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on this episode of "death row stories," a triple murder execution style. >> they shot them like they were nothing. >> and the crime is caught on tape. >> most significant piece of evidence i've ever seen in a case. >> but clear images of guilt. >> it establishes that he committed the crime. >> there is your guy, slam dunk for the prosecution. >> only deepen the mystery. >> you're going to kill somebody. it's not even a sure conviction. >> what they didn't have is they didn't have physical evidence. >> there is no doubt in my mind that he's innocent. >> there's a body on the water. >> he was butchered and murdered. >> many people proclaim their innocence. >> in this case there are a number of things that stink. >> this man is remorseless. >> needs to pay for it with his life.
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>> the electric chair flashed in front of my eyes. >> get a conviction at all costs. let the truth fall where it may. on a sunday morning in the summer of 1994, a palm beach police officericed smoke curling across the sky near belle glade, florida. as the officer drew closer, he noticed a car engulfed in flames by the side of the road. >> a lot of isolated land out near the everglades. the car was found burning, no one in it. >> the black mercedes had a pungent odor of gasoline but no signs of being in an accident. >> once the fire was under control and various forensic people began to look for evidence to see if we could
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identify who it belong to, from there that's how the case got started. >> police discovered the car belonged to kashmir sucharski of miramar florida, better known to locals as butch casey, the former owner of the popular nightclub casey's nickelodeon. he attracted hard-partying locals with bikini contests, ladies' nights and hours until dawn. >> butch was a charming womanizer. girls loved him. butch casey lives in the miramar city limits, so the miramar police department, once they were notified that his car was found, they sought to locate him. a quick knock on the door. no response, no answer. >> the miramar policeman left his card in the door, unaware of the gruesome scene that lay just inside.
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the same sunday that butch casey's charred mercedes was found in the everglades police were notified by the families of two aspiring models. sharon anderson and marie rogers, that both women were missing. >> so i remember it was june 26th. it was a sunday. my mom called, said she hadn't spoken to sharon. and i thought, well, she's 25. she liked to go out and have a good time. but i could hear in my mother's voice that something was not right. >> police discovered the two women had been at casey's nickelodeon the previous night. >> they were there up until around closing time. casey, being a ladies' man, flirted with them and invited them to come to his home. >> by late sunday, with no sign of casey, anderson or rogers,
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police returned to casey's home. >> this time the officer actually walked around the entire perimeter of the house, worked his way into the back yard, looked through a sliding glass door. he could see the bodies. >> inside the home butch casey, sharon anderson and marie rogers had all been shot in the head at point-blank range. detective craig scarlett was one of the first officers at the scene. >> when i saw it, it was, you know, it was pretty hard to look at. it wasn't some random i'll shoot you here and i'll shoot you there. they were all laid out in a row. certainly a gruesome scene. bloody. killedxecution sty. the home itself was ransacked. d so items missing. welry. buh casey was licensed to
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carry a gun. u could see that thagun was missing. >> they had cordoned off a giant area of the property. police officers, police cars. chief was on his way. i believe there was already news there. >> around 2:30 this morning casimir sucharski was found murdered in his miramar home along with two other people. >> all three here at sucharski's miramar home the morning of june 26th, all shot execution style. >> my mom called, and she was very weird on the phone. and i thought, i'm really trying to keep it together. i said, is she dead? i just need to know, is she dead? she said yes. >> to homicide detectives, the murders appeared to be a robbery gone wrong.
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police found bullet casings and a bloody footprint near the bodies but little else to go on. >> sometimes butch casey was known to carry a lot of money as well as he was thought to maybe have access to drugs. but the primary thought, since the house was ransacked, that someone was looking for something. >> as police investigated, curious neighbors gathered otside >> some of the citizens were coming up to me and talking to me, telling me stuff. >> one neighbor named gary foy, said he had seen something suspicious the morning of the murders. >> gary foy told me he saw these two guys in butch's mercedes convertible. >> he thought it was odd that two young men would be driving casey's car. >> they took off towards hollywood boulevard. gary foy followed them and
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looked at them. he said one of them looked latin. the other guy he said i really couldn't see but he wasn't latin. i'm thinking this guy is gold now. he's actually saw them. >> police were convinced, if they found the men who drove that car, they had their killers. as investigators continued to comb through butch casey's house they discovered a cache of videotapes hidden in the bedroom. they appeared to be sex tapes filmed from a secret camera mounted above casey's bed. an officer then noticed a souvenir film slate on a high shelf in the living room. >> you look behind it and it was a camera. we discovered that it was attached to a vcr. >> i was outside. they were like, come here. you've got to see this. and took the tape.
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popped it to the tv. and it starts up. antheris butch casey walking around the night before, getting ready to go to work. we start fast-forwarding it. he goes out the door. then the sun comes up. room gets bright. then he begins to walk in with the girls. we're going to go, we're going to watch this crime unfold on video. and it did. right in front of us.
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detectives on the scene of a brutal triple murder in miramar, florida, had made a stunning discovery. a hidden surveillance camera had videotaped the entire crime. >> it was really amazing because back in 1994 not many people were hooking their houses up with all kinds of video. on the video the girls are sitting at the kitchen table. they grabbed a bottle of wine or champagne. they're sitting there and talking. >> lo and behold, after a substantial amount of time, in walks the murderers. >> two men enter casey's house from the back, one brandishing a
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large semi-automatic weapon. >> it appears to be a tec-9 machine gun. butch looks stunned for a moment it looks like. he knows he's got a gun in the other room. one of the girls runs into the bedroom, miss anderson tried to get away, go to another room. the second intruder then immediately chased her. the intruder with the gun came in, took the butt end of his gun and just struck butch casey. >> then they just started beating on them, with the gun across the face. whack! >> the other intruder who had chased miss anderson secured her. you can see that he came out of the bedroom with a gun that he didn't have before which turns out to be butch casey's gun. laid her down on the floor. >> minutes pass.
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the criminals appear to be searching for something as casey and the two women huddle on the floor. >> at one point butch casey seized a moment when he thought he could overcome the intruder wihe gun. so he grabbed the gun and began he truggle. >> not in the best position to put up a fight. and eventually the suspect shot him in the back to make him let go. and he did. finally, came time to leave. i guess they didn't get what they wanted. now that butch was shot, they just lined them all up. >> the second intruder uses the tec-9 to finish the job. >> then the other guy comes in, puts it right to the back of the head, boom. moves to the one next to him.
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boom. >> as the men prepare to leave, one of them makes a fateful mistake. >> one perpetrator removed a cover from what appeared to be a towel or a shirt of some sort from over his head. we got a fairly and particularly clear picture of his face. the other intruder continued at all times to wear a baseball cap and sunglasses. >> from start to finish the crime lasted 22 minutes. >> as gruesome as was, the video was probably the most significant piece of evidence i've ever seen in a case. >> the shocking news of her sister's murder sent deborah
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bowie, who was nine months pregnant, into labor. >> it forced my delivery. best moment of my life completely robbed of the experience, to have a baby three days after being told your sister was murdered. so the day that i came out of the hospital was the day of her funeral. >> the first thing that the police did with the video was to see if it could be enhanced in some way where you could get a clearer view of the perpetrators. they utilized the fbi to find the best images of the face, put it on a still photo, and they put it on flyers, just and passed it around to different law enforcement agencies. >> but there was little movement in the case until two weeks later.
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>> there was a home invasion robbery in dade county. three men come in, tie the pe up, ask them fodrugs, money,ame pe of m. very violent. >> this time one of the victims managed to call police, who arrived at the crime still in progress. >> the police corral the place and grab the three of them. >> the three men were alberto rincon, 24, alex hernandez, 20 and pablo ibar, 22. >> dade county police looked at the flyers, looked at their three suspects and go, hey, pablo ibar and alex hernandez, these are the two guys. >> metro dade called us up and said i have somebody you should at least come look at. that was pablo ibar. i'm thinking, this is great. this is the guy. >> gary foy, butch casey's neighbor, came in and positively i.d.'d ibar as the man he saw driving the mercedes the morning of the murder. >> he doesn't pick alex
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hernandez as the passenger. he said he looks similar. but he picks ibar. he says, i'm sure that was the driver. >> ibar seemed a good match for the mustached killer and police soon got a second i.d. from ibar's roommate, john klimezkco. >> were you sure right away that was pablo on the tape? >> yeah. >> klimezkco also claimed to recognize the other man on the video as someone named pentlover. police determined that klimezkco was referring to 21-year-old seth penalver of ft. lauderdale. penalver and ibar travelled in the same circle of friends. on the morning of the murders, klimezkco said the two grabbed a tec-9 gun from the hse and later returned driving a new black car. to get a second i.d. on seth penalver, detectives went to an ex-girlfriend, melissa monroe. >> they tell her they're there about seth. eventually they take her back to
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the police station, they show her the two same pictures, and they're saying to her, who is this? >> the left photograph is pablo ibar and the right photograph is seth. >> melissa monroe had also seen seth and pablo together at casey's bar on the night of the murders. >> i saw them at casey's on the sunday, on -- well, saturday night, sunday morning. i talked to them when i was on the dance floor. seth kept asking me to dance. >> we had all of these witnesses that corroborated and connected seth penalver and pablo ibar to mr. butch casey, the tec-9 gun, and his car. >> seth penalver, a high school dropout with a previous robbery to his name, soon learned he was wanted for murder.
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>> i actually seen all this stuff in the newspaper, they want to question me about a triple murder. they had a description of my car in there, and if you know his whereabouts, please contact us. >> seth decided to turn himself in. >> because i didn't commit this crime. i mean, what person in their right mind is going to turn theirself in knowing that he d a triple murder. >> seth aimed innocence. but when dectives asked him where he was on the night of the murders, he couldn't be sure. 30 days later they want to speak to me. why would you remember where you're at 30 days ago. you have no reason to remember it. >> police latch onto it. matches the build of the killer, they think. they realize seth has a history and he's violent. and then the game is on for the police. >> seth was about to realize he looked very similar to the killer on the video. and soon he would be facing the death penalty. whatever you're doing to stay healthy... there's something you may be missing. a key part of your wellness that you may be... overlooking.
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in august 1994 authorities announced they would seek the death penalty against pablo ibar and seth penalver for triple murder. veteran death penalty defense attorneys hilliard moldof and pat rastatter were appointed to represent penalver. >> the general consensus was theris a triple homide on video. there is your guy.
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this case is closed. we're going through the motions. >> you're left with, well, the video looks like seth. it was an uphill battle the whole way. >> ibar and penalver were tried together beginning on june 29, 1997. prosecutors played the entire 22-minute video for the jury. >> when they finally play the video for the first time, it may as well be watching the nuclear bomb go off in hiroshima. your guts are wrenching. the courtroom was silent. there is people crying by the end of that video. >> prosecutors also produced a set of tire tracks found near butch casey's burned out mercedes. the tracks were left by a getaway car, which the state said matched seth penalver's oldsmobile.
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>> it was damning evidence. and it was evidence that, on top of everything else, probably hurt us. >> finally the prosecutors called their witnesses against seth, including kim sand, one of his former roommates. >> she and seth lived together in a house in sunrise, florida. she said seth came to the house with pablo ibar, a black mercedes. came in, had blood all over his clothes. he and pablo took their clothes off, washed them in the washing machine. red bubbles had come out of the washing machine. she said she saw him with ibar changing clothes, taking a shower and driving off in the mercedes. >> kim saying i came home and seen bloody bubbles flying out of the washing machine. but the crime scene technicians went to the house and lifted the washing machine and luminol tested it for any type of dna. they came and testified in the trial and said, if the story was true, what she said, it would have been there.
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i would have found it. >> after months of testimony, the case went to the jury. but after three days of deliberations, the jury was dead-locked. >> what they didn't have is they didn't have any physical evidence. they didn't have any dna, fingerprints. they didn't have anything juries want. >> witness stories had also changed since the murders. for instance. ibar's former roommate john klimezkco now said he didn't remember identifying ibar, and melissa monroe said police had pressured her into i.d.'ing seth and pablo. >> they asked me do the pictures resemble anybody that i know. i told them no. they proceeded to keep badgering me and they said, listen, we're just going to tell you we know these are pictures of seth and pablo. we want to know which one would be which one. i was young.
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i was scared. i had no clue of who was in the picture, you know. >> i was dealing with a situation in which my witnesses are changing their testimony. clearly the motive there was protection. i'm going to convict your friend. >> with the jury unable to break their dead-lock, a mistrial was declared for both men. a second trial lasted seven months with the same witness testimony and the same damaging video, but this time pablo and seth were tried separately. finally, on november 11th, 1999, the second jury reached a verdict. >> when it came back and said guilty, i just stood there. i couldn't believe it. you know, after all that fighting, after all that time to come to that -- to come to that conclusion was earth-shattering.
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>> a hearing was held to determine seth penalver's sentence. life in prison or death by lethal injection. seth's attorneys wanted to argue that his tumultuous childhood should be taken into account. >> seth had a terrible childhood. his mom was a drug addict, and he was raised somewhat homeless. had to rely on himself. >> he was a middle school dropout. his dad is deceased and his mom is a heroin addict. he had no siblings. >> i told my attorney, no. you're not going to get up there and argue any of this. i'm not going to beg for my life for something i did not do. i might have had a messed up childhood, but that doesn't mean i committed this crime. they gave me three death
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sentences, two life sentences and a 15-year sentence. and they closed that door behind you it it's likedamn, this is real now. this is for real. i'm not supposed to die like this. >> seth's co-defendant, pablo ibar was also found guilty and sentenced to death. >> i thought that the sentence to death for both of them was fair. i've heard people say, well, the death penalty is not a deterrent. well, it's not meant to be. it's called justice. >> from the time of his arrest through years of trials, one of seth's childhood friends had been following his case from afar. after seth was sentenced, she went to visit him on death row. >> most american people think that the criminal justice system works. they think that when you're innocent you're going to be
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found not guilty, but that's not really how it works. >> renee worked as a paralegal and decided to take a fresh look at seth's case. >> coming into this, i didn't know what to expect or what i was going to find, but i just found things that had never been disclosed. all the evidence was hidden. there are so many leads that have gone unanswered. there is no doubt in my mind that he is innocent. new year, new phones for the family. join t-mobile, and when you buy one of the latest samsung phones get a samsung galaxy s8 free. plus, unlimited family plans come with netflix included.
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after being sent to death row for triple murder, seth penalver appealed his conviction to the florida supreme court. in their appeals seth's attorneys argue that no physical evidence linked seth to the crime and that all of the witnesses against seth had changed their stories over time. >> at the second trial prosecution argued that i was tampering with witnesses, that i tampered with melissa monroe, changed people's testimony and there wasn't a sliver of evidence that was so damning to have led a prosecutor to argue that, without anybody ever being charged, without no type of physical evidence. no audio, no nothing. >> a decision from the supreme court would take three years to
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come down. but in 2006 seth got word from his former co-defendant, pablo ibar also on death row. >> pablo sent word. he is like your appeal is being granted. congratulations, you got another chance at life. and i was just in such shock. >> the florida supreme court had unanimously granted seth a new trial. >> appeals are really about does the judge make errors. we were able to reverse that case on appeal and be granted a new trial for what the court calls cumulative error. >> i was disappointed for the family. it was gut-wrenching that you have to go through this again. >> but for seth's lawyers, who spent more time arguing seth's case than any attorneys on any case in broward county history, the prospect of a third trial was daunting. >> it was just so draining, especially third time. i'm not the young man i used to be. >> i do respect what hilly does, but there is just not enough time in the day to dedicate all his time to such a humongous case.
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>> knowing his third trial would likely be his last chance at freedom seth turned to a childhood friend for help. >> me and renee, you know, childhood friends. you were young. 15, 16. that's how we met. and i wound up finding out she was a paralegal. >> so this is the first time i've seen seth in 20 years. and i didn't find out until later on that his mom, dad and his grandmother all died while he was in prison. after that i started to go see him because i figured, you know, he is all alone, he is fighting for his life. i've seen the video, and i never thought it was him. the guy is too big to be him. >> renee read seth's trial transcripts and decided to help. >> i get a phone call from hilliard. seth wants to go through his file. will you go down and take all the boxes down and let him go through them one by one. i said, sure, no problem.
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>> renee, a single mom with two kids, worked on the case for free in her spare time. >> i had to clock out at 5:30 at work, and i would just pick up the box at the first folr, and i would go see seth on the weekends and go through the boxes with him. >> one by one i would look at it, look at it. all through a visitation booth with a big plexiglass. the stuff that we saw, it floored me. >> we get to a box where it says that alex hernandez was a suspect in an affidavit. i heard there were no other suspects in this case. well, if he's not a suspect, how is there an affidavit stating he is a suspect? seth and i sat back and said, well, what else is it that we don't have? >> as seth's third trial loomed, his team caught a break.
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seth's former co-defendant, pablo ibar had gained access to files police deemed irrelevant to the case and, thus, never disclosed. >> he gets 50,000 pages of public records. everything we've gotten and a lot that we haven't. that made all the difference in the case, i think. >> seth and i at this point start going through the documents, and i just found things that had never been disclosed. there are so many leads that have gone unanswered. >> some of those leads concerned the man at the center of the murders, butch casey. butch's reputation of being a playboy also included reputed ties to the mob. >> you have confidential informants saying, hey, man, this guy got beat up by the mafia. they put him inhe bac of the car. these are the guys that did it. >> there are statements given saying the morning of the murders two latin men come to the club and say to casey, we'll see you at the house later.
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an hour later he's dead. now, as a detective, that would be important to me. >> renee was also about to learn about a man named johnny magill. magill would confess to police that after the murders he was the one who drove butch casey's mercedes to the everglades and set it on fire. so here's the thing. i'm actually closer to my retirement days than i am my college days. i just want to know, am i gonna be okay?
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just before seth penalver's third trial in 2012 he received dozens of boxes of previously undisclosed files related to his murder case. >> seth and i go through those documents on a plexiglass page by page. >> the documents included a lead sheet containing a confession to police by a man named johnny magill. >> in both of the trials the state's theory is that pablo and seth drove the mercedes to palm beach county. but going through the documentation from the miramar police department, we find a lead sheet. johnny magill walks into the broward county sheriff's office and says, my boss ordered me to
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drive the mercedes to west palm beach county and set it on fire. you just walked in and admitted that you've committed arson in a triple homicide and the broward county sheriff's office let you walk out. you have witnesses who all put seth and pablo in sunrise with the mercedes and seth's car. the theory was that they were together, but it doesn't add up. it doesn't match. >> a few days after talking to police, johnny magill was murdered at a nightclub in miami. police never verified magill's claims and never told the defense. other documents police withheld included an inventory of security camera footage seized from butch casey's bar. >> butch casey had a number of cameras in his club. one of the tapes showed the bar area.
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another onshowed the entryway. so thoseapes would have possibly shown if ibar came in the club, if he came in with seth or he came in with rincon or hernandez. >> they always said that me and pablo were in there that night at casey's nickelodeon. the general manager came in and said, if you were in the club, you were on the video. >> the defense has always been told these videotapes don't exist, they don't have them, and they're presumed to have burnt up in the mercedes. but we find that those tapes have been sitting in the miramar police department for 18 1/2 years, no property receipt, no chain of custody. >> seth's defense now petitioned to see the tapes. >> we put them in the machine. they're blank. they're snow. we send them down to the sheriff's crime lab. they come back up and say, these are blank, but they're not blank because they're new. they're blank because they've been intentionally erased. >> the police department took
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out the evidence that put anybody else as a suspect, and they basically molded this case to how they wanted it to be read. >> other police files pointed to pablo ibar's associates, alex hernandez and alberto rincon, who were caught red-handed with ibar at a robbery in dade county. one report referenced butch casey's next-door neighbor, who saw a man in a white car outside butch's house on the morning of the murders. >> it was a miramar major crime summary. in it it lists all the witnesses including mr. and mrs. branyi, who live next-door to casey. at 7:00 in the morning they heard two males' voices outside the window. the wife saw a white car with a stocky male outside it. that's the first time we had ever heard of them. >> the witness says they see a white toyota outside the house with a stocky male getting into the white toyota.
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alberto rincon owns a white toyota and is a stocky male. so if it was alberto rincon in the toyota, he is now at the scene. if he is at the scene he could be one of the intruders. >> when rincon was arrested in dade county, police also found evidence that seemed to link him to butch's house. >> the footprints at the crime scene were never, ever tied to seth, but the home invasion robbery that happened in dade county, when rincon gets arrested, he is wearing sneakers that watch the footprints that are found at the crime scene. >> there were certainly enough evidence to portray rincon as a suspect, especially since he is wearing the shoes, he has a vehicle that's the same color as
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a vehicle seen outside the residence the morning of the murders. so there are so many leads that have gone unanswered. >> i remember the first time i seen some of that stuff. i cried. i cried. i was so angry. how could our government hide this evidence that i'm not the man? >> after spending months working together, seth and renee's relationship grew into more than friendship. >> she always has had a fighting spirit, doesn't like to lose. after i think reading all that material, seeing the injustice and eing my innocence, that was a drive. and during the te of our friendship, we began to have a bond closer than friendship. it began to be the love, the friendship and the injustice all combined into one. >> it was just raw emotion. one of the things that i've always loved about seth is that
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he was so positive. and one of the darkest places, in the darkest time of his life, he was very upbeat, happy, smiling, energetic. at some point, the broward county sheriff's office finds out that him and i have a personal relationship, and we had to have a hearing because they didn't want me coming into the jail and working on his case anymore. so there's a three-month period when i continued working on the case, but i wasn't actually allowed to go see seth. >> but with the trial about to begin, the state stood firm, vowing to reconvict seth and put him to death. (vo) make her day with just one touch. with fancy feast creamy delights, she can have just the right touch of real milk. easily digestible, it makes her favorite entrées even more delightful. fancy feast creamy delights. love is in the details. [ laughs ] rodney. bowling. classic. can i help you? it's me. jamie. i'm not good with names. celeste! i trained you. we share a locker. -moose man! -yo.
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seth penalver's third trial began on july 30th, 2012. once again, he was facing the death penalty. chuck morton, by now, chief prosecutor of broward county could appoint someone else to try the case but he decided to try it himself. but 18 years after the crime, morton was facing a much tougher battle. >> years later, memories change and fade. the persuasive value of the case now was much stacked against me. >> and this time, seth's defense tried an unconventional strategy with the crime scene video. >> we approached it much, much differently.
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we embraced the video and didn't run from it. >> we decided we were going to make the video our ally, a giant board with a picture of the intruder and just put it next to him and said this is not this guy. >> our defense was it's a mistaken identity. you definitely have the wrong person. and we also talked about how law enforcement manipulated and tricked and pressured people. >> the defense also presented documents renee uncovered showing payment to an anonymous tipster who used the last name pent lover to finger seth. the only person who called seth by that name was jean clamesko but he and police had both denied payment of a reward. >> the lead detective denied it under oath twice in front of a jury. and john clemenco, i asked, did you ever get a reward, no. no. no. i called paul manzella to the
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stand and i put those documents in front of him. i said, did you pay a tip? it's your handwriting, it's your notes. and he says yeah. so when that testimony finished what the jury realized is that paul manzella and john clemensco were ready to lie under oath in order to have seth convicted. >> in the end the defense argued police fixated onset ignoring other suspects and evidence that failed to implicate him. >> our theory at trial was obviously it was aybar and rincon or hernandez. can't they be the image just as easily as seth? i think that the defense is just throwing stuff up to make people feel doubt. if you saw your brother walking on a video even in it's blurry, you would know it's him.
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>> after ten nerve-wracking days, the jury finally returned on december 21st, 2012. >> you're fraught with just every emotion in the world. >> the moment was captured by cell phone video. >> we the jury find, count one of the indictment, not guilty. >> it kicks in that you know what? i'm not guilty. i don't know what happened. i left my body. i was crying like a baby. it's too much emotion. it's just too much. >> i could not believe it. like, is this even real? i got right on my knees in the middle of the courtroom, and i went to praying and praying and praying. >> later that night, seth
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penalver walked away from prison a free man. seth's case brought up serious questions about the use of video as evidence in murder trials. >> video is not 100%. sometimes video can create more issues than one would guess. >> the video is powerful for the emotions it wrenches in you. but does it always tell the whole story? >> the video is the truth. it is what happened. but it's everything else that was a story. you may have known the ending, but you had to create the beginning of it. you had to create the middle of it. it doesn't portray the whole picture. >> but just as seth claimed his prior guilty verdict didn't match the truth, so, too, does the prosecutor. >> i was very disappointed because i do believe that the
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evidence establishes that pablo aybar and seth penalver committed the crime. not guilty doesn't mean innocent. >> seth's co-defendant, pablo aybar, is still on death row. in 2012, he wrote a letter to seth that raised questions for the victim's family. >> there's this handwritten letter that's full of rage from pablo aybar. it basically tells him, you're not a victim. man up. take responsibility for your actions. >> for deborah buoy, the letter and the video of the crime can only mean one thing. >> i know that seth penalver is a murderer. he may pretend with anybody else that he's talking to and tell whatever story and thump whatever bible he wants to bring in, but that man is a cold-blooded murderer, and he may be acquitted, and he may be free, but he is guilty.
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on this episode of "death row stories," executions around the cotry go horribly wron >> it was clear something was not right. >> he looked like he was trying to get up off the gurney. >> you could see spasm go through his body. >> but when secrets emerge about government executions -- >> you've got people carrying cash in the night across state lines. they want to create the aura that everything is smooth. >> -- the question is asked, does it matter how we put people to death? >> these are evildoers. these are animals. we want justice. >> who cares if he feels pain? >> you are not allowed to experiment on people in killing them. >> we make these god-like decisions without god-like
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