that knew about it, they need to get rid of them ask start over and put people in charge that actually want to protect children and want to put children first. >> yeah. after you spoke, larry nassar complained to the judge in a six-page letter that it was too hard for him thave to sit there and listen to allf this. the judge is, just on his final note said that's delusional. you need to talk about these issues with a therapist and that's not me. and she rejected that request from him. so your message is being heard loud and clear, jamie, throughout the country and throughout the world. thank you so much for being here with us. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> and thanks to our international viewers for watching. cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> the only people standing in the way are senate democrats. >> democrats shutting down the

government. >> where is the urgency here? there isn't any. >> i'm not trying to play for political points. i am trying to get us to come together. >> each side knows there is no clear path in the senate. >> they will have a hard time figuring out who to blame. >> you don't have the kind of consistency from the white house on this particular set of issues. >> until the president decides he wants to be president and not just some tweeter on the outside, it's just going to go on and on with no resolution. >> congress has done nothing, nothing. it is time to go to work. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> very big day here, obviously. anything can happen on our watch and beyond. good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". the federal government will shut down in 16 hours, 58 minutes with the senate does not pass a spending bill today. republicans need a dozen democratic votes to keep the government open. most democrats say they ll not

support the plan without a protection for the hundreds of to thousands of d.r.e.a.m.ers. a lot this hour, democrats have enough votes to block it. >> all right. look, one of the problems is leadership here. we have the countdown clock to the shutdown right now. but the president has his own countdown to leaving and getting out of town and going to mar-a-lago to celebrate his anniversary on the verge of whether or not the government is going to shut down. this matters to his administration more than most. if there's a shutdown, it would be the first one with one party controlling both houses of congress and the white house. but, as i said, he's going down to mar-a-lago in florida to celebrate his anniversary and play golf. let's begin with cnn's ryan nobles live on capitol hill. what do you know, ryan? >> reporter: chris, good morning. we are in a high-stakes staring contest on capitol hill as republicans and democrats hash out whether to pass a bill to

keep the government open. they need 60 votes right now and as of right now the votes simply aren't there. >> i object. >> objection heard. >> we are in an urgent situation. this is irresponsible and i just don't understand it. so i object to the motion. >> tensions rising on the senate floor as the government barrels towards a shutdown with a deadline at midnight tonight. a 60 vote majority is needed to pass the proposed short-term spending bill that republicans passed in the house. the future of the bill is uncertain. more than a dozen democrats are ready to vote no because the bill does not protect d.r.e.a.m.ers. republican senators lindsey graham and rand paul also saying they'll vote no. senator john mccain will be absent for the vote due to his cancer treatments. but it is not all bad news for republican leadership. joe manchin will break with his party and vote yes. and republican senator mike

rounds changing his vote after a late night deal on defense appropriations. >> we could get this done in a few short days and not kick the can down the road. this is the fourth c.r. that we have done and accomplished nothing. >> senate minority leader chuck schumer tried to push for a vote last night but failed. republican senators heckling schumer as he pitched a much shorter resolution to allow the senate to continue debate over the next few days. however, aides to senator majority leader mcconnell are skeptical. with just hours left, the blame game is in full force. >> democratic senators's fixation on illegal immigration has already blocked us on making progress on long term spending talks. the same fixation has been threatening to filibuster funding for the whole government. >> two republican aides say a series of votes could be uncomfortable for democrats

leading into midterm elections, especially for the 10 democrats up for reelection in the states president trump won. democrats holding their ground. >> i think we need to force the leadership on the other side of the aisle to take this issue seriously. they haven't for 110 days. if mitch mcconnell wanted a budget, we would have had a budget. >> this is like giving you a bowl of doggie doo, put a cherry on top and call it a sundae. >> reporter: a new poll shows how deeply both sides are entrenched in their positions. 57% of democrats believe it is worth shutting down the government over d.r.e.a.m.ers. 51% of republicans feel it is worth a shutdown for the border wall. they are set to reconvene 11:00 eastern time. which means they will only have 13 hours to come up with a deal. keep in mind this is really the only opportunity that democrats in the senate have to use their leverage. ye is s, protections for the

d.r.e.a.m.ers are high on their list of priorities. they want to see more funding for disaster relief, more done for the opioid crisis. and quite a few republicans are unhappy with the short-term spending bill as well. many of them would like to see more funding for the military. the clock is ticking, alisyn, and no real deal in sight. >> oh, i see it. i see it right there on the corn e corner of the screen, ryan. thank you very much. president trump is headed to florida. cnn's abby phillip has that part of the story live at the white house for us. hi, abby. >> reporter: hi, alisyn. good morning. the president is about eight hos away from a schedule departure to florida where he plans to spend the weekend at his mar-a-lago resort even on the cusp of a government shutdown. the president just tweeted moments ago about this very

issue. he wrote government funding bill passed last night in the house of representatives. now democrats are needed if it is to pass in the senate. they want illegal immigration and weak worders. shutdown coming. we need more republican victories in 2018. so there the president framing this as a problem for democrats. meanwhile, there are questions swirling in washington about his role in bringing reps and democrats on board. remember the day started yesterday with the president tweeting a confusing tweet about the children's health insurance program sending chaos on the other end of pennsylvania avenue. and by the end of the day, we heard -- cnn jim acosta heard from a source close to negotiations that the president was a little bit frustrated about his in ability to get more republicans on board. meanwhile, on the other side of that, another gop source tells jim there are questions about whether the president's engagement was a little bit too late.

meanwhile, if he does go to florida over the weekend, he will be celebrating the one-year anniversary of his inauguration with a big gala. abby, thank you very much for all of that. let's discuss it. let's bring in david gregory and chris cillizza. let's start with the president's engagement? might he just bring over leaders to the white house and have them negotiate and hash it out? >> no. could he? sure. i think the platonic deal with donald trump is that he does that. but i don't think he will. i think what you have with him is someone who is really now engaged in the blame game piece of this as opposed to the deal making piece. the piece that abby phillip just read shows donald trump is resolved. well, if they shut down, they shut down. in the past he said maybe a shutdown is what washington needs.

plus, alisyn, i'm not if he brought the democrats and the republicans over. i'm not sure he could change minds on this. remember, there are those 10 democrats who are in states that donald trump won. and yet none of them -- one of them, joe manchin, but the rest of the nine don't feel compelled to waffle on this. there are just nos on this. when the senate reconvenes they will vote down the house proposal or won't be able to close debate, which means the same thing, and then we will sort of good from there at noon or 1:00 with 10, 11 hours left before the government will shut down. >> four things that seem true, david gregory. one, i'm noticing camerota looks younger than when we started and i look older than my father. cillizza is overplaying the glasses matching t tie.

like it. >> these are things that are obvious and true in the president's tweet, if we put it up, these two things actually matter, first past is passed. >> please resubmit, mr. president, for a grade. >> it all matters. it goes to how much thought and whether people are looking at these tweets and thinking about the message. he has gotten himself in deep water the last few days with ill-informed tweets with chip, the wall. he is mucking up the works with these things. again in here, bill of love, david gregory, versus democrats want illegal immigration. >> yeah. >> and weak borders. i just had michael caputo on and he said the president told me himself he wants to save the d.r.e.a.m.ers. they mean so much to him. how do you reconcile that with this tweet? >> i don't. i can't. and i think this is a critical piece. we got into this, the president

got high marks for bringing republicans and democrats together and saying we want a big bill. i'll take on the heat, the opposition. he held out promise of a big comprehensive immigration bill that his predecessors could not achieve. and something happened, according to lindsay graham who then came -- he pins it down to a couple hour time frame. >> nonrepublican lindsey graham? caputo says he's not a republican because he criticizes the president. >> he has been supportive of the president, a lot more than others have. and he has the scars of immigration wars to show he knows what he is talking about. he knows the fractured lines politically on this issue. something happened. hard liners persuaded the president. you can't do this. they are trying to jam you up with a really bad deal so he's dug in. democrats think there is a big deal that's possible. a calculation that they can take the heat from a shutdown.

don't forget, democrats have a lot of momentum in their base, a lot of energy to resist trump. you see all the polling and support of d.r.e.a.m.ers, they want the leverage here. you know, the promise of donald trump was he was a deal guy, right? a compilation on anderson's program of all the time he talked about the great deals and we will be so tired of winning. he is able to make that on financial markets and tax reform and all of that. he is not showing his hand very capably of bringing on a deal in washington on these kinds of crisis matters. >> chris, it sounds like what republicans are saying today, democrats are digging in on d.r.e.a.m.ers and putting the fatality of those 800,000 young people over the military, the chip program, opioid abuse, all the other things republicans say, you know, keep the government running and we'll be able to work all this out approximately i mean, do democrats risk -- obviously it is a risk for democrats.

>> yeah. the polls show it. we showed earlier. >> actually, more americans would blame the democrats right now. it is basically even. 34% to 32%. but they are staking the future on the fate of the d.r.e.a.m.ers at the moment. >> they are. and they are doing itnort of an unrelated bill which is the continuing resolution. but it is their only leverage points. it is is one of these things in an ideal functioning congress you wouldn't do this. but we don't have that and haven't for a long time. this is the way that the minority party seems to exert its power. i'm kept cal that in the longview, and by that i mean sort of six months to the election view, that democrats would land a is significant amount of blame for the government shutdown. the reason i say it is past experience. chris made the point earlier, we never had a government shutdown where one party controlled everything. don't underestimate that.

it is hard for me to imagine that if the government shuts down, if people, regular people, not us. regular people who don't follow this all the time will dial in and say, oh, washington is broken. they won't look and say, wait a minute, donald trump is a republican. republicans control the house. republicans control the senate. why is this not republicans fault? i think, well, the senate rechoirs a motion of 60 votes. that is a complicated argument that the average person will not dial into. that's why democrats are standing so firm on this. they think they win -- and i know real lives are at stick here. but there is always a political calculation as well. they think they win politically in a shutdown because republicans will get the blame. >> david, let's tease out alisyn's point a little bit more coul the argument be made they vice president been aggressive enough? that if the d.r.e.a.m.ers matter so much, what is the deal

they're putting on the table and saying we want this and this and this or we won't give you the votes. or if you do give us this and this and this, we will keep this government open right now. in they are going to play the game, should they be even more aggressive than what reporting reveals right now? >> you know, maybe so if they were negotiating with steven miller, the president's hard line adviser on immigration instead of donald trump. donald trump is so unpredictable. he wants a deal on d.r.e.a.m.ers. he also wants a wall or something that probg phaeults a wall or some way to declare victory on security. he's so unpredictable on this issue that all of a sudden tomorrow he could call into a conference deal and there could be a deal on comprehensive immigration reform. we all know this is true. of course i agree with what chris just said about the political blowback. this is a president who can stand with republicans.

maybe we will just make a deal on his own with democrats. we have no idea. he's rewriting the rules. and i have to believe whether you're lindsey graham or chuck schumer, you're sitting there thinking i know we're in a horrible place but we could still got a big deal, not just on d.r.e.a.m.ers but something bigger. a deal that has alluded washington for a long time. >> 87 of american people say they want somhing done to keep the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> if there's one issue that should be dealable, it's this one. david gregory, chris cillizza, thank you very much. senate democrats standing by protecting d.r.e.a.m.ers. one tells us why he is voting no and risking a government shutdown. plus, i sit down with a panel of women to get their take on what their life is like one year into the trump presidency. you'll hear from die hards and the resistance.

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shut down showdown in the hands of the senate republicans today. they need the to convince democrats to support their spending bill. one, the republicans don't have all their members in line for a vote. two, because of the filibuster rule, it takes 60 votes to pass. what is the big sticking point? what is the chance for progress? senator merkley from oregon joins us now. >> good to be with you. >> safe to assume you are no on the c.r. unless what? >> unless we include the three bipartisan proposals that have been on the table waiting to be taken up. that includes of course children's health insurance program. that includes our community

health clinics, the front door that haven't been authorized in three months. r.e.a.m.ers who have been our contributing and are being treated very poorly by the president and republicans. >> is there any indication that the senate majority leader will work with you on this if the president wants to try to whip this up before shutdown? >> all roads lead back to the president. he said we would do whatever deal was sent to him. he proceeded to have people of to the white house. he was ready for compromise. then when push comes to shove, he takes off for pennsylvania to campaign. and then he is taking off for florida to raise money and doesn't seem engaged about here is the deal. it's sitting on the table. it has republican supporters, democratic supportrs. so mr. president, maybe you should stay in d.c. and get this deal done. >> so let's look at the stakes on the table. the house resolution has chip in

it. is that in the senate version right now? >> the house version has come over to the senate. we are unable to put a senate version on the floor because mitch mcconnell has blocked -- basically the fancy term is amendment tree. he is blocking any proposal from democrats to be put on the table, any bipartisan agreement from ds and rs. >> why? he is saying it is you guys. he calls it the schumer shutdown. >> this is all politics. essentially for three and a half months while we have been demanding we address these core issues, he's been obsessed, mitch mcconnell and the republicans have been obsessed first with trying to rip health care from 30 million americans. when they failed on that they focused on a tax bill to deliver a trillion dollars to the

richest americans. they were not concerned at all about our chiropractor. not concerned about our community members whose legal status has been up in the air, ourommunityealth clinics. republicans are on all three pieces. so it -- we're ready to put this on the floor and have a vote is on it. yesterday we asked to go ahead and have a vote on the house proposal which, by the way, for republican senators yesterday said they would oppose. so we could clear the grounds and get down to the negotiations and get this deal done. >> is it true that senator schumer is pitching a short, short, short-term c.r. of several days to continue negotiations? >> well, this came from democrats and republicans. jerry moran put it forward. democrats put it forward. and here's the reason why. because since mitch mcconnell has been unable to focus on getting this deal done, we want

to force the republican leadership to focus, force the president to focus with a very short c.r. so it's like go spend the next 24 hours working on this. come back and show us where you are. maybe we'll get you another 24 hours. that way we don't shut down the government. but we finally get the negotiations that are necessary to close a deal on this bipartisan proposal. >> another avenue of criticism. the urgency of closing down the government is immediate. daca, the d.r.e.a.m.ers is in march. that's the president's deadline. it's artificial. he could extend it. but why do you have to do it now when you will get another point of leverage as the deadline looms in another month or so? >> if we want to take care of the urgent piece, a short-term c.r. takes care of that. every single day our comnity members are living without legal status. more than 100 lose their legal status each day. they have been held in limbo forever. we stand up for our community

members, contributing community members being treated unfairly. and that's not the only thing here. the fence is not included in this proposal. republicans have said they are for defense. but it is not in this proposal. community health centers are not in this proposal. these are affordable, friendly front door for millions and millions of americans. the thing that is so frustrating here, chris, you have republicans and democrats together on all three of these pieces and yet the president, instead of being engaged, and mitch mcconnell instead of being engaged, are off wandering in the wilderness anywhere almost salivating over shutting down the government. trump thinks it would be healthy tore shutting down the government. i disagree. i think it is bad policy, bad politics. >> are you surprised the numbers are much ticking up more toward the democrats side. >> well, the numbers had trump

and the republicans 53% when you add them together. >> you remember trump, though, in part because he's winning the messaging game against you guys, he is separated out from republicans. he does have it both ways with his base and the american people right now. you do not. people are saying if it shuts down, it's on you. are youorried about that? >> i think the american people will see that the republican is in charge of the presidency, in charge of the

clue as to why he won't let as many on the floor as anything. the president is leaving.

how can you not think he needs to be here to bring you guys altogether and figure out a deal which he says he wants. >> well, listen, i wish he would stay. i was just indicating right now the decision is really in the senate. maybe the president can move that along. >> i haven't talked witome of the others. i would like to point out one thing. there isn't a leadership vacuum on the democratic side apparently because mr. schumer has been able to keep his democrats in line. he's been able to exercise his leadership, if you will, to simply say don't he vote for this. >> but why? why, chris? 87% of the american people say help the d.r.e.a.m.ers. every day lives are being destabilized and changed. why can't you guys work it into a deal or get a clean bill to

help those people when you all say you want to. >> i'm one of those people who wants to help the d.r.e.a.m.ers. but they really are separate issues. we are working together. there are republicans and democrats who are working together. i'm one of those groups who are working together to fix the d.r.e.a.m.ers. but you know what, we can do that without shutting down the government. >> but they say you have done nothing to date. you had six months. nothing has happened. now is their point of leverage, now is the time to force you to do something. you know the old expression when you have six different plans, you don't have one. and, again, that's back to leadership. >> but of those six different plans, they really are very, very similar. there isn't much difference between them. and there will be other points of leverage. but really, chris, this comes down to something simple. can we work together. can you give us another couple weeks. it turns out this is difficult. that is the thing that many people may not appreciate. there are reasons we haven't done this under president obama,

there's reasons we haven't done it under previous presidents. once again, republicans and democrats feel much the stapame this. i think we will solve it. >> 87% of the american people want you to. one, do you believe that the white house/the president himself is or are, depending on your like for grammar, telling witnesses not to answer certain questions? we heard from adam schiff he certainly believes that's true with steve bannon because counsel went to the white house for guidance. but do you believe the white house? and even the president are telling people what to answer? >> i don't know. you used the term witnesses. to be clear on one thing, it's can clear they didn't tell other witnesses. i was actually leading the investigation or the hearing with mr. dearborn, deputy chief of staff. >> and he answered. >> he answered everything. and so did mr. lewandowsky.

he never claimed privilege. he said i'm not prepared to answer. >> how did that fit with you? how are you not prepared? did you not expect them? how do you not know the answers? >> well, they are very broad. some of these hearings go on for 8, 9, 10 hours. >> right. >> in that time, there are occasions when they want answers. hey, if you need to come back and investigate and make sure you're clear, sure, come back in a couple days and answer the question. >> should the president be telling people not to answer questions? >> in some cases that' appropriate. s idea of executive privilege has been time honored. >> but never extended to a transition period. >> r50euight. he needs to say i need to talk in private with counsel. i have to tell you mr. bannon, the privilege he claimed, i

completely disagree with that. it was so broad and so sweeping. i don't know whether the president told him that. i suspect he didn't, not in the scope he claimed. but remember, republicans and democrats told him you have to come back. >> right. >> we will compel you to answer these questions. >> he has been subpoenaed. jackie speier, i won't play the sound because you're aware of the issue. she said not just glenn simpson, the founder of fusion gps hired chris steele, put together the dossier on trump and russia connections. it's not just glenn simpson but open sourcing documents that gives her reason for concern there are significant money laundering concerns involving trump properties and russian money. >> if you are using glenn simpson as a source for nearly anything i look at it with a skeptical eye. >> why? >> the dossier has proven to be

one of the most fell labors documents ever presented before this committee. >> it is not one document. it is a compilation of memos. some verified, some not. how does that make it entirely fellacious. >> fell me anying in th dossier after more than a year of investigation you know is true. and the answer was, well, we know carter page went to moscow. well, everyone knew that. he was public about that. he spoke at the same place president obama spoke about. tell me something else in the dossier that's true. well, i don't know how to answer that question, was their response again and again and again. i don't know how to answer that question. mr. simpson can say what he wants. he can make accusations. my heavens, that is not something we have seen before the committee. and i don't think it is fair to any of these individuals to say something that just simply isn't supported by any of the evidence. >> jackie speier says there is open source documentation that

shows concerns about the money that came in and out of trump transactions in previous years. >> i would invite her to bring that to committee and let us examine it. one other thing i would mention is the focus of our committee hasn't been on those types of issues. >> that is not really your purview. mr. mueller could be looking at those potential crimes. it seems suggestive he may be. that's what he is looking at with manafort. but it is outside your purview. fair point. one other thing while i have you on the record. this meme, what is the memo you are selling. >> it is meaningful. it is so important to me and others. >> why. >> not only members of congress but that we declassify as best we can this information and provide it -- >> what kind of information is >> it's primarily dealing with the department ofustice and fbi and imagining this, did they

propose or provide information to the fisa courts and was that information accurate? that's the essence of this. >> so you believe you have proof that a judge allowed warrants in violation of the legal standard for those warrants? >> i'm not going to elaborate on it other than that. >> that is a pretty loaded suggestion, though. this is huge but i can't tell you why. >> yeah. once again, we want to declassify this as quickly and to the greatest degree that we can so that the american people can know. i've been alluding at this for months now saying there is so much that is concerning about some individuals at the department of justice and the fbi. to be very clear, i'm not casting a wide net across the fbi. dedicated public servants. we're talking about a few individuals in very senior leadership positions. >> it is being pitched as something that will bring down the obama administration and hillary clinton. >> i think that's rather dramatic.

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even easier to cry. >> reporter: when you sit there, there's almost too many things to go into right now. but let me tell you what david and louise are facing. 12 counts of torture, 12 counts of false imprisonment. . seven counts of abuse of dependent adult. 6 counts of child abuse. one count of lewd act on child. turpin. if children washed their hands above the wrist that was considered playing in water. take a listen to how else they said that the turpins really punished their children. take a listen. >> the parents would apparently

buy food for themselves and not allow the children to eat it. they would buy food, including pies, apple pies, pumpkin pies, leave it on the counter, let the children look at it but not eat the food. >> reporter: unbelievable they would do this. just to let you know how the children are doing. they are saying the 29-year-old female weighs 82 pounds. the 12-year-old weighs the average weight of a 7-year-old, alisyn. and that's just some of the charges we are hearing that the turpins did to their own children. >> oh, my gosh, stephanie. it's all just so sickening. just truly sickening. thank you very much for the update on that story. so now to this. the first year of donald trump's presidency has been a time of radical awareness of women's issues from the women's marches to the me too movement. so we wanted to see how women across the political spectrum are feeling today. we gathered a group from florida, pennsylvania, virginia and new york, and they did not hold back. here's our latest pulse of the

people. >> a show of hands, how many people voted for president trump? four people voted for president trump. how many peopletill consider themselves super strong supporters. let me start with you. how are you feeling today? >> i feel awful. i feel awful that i voted for someone for the wrong reasons. what made me vote for trump is when i was sitting there watching his 1980s interview when he sounded real good. he sounded like a president i wanted to have. he got into office and he started saying this stuff out of his mouth. and i was just not impressed with what i was seeing. >> essex dreamily unpresidential. he has disappointed me as a president. but i have not been disappointed by his presidency so far as far as the actual policy changes that are having, the actual effects they are having on the stock market. >> his actions against women, against the environment, his

actions against other countries, his racism, his sexism, sexual predation. >> it is absolutely appalling. >> alice, you don't believe that the president has been accused of sexual assault and harassment? >> i believe that the president has been accused of everything under the sun that you could possibly think of. >> do you believe his accusers? >> no. >> what? >> they haven't moved their case to court. >> did you believe the one against weinstein? >> i don't believe them yet either. i don't believe any of the women. >> harvey weinstein should still be making movies? >> no. he pretty much admitted it just like franken admitted it by resigning. but my thing is tho women, we have yet to really examine them or know who they are. >> the president's own words about grabbing -- excuse me for

saying that. he said it. >> i've heard way worse than that. >> the way his words are taken out of context over and over again. he did not. he talked about what was possible in the world of celebrities. president trump never had to do -- he would never have had to do that kind of thing. he's not that kind of >> could be. >> we know who is lying. >> why is it everyone who loves donald trump wants to make excuses for him. when he's out of control and talking reckless, i can't go along with that and make excuses for him. when he was talking to billy bush, he said what he said. >> he's a man. >> them saying he's just a man. but he's the president. he's supposed to be a role model. >> carol, we spoke to you exactly a year ago, exactly a year ago. you had been a hillary clinton supporter. you were quite devastated that she had lost. you said after donald trump's

victory, your plan was to talk to a lot more trump voters and persuade them to come to the democratic side. i'm just wondering if you've attempted that. >> we have one right here that i'm happy to meet. i have a lot of trump voters in my family, my extended family. but i found it was very difficult to maintain a loving relationship and talk about politics. >> i'm not going to waste my time trying to switch somebody's mind that is already made up. that's part of the problem, right? we need to be focused on our candidates, getting them in there. we did that in virginia and it worked. >> what we found was that talking to diehard republicans was not very fruitful. but on the other hand, there are many reasonable republicans out there, not the trump base, and the trump base, you cannot speak to the trump base and expect them to comeover in order to get to the results that we want. >> how has your life changed in

the last year? >> drastically. i started a group in my county and we have flipped the county blue for the first time since 1961 in a governor's race. if you want to see a result of -- i know not everyone is upset with the president, but a lot of people are, and very rapidly we changed -- we funneled our anger and hurt into action. >> very rapidly. it was right after the election. >> it was two days after. >> from where you both sit, the resistance, the so-called resistance feels active and alive. >> it's so strong. >> what is it doing? >> we flipped 15 seats from republican to democrat in the virginia house this year. 11 of those are women. we've got the first openly lesbian woman, the first asian-american woman, the first latina woman and the first transgender woman as well. there's 11. if you want to see a specific

result of what is happening since the 2016 presidential election, look at virginia. >> but wait. there's more. how do these women feel about the national women's march tomorrow? is it open to all? more of the "pulls of the people" next.

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global. tomorrow more marches are planned as part of the so-called resistance. ose?do trump voters feel about here is partwo of "pulsef the people." >> there's a women's march again this weekend. show of hands. anybody marching? >> no. >> you're marching twice? >> i'm marching twice. >> can you articulate for us what is the main message of the march? >> the message is women's rights. we are not going to lie down and be walked over. >> what's really important to understand about the march, though, is this is not about millions of people coming out and marching. this is a symbolic restatement of our activism and our resistance, getting out there and creating voting possibilities, electing people like doug jones, changing the demographic nature of local elections, running for office. i feel that any woman who has to go down there and march wearing

a p hat has issues, real issues, not related to politics. >> what do you think those are? >> i'm not a vagina. >> if the billy bush tapes are so egregious, why are you going out there with the vagina on the top of your head. >> why are you more offended by a penning hat with ears than what you heard on the billy bush tape? >> i'm offended by the pink hat with ears because of what they say it symbolizes. i'm offended because some of these women are down there in costume. if men have an issue, i don't want to see them down there in hats symbolizing their vaginas. >> as a i can't march in the march. >> why? >> you'll never win us over. >> i'm not trying to to. >> it's not all ability trump.

there are republican women out here who don't support trump that should be part of the march. i think it's crazy that they're not including all the women. >> what do you think about this, only pro women agree with you? >> it's true. >> as far as the march, i would think any woman who wanted to have a pro women attitude would be welcome. >> if republicans want to show up and march -- >> if i want to show up and march for pro life, i cannot. >> of course you can. everybody can do that. >> why reject conservative women? >> nobody is rejecting conservative women. we're rejecting conservative ideals and the conservative platform. we're totally rejecting it. we're not anti-abortion, not anti-choice, not anti immigration, we're not anti environment, we're not pro pollution. we want regulations and we want protections to stay in place. >> these moments that we're all having, that's actually an unintended consequence.

>> a great point would the manchester metoo movement have ever happened if donald trump were not president? >> we don't know -- >> gretchen carlson coming out and all these women who have come out are not necessaly a reaction against donald trump.i >> roger ailes. >> -- empowerment of women. >> bill o'reilly, they were all outed and then the real stuff hit the fan. the stuff hit the fan. >> this is such good news. honestly donald trump is minting a feminist every minute of every day as president. >> because the feminists are going to get their tax cut. the feminist who may be in the military who just got the 2.4% increase in pay. >> aren't you saying the same thing. you're both saying donald trump is meanting a feminist, just coming at it from different angles. >> this is an enormously pont time for women.

we've achieved so much. we don't want to go backwards from this time. we want to go forward. >> it's fair to say president trump encourages strong feelings on both sides. we're following a lot of news. let's get right to it. we are absolutely at this point headed to a government shutdown. there is no resolution currently in site. >> senator schumer, do not shut down the federal government. we have to sit down together and solve this, with the president or without. >> they're prepared to shut down the government over the issue of illegal immigration. >> if mitch mcconnell wanted a budget, we would have a budget. at some point in time we have to do our job. >> this is completely dysfunctional appropriations process. i don't like playing shut down politics or games manship. >> i don't know what the white house's position is with respect to theontinuing resolion to