users either followed a troll account or retweeted one of their tweets. a russian troll army meddled in the presidential election in 2016. a lot of folks, 700,000 of you, were interacting with them. imagine a supermarket with no check-out line. a cashierless store was opened by amazon. sensors track movements, charge their account for the items, and they walk out on the door. it is laced with irony. it is widely blamed for driving traditional stores out of business. that seattle store really interesting experiment. >> check that out later in seattle. >> "new day" starts right now. three democrat senators weigh in on the shutdown. >> nobody wins in a government shutdown. too many people are hurt. >> government shutdown entering day three. >> it was the republicans's job

to govern, to lead. they have failed. >> i had no idea the democrats were this dysfunction al. >> stop victimizing the american people and get back to work on their behalf. >> he should, instead of throwing tweets, pull together the four leaders of the house and the senate, and negotiate. >> as long as stephen miller is in charge of negotiating immigration, we're going nowhere. >> i will not be lectured about what our military needs by a five deferment draft dodger. >> we have soldiers fighting for us who will not be getting paid. this is ridiculous. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". it is monday, january 22nd. 6:00 in new york. alisyn is off. poppy harlow determined here helpful. >> without a vikings win, but i am here and proud of my team. >> life is full of ups and

downs. good to have poppy. >> good to be here. >> the u.s. government shutdown heads to day three. the deep divisions over the fate of d.r.e.a.m.ers failing to produce any compromise. now, there is a major problem we'll address this morning. we don't know what the specific issues are that are keeping the parties apart. why aren't lawmakers telling us more? we will push for answers. now, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said he is willing to start debating immigration legislation if there's no agreement by february 8th. senate minority leader chuck schumer wants a firmer commitment. so where has president trump been all weekend this weekend? he's largely remained on the sidelines in the heated negotiations. he only needs 51 votes to get

this through. not going to happen. each side blaming the other. hundreds of thousands of federal workers will be furloughed today. suzanne malveaux joins us live on hill. any progress at this 6:01 a.m. hour? >> reporter: people are sleeping on it, but no progress yet. hundreds of thousands of federal workers are furloughed, told not to come into work, told their paychecks are delayed. over the weekend, you had a bipartisan group of senators trying to come can up with a plan. there was a vote scheduled for 1:00 in the morning. that was scrapped after it was determined they did not have enough lawmakers to actually pass it. >> well, let's step back from the brink. let's start victimizing the american people and get back to work on their behalf. >> reporter: the government shutdown entering day three, after senate minority leader chuck schumer rejected a proposal that would fund the

government for three weeks in exchange for a commitment from the gop leadership to take up a separate future vote on eu immigration and the d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> we had several conversations, talks will continue but yet to reach an agreement acceptable to both sides. >> reporter: a top democratic aide tells cnn they did not give a firm enough commitment to bring a vote. >> it would be my intention to resolve these issues as quickly as possible. it would be my intention to proceed to legislation that would address daca, border security, and related issues. >> reporter: majority whip john cornyn says he's optimistic the senate will vote today to break the impasse. adding that schumer sought to push back the vote to give his caucus a chance to chew on the gop proposal. but a top democratic leadership aide disputes this claim, telling cnn they expect monday's

vote will fall short of the 60 votes needed to reopen the government. >> there's enough blame to be around. i hope we can move from that and find a way to open the government up. >> reporter: both flake and graham announced they wll now vote in favor of the three-week proposal, meaning seven more senators are needed to get on board. one gop aide said republican leaders think they have a shot of pigging off enough democrats to move forward. five red state democrats voted against shutting down the government friday joined with a bipartisan group of moderate lawmakers who worked furiously over the weekend negotiating the compromised deal. >> we recognize that ultimately it is the decision of mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer as to how to proceed. and we're not trying to preempt that but we are trying to be helpful in showing them that there is a path forward

>> reporter: senator graham pointing fingers at the white house over the impasse. >> the white house staff has been pretty unreliable. as long as stephen miller is in charge of negotiating immigration, we're going nowhere. he's been an outlier for years. >> reporter: deputy white house press secretary firing back at graham saying as long as graham is on the side of those in the country illegally and not u.s. citizens and they are going nowhere in terms of negotiations, it is important to note some progress was made. giving up the requirement to send any bill to the president first before presenting it to the senate floor. and schumer also offering to fund the president's border wall in exchange for protection for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. so we will see if there's any additional progress this morning. senate talks resume anything about four hours. chris? >> all right, suzanne. if he keeps talking like that, there will be a shutdown of the golf invitations the president was bringing his way.

he's right, the white house has been resistant, digging in until democrats vote to reopen the government. president trump calling on mcconnell to use the nuclear option if the stalemate continues. caitlyn collins live at the white house with more. is that idea getting any traction? >> reporter: the questions everyone is asking this morning, where has the president been over the weekend as the negotiations between democrats and republicans continue. because trump, who fashioned himself as a deal maker in chief, was largely absent from a lot of these negotiations as they played out over the weekend on capitol hill and into the night late last night. but the white house's messaging has been out in full force with a lot of white house aides pinning the blame on democrats, labeling it the schumer shutdown. that has trickled down to the white house's voice messaging system. >> thank you for calling the white house.

unfortunately, we cannot answer your call today because congressional democrats are holding government funding, including funding for our troops and other national security priorities, hostage to an unrelated immigration debate. due to this obstruction, the government is shut down. >> reporter: but this raises the question of what has the president done to break up the stalemate between republicans and democrats? he has not appeared in public since the government shut down. he has not held a meeting at the white house since friday. and his only tweet, few tweets are about breaking the filibuster rule, something republicans rejected. so all eyes will be on the president here at the white house today to see if he continues to be on the third floor, tweeting, making calls and watching television, or if he gets more involved in negotiations here, poppy. >> i think they may need one of those bipartisan meetings they so famously had on camera a few weeks ago. thanks, kaitlan.

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all right. so we do know that the lawmakers have been holed up this week. they have been negotiating or not negotiating. but they have been there. however, they failed to reach a deal sunday night, so there was no vote on ending the shutdown. so it goes into day three.

everything gets much more real on monday morning. there will be more forebearance and pain. does majority leader mitch mcconnell have the 60 votes he needs? let's discuss. we have cnn political analyst john avlon and david gregory. so, david, what are you hearing about the chances of this being a sooner rather than later end to the shutdown, and why is there so little specifics from either side about what the actual points of contention are? >> i think the issue to look for today is whether democrats have been appeased by the majority leader saying that we can decouple these issues, funding the government, dealing with daca and that they will get to dhaka on the issue of border security immediately after clearing this hurdle.

the question mark is about the president, where he is, where the advisers are, and what he will sign onto. enough democrats who were not assuaged by mcconnell's assurances into the night that he was going to follow through. >> yeah. >> so i think that's the issue here. democrats, whatever pain there may be political and otherwise, are feeling like, you know, their political base is going to be satisfied with the fact that they are holding firm on this issue of daca. >> unless there are red state democrats up for reelection in 2018. there are senators in the center trying to come up with a compromise. to david's point, you not only have the question mark in the oval office but with his credibility with democrats. he kept saying it is my intention. well, that's sort of washington's version of a used car salesman. that's not a commitment. that is floating something.

there's a lot of bad blood. can they take the leap of faith to kick the can three more weeks in hopes of getting a comprehensive deal done. >> and there is discussion whether the president gets involved not only more directly in the negotiations. you saw the flurry of activity that didn't come to anything. >> who is saying that's what they need? >> jeff flake is saying that's what we don't need. >> right. >> the other issue, mcconnell has been saying i'm not going to allow a vote on daca until i know where the president is on this. jeff flake saying over the weekend, senator from arizona, now mcconnell has come off of that. in the senate, in the house, will they allow this as a bipartisan matter to move forward on the question of the d.r.e.a.m.ers, border security independent of where the white house is. >> john avlon, what about concessions made over the weekend? chuck schumer saying that the

president, okay, fine, i'll give 20 billion towards the wall if you do this. there was confusion over appropriation and the language there. but that is a big gift for democrats. >> there is a huge misconception by schumer and by congressman gutierrez on the wall in order to save the d.r.e.a.m.ers, so to speak. that is a huge concession for democrats against their base. devil obviously being in the details. questions about chain migration, visa lottery, things a lot of hard liners take seriously. but on a top level, the deals are going to get done between something for the d.r.e.a.m.ers and something for the border security. >> let's take a quick break. here's what we now know. yes, the democrats are giving the wall. why? the president will call it a wall no matter how little of a wall there is. let's be honest, the shutdown, as bad as it is for you and arguably bad for them, there is app upside.

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president trump's reelection campaign releasing a controversial understated new ad. listen to this. >> only thing that i [ bleep ] regret. >> that's an illegal immigrant charged with murdering two police officers. it's pure evil. president trump is right. build the wall. deport criminals.

stop illegal immigration now. democrats who stand in our way will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants. president trump will fix our border and keep our families safe. >> i'm donald trump, and i approve this message. >> let's discuss the a little bitization of all of this. is this politics at its worst, while hundreds of thousands of americans aren't going to work today? >> that ad is so ugly even by contemporary political standards. literally they say in that ad democrats will be complicit in every murder created by illegal immigrants. so creating fear around illegal immigration. and democrats being complicit in murder. it is a twofer. that is approved by donald j. trump, folks. listen to the last little bit.

that environment coming from the white house isn't a bill on of love. it is not awe great deal maker. it is toxic, intentional. it will make it more difficult for the president to be able to lead on this issue and that ultimately is what will be necessary. >> this is an extreme example of what's going on and shows the president's suggestion he wants a bill of love is b.s. because you don't allow an ad to go out like that. that includes the d.r.e.a.m.ers. they were brought here illegally. you are lumping them in and abusing the facts because you cannot find a metric by which they pose a threat other than illegal transgression entering into the country. they say they are all illegal so they are all criminals. you can't find they are a bigger risk to us than our fellow citizens. so those are the facts. both sides are playing this. the question becomes, david, how long -- the balance. how long does the shutdown play to their advantage so making a deal suspect in their best is

interest? >> well, i think the first couple of days when it was relatively pain free because government workers aren't on the job. it's the weekend. it allows for all the posturing. and for ugly advertisements like that and for each side to play to their base as they dig in, that vows mail message that's playing outgoing at the white house blaming the democrats for holding the country hostage and all the rest, now they have to get down to business and plfigu this out. whatever advantage they think they are getting can quickly shift as americans look up and see both sides as being ridiculous on this because they can't get anything done. so the question for me at this point -- the president wanted to get involved. he calls chuck schumer leader of the democrats on friday. tries to get a deal. yet again the president is out of step with where his staff is. he can't seem to get it done.

does he try again. it's monday morning. is the president going to lead? he's the ultimate deal maker. >> but all accounts he doesn't understand the issues on the table well enough to make an impact. that's different between business and politics. >> that's right. >> in business, as long as you hold the money, as long as you have the land, as long as you have the development rights, you're relevant. here, once these guys and women sniff out you don't know what you're talking about, your currently drops. >> and confounded by the fact that the president keeps sending mixed signals in the matter of days, hours. does the instincts on d.r.e.a.m.ers attract his ca account. is the president getting rolled by the hard liners in his own administration when it comes to the details in policy? >> we know this. he said bill of love.

your words matter. when you say it, it has to matter. you have to start excusing, well, he said it but he doesn't really mean what he says. he's the president of the united states. hard liners don't want d.r.e.a.m.ers to become citizens. that's something that has to come out because it's the truth. >> and fascinating new things in polls. regardless of party, keeping the government open or protecting d.r.e.a.m.ers. the results when we get back. both sides are using this as ammunition. actually, that's super easy. my bad. but he hasoke up wwork to do.in. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. 40 million americans are waking up to a gillette shave.

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all right. what do you say about the state of dysfunction in washington? the overwhelming majority of americans polled want the d.r.e.a.m.ers protected. okay. but look at this number. this is the key. 56% say keep the government open and negotiate daca. see when it's an either/or they say keep the government open. that is going to be a key question for democrats. let's get into this. we have john avlon and david

gregory. all right, david. the democrats's inside scoop is this is their best point of leverage. if they hold up the government, this is where the republicans are post incentivized to do this. they are seizing on the senate majority leader saying i have the intention of doing this after we get through this. they say that's not strong enough. we don't trust him. all right. that leverage may be real on the inside, but how does it play on the outside to the voters? >> well, obviously not well. i think republicans have an upper hand in saying we're in charge. we want to keep the government open and the democrats are holding you hostage. there's a quote from schumer in the last shutdown saying you shouldn't do exactly what democrats are doing. they will argue it differently, but it plays into the majority's hand here. but the daca issue is strong enough. and it's not just the democratic base where it's very strong, but it is the public overall. by the way, it's the president

as well who wants to have the d.r.e.a.m.ers kept in the country. so he looks like someone who can't lead, can't control his own staff, who may not know the issues well enough, which then creates an opportunity to build on this meeting with schumer and try to get something done. i think these issues are close enough in terms of how the republicans view it that they push now to get this through rather than defer it. you heard luis gutierrez, from the chicago area, say if we have to pay money for this watch, which we don't believe in, maybe that's a price to pay to secure the d.r.e.a.m.ers deal. that may be the kind of opening that is needed. >> this poll, make no mistake, is a real caution for democrats. what they are selling to the majority of the american people

aren't buying. it seems to be they are siding with republicans. most folks say do both. deal with the d.r.e.a.m.ers but don't shut down the government. the main street pop limp, this frustration and division in washington. this is the ultimate symbol of that. democrats are playing a dangerous game, particularly when they are open to hypocrisy. republicans are making the points democrats are doing today. >> chuck schumer's words to jake tapper, well, the republicans are doing this. and here's the quote, unless i get my way, i'm going to shut down the government. how is that any different? >> he used immigration as an example. >> is exactly. >> is and said that would be like mad stkpwhrpbs david gregory, to john's point, if you dig into these poll numbers, it's across the board. you have 50% of young people who say avoid a shutdown over getting a daca solution now.

you have 51% of racial and ethnic minorities. you have 49% of women. then you look at the president's approval rating. yes, it's up but the lowest in modern history for this one-year point. is this a president who is saying i don't have a lot to lose, i guess. >> well, first of all, the party's position has improved after the tax cut bill, after the tax reform bill. you are seeing it in the generic head to head in terms of who you want to control congress. the white house looks at it and says, yeah, that's moving in our favor. this poll, and it indicates a priority for keeping the government open, moving in their favor. this argument they can use, there's the ugly arguments and the other arguments which is putting the government, the military head of those who are illegally in the country is obviously taking root as well. but in the end, i think you still have the opportunity for a deal here.

the question is how much stomach do democrats have to absorb the bad poll numbers. how much faith do they have in republicans to get to this issue of d.r.e.a.m.ers if they surrender on this. >> messaging. messaging. why are you shutting down the government? what are the specific issues that the republicans aren't giving? the democrats have to make the case. so do the republicans. gentlemen, thank you very much. now, we could not get anybody from the white house to come on this morning to make the pitch to you, to argue the points, to be tested. >> but tonight. >> tonight we're getting lucky. we have the man at the center of the shutdown, mick mulvaney. he is the one who operationally has to execute the shutdown. he is going to be on at 9:00 p.m. eastern. how does he make the case for what the white house is arguing for here? >> if you have ever seen chris do an interview, he's not leaving until he answers the questions. >> he can leave whenever he wants. >> this is painful for me. >> i know. >> super bowl lii is set.

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all eyes were on brady's throwing hand. he had to get all those stitches mid week. apparently nothing stops tom brady. two touchdown passes in the fourth quarter to danny amendola twice. great job getting both fetal inbounds. 24-20. braid and belichick on their way to a sixth super bowl together. and fans wearing dog masks to the game. vikings marched down the field. from there, it was all eagles. backup quarterback nick foles throwing three touchdowns in this one. eagles scored 38 unanswered. they will head to their first since 2005 when they lost to the patriots in that one. guys, they will, again, be embracing the underdog role. patriots are six-point favorites. >> not only have i not slept because i stayed up watching

that game. >> hold on a second. it's amazing how people don't know that poppy is pregnant. the vikings kept you up not that you are seven minutes away from giving birth. >> i'm due on the super bowl. so i couldn't go. so we are just waiting. >> the jets are waiting and hoping they give birth to a unicorn. >> amazing game. hats off. still love you, vikes. back to serious news. the government shutdown raising a lot of questions how it could impact the response to the already deadly flu season. you have 30 children who have already died because of this. the effectiveness of this year's vaccine is fueling concerns. elizabeth cohen joins us with more. there are concerns about how many people will have access to this with the shutdown, right? >> reporter: there's some concerns, poppy. actually, even during a

government shutdown, some urgent response can be done. and the cdc put out a press release, saying urge ept response, immediate response will continue. so that will continue. the flu is widespread. sit widespread some 49 states. everything exempt hawaii. more than 74,000 confirmed cases. at least 30 children dead. now, one of the problems is that the strain this year, h3n2 is virulent, good at infecting people. it replicates quickly. symptoms are particularly severe, which is one of the reasons, the big reason why we are seeing this this year. you can wash your hands frequently. i know we hear that all the time but it really makes a difference. and get the flu vaccine. it is is not too late and it will have some effect. not 100%, but it will have some effect. >> good, important advice. elizabeth cohen, my friend, thank you for that. dozens of women's marches in

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house intel committee chairman nunez has the spotlight on him. he has this memo that he and his staff drafted that supposedly shows widespread surveillance abuses by the intelligence community. i'm sure that your social media feeds have been overwhelmed with this hype. release the memo, release the memo. what's in it? the biggest question is why won't devon nunez release it to the fbi. joining us to discuss former director of national intelligence james clapper. good to have you. let's start with the what is the chance that this memo, in your opinion, can be accurate, that he has proof that you all when you were in there before and after that there were widespread abuses of surveillance to play to political gain for democrats? >> well, chris, it sounds a bit

hyp hyperbolic to me and conjures up memories of chairman nunez running around the white house compound and getting all kinds of secret information about alleged unmasking abuses. to my knowledge, there weren't any. so this is sort of the same thing. first, this was not bipartisan. i do find it strange, if he found these profound irregularities in both the bureau as well as the department of justice that he would not have shared that revelation immediately with the trump-appointed director of the fbi director wray as well as attorney general sessions. >> is there any good reason for withholding it? outwardly, it looks like he

doesn't trust the fbi, he is sewi sewi sewing distention. >> it might detract from the three at rings here. at least in the interest of fairness, it will allow the fbi to comment on it. i do wonder since it was written only by one side, the republicans, it was not bipartisan, i do wonder, well, how accurate and objective is it? >> why wouldn't they be able to release it? how does the law work? >> well, the -- if it's classified in its original form, then it is on the executive branch that can make classification determinations. >> so the white house could release it if they want? >> they could. that's right. >> well, why wouldn't they have already? it's one of the main themes of

president trump's existence is that the fbi and the whole justice and intelligence communities conspired against them. >> well, i don't know. i can only speculate, other than perhaps maybe the white house recognizes there is no there there or it's not accurate. it would seem to me if there truly were wrongdoing, widespread wrongdoing, the white house would want that out too. i think the bigger issue that bothers me about all of this is the amount of time devoted to attacking law enforcement, attacking the messengers which to me is a distraction from the russian interference and its implications. i wish chairman nunez would focus more on that. >> jared kushner does not have security clearance yet. he has changed his disclosures when it comes to -- well, let's just say he has changed his

disclosures. it goes to a range of issues. almost 40 times. how unusual, and can you think of another situation where somebody would still be in the position he's in if he didn't have a security clearance for this long? >> well, i can't think of a situation like that. if it were normal people, they wouldn't have access to classified information. >> how can he do his job without it? he's in charge with such significant and delicate matters like middle east peace. >> right. >> how can he do that without security clearance? >> he has a superman portfolio all the way from mid east peace, china, all the way to reorganizing the government. i don't think realistically he could. perform given the sensitivities of those portfolios. i don't know how he could do the job without full access to all

the information that is potentially available to him. >> this headline, what does it mean to you? 14 people are now getting the daily briefing provided the president. there's a little bit of hype around that as well. oh, this is what the cool kids do. they get the security briefing. does it bother you? what are the considerations? >> well, actually, that is not an unreasonable number. and that number will vary from time to time even within a single administration. so that is not out of sorts. and to be truthful, access to the president's daily brief is a status thing in this town. so i can understand people saying, skwraoerbgs it would be cool to have access to it. >> jim clapper, couldn't have a better guess to discuss these headlines this morning. thanks very much for being with us. two members of the house intelligence committee say potential money laundering in

real estate deals in the trump organization has raised a few eyebrows. >> there has been no collusion between the trump campaign and russians or trump and russians. no collusion. they all say there's no collusion. and there is no collusion. i can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. there is no collusion. they have no collusion. and nobody has found any collusion. >> all right. you have heard the word over and over again. despite the president's denials, it is the name of a new book. "conclusion." luke harding, author, is here. a former correspondent for "the guardian". use to run the moscow bureau there. has a lot of experience in operating in russia. what's fascinating in this book, and there is a lot, you say the russians, the russian government was looking at citizen trump back in the 1970s and in 1987 was a pivotal year.

that long ago? >> yeah. to understand this crazy story you have to go back to the cold war, communist times. and donald trump, this upwardly mobile guy who goes on all expenses paid trip to red moscow, wooed by the ambassador. doesn't come out with any hotel deals but then says he is ready for a presidential run and criticizing reagan. >> you see him then, they saw him, russia, at malleable. >> well, we know from leaked kgb memos, the kind of person they were looking for is vane, greedy, corruptible. and donald trump ticks every single box. >> you met with chris steele, the author of the dossier through fusion gps more than once. two questions for you on that.

do was funding the dossier. do you find him credible and what is the most significant thing you've learned from him that you can share? >> yes. i found it very credible. he is someone who spent 30 years during russia, 22 years in british intelligence, lived in the soviet union. and also the sources behind the dossier are sources that he used in other areas for other reports, which were well received, read by the state department and so on. he is bewildered by the attack on him. dethis and shared this material with the fbi in a sense of public duty. he is not a politician, not an activist. he is someone who wants the truth. and i think what's happened the last year with bob mueller, with the investigation, with the dilates cease to vindicate steele. >> he said, look, christopher steele went to the fbi because he was concerned about national security, no other reason. >> absolutely. when he embarks are looking at trump and russia, and what is the relationship between these

two, he didn't know who the client was. he just had the question. >> let's talk about the focus of money laundering. we heard jackie speier saying, look, this is at the heart of all of it. deutsche bank. you talk about the $300 million that then citizen trump borrowed from deutsche bank, the only bank that would lend to him. it still hasn't been repaid. democrats are saying republicans on these committees subpoena the deutsche bank records. and there has been a full-throated push back against doing that. how important is it to see the deutsche bank records. >> i think it's really important. two things going on. lending money out of new york to donald trump. but there is deutsche bank in moscow laundering money for shadowy vip clients. do these two tracks converge in some way? >> are getting a hold of them

the only way lawmakers and mueller's team can get a hold of those. is it the only way they will truly be able to follow the full money path here? >> no. there is a track record of 30 years of russian money going to trump property, into trump organization. he said he has no deals with russia but so much money has gone in the other direction. it will take a lot of time and effort. >> we appreciate it. it is a fascinating read. still on the "times" best seller list. congratulations. thank you for being here. and thank you to all of our international viewers. for you cnn talk is next. for our viewers in the u.s., stay right here. "new day" continues right now. >> we're going to get there. and if we don't tonight, i'm really worried. >> u.s. government shutdown now for a third day. >> the shutdown was a political miscalculation. gargantuan proportions. >> it all stems from the president and his in ability to

clinch a deal has created the government shutdown. >> you can't blame donald trump for the senate democrats shutting down the government. >> regardless of where the president is, let's pass legislation and then see what he does with it. >> it seems to me we are trying to use our children as a political pawn. >> everybody wants to fund the military. nobody wants our soldiers not to be paid. >> both sides do it. i think the american people see through it. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> all right. good morning. welcome to your "new day". alisyn is off. the one and only poppy harlow here. thank you very much. >> good to be here. >> two for the price of one. we are in day three of the federal government shutdown. in just hours, the senate will have a procedural vote on a plan to reopen the government and fund it for three weeks. we got trouble, my friends. there are deep divisions over the fate of d.r.e.a.m.ers, failing to produce any compromise or really any details. what are the sticking