this process.
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>> i believe the president will sign the continuing resolution that passed the house of representatives that eliminates the threat of a shutdown. i do not know what the president's position would be based on whatever amendments the senate may come up with. i have some degree if the senate will pass our bill, the president will sign it. this threat will be over with and behind us. >> the idea that the democrats have leverage in the senate especially with mcconnell being short some votes on his own side. daca matters to them. what is the chance that a daca deal gets done in any kind of short term and added to th cr? i anticipate there will be some kind of position in this resolution and its expiration in mid-february. i do not anticipate you will see
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that kind of resolution coming forward today or tomorrow or on saturday or any time to prevent a government shutdown if that's the hang up. there are negotiations that are going now. the diversity, whatever you want to call it. also elimination of chain migration and border security. that seems to be the frame work of negotiations right now. whether that will produce something that can pass in the house and senate, i don't know, can't say. we won't know until we have something firm. >> quick question before i let you go. when it comes to a shutdown, if it is one, you guys get paid. you can't change congressional pay until the beginning of the year. would you be in favor of changing it so if there's a shutdown you don't get paid?
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>> historically speaking every government employee has been paid in full. >> often it's back pay, right? very often people live check to check. they need their money when they are supposed to get it, not when you decide to get your act together. >> that's one way to look at it. the other way to look a at it the federal workers aren't working, they are getting paid for not working when they get that back pay. there's some benefit to not having to do the work and still get the money. with respect to the 27th amendment, i'm willing to consider anything and that's one ofrt options that perhaps we should look at in house and the senate. you've hit me kind of off guard having the kind of in-depth thought i would like to have the kas ka k scading effects might be.
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>> the shutdown will be tomorrow so you shouldn't be surprise by these questions. people don't like hearing you keep getting paid when you're the reason the government shuts down. >> i understand. i'm frustrated too. >> time is money for people and they need money on time. if you say to your bank, i'll get my check in two weeks, remember i was furloughed. you don't get a good answer. we're hoping it doesn't answer. you're always welcome to discuss what happens. >> thank you so much. have a good evening. more breaking news tonight. a key figure in the russia investigation tells lawmakers he suspected a quote possible crime involving the trump organization and the russians. this came from the co-founder of fusion gps. exactly what is he alleging. we're going to go one-on-one
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news. we're watching capitol hill for any developments on the shutdown but there's also breaking news in the russia investigation. there's new details about what the founder of the firm behind the dossier they you all know about on candidate trump. let's go with jackie spear, a member of the house intelligence committee. >> thank you, chris. >> let me not do what i said i was going to do. i want to ask you one question about the process of what's going on with the shutdown. i asked congress mo brooks, a republican from alabama. you get paid as social employees and it's not just irony. it angers people that you don't do your job and pass a budget. the government shuts down and you get paid. i know it's in the constitution but the word amendment means that things can be changed in that document. do you think it should be considered? >> if past experience tells me
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anything and california we were terrible at passing the budge r budget on time and initiate ifr wads passed that said that members would have their pay docked if they didn't have the budget passed by july 1st. you know what happened after that, the budget always gets passed on timeincentive. >> something to think about. we have to deal with that in terms of what is going on in the investigation. you know that adam hiff has en saying that money laundering is a big consideration. is that your appraisal as well? >> money laundering is a huge component. the foreign corrupt practices act which really requires anyone who does business with a foreign national company, government has to do due diligence to mike sake the money is not tainted. it's not being laundered. i think there's plenty of evidence to suggest there's been
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money laundering going on in many of the real estate deals that were done by the trump organization. >> just to be clear, are we talking about just old things that may have involved paul manafort and what he was doing before he was part of this campaign or any consideration of things involving the trump businesses? >> specifically about the trump businesses. buying a mansion at 40 million, selling it four years later at $90 million and in 2008 the then donald trump had a 50 or 40 million dollar personal liability on a loan and how convenient that amount of money was made available in that transaction. many of the hotels, if you look at the hotels deal whether this
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toronto or panama, more often than not those deals were never intended to have the hotels open with them weren't real estate developers of hotels. they all had interesting and oftentimes shady pasts and all of a sudden there's this deal done with the trump organization and all of a sudden the deal never comes to fruition. >> is it connected in any way to what you're supposed to be investigating with russian interference? >> the extent these were russian persons, russian entities i believe it does. >> is there any indication that what you're looking at parallels what the special counsel is looking at? >> i can't speak to what the special counsel is doing. they have wide discretion to look at any number of things. it could be very well be part of what he's looking at.
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>> i know you can't tell me specific proof but we also know that i like to ask questions even though i know it goes into a realm you don't want me too. without talking about the proof, are we just talking about questions and speculation and curiosity or do you believe that there's been any evidence of meat on the bones of these type of allegations? >> relative to money laundering? >> yeah. >> that's not something we are sperveg l specific looking at. we're looking at the russian sbe interference in our election and the trump campaign. mueller is in a position to do that. if you start tracking these various projects you can see a connection. you can see a relationship
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everyone works for the government. >> is your sense of this issue of money laundering trump and relationships with the russians only as strong as the testimony of glen shriimpson, fusion gps founder? >> no. i think that's been a great deal of open source documentation about a lot of these deals. why is it you have the trump son saying we get most of our deals from russia, most of our business comes from russia. they are buying 3, 12, 6 condos in trump properties and they're buying them in cash. how is the trump properties went from some 30% that were llcs where you don't know who the actual buyer is to 70% of the deals being llcs? it all doesn't add up.
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i don't want the president gaining benefit financially by being president and some of that is going on with the trump organization today. the fact that the russian ties to the trump organization were so strong and coincidentally you have the russians interfering in our election, it becomes very disturbing. >> very provocative questions. do you agree with congressman schiff that his belief that the white house kept steve bannon from answering certain questions and maybe corey lewandowski as well? >> i don't think there's any question. >> for both gentlemen or for bannon? >> certainly for mr. bannon. it was peculiar to corey saying
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i'm going to answer every question. his attorney said han't answer questions because he's not prepared to answer these questions even though they dealt with a period of time during the campaign. i think the white house is trying to pull a bunch of strings. >> it wouldn't be illegal but it's interesng as a tactic. i appreciate you giving us this information very much. >> thank you. >> all right. breaking tonight, the house just passed a bill to keep the government funded for another month. the house did. the senate is now really holding the fate of this situation in its hands. what's going to happen? there are votes going on right now. we believe senate will move towards debating this bill and going towards a final vote. let's bring back what we just heard from jackie spear. money laundering, the trump organization, russia. the three keywords that will start round two. turn up your swagger game with one a day men's.
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mitch mcconnell. he's making, for him, fairly impassioned argument about how there is no urgency on the immigration issue. that democrats are saying we want to shut down the government because of daca and immigration. he is saying while is a mutual concern and both sides have an interest in fixing it, there's no urgency now. there's no reason to shut down the government for it. the deadline for that is in march. an artificial deadline set by the president. now chuck schumer is responding. >> the other side, your side, leader, that didn't want go along with that agreement. it's fair and decent agreement where each side gave. it's an important agreement. it's a vital agreement. no one, no one, no one -- >> senator chuck schumer, the democrat leader from new york saying there's a deal on the table. they brought it to the president and he negated it. he said he wouldn't go for it.
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that's why we're in the jam we're in. we'll keep dipping in. we can move the needle right now with the second round of the great debate. let's bring in cnn political commentators. i want to do one question about this and one question about what jackie spear just told us. that will be news to a lot of people's ears. simone sanders, you heard the argument. daca matters. immigration matters. the humanity is real. the urgency is not. you have until march to fix it. why shut down the government for that? >> again, to be clear, it would not be democrats shutting down the government. it's the republicans inability to govern and keep their caucus together and get a deal from the republican president to do that. since donald trump sets his deadline in september, 15,500 young people have lost their protective status. that means they cannot work and their lives are living in limbo. it's not just march if we don't
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come to a consensus that something happens. there's real implications for these young people now. >> jack, why do you people ignore, on the right, there's this cost on the daily basis? we brought you that story of brought here at 10. been here 30 years. now he's in mexico city. he's never been -- he hasn't lived there in 30 years. split apart because of this law. now, fair point, he's not a dreamer, he didn't make it, but it shows the necessity of the issue, the urgency right now. >> and i think that that's what the president is saying, that look, let's go till march if you want to work it out. if you're serious about working it out. this has not been around since the president made his proclamation. it didn't start with president obama. it's been going on for years. democrats have been in the majority during that piod as have republicans. but i want to say this. i think the path forward. i believe, and i actually heard a rumor just a few minutes ago,
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chris, that what schumer will do is put a substitute amendment on the floor for a short-term cr, probably a five-year deal. i don't think the democrats are going to come on board for a one-month cr. if they want to stay in the game and drive this debate, they're going to put a short-term cr. and the reason why i think this is probably true is because a house member told me they are actually staying in town right now. they were going to vote and adjourn. sought fact the house is hanging around means there's a high probability the senate will not pass this cr in its current form but instead substitute a short-term one, and we will be having this debate over the weekend. and that could be a good thing because sometimes, you know, making people stay in town you can get something done. >> you said five-year. you mean five-day. >> five-day, excuse me. five-year probably too long. >> the fact of the matter is, chris -- >> go ahead, simone. >> if they put this bill on the
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floor, if they put the current bill on the floor as the house passed it it will not pass and it won't just pass not because of the democrats, they don't have the republican votes to get it done. again, there's a bipartisan bill that can pass the senate. they should put -- >> simone. >> i'm just saying -- >> it's a matr of math. there's 51 -- >> wait. i can count. you've got 51 republicans but if you have -- look, if you have 51 republicans but 5 of the 51 are going to vote no on that bill -- >> you don't know that there's five no votes. >> i'm telling you there are five no votes on record saying -- >> how do you know -- >> -- they're not going to support the bill, congressman. all i want to say is this -- >> fishing for a better deal. >> all i want to say's is help me here, if there's a bipartisan bill that will in fact pass the senate and the only reason they're not going to put it on the floor is because the republican president is going to veto it, let him be the reason the government shuts down. >> there is a bipartisan bill. it just passed the house. it keeps the government funded till february. >> that's not bipartisan.
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>> the president -- >> there are five republicans on record. republican senators on record. let me hold up -- >> hold on one second. hold on one second. >> if you're voting no you're voting no to children's health care -- >> just to bring people up to speed, there will be no more votes in the senate tonight. all right? now, that means something good and something bad. one, that means you're not going to have any progress tonight. however, that means there's time for deliberation. >> and there will be that short-term cr -- >> we'll see if what jack is hearing -- he's got good contacts in congress. but we'll see if that winds up what the democrats will put forward, which is basically just buying time to continue this negotiation. now, that is good. ish. ish, symone. because i have to tell you, i think it is fair criticism that the leverage, the real leverage the democrats have -- and i get your argument that the republicans don't have the vote. but look, the democrats are in play here.
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they have leverage. how they're using that leverage is unclear. what they really want in a daca deal, what they really would agree to has not been their focus as much as flexing their muscle and the leverage. so now if schumer does do what jack says and he buys himself some time, they have to move, they have to ask for real things. they have to come to the table. do you think they're ready? >> i absolutely think democrats are ready to come to the table. and i would push back on the notion that they have not been clear on what they want. it is the republicans that have jumped around and not been clear. >> trump has jumped around. but there's been a lot of haggling with republicans and democrats. and the democrats have been saying we won't vote unless daca's in it but now they have to put meat on the bones of exactly what they want. >> they absolutely do. and i think with time that will come. i am happy to hear that we might have some time to get this thing done. bute ear. democrats want to fund the government. a bipartisan solution to support all of these things. let's get it done -- >> i've got you.
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let me report some news. symone, jack. jack, thank you for that tip. next drink's on me. >> it's a rumor. we don't know. >> well, you put it out there, now it's on you, my friend, and i'll come right back to you when it's not true. let's take a break right now. thanks to both of you. we have two breaking stories on capitol hill. and three major interviews. and you have -- you have a lot to say, by the way. i'm @chriscuomo, keep tweeting with your questions, with your comments, with your feelings about it. i'll respond as i can in the break, and we'll talk about some of them at the end. you can also use the hashtag -- what is it? cuomo prime time. i was going to say new day. nope. that's in the morning. social status. next. when you don't sleep, it doesn't matter. get a samsung galaxy s8 free. plus, unlimited family plans come with netflix included. so, you can watch all your netflix favorites on your new samsung phones. join the un-carrier and get a samsung galaxy s8 free.
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blaming the seller of a house for not giving the applicant a mortgage. logical fallacy." foo long, complicated. but we'll end on that because you know what? the situation is taking too long and it's very complicated but that's the way d.c. works right now. thank you for being with us, watching this in real time. don't forget, i will be there with allison tomorrow morning on "new day" starting at 6:00 a.m. "cnn tonight" with don lemon, the man, starts right now. here's the breaking news. the house pass a short-term bill to avoid a government shutdown for now. the senate is a very different story. this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. the clock is ticking. you see it right there on the right of your screen. and it all comes down to what the senate does. if they don't pass this bill, the federal government will shut down in a little under 26 ours. but remember, this is a bill that simply kicks the can down the road,
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