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recyclable double-walled paper cup. it will remove 1 billion foam cups from the waste per year. mcdonald's will remove foam from all of its packaging by 2025. you think it tastes better from a foam cup. >> i don't think. i know it tastes better. >> you have to start hoarding them. >> i have a stack. we have to save the planet. we'll see you tomorrow. >> i am disappointed that chief of staff john kelly continues to say rob porter is a man of integrity and honor. >> the president and chief of staff have had full confidence and trust in his abilities. >> it is a lack of character and decent is seu but also political malpractice. >> the fact that somebody couldn't get clearance shab a red flag. >> he is shocked by the allegations. cnn has learned he's known for months. >> he knew about it and did
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nothing. >> i want to compliment senator mcconnell and schumer for reaching an agreement. >> nancy pelosi should not hold our military hostage. >> our dreamers hang in limbo. the republican moral cowardice must end. >> this is not consistent with what with he told the voters. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is thursday, february 8th, 6:00 here in new york. here's our starting line. president trump's chief of staff john kelly is under fire after saying that he is shocked by domestic abuse allegations against the top west wing aide. here's the problem. sources tell cnn that kelly knew for months that rob porter was accused by his ex-wives of physical and emotional abuse, but john kelly protected him. this latest crisis raises serious questions about the president's chief of staff. why did it take a photo of his ex-wife with a black eye for kelly to the distance himself
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finally from porter? why did kelly not take disciplinary action sooner. >> they have a tough situation to deal with. why did he have temporary intelligence clearance? he had been there so long. what was it that was holding it up? somebody knew something. the scandal overshadowing a major bipartisan agreement on capitol hill. senate leaders reaching a two-year budget deal that could prevent the federal government from shutting down tonight. in the house, a different situation. nancy pelosi, leader of the democrats, said she will not support the deal without paul ryan commit to go an immigration debate next week. what's the history to this? senator majority leader mcconnell promised a debate next week on the daca deal. the democrats accuse ryan of playing games with that commitment, which was always a risk and why some wanted to stand firm during the shutdown. breaking news overseas. south korea's president said he will meet with the sister of
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north korea's dictator at the winter olympics. this comes as kim jong-un staged a large military parade in pyongyang with hundreds of missiles on display, including its newest intercontinental ballistic missile. we have it all covered. let's begin with abby phillip live at the white house with our top story. abby? >> reporter: good morning, chris. there are new questions about the judgment of white house chief of staff john kelly after revelations that he knew about these allegations of his right-hand man rob porter of domestic abuse and seemingly did nothing about it. white house chief of staff john kelly expressing shock over what he calls, quote, new allegations of domestic abuse against white house staff secretary rob porter. but sources tell cnn that kelly learned of the accusations last fall and continued to the elevate his profile in the west wing despite also knowing that
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he had trouble obtaining a security clearance due alleged abuse. kelly is standing by an earlier statement calling him a man of true integrity and honor, even after the daily mail published these of his first wife, colby holderness. she said he choked her and punched her during a trip to italy. he denies allegations from both ex-wives. but he resigned saying these outrageous allegations are simply false. i will not further engage publicly with a coordinated sneer campaign. two sources familiar with the matter tell cnn that president trump only learned about the allegations against porter this week and was upset by the reports. a senior white house official blaming porter for misleading the staff after the white house rushed to defend porter after the initial report. >> the president and chief of staff have had full confidence and trust of his abilities and his performance. >> reporter: press secretary sarah sanders calling porter the
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highest exemplary. >> i'm not at all surprise approximated they see him as a model of discretion and integrity and character. >> reporter: two sources tell cnn that white house communications director hope hicks has been romantically involved with porter and helped draft kelly's initial statement. an ex-girlfriend recently contacted don mcgann to voice her concern after learning that hubgs and porter were dating. the scandal another blow for general kelly, who was at odds last month. and coming under fire for saying this. >> the difference between 690,000 and 1.8 million were the people that some would say they
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were too afraid to sign up, others would say were too lazy to get off their asses. >> even for someone that is in a statement. >> reporter: and saying it was a lack of ability to compromise rather than slavery that caused the civil war. well, chris and alisyn, after the white house initially said rob porter would take his time leaving the white house, cnn learned he is expected to leave as early as today. meanwhile, president trump will see and hear from him at the national prayer or breakfast in washington. >> thank you for all of that reporting. we want to discuss with john avlon and cnn political commentator margaret hoover. good to have both of you. they protected him. they knew some of this stuff. here is the history of rob porter. summer of 2005, the first wife says he he physically abused
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her. and june 2010 second wife takes out protective order against him. january 2007, they both share their stories with fbi. fall 2017, kel and aides become aware of this. and he has security clearance issues. he remains and they continue to protect him. the ex-girlfriend contacts white house counsel after learning hope hicks is having a relationship with porter. >> he never got final clearance approval. >> this is the part that is most shocking. staff secretary is an incredible important position. incredibly, all of the insensitive, top secret secure compartmentalized information the president sees goes through that one person through all of these channels of government. so he is privy to incredibly top
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secret materials. in order for the president to see it in an orderly way. that that individual didn't have a security clearance sets off huge alarm bells in terms of the system taoeuzed white house that was supposed to be running under john kelly. that's really hard to understand. >> i agree. also, i guess you don't need a security clearance. he's at the president's side. he's writing speeches for him. he's shaking the hand of president xi of china. >> but he looks the part. and that's important in this particular reality show. >> he has a pedigree if you don't look at his character. >> clearly whoever worked with him was impressed. no one knows what goes on unless there was a police report. and that was on obviously overlooked by very powerful people. >> here's the problem. if you have, as we have seen, on the republican side of the
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equation, sometimes there's been behaviors that are simply unconscionable or untenable. and there are, i think, too many times there's a little bit of forgiveness or an easiness with behaviors that aren't right in front of you. and i think rob porter probably excellently performed the duties of staff secretary. he is a harvard j.d., very smart guy, chief of staff in the senate office. i'm sure he was incredibly capable of streamlining the flow of information to the president. >> yeah. look, he has been trumpeted as being a bright light on that staff. and now they have a new problem. porter moves to the background. and their biggest problem moves to the foreground, which is they just can't tell the truth out there in this white house when they get called out. let's just trace it right here. the truth matters so much because it feeds into everything else. let's put out the first statement from john kelly when word about porter came out.
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>> rob porter is a man of true integrity and honor and i can't say enough good things about him. he is a friend, confidante and trusted professional and i'm happy to serve alongside of him. >> that was your opportunity to say but and then all of that. what was the second one? >> okay. give me a minute. >> you are the keeper of the statements. >> i am. >> he put out a secondary statements but he said allegations of domestic abuse have no place in the administration. and there was a suggestion. i was shocked by the new allegations released against rob porter. there is no place for domestic violence in our society. i stand by my previous comments of the rob porter that i have come to know since becoming chief of staff, and believe 6th individual deserves the right to defend their reputation. i accepted his resignation earlier today, and will ensure a
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swift and orderly transition. they get something wrong or they don't like a story. they either call it fake news or they lie. now, i am not accusing chief of staff john kelly. but he is in trouble both ways. you didn't know. but the fbi knew in 2017 and you are supposed to be the head. or you did know and you're lying. either way is not good. >> it comes from the top. unfortunately we have a president. it gets filtered through. there has been improvement. when you go from insane to crazy that's not reassuring. i think what we're confronting, it looks like the white house counsel did know about the domestic violence. but they were not confronted with public photos and they therefore chose to overlook it. that is really serious. really serious.
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>> walter schab sizes it pup john kelly often outed as the white house adult, falsely smeared a congresswoman, tells us a failure to compromise on slavery caused the civil war, called dreamers lazy, and protected a wife beeter. tell us again how we're never allowed to criticize a general. >> right. this is the part that's really tricky is that when you go from insane to crazy, i think that is flippant and high pyperbolic. what john kelly brought is a systemization and regularity to the white house. and even there this is very, very upsetting and disturbing and bad and not how we would
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want the highest office in the country to run. so it just shows you how far. >> have you ever heard of another chief of staff having two problems let alone the four that he has had. we're just enumerating and obvious and what's known. when has a you chief of staff done anything like this? >> we have never had a president of the united states who has done what this president has done, said the things this president has done. >> that he enforces for a straight agent in there, which is what kelly was. >> against the back drop of trump, he is still the straight agent. that's where we are. that's the difficult part. >> hope hicks is having a romantic relationship, being chafed by the paparazzi outside georgetown restaurants. >> it is all tawdry.
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not only does the white house have a huge vetting problem where they don't google people -- >> or they are overlooking it. >> that's a great point. >> you have walter schaab's tweet. they just named their ethics person yesterday or today. >> and all nominees have problems that could have been discovered with vetting, even a google search. but they also have a judgment problem. thank you both very much for talk thing about all of this. >> senate leaders, as we said, they have struck a bipartisan budget deal. two-year deal. but will it get done? the woman on your screen, nancy pelosi, leader of the democrats and the house says no. no votes from her caucus until they promise a debate and a vote on immigration.
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congress will vote today on a spending deal to avoid a shutdown of the federal government. senate leaders reaching a two-year budget deal that would add half a trillion dollars in spending. suzanne malveaux is live on capitol hill. what's going on?
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>> reporter: this could be a big victory for democrats and republicans. the senate deal, bipartisan deal has goodies for both sides making it tough to lawmakers to say no to. $160 billion for defense spending. $128 for non-defense spending, domestic spending. $80 billion for disaster relief for the hurricane-ravaged areas. a debt ceiling hike until march 2019, ticking out the midterm electionings of course. $20 billion investment in infrastructure. $6 billion for substance abuse programs. and 10-year reauthorization of the children's health insurance program. the president has reversed course before he was taunting democrats saying he welcomed a government shutdown while overnight tweeting saying, yes, this would be important and good for the military. so he is signing off on this. the senate is expected to vote on this today and hopefully take it to the house before midnight for passage. the house is really where it
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gets tricky. the big question is where you will get support. on the republican side, you have the freedom caucus saying this is too much money and adds to the testify sit. on the democratic side, they are livid this doesn't include immigration reform or plan for the dreamers. we saw it yesterday on on the house floor. nancy pelosi in an eight-hour speech, breaking records, talking about the dreamers. in four-inch heels, i might add. she wants to make sure at least house speaker paul ryan promises to bring some sort of bill to the floor. ryan says he is not going to do that unless the president signs off on it first. the big question, how many democrats will follow pelosi or break away and actually support this budget bill without the immigration reform. chris, alisyn. >> all right. thank you very much, suzanne. lets get into it.
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we have cnn analyst ron brownstein and john avlon. the vote today, what do we expect to happen? >> the senate is clearly there and the house is kind of a mess. >> they have a deal. so they will do the 60 votes, you think? >> yeah, absolutely. this is a continuation of a movie we have seen before. people should understand these spending caps on on both domestic and defense spending are the remnants of the attempt at the grand bargain between barack obama and john boehner. and spending caps were a doomsday machine put in designed to be so onerous. the spending caps they voted twice before to lift. so this is a continuum of what we have seen before. and i think the lesson of 1995, 2013, and the last few weeks is that it is really hard to use -- basically impossible to use a government shutdown as a threat
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to leverage policy concessions out of the president or the majority party. in the end the house will find awe way to pass this. this is not the battle field in which they want to fight immigration. >> where does that leave nancy pelosi's battle on the immigration? >> that was always a problem the democrats struck with the shutdown. they have in good faith with mitch mcconnell. this bipartisan deal with the senate is a big deal. it will stabilize the government in many respects, fund the government in many respects. and democrats can hold their head high and vote. paul ryan is the critical figure. can they find a way to work together. >> the question is there any possible deal that can both get 60 votes in the senate and not only 218 in the senate but a majority of the majority. that has always been the issue. there are 218 votes in the senate for a deal -- i'm sorry,
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in the house for a deal that could pass the senate tying protection for the dreamers to some sort of border security. that would have a majority in both chambers. it probably would not have a majority of republicans. as a result, paul ryan may not -- hold to go immigration. >> nothing has gotten done here in the house of representatives in the last several years unless the rule was ditched. >> he's pledged not to do it on immigration. >> what is the rule? >> the majority of the majority. >> and that's a problem. >> that is a stumbling block. the house republicans have largely barricaded themselves away from the increasing diversity of the country. they represent the parts of america that are least touched by diversity, least touched by immigration. 85% of the house republicans are in district fewer immigrants than the national average. they have been pulled toward the
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president's position on trying to be tough on documented immigration but a huge escalation in the battle by proposing significant reductions in legal immigration. the problem, though, is they still have about 35 members from districts that do have a large immigrant population. >> well, they have another problem too, though, ron. immigration is real. but i would suggest that that is a bigger swallow for the democrats. because we had joe biden the other day. they believe if you do daca, do it clean. not the wall. it is an absurd waste of money and a victory he doesn't deserve. but look at all the spending. jim jordan, member of the house freed freedom caucus was like this is what we promised to do. 500 billion in spend something how do they get their guys to swallow it? >> this is completely insane. he is king of debt in private
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life before he was president is now king of debt as president. >> they are not gone. they often go in hibernation to pass a tax code. if a democrat becomes president in 2021, paul ryan will be saying we have to cut medicaid, entitlements because we have this massive tsunami of debt. >> it's been remarkable to see how bold the switching of positions is on both sides. the human cry about debt switches parties depending. it's been fascinating. let's talk about the latest text message scandal if that's what you want to call it. this one text message has been revealed between peter strzok and page, the fbi agents, officials, who had the anti-trump bias it appears in their text messages.
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then a new one says potus wants to know everything. that was so scandalous it got senator ron johnson's attention. once again, this must show the deep state conspiracy until it turns out what they were referring to was that he wants to be kept abreast of russian meddling. >> and the text was right before his meeting with putin. >> and it was suggested heavily that it was about obama's interest in the e-mail investigation. this is his second one now. okay. he was with the whole secret society b.s. and now this. ron johnson was supposed to be a level-headed businessman. we let him be at the magic wall, for god's sake, to point out how insurance wants. he was supposed to be level-headed. now he seems to have thrown himself in with the most silly, embarrassing and absurd suggestions. >> it seems like the black lung disease of republican-elected officials, which is they may be
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smart but they feel a need to act stupid sometimes to appeal to their base. this was clearly taken out of context. this is a replay of the secret society text message problem which blew up in his face only a few weeks ago. the president should be interested in what's going on with russian meddling that is reasonable. but the deep state is the new security blanket. >> you talked in the last segment how the tone is set from the top. the same thing is evident here. you have a republican party that is following the trump lead of kind of losing interest in talking to the broad country and feeling anything to do with the russian probe to just throw out anything to provide talking points for conservative media. this is all just energizing the base. there is evidence in polling they are turning portions of the republican base against the fbi. the deterioration of the fbi. it is an alternative reality.
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the more outrageous you get, the more coverage you get in that kind of -- >> that's a profound and important point. they are keeping the base engaged. when senators and the president both seems politically determined to further destroy trust in civic institutions, that's incredibly dangerous for the country. that's what we're witnessing right now. >> ron johnson of all people. we used to have him on here. he would check with the president. he was a voice of reason. he's in wisconsin. he's not in louisiana or something like that. you have a state in louisiana, that's what makes it so hard for senator kennedy. there is much move of an appetite. >> another marker that donald trump is changing the republican party much more than it is changing him. they thought to moderate his behavior. he is radicalizing his behavior.
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>> ron is a touch stone of that. cajun over there. >> history unfolding on the korean peninsula. the south korean president will meet with the north korean deck taeurt's sister at the olympics. a live report next. [ click, keyboard clacking ]
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today is your day. crush it. angie's boom chicka pop whole grain popcorn. boom! we have breaking news right now. south korea's president said he will meet with the sister of the north korean dictator. kim jong-un is parading hundreds of missiles ahead of the olympic games tomorrow. live in seoul with all the breaking details. what have we learned, will? >> reporter: we saw the pictures come in overnight of the massive military parade. we have seen more intercontinental ballistic missiles displayed than we have
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ever seen. they were first tested last year in july and later in november. missiles they claim could hit mainland united states. the source was to try to demonstrate north korea's ability to mass produce the kind of weapons to take aim at the u.s. if a war were to envelope. but it is considerably smaller than what we believed they would see. many more mockups were unveiled. north korea having a very hard time getting the type of transport, needed to carry the missiles because of international sanctions. they require things like large wheels, which are harder for north korea to get than the missile components themselves because they are produced domestically. >> tell us what's going on between this feud vice president
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pence and the gay olympian. >> the men's figure skater had a very public spat. he said he doesn't think the vice president should be representing the united states due to the fact that he is known to oppose the lgbt community, even giving a statement back in 2000 that led many to believe he supports gay conversion therapy. the vice president, according to "usa today", tried to arrange a meeting with him after it came out. the figure skater said he wasn't interested in talking until after the olympics. gus kenworthy saying they have no reason to meet with the president at the white house as is custom. the president is firing back, tweeting about this, calling it fake news. hrt it says -- actually, i have lost it. there we go. >> go ahead, will.
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i want you to know that we are for you. don't let fake news distract you. i am proud of you and all of our great athletes. and my only hope for you and all of team usa is to bring home the gold. go get 'em. that is the latest from the vice president. clearly he's firing back against these reports, doesn't want the world to think that he doesn't support lgbt athletes at the olympics despite what they are saying. >> problem is he shouldn't have said it back in 2000 and shouldn't have been so strong for the religious freedom restoration act of governor of indiana in 2015. we will have more on this controversy. there is no controversy in terms of the truth. the controversy is how the vice president is handling it. we'll talk to the reporter behind the story next. ♪ everything you need to go. ♪
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tomorrow's opening ceremonies in south korea. the vice president tried to set up a meeting with adam last month saying you mean mike pence that funded gay conversion therapy? i'm not buying it. he appears to be referencing a statement from the 2000 campaign website saying resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior. and of course pence, as governor of indiana, was a big proponent of the state's religious freedom rest raeoration act, which allo people to avoid laws for equal treatment of the lbgt community. we spoke to the usa reporter behind the story earlier this morning. cnn sports analyst christine brennan. christine brennan, it is not the olympics without you.
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it is is great to have you, as always >> reporter: thanks, chris. great to be with you. >> this is a story where we have to get the facts and then deal with the implications. there is a dispute starting with the vice president of the united states about what happened here. give us the facts as you reported them. >> reporter: on january 16th, i had a telephone interview with adam rappon. the first openly gay athlete to be a winter olympian from the united states. and in the course of the interview i asked about mike pence leading the delegation for the opening ceremonies. and adam did not hold back. he said you mean mike pence the man who funds gay conversion therapy? i'm not buying it. then he launched into quite an attack on not only the vice president but the president of the united states, chris. i quoted him and the story appeared early afternoon of january 17th, published online,
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usatoday.com. in one hour i was hearing from the press secretary of the vice president who was very angry, wanted to have a statement disputing this whole gay conversion therapy thing. we of course ran the statement. and that was it. although as a journalist, as you know, i continued to report the story. people called me with some details. and i was able then to break the news, i guess, what, in the last 24 hours, about the fact that mike pence wanted to have a conversation with adam and that adam declined that invitation. >> you have two sources on the intentions of the vice president to meet with the skater. is that true? >> reporter: i had two sources that i mentioned. i also had another source who gave me deep background information but ask that i not even mention that person as a source. so there's actually three
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sources. i cannot stress enough how people came to me over the course of a couple of weeks. this is one of the easiest sourced reporting jobs i have ever had in 35 plus years of journalism. this was a no-brainer. there was not even a shred of doubt. there should never be as a journalist. but this one absolutely rock solid from the nature of my sources and the knowledge they had of mike pence and his interest in wanting to talk to adam. >> christine brennan, welcome to our world where things that you can report out as true are often denied even at the top echelon. now let's talk about why rappon doesn't want to meet with the vice president. he's openly gay, an advocate as well. it goes back to about 2000 when the vice president was a congressman and he was supporting funding for services for people who want to change their sexual behavior or
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orientation. what else could that mean other than gay conversion therapy? >> reporter: i know you feel this way and i do as well. it certainly sounds like gay conversion therapy. i asked the press secretary if she could give me the answer of what that was. that was back on january 17th on our back and forth when i wrote the first story. she did not give me an answer on the record. she didn't even do that. that is such a key part of this. that is what pence was saying and that's why he was so angry and that he wanted to have the conversation with him. everything stems from that. i'm trying to get the answer to that. and the vice president's office just would not give it to me. >> it would be easy enough to clear up. let's see the substance of the pushback. headed to the olympics to cheer on team usa. one reporter, that would be you, trying to distort 18-year-old nonstory to sow seeds of division. we won't let that happen. #fakenews. our athletes are the best in the
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world and we are for all of them. that statement aside, when you take what was said in 2000 with what was done by then governor mike pence in 2015 with his very strong support and pushing of the rifra which essentially allowed people to use religion to get around government mandates of equality. you put them together, and it's a fairly clear picture for any journalist, is it not? >> reporter: absolutely it is is, chris. even more important for this particular story and the conversation of a figure skater and a vice president, which is kind of hard to believe that the vice president cares this much about it. that's the thing that hit me all the way through this, that he was even spending time on this. you can understand how adam, advocate, 28 years old, talks about being bullied and how being here he can represent a community and also for kids
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having trouble in high school, that he could be a voice and role model for them. you can understand why he would be so concerned about wanting to deal with mike pence. he did say after he competes, he told me this on the 17th, he would certainly be willing to entertain a conversation with the vice president. >> and the vice president did try to clean this up to a certain extent. i want you to know we are for you. don't let fake news distract you. i'm proud of you and all of our great athletes. and my only hope for you and all of team usa is to bring home the gold. go get 'em. it would be nice if there could have been a clean breaks between the politics and the olympics. thank you for reporting it. it should be just about the olympics, but it never is. thank you for being with us this morning. enjoy it. i look forward to your coverage >> reporter: chris, thanks so much. take care. thank you. >> i think the fake news moniker loses some of its punch when you use it every day and you use it wrong. >> that's the hope. philadelphia getting ready to celebrate their champion
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where we should be for this time of the morning or this time of the day. this weather brought to you by green mountain coffee roasters. packed with goodness. maybe a good, warm cup of coffee will make you feel good. it will be cold all across the midwest. that said, chicago, detroit, by this time tomorrow you're in a full-blown snowstorm. a foot of snow. if you live there, travel there, you need to pay attention to the snowstorm. it is the biggest of the year. it doesn't affect the east coast. it does put an awful lot of snow all the way back to gary, indiana. chris? >> appreciate it, my friend. the city of philadelphia ready for a parade for the super bowl champions. andy scholes has more in the bleach or report. you are out of the cold and into the warm embrace of fans who waited for a lifetime for this moment. >> those fans now have to go out and celebrate the eagles.
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more than 2 million will be out there today braving the temperatures to celebrate the game's first super bowl title. brought to you by the new 2018 ford f-150. the parade will go through downtown andened on the iconic steps of "rocky." some establishments giving out free ice cream, doug pederson just loves himself some ice cream. at around 11:00 a.m. eastern. i expect to see much calmer pictures than we did sunday night of the eagles won. >> you do? i don't know. free ice cream. there could be a riot. andy, thank you very much. listen to this story. this is a professor and father of three who has been living in the u.s. for 30 years. he is facing deportation tomorrow. we will speak with two of his children about the family's
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a bangladeshi professor, a father of three, was detained by immigration agents two weeks ago. he originally entered the u.s. lawfully on a student visa and later obtained many work visas to stay. at the time of his arrest, he recovery stayed a voluntary departure notice. so why was he arrested? we have 14-year-old taseen and 12-year-old naheem. they are joined by their uncle. naheen, your dad was about to take you to school when i.c.e. agents came and arrested him. so tell us what happened that
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morning. >> so my dad was just about to back out. we were just about to drive off to school when an i.c.e. officer came and tapped on the window. so he rolled it down. and then he asked who they were there for. they said they were looking for the arrest of siyed jamal to arrest him. >> was that a surprise to your family? >> yeah. well, i had heard that things like this was going around like in america. but i didn't really think it would happen to us. >> naheen, you spoke to your dad. your dad has been in jail now two weeks. he is a chemistry professor. >> yes. >> he's obviously been, according to you all, extending his visas legally. so taseen, tell us what happened
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when you spoke to your dad yesterday. what did he say? >> so, yeah, when i spoke to my dad yesterday, he was very uncertain of the future. and he wanted to know what would become of us if he was sent. and he told us to stay strong no matter what happened and that in a way he would always be here. >> syed, your brother entered the country legally as we understand it on an international student visa in the 1980s. he had no criminal record. he has a couple of speeding tickets, you all say. he had an h-1-b visa for highly skilled workers. he had been granted to the stay in the u.s. under supervision. do you have any idea why i.c.e. agents have focused on him? >> well, you know, since 2017,
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the rules have changed a little bit. because he was considered a low priority individual under the morton memo. so he was under the supervision program. and starting the morton memo is no longer valid, as you know. nowadays what they are working with is the kelly memoranda. it does not distinguish between low priority, high priority, criminals or noncriminals, however you want to look at it. anybody who has a deportation order they are rounding them up whether it's low priority or not. so that's what, you know -- so they're saying basically he has a deportation order regardless of whether it's low priority or not. >> naheen, president trump has said in the past what we're going to do is get rid of all
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the people who cancer criminal records, who are gang members, who are drug dealers. that's who we're going to get rid on of. your dad is not a gang member, a drug dealer. he's a college professor. what do you want to tell the president? >> that he shouldn't be taking people who have done nothing wrong. >> and what happens, taseen, tomorrow, if your dad is deported? >> well, obviously there's going to be a lot of sadness, as you know. no one really deserves to lose a family member like this especially if it's wrongfully done. and it's going to be very bad if he's taken. and i don't know what my family and i are going to do.
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>> syed, here's the statement from i.c.e. here's what they say. jamal, your brother, came to i.c.e.'s attention in september 2012 following his arrest on on misdemeanor criminal charges at johnson county kansas jail. he was taken into i.c.e. custody september 11th, 2012. he was released on order of supervision in november of 2012. on may 21, 2013, the board of immigration appeals dismissed his order on that appeal. >> alisyn, they corrected that statement. they issued a new one. there was no misdemeanor. they blatantly lied about that. because he had no misdemeanor. he has two speeding tickets, okay? so they should have corrected the statement. there is no misdemeanor there. >> that's really important for us to know that clarification. so how do you explain, syed? the president said he wanted to focus on hardened criminals and
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drug dealers. how can your brother, the college professor who has been here 30 years, came in legally, how do you explain what's happening? >> like i said, that you are not separating between low priority and high priority individuals. so they're going after everybody and anybody. and, you know, it's happening nationwide. and it's very sad. so at this moment, alisyn, one of the things that we're dealing with -- this is the way we feel. the immigration judges are required to make a decision, right, quickly on an emergency stay of motion for an emergency state of request. it is very frustrated because the allegation in our motion is the immigration judge did not do what they were supposed to do when they issued the

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