how can your brother, the college professor who has been here 30 years, came in legally, how do you explain what's happening? >> like i said, that you are not separating between low priority and high priority individuals. so they're going after everybody and anybody. and, you know, it's happening nationwide. and it's very sad. so at this moment, alisyn, one of the things that we're dealing with -- this is the way we feel. the immigration judges are required to make a decision, right, quickly on an emergency stay of motion for an emergency state of request. it is very frustrated because the allegation in our motion is the immigration judge did not do what they were supposed to do when they issued the departure. >> i understand.

so you think there has been a technical problem. what do you want to say, very quickly, to the judges deciding your brother's fate tomorrow? >> we're asking them to take up the motion. the motion is sitting in court. let the judicial branch do its job, right? we have three separate branches of government. >> yeah. >> they are equal branches. but they cannot circumvent one another. >> understood. >> if the executive branch is that he should be deported, let the judicial branch decide that and we're requesting that the judge take up the motion soon. >> okay. understood. we understand that time is very much of the essence for your family. to all the jamal family, obviously we will be watching your story. thank you very much for sharing your story with us. >> thank you. >> thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn "newsroom" is next. for the u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> john kelly put a domestic

abuser above what our country needs. >> i can tell you rob has been an effective in his role as staff secretary. >> the allegations are really serious. >> this budget deal is the first real sprout of bipartisanship. >> i would be very surprised if more than a couple members would vote yes. >> if they want my vote, they need to negotiate with us. >> south korea's president announcing a meeting with kim jong-un's sister. >> it is directly attacked the lgbt community. >> pence denying a report that he requested a meeting with a gay athlete and was snubbed. >> this story is rock solid. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day". president trump's chief of staff john kelly under fire and with good reason. he is saying he is shocked by

domestic abuse allegations by a top west wing aide. how can he be shocked when sources show kelly knew for months that rob porter was accused by his ex-wives of physical and emotional abuse. ex-wives. two of them. kelly protected him. why did it take until now for kelly to distance himself and the white house from porter. >> that is overshadowing a big deal in congress. the senate and the house set to vote on a bipartisan budget deal to prevent the shutdown of the federal government tonight. house leader nancy pelosi said she will not agree unless there is a commit to meet about immigration next week. abby phillip is live at the white house. what's the latest, abby? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. there are new questions about the judgment of white house chief of staff john kelly after allegations emerged that his right-hand man rob porter was

accused of domestic abuse and his marriages with two women. and kelly knew about those allegations tpaor months. and apparently did nothing about it. white house chief of staff john kelly expressing shock over what he calls, quote, new allegations of domestic abuse against white house staff secretary rob porter. but sources tell cnn that kelly learned of the accusations last fall and continued to the elevate his profile in the west wing despite also knowing that he had trouble obtaining a security clearance due alleged abuse. kelly is standing by an earlier statement calling him a man of true integrity and honor, even after the daily mail published these of his first wife, colby holderness. she said he choked her and punched her during a trip to italy. he denies allegations from both ex-wives. but he resigned saying these outrageous allegations are simply false. i will not further engage publicly with a coordinated

smear campaign. two sources familiar with the matter tell cnn that president trump only learned about the allegations against porter this week and was upset by the reports. a senior white house official blaming porter for misleading the staff after the white house rushed to defend porter after the initial report. >> the president and chief of staff have had full confidence and trust of his abilities and his performance. >> reporter: press secretary sarah sanders calling porter the highest character and exemplary character. >> i'm not at all surprise that people who work with him see him of discretion character and integrity. as i mentioned, i believe he is. and in his personal life he is also abusive and angry. >> reporter: two sources tell cnn that white house communications director hope hicks has been romantically involved with porter and helped draft kelly's initial statement. politico reports that

an ex-girlfriend recently contacted don mcgahn to voice her concern after learning that hicks and porter were dating. the scandal another blow for general kelly, who was at odds last month. kelly coming under fire for saying this about undocumented immigrants who did not sign up for the dreamer program. >> the difference between 690,000 and 1.8 million were the people that some would say they were too afraid to sign up, others would say were too lazy to get off their asses. >> reporter: since taking the reins, kelly has been criticizing for falsely claiming fredricka wilson took credit for funding for an fbi building. >> even for someone that is that empty a bell we were stunned. >> reporter: kelly also sparking outrage saying it was lack of ability to compromise rather than slavery that caused the civil war. chris and alisyn, the white house said rob porter would be transitioning out of his role in the coming week but cnn is

learning he could be leaving as soon as today. president trump will seen him in a couple of hours at the national prayer breakfast here in washington. >> abby, thank you for all of that background. let's stkes it with david gregory and karoun demerge an. let's start with the timeline. then we can get to your probing questions. i know it's confusing but the point is john kelly should have known. summer of 2005, the first wife says he he physically abused her. and june 2010 second wife takes out protective order against him. january 2007, they both share their stories with fbi. according to the "washington post". fall 2017, kelly and aides become aware of this. and he has security clearance issues. in recent weeks, according to

politico, his ex-girlfriend contacts white house counsel after learning of hope hicks, the director of communications, romantic relationship with porter. what was john kelly thinking, david gregory? >> well, be i don't know. but i think there is a lot of questioning to be done about how this is handled. when you have these allegations come forward against anyone in a professional setting, there's a lot that you want to and can investigate. it's not just about, well, this is a claim that is made and what do you say about it? there are records. there's photographs. there's records of going to an emergency room. you want to be very thorough about all of this. i guess anyone can understand the chief of staff feeling like this is a terrific person. i trust his character and all of these things. but these are serious allegations that he came to finally say in a statement. i think you have to be very careful about vetting this, trying to get to the bottom of it before you say, hey, i'm

behind you. you should stay and fight. by the way, the other piece of this is you're working in the white house. if you want to start communicating to the american people, you better be clear about what you're doing and saying. the fact that there were shifting statements on this in a matter of hours is the very most generous, incredibly sloppy, if not something worse. and you have to be held to account. >> you have the legitimate questions that david lays out, karoun. and then you have the facts that deserve scrutiny. here's what he said. here's the first statement from john kelly. >> rob porter is a man of true integrity and honor and i can't say enough good things about him. he is a friend, confidante and trusted professional and i'm proud to serve alongside of him. no convention of two women coming forward. they have legal redress. porter denies the allegations. and the second, i was shocked by

the new allegations released today against rob porter. there is no place for domestic violence in our society. i stand by my previous comments of the rob porter that i have come to know since becoming chief of staff, and believe individual deserves the right to defend their reputation. i accepted his resignation earlier today, and will ensure a swift and orderly transition. two things. he knew and is lying about not knowing. or he didn't know and that may be even more troubling. because this man, rob porter, saw the most sensitive classified information because he is the passthrough to the president. he didn't even have permanent clearance. and we don't know why. either way, this is bad. >> right. and there's a buck stops here question as well when you talk about the chief of staff and the white house and what he should have known. especially when talking about standard questions in a background process. they interview ex-wives. if there's allegations raised,

even if they were generally aware, you can ask questions to get a more specific understanding. >> both wives went to the fbi. it wasn't like word on the street. >> exactly. even if you're not immediately presented with the details you can see the details if you ask for them. it seems those questions were not asked s. and why? sure, this guy has a strong reputation in washington, d.c. he came from the senate first. he has a lot of people behind him. but as we often know, sometimes the professional persona doesn't match the personal life. so those questions, when the allegations are raised, they should be asked. if they weren't, that is troubling and should be a lesson to learn from the next time. if the answers were known better, though, than white house aides were letting on and dismissed, that is extra troubling. what does that say about what the people in the white house are willing to dismiss and look away from when it involves very serious allegations of abuse. and that's real.

>> we have to underline, this is not somebody working in a corporation where, you know, there are important standards of behavior and standing. this involves a security clearance. it is is incumbent on any white house, especially with somebody working in the west wing to say, look, some things are coming up in your background review. we need to get to the bottom of these. there are questions raised. any time this allegation comes out, let alone by two women, two ex-wives where there are photographs, where there are, be again, other records of why she had to go to the hospital, what were the circumstances. and even porter's statement saying, well, the real story behind those pictures is not what it claims to be. well, we have to have that conversation unfortunately. you want a security clearance. and to come out and be tpwhroeg in his support, which i don't think is inappropriate by general kelly, that's how he

feels. even orrin hatch made a point of saying these are really disturbing allegations. we're praying for everybody involved. that was a lot more responsible than letting it be known he wanted him to stay and fight and he is just a great guy. and say, oh, yeah, by the way, these are really disturbing allegations and in the process he's had to resign. >> especially when these things need to come to light because the press starts to look into them and raise questions about this. and then there is the quick turnaround. >> look, this casts john kelly in a different light. the idea that he is there to quell controversies, that's how he has been depicted. he has been creating

controversy. >> i think we probably don't pay as much attention to his statements because of who he is usually protecting, which is the president of the united states and how outrageous he often is. if you think about it, you have this right now. you had where it started with fredricka wilson, where in the moment of that, the widow of one of the men killed in niger. >> la david johnson. and he got his facts wrong about what happened with her. >> that's right. dreamers are too lazy. here's the thing. you know what the best test is of this. i can't remember all of these things because so many have happened. it's the same thing we have with trump all the time. we're no longer talking about the fact that they didn't put the sanctions in because there was the next thing, the next thing. and we are dealing with the same thing with kelly, karoun. there are so many incendiary things you can't keep track. >> especially with the comments

about the undocumented immigrant kids. look, this is -- kelly came in, people assumed he had a rather sterling reputation. now he is each of these things he says that does not fit the image of the general who is going to impose law and order in the white house and make everything work smoothly. the fact that he is saying things similar to the morin send ear controversial things the president said. this is not what people expected when kelly came into office. >> both things can be true. he can be doing a lot to instill discipline. he can be a hard line guy who in his civilian capacity isn't afraid to let his views be known. when you're chief of staff to donald trump, you realize you have room to do that. and he's doing that. there is a bigger picture of him and his effectiveness in the white house. >> thank you very much. what else is happening in washington, d.c.? it's a big day. congress is set to vote on a spending deal to avoid a

shutdown of the federal government that would happen tonight, by the way. senate leaders say they have a deal on a two-year budget proposal. it would add half a trillion dollars in spending. suzanne malveaux is live on capitol hill with the details. what do we know? >> reporter: good morning, chris. well, this big budget deal could be a huge victory for democrats and republicans. you're talking about two years here. it has goodies for both sides. it is designed so law makeers will not say no to this deal. we're talking $160 billion in defense spending. $128 billion for nondefense. $128 for non-defense spending, domestic spending. $80 billion for disaster relief for the hurricane-ravaged areas. a debt ceiling hike until march 2019, ticking out the midterm elections of course. $20 billion investment in infrastructure. $6 billion for substance abuse programs. and 10-year reauthorization of the children's health insurance program. the president has reversed

his position. furst he was taunting democrats saying a shutdown would be good. now backing the plan saying it was important for the military. so what happens today? look for a vote on the senate side, likely to pass, goes to the house before midnight, before the government potentially shuts down for a vote there. that is where you will see the state of play. things may change. some challenges here. the house republicans, conservatives of the house freedom caucus looking at the deficit and the big price tag of this. of they're not happy. then you have house democrats, the progressives who are looking at this. no immigration reform. no daca deal. that underscored by a democratic leader nancy pelosi on the house floor yesterday breaking all records with an eight-hour-long speech talking about the need to support the dreamers here. the big question, of course, is whether or not the fellow democrats will go along with that or this budget deal.

alisyn. >> absolutely, suzanne. obviously we'll be watching it. thank you very much for that. so the rob poert allegations are raising big questions about the judgment of chief of staff john kelly. do republicans still have faith in him? we'll ask a gop congressman next. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits... ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you want at the lowest price. grazi, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor. what can a president [ do in thirty seconds? he can fire an fbi director who won't pledge his loyalty. he can order the deportation of a million immigrant children.

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white house chief of staff john kelly is under fire. sources tell cnn he has known for months that top white house aide rob porter was accused by two ex-wives of domestic abuse. why did kelly protect porter and continue to raise his profile. joining us is congressman adam k k kinzinger. >> he has serious issues and something if in fact, this was known prior it should have been dealt with prior. i don't know the details of what john kelly knew. i learned on some of these stories right when they come out, you don't have all the facts. there's no doubt in the business we work in in government service there's no room for anybody that

is involved in spousal abuse. this should have been dealt with or at least was dealt with now. >> our reporting is that john kelly, the chief of staff, has known about this since last fall. in fact, rob porter couldn't get a full security clearance. >> yeah. >> if the chief of staff john kelly haslett rob porter continue to work with this access to the president, he cooperate get a security clearance with this account from the ex-wives, does that cause you to lose faith in john kelly? >> no. look, john kelly, in terms of a personnel question, again, a lot of details to come on out. i think if this was fully known, if in fact, that was the case, they should have moved on this a lot earlier. yesterday we bombed and destroyed 100 pro regime forces in syria taking a stand against then roachment of bashar al assad against our allies and standing against the russia. that is a direct responsibility of the decisions by the president and chief of staff.

i have full confidence in the chief of staff and the decisions he's making with and around the president. >> i do want to get the details because the american public do need to hear you. but how can you have full faith and confidence in john kelly? >> from basically hearing this yesterday, i'm uncomfortable and saying with some of the things that have been reported, here's my answer and i do or don't have faith in the chief of staff. if he did know, did he make to attempt action? if not, why? there is no doubt if somebody is in office or a position of public trust and that's been the allegation of that, it needs to be adjudicated and should have been sooner. that necessarily jumps to the level of saying i don't have faith in general kelly. >> okay. i understand. i understand that you are saying you need more details. >> there's a lot of people who

can't get a security clearance for a lot of reasons. i don't know if he needed one for his position. a lot of them you don't if you're a secretary position or a media position. i just don't know. it's a legitimate question to ask me. but i'm uncomfortable in saying here's the answer when i don't know all the details. >> you know yesterday they put out a statement about rob porter. does that show bad judgment? >> look, i think this guy obviously has real issues. he should not have worked in the white house. and he's gone now. that's a good thing. the question is what did or didn't we know? and if there is anybody else with this kind of situation, it ought to be dealt with. >> i want to ask you about the budget because the clock is ticking. the senate passed this budget plan. $500 billion in new spending. will the house go along with this? >> yeah, i think so. i think it is going to be

bipartisan. it's not pretty. governing is difficult. we have to rebuild our military, though. we have neglected it for a long time. if we don't do this, we will spend way more money in the future in order to add military spending, democrats will have leverage. we want to add to domestic spending. a lot are republican priorities. any time you ever come to a deal, no side is going to be happy. that's how you usually know you have something that works. ultimately, we have to see all the details because we have only seen top lines. but i think this passes and we can get out of the cycle of crisis after crisis here. >> just out of curiosity, what has happened to the republicans claiming fiscal conservative? >> we still do. the difference is when you give tax cuts, you reinspire an economy, which we are seeing happen right now. massive economic growth. people are hiring. that's a good thing. the business will still invest in expanding operations because that will help it to get out of

debt. on the other side of things, with something like this, look, the number one priority i have is to protect this country. as a currently serving military guy, i can tell you spheequeste isn't working. we have to spend more. 75% of federal expenditures aren't even controlled by congress. it is something we're not even talking about. >> that leads us to syria. tell us what's happening in syria. what is assad doing right now? >> assad is trying to maintain power. he is being held up by the russians and iranians. they are as much to bear the deaths. the inaction in syria led to this complicated situation where you have turkey, syria, iran, the united states and all these actors standing there saying we want syria to look like to be free or whatever russia wants in this case. and iran is trying to build a

land bridge. the existence of our forces, bashar al assad and his associated forces approached our base and, frankly, we did what we said we would do, which is protect ourselves. early indications are 100 dead, pro-assad forces. there is speculation, i don't want to say i have confirmation, i don't, that there are russian contractors involved as well. >> congressman, thank you very much for speaking about all of this today with us. >> you bet. see ya. >> what is what we are hearing from the congressman telling us about the bipartisan deal that we are seeing in the senate? of course he's in the house. you need both to get a law. what's going to happen with nancy pelosi and the democrats? will they support this bill? they have their own reasons not to next.

the senate and the house are going to vote today on a new budget deal to avert another government shutdown. remember, the deadline is tonight. now, nancy pelosi is the leader of the democrats and the house. she said she will not support this bill that they have figured out in the senate unless paul ryan will commit to debating immigration next week basically echoing the commitment that

mcconnell made, of course the gop senate majority leader. so where does that leave us? let's ask democratic senator john tester. i think i got it right. you have a deal. that's good. good to see two sides working together. we will talk about the merits of the deal. but are you stymied by what may happen in the house? >> the senate needs to move forward. and i'm encouraged by this deal because it's long term in nature. it funds critical things, community health centers which are critically important in montana. that is something i have been fighting for both a long-term budget deal and the community health centers and rebuilding our military, and making sure the v.a. has the resources to rebuild their facilities. so i think there's some good things in this bill that help montana and help the country and help rural america in particular. there is no doubt bit. the daca can issue needs to be dealt with. we need to treatment folks fairly and move forward with a

plan for them for citizenship. they were brought here by no fault of their own. and we need to deal with them. but in the meantime, i applaud the fact that finally after six, eight months, leadership has gotten together and gotten as a long-term budget. i think help both the military and our veterans. >> do you think ryan will mirror the commitment of mcdonnell? >> well, i certainly hope he does. in the meantime, i will tell the you this budget agreement is a step forward. let me give you an example. in montana, chris, we have community health centers on tcuf closing. folks would have to drive sometimes a long distance to get health care. in fact, low-income folks to a great extent and children too a great extent. so what happened after this week

is a really good sign. it's something i have been pushing for for a long time. this is a good sign. >> do you think about reaching out to pelosi and saying, look, i get it on immigration. but don't hold up this deal, we need it? >> absolutely. from what i have seen, and i don't have all the specifics. i think it's a good deal. and we don't want to let it go. >> is she is saying no votes until ryan gives us the same commitment. >> chris, i think ryan should make that commitment. it's a fair thing to do. >> but if he doesn't, are you okay with the householding up this bill in the name of democrats? >> i think this bill needs to move forward. that is the bottom line. it does so many good things for rural america and places in my home state of montana.

>> i get the arguments in favor. i have pushback. i'll get to it in a second. have you reached out to nancy pelosi? >> i have not reached out to nancy pelosi. typically i don't do that. that is something leadership needs to do. i worry about the senate. i worry about making sure that we do our job in the senate and make sure that the senate does what people elected us to do. >> the political push back is this. and i get why you don't want to reach out. she almost bit my head off the last time i enter is viewed her. she is the face of the democrats. she's leading the calling us. let's see what the leadership does. the pushback politically is you democrats have thrown a ton of money in this because you hold this trump card, no pun intended, with the 60-vote swing needed in the senate. so republicans are saying the democrats are larding on spending to match needed military spending. fair criticism? >> well, it is political rhetoric. the bottom line is, look, i think the military needs to be

rebuilt. i think with he need to have money for bordter security. those things are very, very important. in the meantime, how we treat our veterans is very, very important. how we treat community health centers is very, very important. it's why we need an infrastructure bill, by the way. this bill has money for infrastructure, which i think is very, very positive moving forward. like i said earlier, chris, is this bill perfect? seldom are they perfect. but it does some good things for rural america. and that's the view i look at, from that lens. we're going to push forward and continue to push to make sure the dreamers are dealt with in a responsible way. i hope speaker ryan allows for a good, solid debate. it is important for the country for him to do that. if he is able to do that, then i think we can get the best of all worlds. >> so gaffes starting in the white house often overshadow policy concerns. we have another one. rob porter, big pedigree,

harvard law, well regarded in the white house, critical position as the is secretary to the president. people don't understand that position. he got to handle all the classified information, everything of substance as a passthrough to the president. he would present them to the president. he didn't have complete clearance. and it seems as though one of the reasons may be these allegations of domestic abuse against two ex-wives. kelly seemed to suggest he didn't know about it. then said these are bad, these types of abuse claims. and then we hear that the white house did know about them. how much of a concern? >> well, i have no use for anybody that beats their spouse. none whatsoever. and i will tell you the guy should be shipped out the door months ago as soon as they found out about it. if the white house knew about it months ago, shame on them. >> do you trust john kelly still if that's true? >> if john kelly is holding this

up, he needs to be held accountable. >> and what does that mean, holding him accountable? >> that he has to justify what he did, why he did it, and he better have a really good reason. otherwise, he's gone too. >> senator tester, thank you for being on the show, as always. >> thank you. >> alisyn. north korea parading missiles and tanks hours before the start of the winter olympics. we'll tell you about the breaking details on also this historic meeting that will happen. that's next.

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breaking news. south korea's president said he will meet with the sister of north korea's dictator kim jong-un approximate pyeongchang ahead of the olympic games tomorrow. will ripley has the breaking details. obviously a lot happening there, will. >> reporter: hi, alisyn. yes. vice president pence just met. historic meeting. she's the first of this family. he would love to see the united states meet with the north koreans even though north korea has said they have no intention of meeting with the u.s. we're expecting a press briefing in the coming hour or so. maybe we will get more information about that. vice president pence, though, continue to go put maximum

pressure on north korea. he just announced a wave of intent, new sanctions, unprecedented in their scope from the united states that will be implemented in the coming weeks. in response, a major show of force in pyongyang overnight. a passive parade. kim jong-un spoke about north korea becoming a nuclear power. this time we saw seven missiles that north korea says could make a direct hit anywhere in mainland united states. obviously the intention will be on the opening ceremony of the olympics. north korea making it very clear, chris, they are still intent on growing the nuclear arsenal despite the united states's vows. >> will ripley, thank you very much, as always. cnn has learned white house chief of staff john kelly and other top aides did know and for months, about domestic abuse

allegations against west wing aide rob porter. but they, including kelly, did nothing. former director of governor ethics walter shaub tweeted, so, john kelly often touted as white house adult, falsely smeared a congress come, tells us a failure to compromise on slavery caused the civil war, called dreamers lazy, and protected a wife beater. tell us again, press secretary, how we're never allowed to criticize a general. joining us now is walter shaub. he is now a cnn contributor. good to see you, sir. >> good morning. >> well, let's give clearance on -- we have cnn reporting that says they did know about these allegations. what is the ethical standard? porter says i didn't do this. there is some legal action that was taken by the women, the ex-wives. what is the standard for you

here? >> the standard provided for employees is that you're supposed to comply with the laws of the land. certainly beating your wife and then beating your next wife don't comply with the laws of the land. we also have the security clearance issue. and we can be sure that security clearance background investigators for the fbi went and spoke with both of these women and so there was never any doubt that this information was in the background report received. and of course they had to have known this was an issue because they weren't able to assign him to certain things as a result of not having a permanent security clearance. yet we hear that he continued to rise and rise. and you have kelly saying that he believes the man. well, what does kelly base that on? he looked deep into the man's soul and perceived innocence? i doubt kelly went out and interviewed the women themselves

and decided they were liars. he just decided that the white male employee working for him couldn't possibly beat his former wives because he said he didn't. well, that's ridiculous and shame on john kelly. >> you think there is no question that kelly knew or had reason to know about these allegations? >> absolutely. there's just no way he couldn't. i mean, they knew that the man didn't have a full-time security clearance. >> right. >> and this is one now -- >> you're assuming that's why he didn't have it, walter, just to make clear for people? you're assuming the reason he only had tfpl rather clearance is because of these allegations? >> well, i have been involved in security clearance cases before and had one myself. these are the types of things that the security clearance investigators look at. it is relevant to some of the factors they considered. so it is possible there were other reasons why he also didn't get a clearance. but this would certainly be one

of them. and i don't think we have any information suggesting he committed other miss deeds. >> what is your feeling about the ethical standard of contact being exited by the chief of staff? at that point you see this as part and parcel of some kind of case that you're making. >> well, let's remember that he smeared an african-american congresswoman making up a lie about her. he said that the civil war was the fault of the people who wouldn't compromise on their radical position of thinking that holding humans in bondage is unacceptable and isn't susceptible to compromise. calling immigrants lazy people. so i think we have a pattern here that there is a lot of people he doesn't believe in trust because they look a certain way. and then they are ready immediately without conducting any independent investigation, because i don't know how he

could have, to believe somebody who looks the right way. so i think we have a very disturbing pattern with the man who is really running the white house on a day-to-day basis and is the personal gatekeeper to the president. i don't know how much lower he could possibly sink. this is an absolute failure of any kind of ethics. and to the extent there is an ethical standard that says people comply with the law, have to comply with the law, he certainly fell below that in coughing for them and pushing them higher and higher into the power structure of the white house. >> the questions are out there. we will see what their replies are. so under the category of maybe good news, you were the last ethics czar. you have been out for, you know, over a half a year now. and they just named the new one. emery rounds. he was white house counsel for bush 43 back in 2009. he gets the five-year term.

how do you feel about that?i wo through the busch administration. and in fact, was instrumental in working with the general counsel at the time to hire emery rounds at the end of the bush administration because we had such good interactions with him. i didn't want -- i didn't want him to have to go back to his home state as a lot of people were leaving town at the aentd of an administration. we brought him in. he's a solid guy and a decent human being, committed his life to public service. i'm not going to hold him to the standard of being ale to get president trump to divest his conflicting financial interests because i wasn't able to achieve that but i think he represents somebody who will keep the agency running, hold it as close

to traditions as anyone can and make sure the day-to-day operations don't disintegrate they might if you have some political if they didn't know the government ethics program. >> let's see if this winds up on his plate. you give the stamp approval. and it is good to know good people around the president. and richard painter, it is good if you get through an interview with him without his biting off your head. and a holocaust denier is running for congress and he might win the republican primary. how is this happening? we'll speak to that candidate next. d clacking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ click, keyboard clacking ]

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horns of this corrupt and decadent two-party jew party system. >> arthur jones, that republican candidate for illinois third district joins us now. mr. jones, it is shocking to hear how vocally and unapologetic racist you are. are you a nazi? >> well for the past 15, 20 years, i've not had anything to do with any national socialist organization on a formal basis. >> but do you call yourself a nazi. >> i don't call myself a nazi. i call myself an american patriot and statesman. >> let me give viewers some details. so they could decide for themselves. you are going to neo-nazi rallys, we have pictures of you there and part of the white people's party, dress in nazi garb and celebrate hitler's

birthday. you're a nazi. >> well i do not belong to any formal national socialist organization any more and i haven't belonged to one since about 1990. okay. the only organization that i belong to is my own organization. and that is the america first committee. okay. >> yeah. you can call it whatever you want, mr. jones, but your website is filled with the most vile, rancid rhetoric i think i've ever -- >> i disagree with you. it is not violent and rancid. it is the truth. >> it is? >> there is nothing on the website that is not true. i personally put that stuff on there -- i personally picked off the articles on there because they're true. >> that's really troubling. >> people can't accept the truth. >> listen -- >> i can't help if you don't want to accept the truth. you use media, you've got absolutely nuts, you think that add ofl -- add ofl hitler is --

it is one man standing for the truth and the news immediate caw can't stand there. the democrats and republicans -- it is a cursed two party, jew party -- >> and the fact that you deny the holocaust. you are entitled to -- >> yes, i deny the holocaust. it is an extortion racket. pure and simple. >> you are entitled -- >> if you did any honest investigation of the holocaust, you would realize that it is nothing but an international extortion racket by the jews to terror orrize our enemies and suck us into a war, i'm not campaigning as a social national. >> but a republican on everybody's mind and that is to avoid war in the middle east. we need more wars -- no, we don't need more wars. >> and i understand -- and you call -- well i don't want to quote you. but here is the deal. you can have your own conspiracy theories, but you can't have your own facts.

>> not conspiracy theories. the fact is -- the control -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> perpetrated genocide and auschwitz existed and the normberg trial happened. >> it is poppycock. it is a scam. >> you were on the record and said you don't believe the holocaust. >> a holocaust survivor to get a special social security benefits. >> i'm glad you are pinning your position and prat forms on that piece of paper. >> bill lipinski acknowledged -- >> you have been doing this for decades. you are steeped in this kind of crazy crackpot theery. b but how do you think you will represent the people of illinois in this district -- you have 700,000 people in your district -- 7,000 of them are jews. how do you plan to serve them as a public service. >> the overwhelming majority are white christian patriots and i

might add black and latino christian patriots and we don't want any more wars minute middle east and the israeli lobby controls the congress of the united states and they sucked us into one war after another and that is what i'm running against. not the holocaust. i'm running -- i'm trying to prevent a holocaust in the middle east. >> a couple of things. the state republican party has completely disavowed you. they say the illinois republican party in our country -- let me speak. they have no place for nazis like our arthur jones. we strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy and for any public -- >> i fought for this country and i was in vietnam. >> mr. jones, i'm going to make my point. the national republican party has also done so. we condemn this candidate and his hateful rhetoric in the strongest possible terms. here is the good news -- you did serve in vietnam but something has happened since then. >> honorable. i wasn't a draft dodger like the community jews in the streets.

>> here is what everybody needs to know mr. jones, you have a long track record of losing. you lose virtually everything that you run for. you've run for congress and you've lost, for mayor, for alderman and we're not in the business of predicting the news. but i predict you will lose. >> consistency paid off. and i'm on the ballot for the november election. >> we're going to go. >> i keep running because i'm a better man than most of these people in washington because i don't -- >> we'll see what the voters think about that. we'll see if the voters think -- >> i believe in standing for the truth -- >> -- to represent them. arthur jones. we heard your opinion and we'll see what happens. chances are you'll go down in flames. we're following news. let's get right to it. >> i'm disappointed that chief of staff john kelly continues to say rob porter is a man of integrity and honor. >> the president and chief