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antigay comments stretching back years. he said black americans had lack morals and another time declared he hated gay people. talking about all gay people. every one of them. he was the host of a raid ra ra show called sound of freedom. 27 hours until the government shuts down. it's the senate's turn to act. in realtime with players from both sides. what do you say? let's get after it. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." big night. big night. lots of breaking news. headlines all over the place. tla the house has taken us one step cloers to passing a short term budget deal. true. but the only thing that matters
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is what happens next. perhaps on our watch. it's all about the senate. currently we believe 48 republicans out of 51 are on board. the bill could need 60 votes to pass. ha means the democrats are in play. tonight from senate democrats we're hearing words like resolute. determined. united. and all of those go towards voting against the measure the question there is why are they voting against it and are they making a smart play here? we'll test that. one on one with democratic senator. john tester in a moment. he had to step away. in realtime, he's going to vote. things are happening right now. we'll get a real sense of spontaneous sense of where things stand. as always let's begin with facts first. this would be the first shut down ever with the white house and congress controlled by the same party. this probably news to you it was news to me. but it ain't news to the trump
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administration. so one would think president trump would be flexing all of his alleged deal making muscle. but all indications are he is more part of the problem than the solution. at this point. he blind sided people just today tweeting that funding for the children's health insurance program, chip. shouldn't be in the short term spending bill. the white house had to put out a statement the president still supports the current house bill. which has chip in it. the latest in a series of mixed messages. that are under mining the gop strategy and certainly escalating cay ys. so, let's have an important remind here about why we care. a shut down means worker at agency ands departments considered non-essential get furloughed. they don't work. but pay doesn't come at the same time either for the shut down duration. the entire time of a shut down the money is not there.
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850,000 of these workers last time. that the government shut down. it's a big number. including those responsible for paying out small business loans. processing passports, the bureau of alcohol, ta back koe firearm and explosives. national parks, zoos. they're working to minimize that. anything deemed essential will keep running. postal service, social security. the tsa, air traffic control. still in play. the pentagon civilian employees won't get paid. but there's no immediate impact on servicemen and women. that said their paychecks could dry up if the shut down goes into february. here's the best part. you know who else is considered essential? irony of irony. the people causing any shut down that happens. members of congress. they keep getting paid because
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it's in the constitution. in the 27th amendment. isn't that nice and convenient? meanwhile the last shut down this is not small money we're talking about. in 2013, $24 billion reportedly in economic activity. all right so it's a big deal. we are -- we have the senator great. literally he was the there voting. we weren't sure he would be here in time. good news he is. john tester of montana. thank you for making the dash for us. >> pleasure to be with you. >> what did you do? how are you voting? >> i voted to proceed. i'll vote against. i'll tell you why. you listed off the bad things that happened with the government shut down. i hope the government doesn't shut down. the bottom line is congress needs to do its job. it's been 110 days since this fiscal year started. and we still don't have a budget. we don't have funding for chip. we don't have funding for
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community health centers. no funding for rural ambulances. the list goes on and on. in our basic job to do here is people in congress is to set forth a budget, and fund programs that are critical to the country. we haven't done anything. haven't done anything with the southern border or northern border. not addressing military. guess what? this isn't the first time. we had patch after patch. voited for all of them. at some point in time we have to do our job. >> i hear you. >> funding the government. >> i have to tell you. i haven't talked to a man or woman, democrat or republican. that hasn't said what you just said. with the patch work we have to get it going. pass a budget. you're all saying the same thing. but not getting it done. just to make it cler, you voted yes to proceed. because you want to debate this bill. you're saying you'll vote no against it. but saying you hope the government doesn't shut down. why would you vote no if you
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don't want the government to shut down? >> i think we theed to force the leadership. on the other side of the aisle to take this issue seriously. and they haven't for 110 days. i will tell you something else, i think senator mcconnell had this in mind for the get go. to use this for political reasons. i'm not here working for a plit cat party. i'm here to do what's right for the country. if mitch mcconnell wanted a budget we would have a budget. instead of dealing with a budget we have been dealing with taking away fourth amendment rights. the bug should have been front and center. they're not taking this seriously. let's all sit down and get it done. why don't we do it? we have 28 hours left. the truth is you should have a clock up saying it's been 110 days and congress has done nothing. nothing. it is time to go to work.
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it's time to work for the people. and the short term patches aren't getting the job done. >> schumer, from new york proposed a very short term whatever, another patch. is that true? >> i heard that from some of the press. >> would you vote for that? >> it depends if there's an agreement to get something done. >> i don't understand. if you don't like patches, why would you want an even smaller patch? >> because there has to be an agreement before we do a patch that we'll do something. >> you want an agreement to make an agreement? this will buy the time to make it. >> we can do in 28 hours if we want to. >> that means you're close. right? otherwise schumer is wasting his time. >> i have not -- i have offered my opinion to try to get to a point where we can get things in the bill that work for the american people.
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>> the big thing that we keep hearing about from your side is daca. there are two questions. the first one is why would it be so important to have daca in this opposed to you have until march to do that. why would it have to be there now. and the opposite question. which is are you guys being aggressive enough to get daca done because of the emergency? the two ways to lock at it. >> i look at it from another way. there's a by partisan agreement to get it done. we ought to get it done. it should have been done months ago. we are where we are. in the agreement great border security measures that need to be done. and deals with a lot of other issues. >> president says it's not adequate. >> look, he said it's not adequate. he doesn't know what's in the deal yet. that's. >> graham and durbin went to him. before he went vulgar and talked about norway. this isn't what i want it's not enough of what i want. chain migration or the lottery.
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my wall isn't in there. >> i will tell you i serve as ranking member on the appropriation committee for homeland security. what's in the bill is what he asked for this year. there's another year next year the chain migration issue they made great advances on. >> i want 18 billion. you gave him a tenth of that. >> 18 billion over 18 years. it's there. we're there. all you have to do is take look and want to come to a deal. the president says we need a good old fashion shut down. and mcconnell hasn't done anything for the budget in 110 days. are we supposed to just continue to use to be governing to emergency to stopgap measure to stopgap measure? is it better for the american people to have permanency in the
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budget. and fund the programs that are critically important to america's families and small businesses? >> let's look at why. there has to be a reason i'm hearing the same thing from both sides. it's probably symptomic of just the toxic division going on right now. it gives us a little bit of hope. it seems that all of you seem to have the same goal. get something done. go back to citizens with something. but the divisiveness this is rampant is keeping you frozen in places. daca is a perfect example. whether the president saying it's a bill of love. democrats making the arguments they make. republicans saying it's not fair to say we don't care at the dreams. nothing has been done. now you have the democrats and i'm not sure about it, help bhe this. some of you are saying no daca i'm done. it's too urgent. it's too inhumane. it's wrong. if daca is not part of it i'm
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out. i think da cca will get done. which is it with the democrats? >> i think daca is important. i think there's other issues that are very important. like funding for community health centers. making sure the cuts on prescription drugs which will hammer hospitals don't go away. let's talk about the division. i walked into the building this morning at 7:00. with a republican out of south dakota. he says can you believe this? we're here again with the short term fix? i said you're exactly correct. let's work together and get this fixed. he says i'm with you. a south dakota republican and democrat. leadership needs to step up and lead. they haven't done it for 110 days. >> i'll make you a deal. democrat and republican if ulk you can get one with you. any time you want to come on the show and talk about what you're
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proposing and who's stopping you from getting it done. you'll get time. morning on night. >> if we had good leadership on the other side of the aisle. >> they're saying the same thing about you guys. we're stuck. >> republican ts control the house and senate. they control the white house. they have to lead and a they haven't. they've done nothing. >> you have unusual leverage. >> the rank and file wants to do things. it's on leadership. >> i hear what you're saying. right no you have a unique amount of leverage. the senate will be the pivot. and the filibuster rule puts you with a lot of leverage. how do you use it, we'll see. i appreciate this realtime update on where thing ds stand. you're always welcome to come on and talk about what matters. >> i hope we come up with a deal that funds the government until the end of year. simple as that. >> the people need progress.
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that brings us to round one. a couple of different times we'll go to political comment ta tors. symone sanders. the relevance is there. let's go with it. symone sanders i start with you. the democrats i heard what the senator tester said about gop leadership. that's why it's not here it's not rank file. it's the leadership and president. that's his say. but, the democrats have the ball in their hands because of the 60 vote rule. in the senate. what is worth shutting down the government for democrats? >> so that's a great question. i want to help clear something up. i think if senator tester was still with us he would agree. there are five senate republicans on record opposing the version of the house continuing resolution that just passed. yes, we need 60 votes. but the republicans caucus is
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not even all on the same page on this bill. that's a problem. what democrats and the senate are saying is there's a by partisan agreement that can pass. with the 60 votes needed with all the democrats. >> on immigration, on daca? >> it's, yes a by partisan bill that gets everything done. daca, it provisions for the military. it has the stuff about chip. and the community base helts center. the problem is republicans mental angui mitch mcconnell is refusing to put that on the floor. the president might not sign it. >> i got your point. hold on. let jack in on this. in fairness to mcconnell. he said i don't know what the president wants. if i knew i wouldn't be spinning myheel w durbin and graham do exactly what when he ask theyome with a compromise bill. two days after he asks.
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and jack, he sandbags them according to to durbin. or gets bad advise and says no way. this is no good for me in a room of hard liners. >> what he's trying to do is say get your head in the game. if you want to negotiate get people like the hispanic caucus. who kelly met with yesterday. sitting down with people like cotton. and purdue. that's real negotiation. there moderate democrats and republicans. their willingness to sign a bill. you got six votes unfortunately you need 60. it's not a real negotiation. graham and durbin worked closely with each other on immigration over the years. they know you have a lot more democrat and republicans who need to be@room in order to move forward. the president was saying that's not going to happen. i want to point out something. i served on the appropriation committee i want a chairman of
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three subcommittees. the house passed its appropriation bill i believe in september. it has been sitting in the senate ever since then. mitch mcconnell hasn't been able to move forward. he has to get 60 votes. nine democrats. but. >> more than that. he's short on his own side. what about that? >> one of the bills that hasn't moved is homeland security. i think if you're talking about a bill where there's a case for by partisan ship, why hasn't the homeland security appropriation subcommittee move their own bill? that's not mitch mcconnell's fault. that committee is move it. senator tester sounds like an earnist guy. he's in leadership on the bill. they should move it. they don't have to have mitch mcconnell to sign off on it. >> it's a good appetizer. we have to take a different course. we'll get more information tonight. i'll come back to you.
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i love you both for sticking around. thanks to symone and jack. that's round one. we'll follow the breaking news on capitol hill. as we learn more we'll go back. the leadership. where is it? we'll press freedom caucus member about what's holding up the works on the senate side. they got it done in the house. we'll talk to you in a second. having moderate to severe
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thing. it is good to see people working together on both sides of the aisle. we're seeing it. right now they need bigger influence. there is none. president trump leader of the gop has arguably only made the job harder. for his party. he started gumming up the works last week. you remember the by partisan group the meeting with e fwet to watch it in realtime. he said i will pass whatever you guys bring me if you agree. do you remember that? all right. then here it is. i will sign what happens? two days later his golf buddy lindsey graham and durbin come show him a bill. no he says i'm not going to do it. durbin says they were sandbagged. then what happens. the bill of love he said he wanted goes away. he goes vulgar. expresses a preference for immigrants from norway over brown ones from anywhere else. you started hearing more about how much daca mattered in realtime right now.
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opposed to between now and march. which is the dead slint. for a week or so, allies of the president started to come out and say the wall he's moved on that. doesn't mean what it used to anymore. kel an said he met with perktss and learned things like there are rivers involved. the reasonable mind position where so many others had been. then what happens? well, you have general john kelly come out. chief of staff. he has evolved on the wall and was probably uninformed. that embarrassed the president. reportedly he was furious and he says in a tweet which he loves. build a wall chl the wall is real. boom. so now and i have in there forget mexico. that part he never talks about except when forced. when i redo nafta it will be fine. listen to john kelly. it was such a big moment.
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>> he's changed his attitude toward the daca issue. and even the wall. he has evolved in the way he looks at things. campaign to governing are two things. the president has been flexible in terms of what is within the realm of the possible. >> this could have been huge. because if the democrats had accepted this and if it had been manifested in policy consideration by the republicans then you would have gotten a deal on security. that's what we keep being told. but as i said, reportedly the words uninformed made his furious. he tweeted we'll build a wall. he was angry so what does he do? no chip. the children's health insurance program. it's going to fund it for six years. he says it shouldn't be part of short term spending bill. then what happens? he says no chip. the white house has to come out soon after and say the president
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still supports the house version of the bill. the one that has chip in it. on top of this confusion and mixed messages and the urgency demands the president is here and really involved. he says i'm leaving. tomorrow. he's going back to florida his golf course and very telling, there's no word of the gop leadership asking him to stay. that's what fore means. he's playing golf. let's get a take on what this leadership or vacuum of leadership means to the process. republican congressman mo brooks of alabama. a member of the house freedom caucus. it is always good to see your face. >> thank you. i appreciate the opportunity to be with you. >> congressman, you heard how i'm laying it out. do i have it wrong? or has the president made this more difficult? >> what the president has done quite frankly is consistent with what a number of presidents have
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done over a period of time. also the house and senate. it's difficult to be 100% consistent when you have different circumstances that face you on a regular basis. and you have to change your stance quite frequently. in order to adjust for the different circumstances a that face you. it would be easier if the house of the consistent the senate was consistent and the white house was more consistent. that way i think you can better negotiate. unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the nature of politics many washington. >> let's stick with the president for a second. congressman. where do you see any consistency? if you make a deal i'll sign it. they come with a deal he doesn't sign it. people try it move him on the wall. try to make it more what people think is should be. which is some places you need a hard barrier. some places you need a fence you use it. some places it's censors. some places it's manpower. based on the context. it seems that that's the way
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he's going to move, good for democrats. to hear it. and then undoes it today. and says no chip. in the bill that you voted on. and the white house has to undo that. is that consistency or like crazy on display? >> i'll confess i don't know what the white house position is. >> that's not good. >> on border security or respect to the resolution to fund the government or respect to an to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year. >> how can you not know? your reputation is you're studious. you talk to people you're involved. how could you not know what the white house wants? >> the analysis you gave is an example of why nobody can know. you don't have the consistency you would like. from white house. on this particular set of issues. i prefer clarity. try to keep my positions as constant as i can. and i think i have established that reputation for having a belief system that guides me.
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we're not seeing that from the white house. that does make the jobs more difficult here on capitol hill. >> how is he being like every other president? because a lot of these men have been men of principle. you can agree with some disagree with others. you knew where they were going to be. can't say that about trump. >> george bush the first at example. no new taxes. broken promise. this is not unique to this president. where you have statements that are made during a campaign that are somewhat inconsistent with the reality of governing. >> you don't think it's odd at this point in this process you don't know where the president is on security, or on the bill? especially when these are so important and he said he would drive this process? he's supposed to be the art of the deal man. >> the president will sign the continuing resolution that passed the house of representatives. that eliminates the threat of a shut down. i do not know what the
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president's position would be based on whatever amendments the senate may come up with. i have some degree of confidence in the senate will pass our bill the president will sign it. this threat will be over with. >> the idea that the democrats have leverage in the senate especially with mcconnell being short votes on his side. not necessarily because of the filibuster. because of the math. daca matters to them. what is the chance that a daca deal gets done in any kind of short term and added to the cr? >> i anticipate there will be some kind of negotiated position that will surface between this continuing resolution and expiration sometime in mid-february. i do not anticipate you will see that resolution coming forward today. or tomorrow. or on saturday or any time to prevent a government shut down if that's the hang up. there are negotiations ongoing right now. among various leaders in the
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house and senate. there's amnesty considered for illegal aliens that fall in the daca category in exchange for elimination of the lottery visa system. the diversity whatever you want to call it. also elimination of chain migration and border security. that seems to be the frame work of the negotiations now. whether that frame work will produce something that can pass in the senate and house. i don't know. can't say. >> kwi quick question. when it comes to a shut down if there is one you get paid 27th amendment to the constitution. you can't pay congressional pay until the beginning of the year:. that's a convenient amendment. would you be in favor of changing it. so you don't get paid? >> historically speaking every federal employee government has been paid in full. >> often it's back pay. and people live check to check. they need the money when they're supposed to get it. not when you decide to get your
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act together. >> another way to look at it is the extent there is a shut down and federal workers aren't working. they get paid for not working when they get the back pay. there's some benefit for not doing the work on the job and getting the money for not having to work. with the respect to the 27th amendment i'm willing to consider anything. that's an option we could look at in the house and senate. you have hit me kind of off guard. i haven't to have the cascading effects might be from the suggestion you make. i'm certainly more than happy to consider it. if we can get some movement in that direction the house and senate. where it looks viable. >> the shut down would be tomorrow. you shouldn't be surprised by the questions. this is what we're dealing with. >> the shut down is tomorrow. the idea of repealing a constitutional amendment. >> i'm saying conception. people don't like hearing you get paid when you're the reason
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the government gets shut down. >> i understand. and i'm frustrated too. >> time is money for people. they need money on time. when it comes to paying a mortgage. remember i was furloughed. you don't get a good answer. it matters we're hoping it doesn't happen. we'll cover it step by step. mo brooks, you are always welcome to discuss what happens. more wraek breaking news tonight. a key figure in the russian investigation tells lawmakers he suspected a quote possible crime involving the trump organization. and the russians. so, this came from the cofounder of fusion gps. exactly what is he alleging? we'll go one on one with representative jacky spear. a member of the house intel committee. next. it's absolute confidence in 30,000 precision parts. or it isn't. it's inspected by mercedes-benz factory-trained technicians. or it isn't.
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there's a lot of breaking news tonight. we're watching capitol hill for developments on the shut down. there's breaking news in the russia investigation. there are new details about what the founder of the firm behind
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the dossier. what he told the house intelligence committee. behind closed doors. let's go one oun one. a member of the house intelligence committee. good to have you as always. >> that you think, chris. >> all right. now i want to ask you one question. about the process of what's going on with the shut down. asked congressman brooks republican from alabama, you fwis get paid as essential employees. and it's not just irony. it is angers people. that you don't do your job skb pass a dugt budget. the government shuts down and you get paid. i know it's in the constitution as an amendment. a amendment means things can be changed. should it be considered? >> if california we were terrible at passing the budget on time. and then initiative was passed that said members would have the pay docked if they didn't have the budget passed by july 1.
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and you know what happened after that? the budget always gets passed on time. money is a great incentive. >> something to think about. breaking news. in terms of what is going ton in the investigation. you know that adam schiff has been saying obviously congressman from california has been saying that money laundering is a big consideration. is that your appraisal as well? >> money laundering is a huge component. the foreign corrupt practices act which really requires anyone who does business with a foreign national foreign company a foreign government, has to do due diligence to make sure the money is not tainted. that it is not being laundered. i think there is plenty of evidence that suggest that there has been money laundering going on in many of the real estate deals that were done by the trump organization. >> just to be clear, are we talking about just old things
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that may have involved paul manafort and what he was doing before he was part of the campaign? or any consideration of things involving the trump businesses? >> specifically about the trump businesses. buying a mansion at 40 million selling it four years later at $90 million. and convince dentally in 2008 the the then donald trump had a 50 or $40 million personal liability on a loan. and how convenient that amount of money was made available in that transaction. but many of the hotels if you look very specifically at all the hotel deals. whether it was in toronto or panama. more often than not those deals were never intended to have the hotels open. because the people associated
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with them weren't real estate developers of hotels. they all had interesting and oftentimes shady pasts. and all of a sudden there's a deal done with the trump organization and then all of sudden the deal never comes to fruition. >> is it connected in any way to what you're supposed to be investigating with russian interference? >> the extent these were russian persons. russian intentties russian ol garks. i leave it does. >> parallels what's being looked at by the special counsel. >> i can't speak to what the special counsel is doing. the special counsel has a wide discretion to look at any number of things. so it could be very well be part of what he's looking at. >> i know you can't tell me specific proof. i like to ask questions. without talking about the proof, are we talking about questions and speculation and curiousty?
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or do we believe that there's been any evidence of meat on the bones of type of the allegations? >> relevant to money laundering? we're looking at the russian interference in our election and whether or not there's coordination with the trump campaign. certainly special counsel mueller is in a position to do that. >> right. >> i think if you start tracking the various projects, you can see a connection. you can see a relationship. and as glen simpson said in his testimony which is now public. i encourage the audience to read it. it is really riveting. he said it's a russian mafia unlike the italian mafia. and everyone works for the government. >> is your sense of this issue of money laundering trump and relationships with the russians only as strong as the testimony
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of glen simpson fusion gps founder? >> no, i actually think there's been a great deal of open source documentation about a lot of the deals. i think why is it that you have the trump son saying we get most of the deals from russia. most of the business comes from russia. and they're buying three, four, six. 12 condos. in trump properties. and buying them with cash. and buying -- how does the trump properties went from some 30% that were llc. where you don't know who the actual buyer is. to 70% of the deals being llc. it all doesn't add up. and i just don't want the president of the united states gaining bent fit financially by being president and that's going on with the trump organization today. but retro spectively.
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the fact that the russian ties to the trump organization were so strong, and coincidence. it becomes disturbing. >> do you agree with congressman schiff with his belief. that the white house kept steve bannon from answering certain questions and maybe corey lewandowski as well. >> i don't think there's any question. >> both gentlemen or bannon. >> certainly bannon. it was peculiar relative to corey lewandowski. who was very up front and said i'll answer every question. and his attorney said he can't answer questions because he's not prepared to answer these questions. everyone though they dealt with a period of time during the campaign. so, i do think that the white
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house is trying to pull a lot of strings with those who are asking to come testify. >> it wouldn't be illegal necessarily to do it. it is interesting as a tactic. congresswoman i appreciate you giving us this information. >> thank you. >> all right. breaking tonight. the house just passed a bill to keep the government funded for another month. the senate is holding the fate of the situation in its hands. what's going to happen? votes are going on right now. we believe the senate is going to move towards debating this bill. and going to a final vote. let's bring back sanders versus king ston. with what we just heard. money laundering. the trump organization, russia. three key words that will start round two. best in-class payload and best in-class torque the f-150 lineup has the capability to get big things to big places --bigtime.
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all right right now you're looking live at the senate floor. that is mitch mcconnell. he's making for him a fairly passionate argument about how there is no urgency. on the immigration issue. that democrats are saying we want a shut town the government
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because of daca and immigration. he said it is a mutual concern and both sides have an interest in fixing it. there's no urge is now. the deadline for that is in march. artificial deadline set by the president. now chuck schumerer is responding. >> that didn't want to go along with that agreement. it's a fair and decent agreement. it's important to agreement. and a vital agreement. no one, no one, no one. >> is that right chuck schumer the democrat leader from new york. saying there is a deal on the table. they praugt it to the president. and he negated it. he wouldn't go for it. we're in the jam we're in. we'll keep dipping in. and move the needle. we can move the needle how with the second round of the great debate. let's bring in cnn political
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come m commenters. symone sanders and jack. lerts start with the urgency of the moment. you heard the argument. daca matters, immigration matter. the humanity is real. the urgency is not real. you have until march to fix it. why shut down the government for that? >> again, to be clear. it wouldn't be democrats shutting down the government. it's the republicans inability to govern is kp get a teal from the republican president. also, since donald trump set this dd line in september, 15,500 young people have lost their protective status. they cannot work and lives are in limbo. it's not just march if we don't come to a >> jack, why do you people ignore, on the right, there's this cost on the daily basis? we brought you that story of
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jorge garcia in michigan, forced to leave his family, brought here at 10. been here 30 years. now he's in mexico city. he's never been -- he hasn't lived there in 30 years. split apart because of this law. now, fair point, he's not a d.r.e.a.m.er, he didn't make it. but it shows the necessarily of the issue, the urgency right now. >> and i think that that's what the president is saying, that look, let's go till march if you want to work it out. if you're serious about working it out. this has not been around since the president made his proclamation. it didn't start with president obama. it's been going on for years. democrats have been in the majority during that period as have republicans. but i want to say this. i think the path forward. i believe, and i actually heard a rumor just a few minutes ago, chris, that what schumer will do is put a substitute amendment on the floor for a short-term cr, probably a five-year deal. i don't think the democrats are going to come on board for a one-month cr.
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if they want to stay in the game and drive this debate, they're going to put a short-term cr. and the reason why i think this is probably true is because a house member told me they are actually staying in town right now. they were going to vote and adjourn. so the fact the house is hanging around means there's a high probability the senate will not pass this cr in its current form but instead substitute a short-term one, and we will be having this debate over the weekend. and that could be a good thing because sometimes, you know, making people stay in town you can get something done. >> you said five-year. you mean five-day. >> five-day, excuse me. five-year probably too long. >> the fact of the matter is, chris -- >> go ahead, symone. >> if they put this bill on the floor, if they put the current bill on the floor as the house passed it it will not pass and it won't just pass not because of the democrats, they don't have the republican votes to get it done. again, there's a bipartisan bill that can pass the senate. they should put -- >> symone. >> i'm just saying -- >> it's a matter of math.
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there's 51 -- >> wait. i can count. you've got 51 republicans but if you have -- look, if you have 51 republicans but 5 of the 51 are going to vote no on that bill -- >> you don't know that there's five no votes. >> i'm telling you there are five no votes on record saying -- >> how do you know -- >> -- they're not going to support the bill, congressman. all i want to say is this -- >> fishing for a better deal. >> all i want to say is -- help me here, if there's a bipartisan bill that will in fact pass the senate and the only reason they're not going to put it on the floor is because the republican president is going to veto it, let him be the reason the government shuts down. >> there is a bipartisan bill. it just passed the house. it keeps the government funded till february. >> you're talking about to different bills. >> that's not bipartisan. >> the president -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> there are five republicans on record. republican senators on record. let me hold up -- >> hold on one second. hold on one second.
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>> if you're voting no you're voting no to children's health care -- >> just to bring people up to speed, there will be no more votes in the senate tonight. all right? now, that means something good and something bad. one, that means you're not going to have any progress tonight. however, that means there's time for deliberation. >> and there will be that short-term cr -- >> we'll see if what jack is hearing -- he's got good contacts in congress. but we'll see if that winds up what the democrats will put forward, which is basically just buying time to continue this negotiation. now, that is good. ish. ish, symone. because i have to tell you, i think it is fair criticism that the leverage, the real leverage the democrats have -- and i get your argument that the republicans don't have the vote. but look, the democrats are in play here. they have leverage. how they're using that leverage is unclear. what they really want in a daca deal, what they really would agree to has not been their focus as much as flexing their muscle and the leverage. so now if schumer does do what
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jack says and he buys himself some time, they have to move, they have to ask for real they have to come to the table. do you think they're ready? >> i absolutely think democrats are ready to come to the table. and i would push back on the notion that they have not been clear on what they want. it is the republicans that have jumped around and not been clear. >> trump has jumped around. but there's been a lot of haggling with republicans and democrats. and the democrats have been saying we won't vote unless daca's in it but now they have to put meat on the bones of exactly what they want. >> they absolutely do. and i think with time that will come. i am happy to hear that we might have some time to get this thing done. but be clear. democrats want to fund the government. a bipartisan solution to support all of these things. let's get it done -- >> i've got you. let me report some news. symone, jack. jack, thank you for that tip. next drink's on me. >> it's a rumor. we don't know. >> well, you put it out there, now it's on you, my friend, and i'll come right back to you when it's not true. let's take a break right now. thanks to both of you. we have two breaking stories on capitol hill.
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i've been answering some of these tweets online but let's check our social status here. i don't pick these, so hopefully there are no shockers. new york fitzgerald tweets, "republicans blaming democrats for shutdown is like a mortgage applicant with bad credit blaming the seller of a house for not giving the applicant a mortgage. logical fallacy." too long, complicated. but we'll end on that because you know what? the situation is taking too long and it's very complicated but that's the way d.c. works right now. thank you for being with us,
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watching this in real time. don't forget, i will be there with allison tomorrow morning on "new day" starting at 6:00 a.m. "cnn tonight" with don lemon, the man, starts right now. here's the breaking news. the house passes a short-term bill to avoid a government shutdown for now. the senate is a very different story. this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. the clock is ticking. you see it right there on the right of your screen. and it all comes down to what the senate does. if they don't pass this bill, the federal government will shut down in a little under 26 hours. but remember, this is a bill that simply kicks the can down the road, funding the government only until february 16th, when this whole thing could start all over again. so here's where we stand right now. senate republicans desperately trying to find a way to get the 60 votes they need to pass the

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