so all you pay for is data. choose by the gig or unlimited. and ask how to get a $150 prepaid card when you buy a new lg x charge. it's a new kind of network designed to save you money. call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile.com welcome to "insid politics." i'm john king. k you for sharing this very important day with us. we begin this hour with a big crisis moment on capitol hill in washington, and yes, across the country. less than 12 hours to go. aides on capitol hill says the government is most likely going to shut down. now it's a matter of how long it lasts, aides say. chuck schumer, they're not talking. look for progress?

you won't find any. blame? there's no shortage of that. last hour the public leader said this of his democratic colleague. >> this should be a no-brainer. and it would be except he has to convince his members to filibuster in a spending bill that doesn't include legislation. they're demanding something for people who came in this country illegally and the craze for this seems to be dawning on my democratic leader. >> top aides say don't look at this. president trump promised he would come to washington and cut all these deals. the white house says it's all the democrats' fault. >> we don't want a shutdown, but if mr. schumer insists on it, he is in a position to force this on the american people. they have nothing in this bill that they do not like. the only reason they are not

voting for it is they want other things to be added to it, and they want a shutdown. that's the only explanation we have. >> cnn's pl mattingly on capitol hill. phil, is it inevitable that the plan that came out of the house last night is dead in the senate? >> reporter: what we're waiting for right now is a vote we know is going to fail, basically. to give you a sense of where things currently stand in the u.s. senate right now, they can't even get an agreement to when to actually have that vote they know is going to fail. they need 60 votes to move that forward, pass that procedural vote. it's very clear with democrats and a handful of senate republicans, including mitch mcconnell, doesn't have that. what you laid out in the intro says it perfectly. this is not a moment of people in a room trying to figure things out. this is a moment where people are casting blame. they are digging in, the republicans.

they feel like they have a winning argument. they feel like the other side is going to get blamed for everything happening in the days and potentially weeks ahead. there is no movement at all. when is that going to break? when are people going to start recognizing that meetings need to be happening? that will be key. as you know right now that's not happening. we're 14 hours from a shutdown, 15 hours? >> as we count the math down, as we count the hours down, a long day for you on capitol hill. suddenly, just in recent minutes, there was a note from the daca house members saying, we think we're done with our votes but stay flexible. is that a sign they think there could be a last-minute temporary deal for a day orwo or three? >> my idea is some of them will beoing home, some of them have trips to foreign countries being scheduled. all of those things are happening, everybody leaving town. wouldn't look so good with the government shutdown. for the same reason the white house canceled president trump's trip to mar-a-lago. they realize it would be best to stay in town and have everybody

work than to go home and not deal with this at all. i will tell you talking to republican aides last night and this morning, they are cool with going home. they said they did their work, it's the senate's turn now. the house and the senate are very much aligned on this. they're not moving. there is no alternative they're considering. the bill the house passed is the bill senate leader mitch mcconnell is trying to put up repeatedly in the days ahead. wear them down. that's the strategy, that hasn't shifted and that underscores republicans very comfortable as they head toward that shutdown moment, john. >> raise your hand if anything comes up in the hour ahead. we'll bring you back up with us in studio. cnn's dana bash, karl holtz with the "new york times," bloomberg a

and and allie johnson with politico >> there is nothing in the bill the democrats object to, yethe democrats say they won't vote for it, because the democrats want to deal with the daca issue. they say no way, we're not doing another temporary. they believe this is their leverage. how will that play out? will the democrts blink in the end? do most of them think this is okay? but some of them have to run in elections this year in dicey situations. >> they do, and that's what's so remarkable, at least on the surface it seems as though even those up for reelection in trump states, states where trump won in double digits, plus-plus, are on board with not voting for a budget bill that will keep the government running because they want to dig in. and to me what that says is that the dynamic of 2018 is a base dynamic, even for democrats in red states.

they want to keep the democratic base engaged and that means resist, stand your ground, stand firm, keep your spine stiff and don't give in. because if you do, these are the particulars you were talking about, obviously. these d.r.e.a.m.ers might not get a good deal. it's very risky. there is no question about that. because i agree with you, in the last 24 hours, republicans have been remarkably good and glib at their messaging on this. the schumer shutdown. what are you going to do about kids who don't have health care? things that are really important and really resonate with the average amican. >> and we'll talk more about blame later, but just on the big question there, this is one of the reasons donald trump was elected, because a normal working class family that has to make tough choices, has to set a family budget, has to look at

washington. every seven months, it seems, we're facing a government shutdown. so they sent someone in who said, you're stupid, i can fix this. i can cut the deals. there's no question the democrats are making a big choice here. what's the risk for the president? >> the president can be this great deal maker who can come to washington and not be ideally driven by one party or another. he said he could work with democrats, he could work with schumer. he has a long relationship with him in new york. but we haven't seen that. we have a president who shifts from one thing on the other, saying i have a bipartisan. that's what, peng, the democrats are seeing and they bank on. they believe the president's erratic approach to this will cause americans to say this is why we have a shutdown, because we have a president who is tweeting, undercutting his chief of staff, tweeting comments that are at odds with what the

republican leadership has called for, and that the american people will blame the president and the republicans who control the white house and the senate. >> you'll see the white house come out, ande heard him already, mark short, the director of congressional affairs. yesterday on the panel of the university of virginia referred not to democrats but to congress, trying to drive the message that the white house is fine, it's congress that's dysfunctional. but you've got republican members of congress in house and in the senate saying, on the record, this is a situation that requires presidential leadership, and the role of the president here has been extraordinarily confusing. he never said clearly what he wanted in a daca deal, and then came out yelled the white house's position on children's health insurance, and all of this has sent republicans in a

tailspin. sent his. republicans really are at their with it's end. he can try to sideline them for us but that doesn't mean he can't throw a grenade in these proceedings. ma many. they've gotten right to the brink and solved them in the end. for the lack of meetings and no big summit planned in the next few hours, all that we have tells us the government is going to shut down in 12 hours. is there some way to fix this? >> i think the bad sign is that all the effort right now is into trying to assign blame f. democrats might change their

mind, but am talking to democrats this morning, they were pointing at a new "wall street journal" poll, and they said, look at that poll. a majority of americans have a very unfavorable opinion of the president. what's been going on here the past two weeks, you got the book out, you got the racially charged language, you have the porn star, which is actually, you know, also sort of in the mix of the discussion of what's going on at the white house. the democrats are confident. >> cookie food and chaos in the government. >> the democrats blamed them in 2013 is when they thought the republicans would get hammered. this was a fight over

immigration. the democrats took back the senate. if there was a problem, it didn't last. >> the rollout of the obamacare came and was a fiasco, and that deflected attention at that time. i think both sides really need to be cautious here, because as i told someone earlier, these things take unusual balancing acts. >> one of my questions is mitch mcconnell seems to be leading democrats where right now it an anti-trump, anti-republican year. you do have those democrats that are -- john tester's leadership said, we have to quit doing this. so they had a temporary shutdown

to release immigrants. >> that would be a convoluted breach of trust. the difference in 2013 is there was a republican in the white house. this is total republican control, and we haven't seen a shutdown with total republican control. a story that i heard this morning that really underscores the point you were making, both of you were, about it being a blame game in public and not a lot behind the scenes. i talked to. this is where a lot of deals and bipartisan discussions get done. democrats and republicans realized how much they were talking past each other. they said, wait a minute. do you really think we're not going to deal with the d.e.a.m.ers in the nt month or two before the deadline?

and the answer was, why would we? look at the mixed messages we're getting from you and the president? that we're not going to stand firm and allow. and the fact that these conversations are not happening in a more formal way, they're just acting organically ming senators who know that's not the way to pass this. >> is it trust that brings dysfunction or dysfunction that brings trust? we're also waiting for president trump to speak at the march of life in washington. when president reagan did it, he didn't beam him in like the president did, he called it. >> we're talking about a woman's right to control their own body. but doesn't the unborn child

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welcome back. that's massachusetts democrat ed markey. he talks it the trump shutdown, republicans call tt shit the sc shut down. they're not trying to make negotiations to avert a shutdown at the moment, no attempts to avert it. at the moment attempts to assign blame. we're waiting for the president of the united states any moment now. he's going to step into the rose garden at the white house. he's going to do a video presentation to a rally nearby just before the annual march for life here in washington, d.c. a very important march every year for the anti-abortion movement. the president will speak from there in a moment. we'll take you there live when he does. but first, repression turning to recrimination this morning on the white house lawn. >> i find it really regrettable

that for petty partisan reasons playing to the left wing base, you have otherwise responsible members of the senate being willing to shut down the government for this reason. >> you have your scorecard. the white house blames the democrats. so, too, does the republican house speaker paul ryan. he says the democrats deserve to take the blame if in less than 12 hours from now the government shuts down. >> i think the democrats are hoping the american people won't know that they have their fingerprints all over this. the chips in the extension bill, the government supports that. keeping the government funded, the government supports that. there is nothing in the bill that the house passed yesterday, not a single thing, that the democrats oppose. that's what's so ironic about all of this. so this is nothing more than legislative hostage taking. >> again, for your scorecard, ryan, the public will side with him and shut the government down just to get a deal for the

d.r.e.a.m.ers. it's a big and complicated debate. >> the republicans are in majority control of the house and senate. the republicans are in control of the house of representatives. the repz cublicans are in contr of the white house. >> i understand. it's an election year. they're all political partisans. this is what they have to do. could they wait until 4:00, 5:00, 6:00 to do that and go into a private room and stop pointing fingersnd try to stop this?asking too much in this department? >> i don't think so. >> i don't, either, but it has happened. now the focus is you played ed markey showing the big poster of trump shutdown. it's literally the rhetorical war of whether it will be called the trump shutdown or the schumer shutdown. before i came on, i texted a democrat, a schumer shutdown,

that's pretty tough to swallow. and the answer was, but trump shutdown is the one trending on twitter. >> heading into this, we don't know how this is going to end. if there is a shutdown, the important thing is how long does it last? does it affect people in a way that leaves them mad at somebody or mad at all of them. polls asking the question beforehand. who would you blame if the government shuts down? 34% democrats, 32% republicans, 21% the president, 13% don't know. if you add up the republicans and trump, you get a majority saying they blame the right. we don't know how long this is going to last, but it seems everybody at the moment thinks we're okay with this. which is a pretty horrible place to be when you think about responsible governing, but in the political workplace, everybody thinks okay. >> that's how deep politics are in washington, that this is being gamed out, how is this

going to help us? i think at the end of the day, the public will blame everyone. but there is more republicans than democrats right now. i do think one thing to watch today, too, is the vote inhe senate. the actual numbers in that vote are going to matter. because if senator mcconnell can't deliver his own majority, if they can't hit 50 -- >> and they might not. >> -- then some republicans aren't going to vote for this. it's going to make it harder for them to say this is the democrats' fault when their own people are opposing it. >> and because this has happened before, and we've come close to this happening before, things that happen in the past tend to come back to support you and sometimes haunt you. remember, in 2013, the republicans helped broker a government shutdown because they were mad about obamacare. democrats said, that was reckless. democrats have nothing to do with keeping the government open. why would you do that? listen to the issues of immigration. >> we could do the same thing on immigration.

we believe strongly on immigration reform. we could say we're shutting down the government until you pass immigration reform. it would be governmental chaos. >> i join the people in terms of what would happen in a shutdown of government. it's an unthinkable tactic to use in the political debate. >> videotape is such a horrible thing for politicians. it's not just the democrats here. you can use those bites and say, hello, you're about to do what you're about to do. a guy in the white house, when he wasn't in the white house, he said if the government shuts down, it's their own fault. >> it starts at the top, and the president is the leader, and he's got to get everyone inhe room and lead. in 50 years or 100 years from now, when they talk about the government shutdown, they're going to be talking about the president of the united states. who was the president at that time? they're not going to be talking who the head of the house was, the head of the senate.

>> would you say washington is not flexible? >> now you know why there is blame sort of being put on all sides and why all sides see some political value in this, because they have those clips that they can use. they can take it to their base and say, this is what the other side is doing to you to shut down the government, and they're using that as leverage to score some political points. one other thing is that republicans in the senate are unhappy with the idea of another cr. they've been passing crs for the last year, for the better part of the last year, and they're just exhausted. republicans controlling the house and the senate and the white house, they were supposed to bring back regular order. they were supposed to pass a budget through the normal appropriation process. the fact they're on their fourth cr, not something the military likes, not something republican budget hawks like, and there is some -- >> not something any family that has to make these tough choices every day, every week, every

month can possibly understand. >> and that's why you have senate majority leader mcconnell having trouble getting the 50 votes. you ha peopl like senator lindsey grah, jeff flake, mike rounds as of yesterday. i think he's flipped since then, but they're exhausting ideas of resolution, kicking the same can down the road each time. >> and they're not wrong. this is, as you alluded to, the fundamental primary job of the united states congress. and both parties have done this at various times, and it's just mind-boggling that they can't figure this out. fund the government the right way. >> and republicans argue, we don't really have full control because we don't have 60 votes in the senate, so you can't blame us completely. everybody has an excuse. get to a system where you know the deadlines, you know when these things are coming, start a process of getting there. >> if you went around and asked

every member in the house and the senate who they blame, i think a vast majority would say they blame the president. at 6:00 a.m. yesterday morning, the house was set to pass narrowly the bill, which they did pass, and i think that bill would have passed in the senate. i don't think you can deny that a single tweet the president had, oftentimes we hear the white house brush these things aside. but the president really did throw the legislative process into chaos by undermining the position of house and senate republicans. so i just do think that the view you would get, bipartisan view you would get, is that the president really has undermined the position of his own party continually. >> as we watch the spend debate, the president here at the march of fe let' listen. [ applause ]

to all here in the rose garden and the vast gathering of young and old on our massive lawn at this very hour, welcome back to washington, d.c. and welcome back to the largest pro-life gathering in the united states of america, the 45th annual march for life. [ applause ] >> more than 240 years ago, our founders wrote words that have echoed through the ages. they declared these truths to be self-evident, that we are, each of us, endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. and among these are life, liberty and putter suthe pursui happiness. 45 years ago, the supreme court of the united states turned its back on the inalienable right to life. but in that moment, our movement

began. a movement that continues to win hearts and minds. a movement defined by generosity, compassion and love. and a movement that one year ago tomorrow inaugerated the most pro-life president in american history, president donald trump. [ applause ] >> from preventing taxpayer dollars, from preventing abortion overseas, from preventing life in 2010,en shrined in the constitution of the united states. this president has been a tireless defender of life and conscience in america. and today president trump will do even more to defend the most vulnerable in our society. my friends, life is winning in america because love saves

lives. and know as you march for life that your compassion, your persistence, your activism and your prayers are saving lives. and this pro-life generation should never doubt we're with you. this president stands with you. and he who said, before i formed you in the womb, i knew you, is with you as well. i believe with all of my heart, with your continued dedication and compassion, with pro-life majorities in the congress, with president donald trump in this white house and with god's help, we will restore the sanctity of life to the center of american law. [ applause ] an a grateful heart, on this 45th annual march for life, it is now my high honor and

distinct privilege to introduce to you the 45th president of the united states of america, president donald trump. [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you very much. that's so nice. sit, please. we have tens of thousands of people watching us right down the road. tens of thousands. i congratulate you and at least we picked a beautiful day. you can't get a more beautiful day. i want to thank our vice president, mike pence, for that wonderful introduction. i also want to thank you and karen for being true champions for life. thank you, and thank karen.

[ applause ] today hei'm honored and really proud to be the first president to stand with you here at the white house to address the 45th march for life. that's very, very special. 45th march for life. and this is a truly remarkable group. today tens of thousands of milies, students and patriots, and really just great citizens, gather here in our nation's capitol. you come from many backgrounds, many places, but you all come for one beautiful cause, to build a society where life is celebrated, protected and cherished. the march for life is a movement born out of love. you love your families, you love your neighbors, you love our nation, and you love every child born and unborn because you believe that every life is

sacred, that every child is a precious gift from god. [ applause ] >> we know that life is the greatest miracle of all. we see it in the eyes of every new mother who cradles that wonderful innocent and glorious newborn child in her loving arms. i want to thank every person here today and all across our country who works with such big hearts and tireless devotion to make sure that parents have the care and support they need to choose life. because of you, tens of thousands of americans have been born and reached their full god-given potential. because of you, you're living witnesses of this year's march for life theme. and that theme is love saves

lives. [ applause ] >> as you all know, roe versus wade has resulted in the mobiggt abortion rate in the world. along with china, north korea and others. right now in the united states, the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother's womb in the ninth month. it is wrong. it has to change. americans are more and more pro-life. you see that all the time. in fact, only 12% of americans support abortion on demand at any time. under my administration, we will

always defend the very first right in the declaration of independence, and that is the right to life. [ applause ] >> tomorrow will mark exactly one year since i took the oath of office. i will say our country is doing really our country is the best it's ever been. if you look at the job the countries pouring back into our country. you look at the stock market at an all-time high. unemployment a 17-year low. unemployment for african-american workers at the lowest mark in the history of our country. unemployment for hispanic at a record low in history. unemployment for women -- think of this -- at an 18-year low.

we're really proud of what we're doing. and during my first week in office, i reinstated a policy first put in place by president ronald reagan, the mexico city policy. [ applause ] >> i strongly supported the house of representatives pain-capable bill, which would end painful late-term abortions nationwide. and i call upon the senate to pass this important law and send it to my desk for signing. [ applause ] >> on the national day of prayer, i signed an executive order to protect religious liberty. [ applause ]

>> i'm very proud of that. today i'm announcing that we have just issued a new proposal to protect conscious rights and religious freoms of doctors, nurses and other medical professions. so important. i have also just reversed the previous administration's policy that restricted states' efforts to direct medicaid funding away from abortion facilities that violate the law. [ applause ] >> we are sanctity of life and the family as the foundation of our society. but this movement can only succeed with a heart and a soul and a prayer of the people. here with us today is marian marianna denodo from greensboro,

north carolina. where is marianna? come up here. nice to see you. marianna was 17 when she found out she was pregnant. at first she felt like she had no no place to turn. but when she told her parents, they responded with total love, total affection, total support. great parents? great? i thought you understood. i had to be careful. marianna bravely chose life and soon gave birth to her son. she named him benedict, which means blessing. marianna was so grateful for her parents' love and support that she felt called to serve those who are not as fortunate as her. she joined with others in her community to start a maternity home to care for homeless women who were pregnant. that's great. they named it room at the inn.

today marianna and her husband don are the parents of six beautiful children, and her eldest son benedict and her daughter maria join us here today. where are they? come on over. [ applause ] >> over the last 15 years, room at the inn has provided housing, child care, counseling, education and job training to more than 400 women. even more importantly, it has given them hope. it has shown each woman that she is not forgotten, that she is not alone, and it really now has a whole family of people that will help her succeed. that hope is the true gift of this incredible movement that brings us together today. it is the gift of friendship,

the gift of mentorship, and the gift of encouragement, love and support. those are beautiful words and those are beautiful gifts. andost importantly of all, it is the gift of life itself. that is why we march, that is why we pray, and that is why we declare that america's future will be filled with goodness, peace, joy, dignity and life for every child of god. thank you to the march for life special, special people, and we are with you all the way. may god bless you and may god bless america. thank you. thank you. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> president trump shaking some

hands, greeting some of his visitors at the white house after speaking for several minutes at the march for life rally, just steps away from the white house on the national mall. an annual big event for the anti-abortion movement here in washington. and a statement from the trump administration. vice president pence spoke at the rally last year. he has a big event at the white house stating unequivocally his support for a pro-life agenda, certainly one of the biggest areas of the president's base. a big change for this president who factually was once pro-choice. this is an issue in which he has been consistent on as president of the united states without a doubt. this pie of conservative movement today for a march that's critical to them, his most loyal supporters. what did you hear from that speech? >> the language from that speech was pretty emotional and heartfelt, which we're not used to hearing trump speak with that

kind of language. you know, trump is a strength president. we're used to kind of -- you know, he's a rhetorical sledgehammer and this was him in more emotional tones that are -- you know, we hear him in those kinds of terms far less often. but it's true. i think one of the most surprising things to me about the trump presidency is how faithful and closely he's hued to the promises he made to evangelicals who were tremendously important in getting him elected. it's one of the strangest pairings, i think, in modern politics we've ever seen. the new york federal liberal manhattanite who paid off a porn star for $130,000. but he has returned on their investment. >> you can ask ted cruz about how surprising it is. when you think back to the primaries when ted cruz had the map laid out and donald trump took the nomination away from him, essentially, in his view. >> the other quick thing i would

say is that the last republican president who was very, very staunchly anti-abortion, that was george w. bush, and i don't remember during the march for life him having an event that was that robust. he would beam himself in but not in a way that was full of a rally in the rose gardennd having people to come and to give real-life stories. nothing like that. and i think that really does speak to what you were saying, which is more than any other republican we've seen in recent history how reliant he is on the base and base management. >> that is the base of the base. he has to keep them in line and keep them -- if he were to lose the evangelicals -- you see certain things and you go, is this going to be the moment that's going to cost him the evangelical support? he hasn't found that. but they are very determined to keep those people behind the president. he really is super reliant on them. you can see from the effort they

made there. >> more than that, trump is a base politics guy. most presidents come into office and they try to expand their base, move further out from their own political party to govern the entire country. we haven't really seen trump do that. he has constantly been somebody who plays to his own base, and in a different way, the white house's response to the controversial last week of immigration. we heard the white house base say we love it. this is a different sort of thing that his base will love and it speaks to the base political actor this president is. >> let's say if you were expecting donald trump to label arivate issue. you're gooing to see the libert

protections from this administration, including just this week for health care workers who might have had moral objections to certain procedures. the president proceeded to language of not discussing abortion in any way. moving the u.s. embassy. and we had mike pence there because if you go back to convention time, there were still a lot of doubts about donald trump. did he mean it? was he talking the talk and walking the walk? >> if you look at the poll numbers, the president's poll numbers as part of his bait, and part of that his bass played. he's calling on the. it not yet clear what.

it's under that 40% and we're going to the midterms and seeing all these special elections. as we get closer to the midterms, the swing is going so far to the left where the democrats are picking up huge margins, swinging to where trump was in 2016. democrats picking up a lot of ground. trump losing the moderates and the people in the middle in order to keep his base. >> while we were listening to president, an important speech and a rally first on the national mall. as we were listening to the president, a bit of breaking news on the shutdown question. will the president try to broker a last-minute deal? let's get to jeff zelen yry why >> john, it's not just any somebody. it's chuck schumer, the leader of the senate democrats.

that would be a key meeting. . it includes many dechlt. he'll be coming to the white house this afternoon and not too long. but it will be somewhat shortly because time is of the essence here. we do not know if anybody. p but there could still be others at the meeting. we're waiting to find that out. but this was not just senate democrats who were a complication for all this. it was also some senate republicans. we are told the president has been working behind the scenes on the phone. his advisers will not say exactly who he is talking to. probably one of the reasons is because they know that we will reach out to those senators and try and figure out what happened in those conversations. but again, there are a handful of senat republicans.

lindsey graham, of course, chief amon them. i said if they were for a short-term deal but not the deal that passed in the house, you all of thm p. i was told earlier the trip was canceled for the entire weekend. the white hofs wuse was pushing back. certainly will be interesting. john? >> we'll take a quick break, but when we come back, the president inviting the top democrat down from the white house? are the republicans coming, too, or are they a little nervous? be right back. how can you make your hair even stronger?

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and yes activity at the end of that first year. chuck schumer has been here to talk to president trump 11 hours before a government shutdown. mitch mcconnell not invited to that meeting. that has to have republicans a little nervous. this is one of the reasons donald trump got elected. he said he was going to be different, he said he could cut the deals. he said, deals are my art form. others paint pictures or write poetry. this is what i do, i make deals. we are at the one-year mark and this magic deal maker has not made an appearance yet. is this his moment? >> yes, republicans are worried on capitol hill, and really should be, particularly the rank and file. having said that, i cannot imagine -- i haven't had a chance to report, but didn't know what you think since we

spend so much time in the halls together, that mitch mcconnell wants to be there. he wants to havedeniability. if chuck schumer and the president strike a deal, and people don't like it, they can say, go ask the president. he made the deal with the democrats. >> i want to think the democrats washed their hands of the president because they are truly frustrated. >> what if the president says, you don't trust me. what i'm saying is you keep the government open now, the house bill passes. i will convene a meeting next monday, pick a day, and we'll come tie deo a deal for the dac. >> i don't think that will happen because they had one and it blew up. i think the democrats don't

trust him -- >> the republicans don't trust him, either. they just aren't as public about it. >> i think we'll see a lot of that mistrust this afternoon. this is their moment to get this deal because they're not sure they'll have another chance. i do think this meeting actually sounds promising, but they also need to look like they're doing something, right? we were saying here everyone around town is just pointing fingers. you have to look like you're doing something. but i'm having a hard time seeing what the agreement could be to get senator schumer back on. >> you've watched the white house, you've watched the chief of staff, you've watched the president say time and time again that he is against things his administration are for. now he's bringing in the top democrat when he had his aides go in the white house briefing room and say, this is the schumer shutdown. >> you did see the white house aides talk about the schumer shutdown. there are some things the white house has put out over the last 48 hours to show they are distancing themselves from congress more broadly and the republicans that lead congress saying, they should have had a

budget done back in september, they are not doing their job in passing all these crs. we did see this last year when the president met with schumer and pelosi, chuck and nancy as he likes to say. he said republicans aren't getting the job done so i'm going to the democrats. if he does cut a deal with schumer, that's what you can expect to hear from the white house. the republicans didn't do their job so now he's pushed to the democrats. >> the president meeting with the top senate democrat. sometimes this has happened in the past, and from a conservative point of view, bad things have happened. how about senator schumer? his base wanted daca yesterday. his base wanted, you give this man nothing, especially after what happened in the oval office the other day where he talked about s-holes, and i don't want haitians, i want norwegians. does chuck schumer have a longer leash to cut a deal? >> probably a longer leash --

chuck schumer just arrived at the white house, so it's happening -- but he has to really be able to show that he got something from this. >> it's a fascinating moment. again, y see the countdown clock of the shutdown right there, the top democrat at the white house with the president of the united states. the clock ticking. thank you for joining us for "inside politics." we'll break to breaking news coverage after a quick break. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish.

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