rob gronkowski says tide is for washing clothes, not eating. the concern for me is children. already this is a poison risk for children. you have people making fun and eating it. it is just social media -- this is like the dark side of social media. thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" has you covered right now. have a great weekend. we are headed to a government shutdown. there we are absolutely at this point headed to a government shutdown. there is no resolution currently in sight. >> >> we have to sit down together and solve this with the president or without. >> they're prepared to shut down the government over the issue of illegal immigration. >> mitch mcconnell want odd budget we would have had a budget. >> this is completely

dysfunctional. i don't like playing shutdown politics or gamesmanship. >> please, mr. president, get off the campaign trail, come back and be the leader, and we will negotiate with you. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. it is friday, january 19th, 2018. 6:00 in new york. less than 18 hours until the u.s. government will shut down if the senate doesn't pass a bill today. republicans are in control of both houses of congress and the white house. this would be the first shutdown ever had one party is in control. they don't have entire control so they need democrats. at least a dozen votes to keep the government open.

most say they won't support the plan without protection for hundreds of thousands of d.r.e.a.m.ers. as of now, democrats have enough votes to block it. >> one party controlling the white house and both chambers of congress. president trump is set to leave washington headed to mar-a-lago for a party. what will happen in the next 17 hours and 58 minutes? we begin with ryan nobles live on capitol hill with all the breaking details. how is it going, ryan? >> reporter: alisyn, good morning from capitol hill. senate rublica are scrambling to pick up the 60 votes they need to pass a short-term spending bill passed by the house yesterday. but at this late hour, as you mentioned, less than 18 hours to go before the government shuts down. the votes just simply aren't there. >> i object. >> objection heard. >> we are in an urgent

situation. this is irresponsible and i just don't understand it. so i object to the motion. >> tensions rising on the senate floor as the government barrels towards a shutdown with a deadline at midnight tonight. a 60 vote majority is needed to pass the proposed short-term spending bill that republicans passed in the house. the future of the bill is uncertain. more than a dozen are ready to vote no because the bill does not protect d.r.e.a.m.ers. republican senators lindsey graham and rand paul also saying they'll vote no. senator john mccain will be absent for the vote due to his cancer treatments. joe manchin will break with his party and vote yes. and republican senator mike rounds changing his vote is after a late night deal on defense appropriations. >> we could get this done in a few short days and not kick the can down the road. this is the fourth c.r. that we have done and accomplished

nothing. >> senate minority leader chuck schumer tried to push for a vote last night but failed. he pitched a much shorter resolution to allow the senate to continue debate over the next few days. however, aides to senator majority leader mcconnell are skeptical. with just hours left, the blame game is in full force. >> democratic senators's fictionation on illegal immigration has already blocked us on making progress on long term spending talks. the same fixation has been threatening to filibuster funding for the whole government. >> two republican aides say a series of votes could be uncomfortable for democrats especially for the 10 democrats up for reelection in the states president trump won. democrats holding their ground. >> i think we need to force the

leadership on the other side of the aisle to take this issue seriously. they haven't for 110 days. if mitch mcconnell wanted a budget, we would have had a budget. >> this is like giving you a bowl of doggie doo, put a cherry on top and call it a sundae. >> 57% of democrats believe it is worth shutting down the government over d.r.e.a.m.ers. 51% of republicans feel it is worth a shutdown for the border wall. they are set to reconvene 11:00 eastern time. which means they will only have 13 hours to hash out a deal. this is the one opportunity they have when it comes to leverage. while protection for the d.r.e.a.m.ers is high on their list of priorities, they want to see more funding for disaster

rehrre h lief. there are republicans that want to see changes as well, including more funding for the military. a long day here on capitol hill, chris, and not much time left before the government shuts down. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. perception is often reality. president trump is leaving washington to head to his florida resort hours before the midnight deadline to avoid a shutdown. this comes amid reports that the president has not been very involved in negotiations. abby phillip live at the white house with more. last night when we were reporting this out it was striking you weren't hearing the gop leadership out loud asking the president to stay. >> that's right. it's really extraordinary that in just a couple of hours, the president is planning to leave the white house, leave washington on the cusp of a shutdown and head to his florida resort at mar-a-lago. already the president has been spending the last couple of hours, 24 hours or so, talking about how he will frame a

potential shutdown and blame it on democrats. take a listen to that framing, the spin from the white house. >> the democrats want to see a shutdown to get off the subject. this subject is not working for them. the tax cuts and tax reform has not been working very well for the democrats. >> now, the question of the president's involvement has been swirling here in washington. he started thursday with a tweet that threw gop's well laid plans into total chaos. he questioned the strategy of adding funding for chip into the bill even though republicans had done that to get democrats on board. the president is working the phones. but at the same time we're hearing from a source close to the negotiations that the white house is a little bit frustrated with speaker paul ryan about how he's been unable to potentially get some republican votes on board yesterday before that house vote. but at the same time, on the other side of this, a gop source

says president trump has been a little bit late on the game in his engagement on this issue. it coincides with the one-year anniversary of his inauguration. he plans to celebrate at mar-a-lago with a high dollar fund-raiser at his resort. >> abby, appreciate it. let's bring in cnn political analyst ron brownstein and david gregory. david, is a deal in the works? we heard rumors last night through jack kingston, we all know who he is, maybe the democrats will cut a deal not to give 60 votes but like a band-aid to create a window for more negotiation. maybe something like five days. >> well, it would, i think, be a good idea for democrats who have to believe there is still an opportunity for a kind of deal they want on immigration. there's a lot of pressure. you see in the in the polling shown moments ago.

to fight to use the leverage on d.r.e.a.m.e d.r.e.a.m.ers to drive a negotiation. we have an extremely unpredictable president who held himself out as the art of the deal himself. it is not like doing awe big real estate deal when you're dealing with government and different interests. but i think the thinking is nobody benefits from a shutdown. democrats can say the republicans own it. and they will have to eat it during an election year. and that would be bad for them. if you're a democrat, you think you have hrefrplg. i think they want to keep it open. i still think a bigger deal is possible. >> how about that, ron? how about if the democrats say, okay, you want your votes. we feel we have leverage. and it will only stay open another month. first order of business,

d.r.e.a.m.ers. isn't there that kind of deal to be had? >> first of all, it's unlikely new kind of deal with go that far again. democrats are under normal pressure to respond to what the president is set in motion in the first place. at the root of all of this is a strategy of hostage taking that extended not only to the 700 or so recipients of daca but also the millions of kids on the children's health insurance program. that is kind of at the root of where we are. on the other hand, i covered the 1994, 1995 shutdown, as david did, and the shutdown under obama. and a government shutdown is not as powerful a weapon as advocates believe in terms of forcing app administration to do something they don't want to do. this may not be the right hill on which to wage this fight. but the reality is we are here because the president, i think above all, is demanding

significant changes in other aspects of the immigration law not only on dealing he with undocumented but reducing legal immigration as the price of essentially taking away the gun he is holding to the head of the daca resimilar kwrepbts. >> there are numbers and then numbers inside the numbers. something like 87% of americans say he d.r.e.a.m.ers should stay. but each part you have over half the people polled saying it's worth shutting down the government on the republican side is on the wall and the the democrat side over daca, over the d.r.e.a.m.ers. what does it mean? >> the irony is that president trump is among the s in that big ember. that's whauf u what you have to remember. there is a scare monday tkpwering part on the brain for the president, a big part of his political base both in congress

and the country that says, no, we have to blame people for what's happening to our country. it fuels the trade arguments. in the first year he didn't do what he promised, to tear up nafta and renegotiate the conversations that are still going on. he has these two parts of his brain. what did mitch mcconnell say? we don't know what the president is for ultimately and what he will ultimately sign. we're not going to debate this and negotiate it and spin our wheels. i still think in all of that there is a chance for a bigger deal. he is sounconventional i think a bigger deal is possible. >>ou know, part of the problem, real quick, can i just jump in, you really see the extent to which the parties are representing two different merck's in thamericas in this. there are not only a meaningful number of daca recipients.

but very few republicans represent states or districts with a large number of immigrants to begin with donald trump won 26 of 30 with the lowest. the same is true with the senate. for democrats it is largely the reverse. they don't feel the immediate pressure, many of them, to deal with this issue that democrats and some republicans do who are aware. on the other hand, they have those kids and those families more broadly in their districts. the reality, as chris noted, 90% of the country roughly wants the d.r.e.a.m.ers to be allowed to stay. to some extent, democrats are willing to call their bluff. are republicans willing to stand by and let the president start

deporting a meaningful number of these kids in app election year. >> let's look at the moment who the public would blame for the shutdown. this is not an easy answer for the people who are looking for an answer whether to do it. they say they would blame democrats, 34%. that's the highest%age. republicans, 32%. almost evenly split. if you add in the president, they would blame him 21%. 13% for i don't know. >> it is is not as powerful for the side that really pushes for it as perhaps it used to be. it is is messy. it is hard for those of us who cover washington so closely and look at all the available facts to really connect to people viewing washington in a different way. they view the media in a different way. who view the president differently than we might day in and day out. the framing will change fromm

day to day. the underlying issues are important. how they would view the prospect of d.r.e.a.m.ers being deported. i can't imagine the president would want to do. he could be hard lined today and totally change tomorrow. and there is a high profile republican in lindsey graham who wants a more quote, unquote democratic path to immigration reform. >> thank you very much for all of that analysis. so trump aide hope hicks was supposed to appear before the house intelligence committee today. however, her interview was postponed because of concerns whether the white house is trying to hreplt testimony on the russia investigation. we discuss that next. let's go to sumatra. where's sumatra? good question. this is win. and that's win's goat, adi. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. making the coffee erupt with flavor. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee.

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>> it depends on the nature of the instruction. if he is saying to people who are his close policy advisers, i intend to assert executive privilege with respect to some of our conversations, that's his prerogative. if he is telling them in broad gag order terms, don't cooperate, that's not appropriate. so we have to say which it is is. what we found in the bannon testimony, which was problematic to me, was they seemed to be asserting executive privilege for a period of time before they became the executive, that is during the transition. that is what i think has caused delay with hope hicks as they try to work out between white house counsel's office, the extent to which they intend to invoke executive privilege. >> i was doing a quick westlaw search. there is a recent case where a judge found executive privilege does not extend to transition

periods. it will be interesting to see if it can be reconciled. michael is such an expert when it comes to money laundering. i have to play what congresswoman spier said last nig! night. here's what she said about what her concern is right now. >> money laundering is a huge component. the foreign corrupt practices act, which really requires anyone who does business with a foreign national, foreign company, a foreign government, has to do due diligence to make sure that the money is not tainted, that it is not being laund launderered. i think there is plenty of evidence to suggest money laundering going on many of the real estate deals done by the

trump organization. >> michael, a lot of people don't know this about you, but you have done a ton of legal practice about money laundering. i want your take on this. i hadn't heard this before, which hurts my feelings as a reporter. i asked jackie speier do you think these transactions are in any way connected to what we saw as interference? she says yes. she's trying to develop that rationale. and then i ask whether or not this was only because of what they heard from glenn simpson, right? you can read the transcript of his testimony from the house and to the senate. she said no. there is a lot of open source documentation. he's not the first one to bring it to the panel. so what's your take? >> so let's put aside the foreign corrupt practices act because that's a little bit different. that's a bribery statute. "in the money" laundering sphere, the statute she's referencing makes it a crime to engage in a financial

transaction where the source of the money is criminally derived. the allegations here are that, and they are just allegations, that the trump organization over a long period of time, mostly throughout its bankrupts, in order to stay solvent, was receiving money from georgia, russia, azerbaijan. it has been in open source data. steele mentioned it. harding in his book mentions it. the theory is trump received all of this illegal money to keep his business alive. and his son, don jr., in 2008, chris, you'll remember gave a speech where he said we don't rely on banks. we rely on russian money for our high-end properties such as the sew soho properties in new york. that's the theory. they received all of this money to keep their businesses afloat. in exchange now, years later,

they have entered into another agreement by which they will receive intelligence. the exchange that russians want for that is the removal of sanctions. and we saw a little of that in the loosening of the ukraine platform -- >> during the convention. >> during the convention. so that's the theory. illegal money coming in to trump to support him. then the collusive deal off the back of that is they say let's make you president and if you make the presidency, you will help relieve sanctions. the magnitsky act is sanctions. that's the theory. >> right. we have to move on, david, to more news that's breaking. "the wall street journal" has new developments, at least they

are reporting developments now bringing them to light about stormy daniels. this is the porn star. the report is she had some sort of illicit affair or at least moment with donald trump. and somehow some media outlets buried it before the election. here's what "the wall street journal" says. michael coe hen, the president's personal lawyer, established essential consultants llc on october 17, 2016, just before the 2016 presidential election, corporate documents show. mr. cohen, who is based in new york, then used a bank account linked to the entity to accepted the $130,000 payment to the client-trust account of a lawyer representing the woman, stephanie clifford, aka stormy daniels, one of the people said. so they are following the money and the paper trail. "the wall street journal". well, they are asserting there was this payment made right before the election. >> yeah.

i'm not sure what the impact of any of this is. the president has denied it. she has apparently denied it. "the wall street journal" reports there was a statement using her entertainment name to deny it. i'm not really sure where it goes. i don't think either trump critics or his supporters would necessarily be surprised if he had this kind of relationship or took some steps to keep it quiet. >> isn't that itself, david, notable? this is the point that we have gone to in politics and in our world. where something that would have been a bombshell obviously in years gone by that now it is an afterthought because there's so much else that we are dealing with that this kind of revelation is a footnote. >> well, it's also they are not new in politics and not new to being covered in politics by the media about political figures.

that's part of it. yes, it is notable. this is a president who has proved to be able to survive the kinds of statements or accusations others have not. kind of pullin these stories together, too, if you were listening to congresswoman spieer last night with chris on the program, this is what democratic control of the house looks like. democrats in control of the investigative arm of congress not letting anything die around president trump, moving the investigation from russian interference to russian interference that has to do with money laundering, his financial ties. that is of course the great fear. we should also point out special counsel could be looking at all of this as well. >> it would be his purview, not

theirs. last word, michael, and then we will move on. >> what i was going to say in respect to the money laundering, to david's last point, you know mueller is looking at this because manafort money laundering is exactly the same theory with respect to trump and his organization. you can't assume he's not looking at it for trump. >> when we talk about why we care about one thing and not another, money laundering from special counsel versus did you cheat on your wife? >> oh, sure. i just wanted to take a moment to note where we are. >> looking into my financial dealings is a red line for me. this is an area we fears most because the allegations with

reectthe receipt of this money are many and long. >> michael, david, thank you both very much. all right. we have been following a story that gets more dark and more scary the more you get into it. 13 kids bound and shackled inside a house of horror. the details about the torture they endured for years. what police say was being done by their parents next. ♪

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president trump will mark his first year in office tomorrow. so what do the polls say? they all have the president's approval rating holding steady but steady around 37%, 38%. president trump took a victory lap yesterday in pennsylvania touting the tax cut saying it would be a real revival for the american worker. today he is facing the real prospect of a government shutdown. joining us now with perspective is michael caputo. good to see you as always. >> good morning, my friend. >> did you pick up the phone and say, mr. president, you can't leave. you can't go to mar-a-lago before the government shutdown. we need leadership. you need to get in there. >> no. actually, i didn't. >> what? >> we have seen -- i know. we have seen these government shutdowns, 16 of them in the last couple of decades.

half of them end up happening over a weekend. all have low impact on the essential services of the government. i know the president doesn't want to have a government shutdown. and he's working against one. but, frankly, i think republicans should man up, be stand up for what they believe in and force the democrats to reject the continuing resolution and force a government shutdown. and then make them pay for it. >> let's look at how that works. we have never had a shutdown with one party in control of everything. this would be the first. mcconnell doesn't even seem to have all of his own membership on board in the meeting. why did the democrats lose if the government shuts down when they're the minority? >> not just democrats but anyone who votes against the continuing resolution will lose. that will include some republicans are. the fact of the matter is they vote yesr they vote no.hem.

a continuing resolution.roval of that funds 9 million children, their health care completely. they're rejecting it over a nonspending issue, nongermane issue of illegal immigrants that doesn't expire until march. some people say it goes past that. i think it is a bad political move on the democrats's part. >> each party is split on whether a shutdown works for their interest. republicans are 50%. shut it down if it takes to hold to our principles. democrats, 50 plus% shut it down if it doesn't hold to our principles. what is the biggest principle we see right now in the current state of dialogue? daca. helping the d.r.e.a.m.ers. almost 90% of the american people. how can you say that is not a germane issue and why aren't

republicans including it if the democrats have all of this leverage and that's their main ask? >> a continuing resolution is continuing the funding of the federal government. it is not kopbt verse kwrl until people attach nonspending issues like daca. republicans have attached demands in the past. >> sure. >> and it ended up being a sticking point. this is political football. at the end of this we shut down nonessential areas of government. as long as they keep an eye on the military and make sure, like president obama did, to pass a pay our military bill so the military doesn't feel this, so the civilian employees of the department of defense don't have to go home. and essential workers, say maintenance workers of vital defense systems, aren't sent home. and, by the way, as we all know, chris, most of these people, end up getting paid. >> they get back pay.

if you have to pay your mortgage and you don't have the money at the bank at that time. the bank doesn't say, get it to us when you can. back pay doesn't always net out. we started last week with this great kumbaya meeting that we all glazed at. the president got due credit for being in that room and getting people together and being on television. from then on, are you disappointed in terms of what he has shown with deal making? he goes back on his promise two days later. kelly goes out, tries to move his position on the wall towards reasonable. he fights back and said the wall hasn't changed. he said chip shouldn't be in the c.r., the only thing democrats saw as a carrot in it. the white house had to correct him. it doesn't sound like savvy at work there. >> well, i disagree with that.

the position changes his positions frequently when he was building skyscrapers, and i think he will do it here. we know daca isn't important to the democratic party because they chose an allegation that the president used some kind of expletive during intense negotiations. they chose leaking that and ruining negotiations over getting a deal for daca. chris, here's what i think -- >> what about your boy lindsey? >> he doesn't represent the republican party? >> what are you talking about, michael? how can you say that? >> i'm talking about lindsey graham is a legendary long tem l with trump. >> they've been golfing. >> and the president doesn't have a problem going golfing with people he doesn't agree with. >> he expressed a preference for immigrants from norway over

basically anywhere that has brown people. that's what he said. that's what he believes. it's consistent with like a half dozen other statements about immigrants. that's what he is, michael. >> that's not true. and you can't stand -- >> of course it's true. >> step back and let the president solve this daca problem. >> he left. he's going golfing. he's leaving to go to an anniversary party for himself today. who does that? >> listen, the president is going to cut a daca deal that even the democrats can live with. and i think he will probably alien ate some of his base with the daca deal. they can't have the president in the lead on this issue. the president wants to give these daca, these d.r.e.a.m.ers something to hang on to. >> give me one indication that the president wants to do that. one. and then i will let you go for the weekend. >> sure. first of all, he's told me that. he's said it several times on the campaign trail. >> when did you tell you my

priority is saving these he d.r.e.a.m.ers? i want a bill of love? you heard him say that. >> he told america. >> he did tell them that and then he rejected the deal that was the closest thing to a bill of love two days later. >> yeah. but the bill that came to him two days later was filled with deal breakers. >> it checked out every box. >> it was a poison bill. >> it had lindsey graham and other republicans behind it. it checked every box. >> lindsey graham. you keep going to lindsey graham. he is not an indication that there is widespread support of anything, chris. he's a legitimate voice in opposition, a legitimate critic of the president and doesn't represent the majority in congress. >> when the president does the right thing, he's i with him. some call that leadership. mitch mcconnell, the leader of the republicans in the senate says he doesn't know what the president wants either. michael, you make the case.

you are always appreciated here to do so. have is a good weekend. enjoy the anniversary. >> release the memo. >> i was waiting for that. tell me what's in it. . you don't know. >> four pages. i don't know. >> i've never heard congressmen talk so much smack offering nothing of what's in it. when it comes out, i promise you i will. be well. >> i look forward to that call. >> it almost sounded like you had the memo. >> i have it right here. >> i will do a dramatic reading. meanwhile, as we all know, there have been so many women's issues that have come to the fore in the first year of the trump presidency. so we wanted to know how female supporters feel about hum today. >> those women, we have yet to really examine them or know who they are. >> the president's own words

about grabbing -- >> i've heard way worse. >> the way his words were taken out of context over and of again. >> what happens when die-hard trump supporters get-together for women who call themselves the resistance. that's ahead on "new day".

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play sunday's game against jacksonville. fans and media just had to know, tom, how did he look out there? >> he looks excellent every day. one of the best looking people i've ever met. when you look atom, the face, it's hard to look at anything else. i only looked at his face. >> he is a good looking man. no chris cuomo. he knows all about the primetime. >> even other players are just hypnotized by his face. >> that was a good answer, though. and it's true. >> that guy was a good looking guy. >> it's true. >> for sure. okay. on that note, we have to get to this story. he abused more than 100 girls, including our nation's young role models. now victims of the usa gymnastics doctor are sharing their anger to his face and to us next.

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i'm here today with all these other women, not victims but survivors, to tell you face-to-face that your days of manipulation are over. we have a voice now. we have the power now. there's no therapy, no cure and no healing for monsters like you. you are pure evil. >> that was former usa olympic gymnast and bronze medalist jamie dantscher. more than 100 women testifying at his sentencing hearing.

jamie joins us now. good morning, jamie. >> good morning. >> jamie, i have heard a lot of victim impact statements but never one quite like yours. you gave the statement that all of us hoped we would have the coverage to give if confronting, you know, an abuser in the courtroom. what was it like for you to look directly at him and say your piece? >> well, it felt obviously very good. not only good but very empowering to be able to face him and say what i've wanted to tell him for so long. and, you know, as a victim of his sexual abuse, i couldn't have done it alone without over 140 women coming forward and feeling that strength together

as one. that is why i think we felt so empowered and grateful for the opportunity to speak to him directly. and i also think what's important for people to know is, you know, taking down larry nassar is just the beginning of what i think is a very important movement, but it's time for the next step which is to hold accountable for the people responsible that allowed him to get away with his heinous acts for so long. >> and because you believe that they haven't been held accountable and it's still happening? >> yeah. i mean, larry nassar is just one of many to take down. like i had, he wouldn't have been able to get away with this for so long if the people in charge, you know, didn't allow him to for so long. that's what people need to understand. how did he do this for so many years? he he should have been put away

over 20 years ago. there's victims starting from 1988. they tried to say they didn't know about it. they did know about it and they covered it up and allowed him to keep abusing children. >> listen -- >> for years after they knew about it. >> it came out in trial that there were reports of sexual misconduct by 14 different university of michigan representatives but they didn't do anything about it at the time. so what was it you went there to say to him? what was the most important thing you wanted to get across? >> i wanted to tell him i knew that he's obviously a monster. i wanted to tell him that face-to-face. like i said before, i'm grateful for the opportunity that all of

us have the opportunity to speak to directly, which has been extremely empowering. but also that, you know, usa g a&m su need to be held account be now. it is time for people to really know why he got away with this. >> so what do you want to see happen? to the people who knew, what do you want to see next? >> i mean, for me personally, i want to see some change. you know, in the system. that people that have been in charge for so long, they need to clean house there. they need to get rid of the people in charge. the president is still at usa gymnastics and the people there

that knew about it, they need to get rid of them ask start over and put people in charge that actually want to protect children and want to put children first. >> yeah. after you spoke, larry nassar complained to the judge in a six-page letter that it was too hard for him thave to sit there and listen to allf this. the judge is, just on his final note said that's delusional. you need to talk about these issues with a therapist and that's not me. and she rejected that request from him. so your message is being heard loud and clear, jamie, throughout the country and throughout the world. thank you so much for being here with us. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> and thanks to our international viewers for watching. cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> the only people standing in the way are senate democrats. >> democrats s