so much disruption happening in the retail space. all right. thanks for joining us this morning. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" has one of the victims of the u.s. gymnastics/nassar. if they are trying to interview the president, that is very good news for the president because it means they are starting to wrap up. >> we're going to be fully cooperative with special counsel. >> the attorney general and james comey have been interviewed by the special counsel's office. >> it is not appropriate for the president of the united states to ask a federal official who they voted for. >> he doesn't understand the separation of powers. >> let's see how it all works out. >> the people hostile to the president have not been conducting themselves in a manner that be fits the federal bureau of investigation.

>> this is all part of trying to save this president's bacon by damaging the fbi and the department of justice. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> all right. it's wednesday. you know what that means. >> what? you're exhausted. >> not coffee. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is wednesday, january 24th. 6:00 here in new york. this is what we have on the starting line. significant developments in the russia investigation. first, sources telling cnn special counsel bob mueller wants to question president trump about his decisions to fire fbi director jim comey and national security adviser michael flynn. also, we're learning mueller's team has already interviewed comey, attorney general jeff sessions, and hope hicks, key presidential adviser. what does all of this reveal about the direction of mueller's investigation and a possible end game. the "washington post" reports that shortly after

firing fbi director comey, president trump, quote, pointedly asked acting fbi director, andrew mccabe, in an oval office building who he voted for. he said he did not vote but found the conversation disturbing. the white house says mr. trump has not fired the special counsel in part because of how the press would react. sarah sanders telling reporters the president is he well aware of the ramifications of any move against mueller despite calling the investigation a witch-hunt. so we have all of this covered for you. let's go first to kaitlan collins live at the white house. >> reporter: alisyn, a day of bombshells at the white house yesterday. cnn has learned that after months of interviews, special counsel robert mueller is now setting his sights on president donald trump himself and that negotiations are under way between mueller's team and the

president's lawyers after mueller expressed interest in sitting down with the the president. special counsel robert mueller expressing interest in questioning president trump about his decision to fire former fbi director james comey and former national security adviser michael flynn, according to sources. >> we're going to be fully cooperative with the special counsel, but we're also not going to comment on who may or may not or could be interviewed at any point. but we're going to continue to be fully cooperative with the process. >> reporter: the russia probe also closing in on the president's inner circle. a source close to jeff sessions tells cnn mueller questioned the attorney general for hours last wednesday. sessions is the first cabinet secretary to be interviewed by the special counsel. president trump telling reporters he hasn't talked to jeff sessions about the conversation. >> i didn't, but i'm not at all concerned. >> reporter: topics possibly

included russia's meddled in the 2016 election. last year the president said this about his decision. >> regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. and, in fact, when i decided to just do it i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. >> reporter: cnn learned mueller already interviewed comey last year. the "new york times" reports that the former fbi director was questioned about memos he wrote about his interactions with the president. last may, comey testified that mr. trump asked for his loyalty and told him he hoepld he could let the investigation into flynn two. >> i didn't say that. i will tell you, i didn't say that. >> would you be willing to speak is under oath to give your version of -- >> 100%. >> reporter: resurfacing amid a new washington post that shortly after firing comey, the president asked comey's

replacement, andrew mccabe, who he voted for in the 2016 election. mr. trump reportedly also expressed his anger at mccabe over hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations his wife received from a political action committee run by a close friend of hillary clinton. since then, the president has repeatedly gone after mccabe. and sessions encouraged the new fbi director, christopher wray to, to replace him. threatening to quit if he moved or was reassigned. >> he's going to do a good job. >> reporter: russia's meddling case progressing. rick gates has quietly hired a prominent white collar attorney, signaling gates may be negotiating with mueller in the face of eight charges of money laundering and failing to register foreign lobbying in other businesses. despite these developments, the white house continuing to assist that mueller's probe is a

witch-hunt, but trump hasn't fired mueller due to potential backlash in the press. >> i think we all know what everyone in this room would do that if the president did that, and i don't think that's helpful to the process. >> reporter: alisyn, a day of of intense drama here at the white house. the president is continuing to target the probe and the fbi, attacking the bureau on twitter over some missing text messages between two former members of mueller's team. all of this comes as the president is prepared to depart the white house later tonight to attend the world economic forum in davos, switzerland. >> remember in the old days when we used to have a slow newsday. we haven't had that for two years. look at all the developments that happened yesterday. some of these are big ones. obviously knowing that robert mueller is preparing to interview the president and the president's team is preparing for that. that's reaching the rubicon.

>> look, it had to happen. no way special counsel can look at these questions and not talk to the president directly and remember what the reason for that is. the president has been his own problem. there probably would be no special counsel if donald trump hadn't fired jim comey. his action witness stand mccabe. his actions with sessions. these are the types of things that sniff of obstruction of justice and require probing. the second problem you're going to have here is political prosecution of opponents. this fisa memo that -- release it but they're not releasing it. >> all sorts of intrigue around it. >> they won't show it to the fbi. that is a prosecutorial measure. if you say they are hiding texts but you can't prove it. if you say they are asking for visa fisa warrants but can't prove it, it undermines the department of justice. then what do you have? >> we're going to get into all

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major developments in the russia investigation. let's take special counsel bob mueller's probe to a critical point now by looking at one of these big developments, okay. all of this happened in one day. what does that mean?

it means it happened in one day. we don't know what the significance of that is, but it was an unusual amount of volume, that's put it that way. the big one is we now know mueller will question president trump. the question is when. what is not a question is why. the focus will supposedly be why he fired national security adviser michael flynn and fbi director jim comey. joining us now cnn political analyst john avlon and cnn legal analyst michael zeleden. sit with no small measure of irony, the reason there is a special counsel is because of the actions of the president. especially his firing of jim comey. so i assume you're not surprised by this. but what is of interest to you in this potential interview? >> so what's of interest to me most, chris, is the narrow scope

of it as reported by "washington post" and confirmed by cnn that he is interested at this stage of speaking to the president about the firing of flynn and the firing of comey. because we've been talking for several months about a broader collusion conspiracy inquiry as well as potential crime of money laundering. so unless mueller by fur indicates his interviews, it is narrowly positioned as it is. maybe we're wrong and there was no financial crimes inquiry and this is all about collusion and obstruction. >> interesting. >> okay. it does feel like we are reaching the rubicon in some way. people like michael zeldin said they wait for the top of the food chain, the big fish at the

end. what does it mean that rick gates, the top trump campaign aide, has hired a new lawyer? >> that's significant to the extent that if gates is cooperating with the mueller investigation, that's another inside man. doesn't get closer to manafort than gates. they worked together in the campaign side by side. any information gates is giving really shows they're going to have deep insight into manafort and trump. and presumably collusion. but i think the macro point we have to keep our eye on is the big fish is on the line. it has all been building to this. whether or not this inquiry is focused solely on obstruction, the president of the united states is going to sit down with a special prosecutor. the question is where, when, and how. will some of it be written, in person. already trump campaign aides and other allies are saying this is a death trap. it's an invitation to perjury

for a person like president trump. but this is a significant moment in the history of any presidency, let alone this investigation. >> so, counselor, what do you make of him adding a lawyer to his team and that lawyer meeting with mueller? once they cross the rubicon, then you have an all-out battle on your hands. is there any signal of that to you? >> well, it seems to me, and i have thought this, chris, since the end of last year when i was looking at what to expect in 2018 that gates would cooperate or plead guilty and cooperate. a terrific lawyer here in washington who will fight the fight or work out a very good deal. he was one of the lawyers on my inspect counsel investigation. he is a first rate guy. so if it is they are trying to work out a plea deal with gates and also a testimony deal, then, one, that's not good for

manafort but, two, it may not be good for the president. because, remember, gates stayed on with the president's team and transition after manafort was fired. he has a much longer tenure with the president. if there was talks about collusion and wikileaks, gates may be privy to that. >> okay. we have many more questions for you guys. stick around, please. >> did president trump go too far when he asked andrew mccabe whom he voted for shortly after firing jim comey? we discuss next. heritage and innovation have made gillette the #1 shave in america. now get gillette quality at lower prices -- every day. brought to you by 1200 workers in boston -- we're proud of giving you our best. gillette. the best a man can get.

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election. he told president trump he did not vote but found that conversation disturbing. it happened shortly after he fired james comey. michael, is that out of bounds? is it illegal to ask the acting fbi director who he voted for? >> i don't know if it's illegal, but it certainly is inappropriate and follows a pattern of behavior by the white house in respect of its conversations with the fbi. whether it's the loyalty oath, the meeting in the oval office, the first responders meeting. all of those types of communications between the white house and the fbi director, and this time mccabe is acting fbi director, seems to be inappropriate in respect of the white house, keeping its distance from the fbi making sure they act independently of any political pressure. this is what, to chris's point in the setup, this is what has been the problem with the

president all along and is what has created, if you will, this obstruction of justice investigation for him. he keeps making mistakes along these lines which is further evidence for mueller to look at whether or not he has the intent to interfere with this investigation. what do you think about the political pushback from the other side on this? whether it's the fisa memo, release it, don't release it and all the hype around that. the missing texts from lisa page. and this overall narrative that the fbi is dirty. the president can every once in a while take that back. but shah said it is toxic in its senior leadership. >> what is toxic is the environment that's been created by the president in politicizing and demonizing law enforcement. >> not just him, though. he has lots of help.

>> that's true. but it comes from the top. they have law enforcement's back. so it is absolutely extraordinary to see that narrative and that loyalty get shift odd a dime in defense of a president who is seeking to protect himself from law enforcement inquiries. the fact that conservatives on the hill and talking heads on tv are going after and questioning not just the integrity of the in this case and law enforcement but really comparing him to the kgb is utter reversal of their longstanding belief and shows the corrupting influence on the trump administration. it is a character test and almost all are failing. >> yesterday in the press room, sarah sanders was asked, you know, if the president thinks this is a witch-hunt, why doesn't he just fire bob mueller? why doesn't he just get it over with, put everybody out of their misery.

it's interesting how she explained it. listen to this. >> why doesn't the president just get rid of bob mueller, just fire him. they said it's wasting tax payer money. in that regard why doesn't he just end the investigation because it is wasting the tax payers's money. >> we want to see this come to a complete and full conclusion. i think we all know what everybody in this room would do if the president did that. i don't think that's helpful to the process. >> what did you think of that, michael? the reporters hearing a cry from journalists. >> it's naive maybe at best. the reality is, and we can ask john dean how well it worked out for nixon when he fired cox. >> right. >> it was not the end of the investigation when you get rid of a lead investigator. a second one comes on and the investigation continues with a new aspect to it, which is why

was the first guy fired. so is it's just silly talk on her part to say that the press is what's driving the decision not to fire mueller. what has to drive the decision not to fire mueller is an obstruction of justice inquiry by special counsel's office. >> he yeah. that's true. but she also told the truth for a second in that the press is playing a constraining role in holding the president account knowledge from some of his worst impulses. we do play a role not process. but if that's the only thing holding back the dam, then members of congress who will pass a law to constrain trump's ability to fire mueller should giddyap on that as well. if it's just good good faith, let's assume there is not a large reservoir of that. >> any time you can sneak in a reference to giddyap is a good day. thank you. left versus right bleeds into everything. look at the immigration

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negotiations on immigration have a very short window, and they're not off to a good start. why? well, senator chuck schumer started first saying this offer to fund the wall is off the table. the president fired back with this tweet. crying chuck schumer. fully understands, especially after his humiliating defeat that if there is no wall there is no daca. we must have safety and security, together with a strong military, for our great people. here to unpack all of this, john avlon and cnn political commentator errol lewis. is this a typical beginning of negotiations, or are we off to a bad start? >> i think we're off to a bad start.

it's hard to imagine why this would be better than many of the attempts the last decade on many of these issues. daca itself is a work-around. it is an attempt to make some unintended consequences of our immigration policy rational, humane and fair. the childishness, the tweets, it is hard to imagine that they're going to get this done by february. >> i'm confused. is it shutdown schumer or crying chuck? >> i think you have to pick one nickname and stick with it. >> russian bots. >> why did chuck schumer offer to pay for the wall? that was the confusing part? some other negotiation. it makes more sense that he is back to his original position, isn't it? >> it was trying to get something done to shut down the shutdown. errol is using words i don't

understand like rational and humane. schumer will withdraw that offer in the context of the start of negotiations. let's not be too cute or histrionic about this. there is a three-week window on this. it is going to require broad outlines of a deal that look like what was brought to the table three weeks ago before it was brought down by the president. if anything happens at all. it will be border security, including building a wall in portions. it will be a daca deal that probably at least gives legal status to the d.r.e.a.m.ers, if not full citizenship. >> you're talking about the pillars. the white house said that deal is dead. it is the matter of degree. >> going after steven miller is bad blood. >> that deal means more to the democrats than it does to the republicans. how do we know that? because he offered the wall. and that is a big give because it's a silly give.

they're not getting anything back for it. if you have ever read chester l.karis, if somebody offers something once, they will offer it again. we know this bill of love stuff from the president is just talk. how do we know? listen to what mick mulvaney, the budget director, said on this show. >> just say what his position is on it. how do they get to stay? who gets to stay? >> again, depends on what we get in exchange. what do we get for border security? what do we get for wall? >> love has no strings attached. >> are we going corinthians here? >> only at weddings do you hear that. >> it turns out love is a pretty goodbar beganing chip. they like the idea because it is popular. 90 something percent of the public wants to see some kind of decent resolution for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. well, fine. he wants to then trade it for

the wall or something else. or for changing legal migration and other things. >> shouldn't get any credit for having compassion to the d.r.e.a.m.ers because he doesn't. if you cared, you would help them, period and then work on the flawed system. >> it is is hard to see how far they might be able to go. gutierrez says build the wall. just save our d.r.e.a.m.ers. building a wall amounts to a couple billions a year for ten years to enact a policy that many democrats feel is never going to work anyway, it might be -- >> big win for trumpville, for the campaign. if he said he got the wall, it's a big deal. >> again, at some point you have to start governing and think about the national interest. if any deal gets done, elements on both sides will be angry. that's how you know a real deal got down.

>> thank you stkpwhraofplt all rig right. it is important to track why our heads are shaking so much. tonight on primetime we will dig into the topics, try to get people close to the president to understand where his head is and where we go next. sometimes heads shake after that. >> mine just lulls back and forth and i go to sleep. police in kentucky are trying to determine why a teenager oeptd fire a at a high school, killing two classmates and wounding more than a dozen others. the latest details in a live report for you. olympic downhill skier... ...you can't let spills slow you down. that's why i use bounty, the quicker picker upper. bounty picks up spills quicker... ...and is two times more absorbent. bounty, the quicker picker upper.

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a suicide attack at the save the children compound in jalalabad takes two lives, injures 20 others. authorities believe one of the attackers is still fighting police and security forces inside the building. save the children does humanitarian work, obviously,

and advocates for youth worldwide. this incident comes just days after taliban gunmen stormed the intercontinental hotel in kabul, leaving at least 22 people dead. a u.s.-led coalition says 150 isis terrorists were killed saturday in a targeted air strike overseer ya. a spokesman for the coalition tells cnn that a week's worth of intelligence helped isolate an isis headquarters and command and control center. u.s. navy f-18 jets and drones were used in the attack. they believe the terrorists may have been gathering for an operation. an investigation under way into why police say a 15-year-old student opened fire inside a kentucky high school, took two lives, and injured 18 more. cnn's nick valencia is live in benton, kentucky with the latest developments. nick? >> reporter: good morning, chris. yesterday gunshots rang out at this high school, and we're still trying to figure out why,

what the motive is. why a 15-year-old, someone not even old enough to drive a car, would do something like this. of very somber from state and local troopers. a state trooper said the 15-year-old girl who died at the scene he thought was his own daughter. we know that there were 20 people affected by this shooting. 16 gunshot victims. five of them still battling for their lives in critical condition. we are learning the identities of the two killed. one died at the scene, bailey holt, just 15 years old. and preston cope, another 15-year-old, said to have died at a nearby hospital. i mentioned the somber mood of this press conference. people wondering how something like this can-can happen here. it's a community they don't worry about leaving their keys in the car when it's running, let alone something like this happening. one of the outstanding questions we have this morning is whether or not this 15-year-old male student who is alleged to have

committed this mass shooting, will be charged as adult or juvenile. they are still consulting about that. hopefully we get more clarification on that later this morning. alisyn. >> nick, just horribly tragic. thank you for updating on that. a happier story. tammy duckworth will be the first sitting senator in history to give birth. she is one of only ten women who has given birth while serving in congress. she is due in april, a few weeks after she turns 50. this will be her second child and another girl. chris, as you know, i love a good fertility story. and she has talked openly about how she went through multiple rounds of ivf and got fertility treatments. and here you go. >> well, good for her. we hope the baby is healthy and an easy pregnancy because she has a lot of work to do in the meantime. this is going to be very

impressive. so lebron james is in the news joining an exclusive club. he became the youngest nba player ever to reach 30,000 points. andy scholes has more in this morning's "bleacher report". it's a big deal, even for the king. >> yeah. quite impressive to do it this early in his career. "bleacher report" brought to you by the 2018 ford f-150. the cavs were in san antonio last night. lebron reaching the milestone with this jumper right here at the end of the first corner. despite a special night for lebron, the cavs losing again, 114-102. their 10th loss in the past 13 games. now, before this game started in a rather odd instagram post, lebron congratulated himself before reaching the 30,000 point mark. he was speaking to the high school version of himself in the post. let's just say social media had a field day with that.

new england patriots will be the home team taking on the eagles in super bowl lii. the team opting for road white jerseys. you're thinking why does this matter? the team wearing white has won 12 of the last 13 super bowls. alisyn, tom brady is a perfect 3-0 when wearing white. if you're superstitious and you're a patriots fan, this is good news. >> i knew outfits mattered. that's how i decide who is going to win a horse race. you're confirming that this actually does matter, andy. thank you. so republicans demanding release of this classified memo we have been talking about that alleges fbi surveillance abuses. if that happens, is this a dangerous precedent? what's in that memo anyway? we look into that next.

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all right. there is no question there is a republican-led push to release a memo spearheaded by republicans in the house intelligence committee. the chair there, nunez, had his staff put together a memo that alleges fbi abuses of surveillance laws. sources say president trump is inclined to allow the memo to be made public, but democrats are against the move. that shouldn't matter if the president wants to declassify. there are plenty other weiss to get it in the record. you have the memo. you have the missing texts, and you have the overall assertion that the fbi is dirty at its highest levels by the president of the united states. no matter how much he wants to back off when convenient, that's what he keeps saying. he had raj shah put out exactly that statement just the other

day. so let's discuss this. first, in terms of the legalities of this, counselor, am i right, if they wanted to declassify this, the executive branch, the president, is has ultimate power of classifying and declassifying. and congress members have immunity for any speech or debate on the floor of congress so they can go on there and read the memo and put whatever they want into the congressional record. carr carrie, that's you. >> sure. got it. certainly the president is the ultimate classification authority. he has the authority to declassify information. >> let's be clear, chris, this is not the way that intelligence oversight is normally conducted. there are times when members of the intelligence committees, whether in the house or senate, don't like what they are seeing, have concerns about what information they are receiving or being briefed on from the intelligence community.

there is then a process that they go through where they would let the department of justice usually and the intelligence community, that means the director of national intelligence or the agency where the information originates, know what they want declassified. then there is a process that is gone through. and ultimately that could go up to the president, although that's very unusual and usually not necessary. >> right. i totally hear you. i say in this environment they keep saying the i.c. is dirty. they won't even show the fbi the memo, still let them assess what's in it and see what action is necessary. jimmy, you are a affair broker on the fbi. people should know that. you were there. you're an alumnist. but you are hard line in terms of law and order. you think as special prosecutor is needed to see what was done with respect to these political investigations. but not showing the fbi the memo, what does that mean to you? why does this memo about fisa

practices matter, and what about the move not even showing it to the doj? >> it is perplexing, befuddling. let's look at what devon nunez and the members of the committee are looking at. go back to april 2016 when fusion gps was hired by hillary clinton campaign. yes, it was started by the washington free beacon on the conservative side. but that's when the democratic national committee took it over. fast forward to june 27th. july 2nd, hillary clinton is interviewed by the fbi. july 5th, director comey comes out and does something unprecedented in the annals of the fbi. >> unusual for fbi because they do the investigating, not the decision to prosecute. >> extremely unusual. now with the struck page that we do have, if you line them up

with that chronology, it is troubling. the insurance policy was talked about in andy mccabe's office. he's a good man. when you read these up, the secret society, we can't let this happen. we have to move to what we talked about in andy's office, those things are troubling. when you look at the five months worth of missing texts, we have from december, the trump transition team. he's elected in november. all the way to may. five months. that is a particular period of time where the russian collusion investigation, which it started out as counterintelligence investigation, is heating up. walks like a duck, talks like a duck. >> that is not the standard. first of all, hillary clinton and her people made the same exact argument. they were putting together the same kind of timelines. and you need proof. even ron johnson, republican senator, certainly not looking to give a pass to anybody on the left certainly named clinton. he said there is no proof to

back up these suggestions. >> i agree. if you read the text messages, we're doing it in a vacuum. we're not seeing context. until you put them in front of congress to testify under oath, we'll never know. but when you look at loretta lynch knowing before hand after saying she knew nothing about this, it is so damning, chris, i think there is enough smoke that we need a set of independent eyes. >> you're right. someone is going to have to assess it at some point. you have to look at what lynch knew. i appreciate the candor. thanks to both of you. alisyn. >> now to this story we have been following. ncaa is investigating michigan state university for its role in the larry nassar sex abuse

scand scandal. his sentencing hearing resumes in two and a half hours. three more victims will read impact statements. then the former doctor is expected to be sentenced for sexually assaulting more than 100 girls in his care. we want to go live to lansing and bring in jean cassar else. >> reporter: alisyn, 163 victim impact statements have been read in court. we believe one of the final young women this morning will be the victim who was the very first to come forward to the indy star in 2016 saying she was assaulted by larry nassar and that allowed so many other young women to come forward saying me too. >> i am not weak. and i will not accept the feelings of embarrass. or shame. i'm leaving those here with him. >> the victims of gymnastic doctor larry nassar coming forward. many confronting their abuser directly, including 18-year-old

emily morales. >> i wanted you to look at me. i believe in forgiveness, larry. you and i are human beings. we make mistakes. although you have hurt me, i want to forgive you and feel closure and move on to healing in my life. i want you to apologize to me right here. i want to forgive you but i want to hear you say you regret all the hurt you've caused. >> new brother breanne randall traveled from seattle to tell her story of being ignored by authorities after she reported nassar's abuse 2004. >> do i look familiar to you? do you recognize my name? the police questioned you and you had the audacity to tell them i had misunderstood this

treatment because i was not comfortable with my body. how dare you. sadly, they took your word instead of mine. i am here today to tell you i wasn't afraid of you then and i'm sure as hell not a tpraeutd of you now. >> randall's travel expenses were paid for by the same police department that dismissed her claims over 10 years ago. the ncaa now investigating michigan state university where nassar was employed for nearly two decades. >> by standing by and sweeping it under the rug, you are just as disgusting. if it had been your own daughters, would you still have remained silent to msu, usga in creating this environment in which this monster had uninterrupted, unprecedented access to hundreds of victims.

you should have prevented this. >> msu faculty held an emergency meeting yesterday on the question whether there should be a vote of no confidence taken on msu's precedent. today, all 2,200 faculty members will be sent an e-mail to weigh in on whether the vote of no confidence should take place. alisyn. >> i do want to get into that with our next tkpweftd. thank you very much. a former michigan state gymnast and one of the women who gave a victim's impact statement in court. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> okay. you said something very interesting. let me play a portion for our viewers. >> the disturbing truth is you could have been stopped back in 1997. i and cathy silence said me. you took away my confidence, you took away my innocence, and you took away my voice.

but today is a "new day". today i am claiming my freedom from you. >> what you're talking about is you were, as far as we know, the first person to come forward and tell somebody about what nassar was doing in 1997. and the cathy that you speak of was the msu gymnastics coach. what did she say to you when you came forward? what did she do? >> she said that i must be misunderstanding medical technique that she had been friends with nassar years and year and he would never do anything inappropriate. she led me through basically an interrogation and had other gymnasts come into the room and ask them in front of me if they had ever been uncomfortable with nassar's treatments. and all of them but one other girl said no.

so there were two of us that said that he was -- what he was doing to us. and that it made us feel uncomfortable. she, instead of on notifying authorities or even my parents, she sat there and told me, well, i can file this but there is going to be very serious consequences for both you and dr. nassar if i do this. >> oh, my gosh. now, when you see what's happening in court, when you listen to these other roughly 150 young women, girls, who have come after you, what goes through your head? >> it didn't have to be this way. he could have been stopped back then. they could have all been spared from this pain. it is heartbreaking, maddening, frustrating. there's not enough words to describe how it makes me feel

knowing it would have been prevented. >> you asked the nsu president, luann simon, to attend the sentencing hearing to see with her own eyes what was happening there and see these survivor stories. what did she tell you? >> she said she didn't have time in her schedule to come and watch me. and i just asked for me personally. she said she didn't have time. why don't we make a compromise. i'll watch the live stream. >> should she keep her job? >> at this point, i don't think so. she has not shown leadership in this prolific -- this is the most prolific sex abuse scandal i think ever in our history. instead of being there and showing she's compassionate and cares -- i mean, she should be listening t