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okay. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is friday, february 9th, 6:00 here in new york. chris is off. john berman joins me. it's been a wild night here in the u.s. >> we survived a grueling shutdown. >> yes, we did. we begin with breaking news for you. the house passing a massive best of my knowledge budget deal moments ago to reopen the federal government which did shut down six hours while americans were sleeping. this is the second time in just three weeks. a few hours ago the senate advanced a $400 billion bill, two-year, that gives a boost in defense spending and billions for domestic programs. major sticking points remain,
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including including what happens with immigration. a growing fallout over when white house officials knew about abuse allegations of a key aide, rob porter. hope hicks and don mcgann under scrutiny as well. did he know a lot about a lot of abuse? a lot about a little abuse? kelly knew something and now we know that mcgahn did as well. let's begin with phil mattingly. 36 straight hours, phil, of reporting. but this shutdown is over. >> reporter: yeah. you nailed it. just six hours of a shutdown but a lot to get to the end of the
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shutdown. on the house floor just last hour, basically everything was frozen. democrats withholding their votes. republicans, most of whom voted staring up at the vote wall seeing where everybody stood. nobody knowing what was going to happen next. democrats started signaling no. and then the yes votes. enough to push them over the edge. i have seen a lot of house votes. i watched many from the gallery. i have never seen anything that dramatic with something with such big stakes. if you look at the budget deal and why this got across the finish line, look at it. $165 billion in defense spending. $131 billion in non-defense spending. that is a big deal. more than $90 billion in disaster relief. that's for texas, florida, louisiana, puerto rico, the states ravaged by hurricanes in 2017. basically, guys, if you look across this deal, you are seeing
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the removal of several self-imposed crises that plagued congress for years at this point. a couple health care provisions. a 10-year extension to the children's health care. it wasn't easy to get to this point. the chamber we thought would be easy is the senate. the senate is why things shut down. why? listen to senator rand paul. >> the reason i'm here tonight is to put people on the spot. i want people to feel uncomfortable. i want them to answer people at home who said how come you were against obama's deficits and you are for republicans's deficits. isn't that the very definition of intellectual dishonesty. isn't that the very definition of hypocrisy? >> reporter: the senator laying out the concern of a lot of
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republicans. you saw conservative republicans in the house who voted against it and in the senate as well. the difference is rand paul refused to agree to a consent -- basically to allow a vote to happen earlier in the senate. john,s you know quite well, everything takes a long time in the senate until it doesn't. he wanted a single amendment vote that would eventually unravel the deal. can't have it. if we open it up for one, we open it up for everyone. because of that, everyone had to wait. it went past 1:00 a.m. for the first vote, 2:00 a.m. for the second vote, eventually getting to the finish line. the big issue is always going to be in the house. house democrats very clear. if daca was not addressed for them, they were concerned about their willingness to note on this. in theened they got it across the finish line. as i just recounted, it has not been an easy six hours nor a predictable one, guys.
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>> you are remarkably fresh for being awake for 36 hours and reporting for us. i'm fascinated by rand paul. is he seen as a thorn in the side or a hero? and how did all the people who yesterday who were so annoyed, the house freedom caucus, the democrats because it didn't include daca, how did they get on board? >> reporter: the outside conservative groups were furious about the spending, behind him 100% of the way. the house freedom caucus were very much aligned with senator paul. a couple of them hung out with him while he was holding things up. his colleagues wanted to get out of town thursday afternoon and ended up staying through midnight. a lot of them were questioning what was the actual purpose of this. even if he got an amendment that was going to fail, what policywise were you trying to change?
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he thought it was time to make a point, that it was hypocrisy, in his eyes. just because we saw it in the house floor is what happened with house democrats. thursday morning, in a closed door meeting, leader nancy pelosi said do not tip your hand. even if you like this bill, and a lot of them do, leader pelosi's staff was integral to this. she said keep our leverage. we want a firmer commitment from speaker ryan about how he is going to address the daca issue, immigration going forward. guys, throughout the day and into the morning, republicans didn't have a very clear view on where democrats actually were on this bill. in fact, the drama that i laid out that happened on the house floor, one senior gop aide told me they had no idea it was coming. it was dicey, awe high-wire act. in the end, the government is back open and potentially a number of crises are off the table. guys?
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>> phil, thank you for explaining all of those machinations. interesting. let's bring in cnn analysts john avlon and david gregory. you were listening to phil's report with raft attention. that was interesting to hear how nancy pelosi maneuvered this. we like this bill. don't say that. >> there was poker playing going on in the room. pelosi was walking a fine line. she liked the product. she didn't luke the process. she didn't want to give away her leverage. because democrats are still hoping to hold ryan's feet on the fire to daca. as folks wake up today, the government is open. that is progress. >> shutdown happens in the woods doesn't make a sound. i think that's the question. america wasn't affected by this. but 535 members of congress were hurt by all of this because they
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were up all night. it is hard to argue against rapid paul's point. he said republicans are hypocritical for fighting against democrats and spending. the answer is, yeah, kind of, right? >> i agree with that. there's no question. and i think rand paul is being consistent. and he's got principles in this area particularly that he cares about about the deficit. and he is going to speak out about it. look, there is a lot that is very interesting. what people have to walk away with is congress is doing its job. not only did they avert a real shutdown, which is a pretty low bar, but as phil was saying, they took some issues off the table by doing a two-year deal. we are living in were an era where we don't pass budgets anymore but a continuing resolution to put a band-aid on the business. now they did something a little more forward looking. a lot that progress if's in america should like whether it is disaster relief or other
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priorities. there is more funding for the military here as well. so there was real progress. democrats, as you have been talking about, nancy pelosi, how much leverage do they have to force an agreement on daca. they tried the hand with the last government shutdown. it didn't go well. now maybe there is a basis to have a real process to get something done to protect the dreamers. it is still going to be difficult. i think the white house and this president in particular wants a big immigration bill. and i still think, and i know a lot of republicans still think, that it is possible. a lot very interesting here. and the last point about the deficit, it is striking that the republican party has moved in this direction to now being more comfortable with deficits, which we have not seen in the past 10 years. >> no. but let's also be real about this. the republicans had deficits under reagan, under w when dick cheney famously said it doesn't
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matter. but their position now is deficits don't matter unless there is a democrat in the white house. this decade began with a decade of a freakout, they stormed the party angry about deficits in the face of a stimulus bill passed in a massive economic crisis. now in combination with the tax cuts and this spending bill is something far greater than that. we are looking at trillion dollar deficits. as rand paul pulled out, this is rank hypocrisy. >> and our colleagues say the republican party that you are describing is now dead. it is now a return to what it was under president bush, under wartime, afghanistan, and iraq. but let's remember the tea party revolution starts because of bush, because of what happened under his watch. it was just extended when obama became president. >> here's the number. let's put it up because it is
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staggering. $20.6 trillion. what does it mean? >> let that sink in. it is only going to get bigger. much bigger now. >> if you're a conservative who said excessive did have sit and debt is a power that brings down empires, you should give a damn. >> and the market obviously jittery overinflation. that can be very inflationary. stick around. the white house defending its handling of the rob porter abuse allegations. this much is clear. several top white house officials, they knew. they knew about the physical abuse allegations for months but did nothing about it. cnn's abby phillip live at the white house with the very latest. abby. >> reporter: good morning, john. the question is who knew what and when, specifically whether
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senior white house aides and chief of staff knew about the domestic abuse allegations against kelly's right-hand man rob porter. we are hearing president trump was not happy with how this played out in the public's sphere. it is is not going to cost kelly his job because right now there is simply no one to replace him. president trump reportedly dismayed about the unfolding scandal over the white house's handling of the abuse allegations involving awe former top aide rob porter. a source familiar with the president's recent on discussions with associates tell cnn that mr. trump remains uncertain about how to solve the problem. other sources tell cnn chief of staff john kelly's job is secure for now, despite mounting criticism. >> chief of staff john kelly, should he keep his job? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> reporter: kelly knew about the allegations against kelly for months. despite that, the white house
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insists kelly was not fully aware of the allegations until this week. >> you say fully aware. was he partially aware? >> i think we all became aware of the news reports that emerged wednesday morning and some of the graphic images. >> did he know any of this back in november? >> again, i'm not going to get into the specifics. >> reporter: a source tell cnn, don mcgahn was made aware of the abuse allegations in the fall after the fbi brought up the alleged abuse during a security clearance interview. the "washington post" reports that mcgahn knew in 2017 that the ex-wives were prepared to make damaging allegations against him. the white house conceding that the response to the controversy this week well short. >> i think it's fair to say that we all could have done better the last few days in dealing with this situation. >> reporter: a source tells cnn that the president was not happy with the admission despite
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expressing with his staff, including hope hicks who has been romantically involved with porter and helped craft kelly's initial statement. president trump spent the last few nights phoning friends about how to handle the controversy amid backlash over a number of issues, even confiding in his former chief of staff reince priebus who he fired and replaced with kelly. kelly doing damage control releasing this memo, we all take matters of domestic violence seriously. porter has denied the allegations as a smear campaign against him. porter's ex-wife said he asked her to release a statement about the abuse she detailed online. >> he was asking me to downplay it. he was asking me to emphasize more the relationship he and i have now as opposed to our
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marriage. >> reporter: we are still awaiting the president's decision about whether to declassify that democratic memo about fbi surveillance practices. that decision may come as soon as today. alisyn. >> there are too many questions for us to change the subject this morning. we will have more on the rob porter scandal. beyond porter, who is to blame? we discuss that next. ♪ for all the noses that stuff up around daisies. for all the eyes that get itchy and watery near pugs. for all the people who sneeze around dust. there's flonase sensimist allergy relief. it relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. it's more complete allergy relief.
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there have been reports about the chief of staff. he became fully aware of these allegations yesterday. i'm not getting into specifics regarding who may have known what piece of information because they were all part of an ongoing background check investigation. >> fully aware. deputy white house press secretary insisting that chief of staff john kelly only became fully aware of the abuse allegations of rob porter who a picture of the ex-wife with a bruised eye became public. joining us now former white house communications director for president obama jen socky and amanda carpenter. cnn has been reporting that folks in the white house knew for days.
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"washington post" reporting that as well. they have a graph which illustrates exactly what went on here. this has to do with white house counsel don mcgahn. in january 2017, when mcgahn learned of the allegations he wanted port tore stay because he saw the harvard law-trained capitol hill veteran as a steadiy, professional voice for the white house, according to people familiar with the matter. his view didn't change in june when the fbi flagged it. that is four times. that is white house counsel. the legal watch dog here, amman tkafplt and he did nothing. >> yeah. the takeaway here is beating your wife is not disqualifying to work in the white house. and should we be surprised? no. it is a job requirement to be able to go and defend a man who
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talked about sexual assault on the "access hollywood" tapes. this is a job qualification to be a professional spokesperson of the republican party to go and defend roy moore. how much more evidence do we need that the head of the republican party, donald trump, does not give a wit about the abuse of women. this comes from the top. i mean, i feel like we dance around all of these subjects. and to be able to talk about this in an honest way requires talking about uncomfortable things, like the rape allegation from his first wife. there's a pattern here. because the subjects are so uncomfortable, i think we don't talk about them and they continue to tpft fester. >> i hear you, amanda.
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when they say they became fully aware, jen, it means they saw the photograph. >> once they saw it with their own eyes, then they had to do something about it as opposed to when the women were just telling the fbi about it on or telling don mcgahn about it or posting blog posts about it. then they could not believe it. >> that's exactly right, alisyn. it is such an important point. as we have learned this morning, and as cnn has been reporting the last 24 hours, they knew more earlier than they knitted they knew. but the reality comes back or the most troubling piece comes back to the fact that they knew of domestic abuse allegations more than a year ago. we are talking about and defending this by qualifying it and saying, well, these occurred, these reported abuses occurred before he served in the white house. or he we didn't know they were as bad as we now know they are because of the photos. and it comes down to a question of what level of domestic abuse
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is acceptable? what timeline of domestic abuse is acceptable. and should any person who has been accused of domestic abuse in any timeline be serving in the white house in any capacity? they clearly knew all the details of the past 48 hours, including the photos, and they still made a decision to not only not fire him but to defend his honesty and integrity repeatedly over the -- >> even john kelly. >> even john kelly, who was supposed to be cleaning it up, made a statement that domestic abuse is terrible, and then went on to defend rob porter. the handling has been not just poor communications skill. it has been so upsetting and angering in the sense that they have justified and validated a domestic abuser as somebody who can serve in the white house. >> raj shaab gave us the first
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briefing yesterday. it was an impossible job to field some of these questions. listen to what he said, how he described the last 48 hours of the white house response. >> i think it's fair to say that we all could have done better the last few days. >> first of all, yes. second of all, amanda carpenter, our panel is reporting that the president was upset that raj shah went out and said it publicly, went out and admitted they could have done better. i'm surprised given there has been other reporting and spin that the president is very concerned and upset about these abuse allegations and only found out recently. only raj shah saying they could have done better. >> maybe better than that, they could be better. that's the problem. this comes from the top. they constantly turn a blind eye to ethical questions, to uncomfortable situations, to anything that could possibly make them look bad.
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and i think we have every right to ask, given this information, what in the world is going on in that white house? what is going on with hope hicks? it is not normal in the white house to be able to take a colleague in the open. they're adults. can she date him? yes. is it ethical to date a colleague in the white house? no. is it ethical for the president to rely on his daughter and son-in-law as chief advisers? of course night. it is so arrive with weird relationships that wouldn't meet the standard in any other white house. and by the way, what is going on with melania? she only speaks to americans through their fashion choices. there is some craziness going on. we don't know everything that is happening, but it is clearly not on the up and up. >> we also deserve to know
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what's happening, actually. when raj shah says i can't get into the specifics, jim acosta has reported he didn't want to give a tick-tock when people knew what because it is damning. their salaries are paid by t taxpayers. why aren't they engaging in transparency? >> when he said they could have been better he means how they put out communications statements. he means they had to go out and clean up earlier statements that they had done. and that is simply just not acceptable. as amanda said, they could be better and should be better. this is not how they are handling as a communications team. but you're right, we deserve to know more. their story on the tick-tock has had awe hole a mile wide from the beginning. a typical way the process works is the fbi would indicate to the
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doj, who would then indicate to the white house counsel, even as the process is ongoing, if there are major flags. clearly we learned this morning that's exact lu what happened. and don mcgahn has known for over a year. and beyond that, it's just not believable that the white house chief of staff that the president, in my view, despite the reporting, didn't know anything about this. so it comes back to the point you raised earlier about the photos being public. what changed? photos became public. and they were forced to take some action. even that action really didn't pass the bar. >> last night anderson cooper, porter's ex-wife said he will go forward and abuse women, even hope hicks. this is a four-alarm fire to have had someone in this position where he could potentially act vindictive, abusive towards women in this massive position of power that he enjoys.
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he attempted to manipulate her story from the white house so it wouldn't hurt him, to change her truth. this is something that all hands on deck situation we should be looking at. >> i'm so glad you brought that up. that was a fascinating interview. this is a compulsion. unless you get treatment, you don't change that kind of violent behavior. we have seen tons of examples and patterns of it. so her warning to hope hicks is really important. amanda, jen, thank you very much. the winter games officially under way in south korea. we will take you there for the pageantry and the protests next. with expedia, one click gives you access to discounts
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"bleacher report". >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. the u.s. delegation led by vice president mike pence. the dreams becoming awe reality for over 90 nations as they walk to the stadium here in pyeongchang. the temperatures expected to feel like they're in their 20s. preparations were made. every one of the 40,000 gets a blanket, knit cap, seat warmer. it will be cold. for most of the athletes, it will be surreal. team usa's freestyle skier to find out what these were like. >> it takes your breath away. you walk out. it is a massive stadium. everyone is screaming. there's lights flashing. usa is being chanted. everyone is wearing beautiful matching opening ceremony outfits that ralph lauren made. >> reporter: the friends at ralph lauren allowed us to show
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the sister of the north korean leader arrived on a private plane that landed at the airport. she shook hands with moon jae-in. they have a lunch scheduled together saturday. meanwhile, they are most likely in the stadium behind me where this light show is taking place among 40,000 other plus spectators there also believed to be the u.s. vice president mike pence who, from what we understand, has not met face-to-face with the north koreans thus far. not everybody is happy with this olympic diplomacy here in south korea. there have been consistent noisy, usually quite small protests. you may be able to hear them off camera. this loud speaker in the background. some south koreans view the invitation to north korea as appeasement to a country that was firing missiles just last november. but, again, the government is calling this the peace games.
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they hope that this will be a step towards reducing tensions here on the korean peninsula. alisyn? >> yes, ivan, we can hear the loud speaker and that pro test. thank you for giving us the all. so omarosa is talking. >> i was haunted by tweets every single day. like what is he going to do next? >> what also did "the apprentice" star whisper about her time in the white house? we have the details next. ♪ when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums something we all think about as we head into retirement. it's why brighthouse financial is committed to help protect what you've earned and ensure it lasts. introducing shield annuities,
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don't give her access. don't let her talk to him. ivanka's there, jared's there. >> she was whispering -- >> can i read that sentence again. i find that to be stunning. >> that was former white house aide and reality tv star omarosa whispering about her time in the white house on select big brother. >> sit happening. we're doing this. the reason we're doing this is because omarosa resigned amid the tense relationship between she and chief of staff john kelly. part of why this is fascinating is because omarosa is a truth teller. she is out of the white house and she's talking about what it was like in there. she said she lived in fear.
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she was haunted by the tweets that would come out every day. >> you know, i think we can stick to real life in the white house and have so much to scrutinize without drifting into fantasy island land. >> she can speak more openly than people who are still there. >> well, yeah. i think this is so ridiculous that this is part of, you know, the landscape of the white house who is a reality star now in a reality show speaking about the white house. maybe it's puffed up. i have no idea. it is so ridiculous it is hard to take seriously. it is part of a revolving door drama about the white house, about the personalities involved that we don't know where the reality star stuff begins and ends. >> hang on. let me see your ridiculous, david gregory, and raise you one
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absurd which is at the white house briefing yesterday the most rehearsed line, the most prepared line in the entire briefing was the answer to the omarosa question. listen. >> omarosa was fired three times on the apprentice. and this is the fourth time we let her go. she had limited contact with the president while here. she has no contact now. >> the white house is now a cast member of celebrity big brother. >> yes. we are through the looking glass. this is perfect. this is a reality show president, running a reality show administration getting dished on on a reality show. in this she said, first of all, this isn't going to end well. and the other thing is she would never in a million years vote for trump again. now, look, let's put it through a prism of normalcy at the risk of being naive. people who sevened in the white house and have been friends with
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the president rarely will say that was the biggest mistake of my life and i'm afraid for the country. >> i will say she said that in an interview or something on "60 minutes". >> that was truly incredible. >> the point is it would be news if she said that to anyone. the fact that it happened on big brother. >> it is weird but news. >> it is weird news. >> that's a great point. listen, for your viewing pleasure, david gregory, since you think this is to ridiculous it's redonkulous, here is how stephen colbert saw it. >> oh, really? oh, really. you were haunted? out here it's been the trumpityville horror. also, omarosa, pro tip. when you're on a reality show, whispering doesn't really work. trump can still hear you.
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>> i covered the o.j. simpson trials. and kato kaelin going off and having his television career afterward. it feels similar. it's pathetic. i know we're kind of beyond, you know, the norms of washington and the white house. >> you think? >> what gave you that impression, david? >> this takes it to a new level. to have at the white house podium when there are serious controversies to be dealt with how they are handling the issue of rob porter to say as a point of reference of credibility, let's remember she was fired from the apprentice. let's take note of that. >> the white house really wanted to get the sound bite of omarosa right. >> you should see how deeply uncomfortable david gregory is. >> hey, don't make me -- i'm not trying to be overly prudish about this. >> that's good because i have
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five more questions for you. >> when we come back, david gregory and big brother, much more. >> i've always wondered whether on soap operas and reality tv, why is there so much whispering going in? isn't he worried people won't hear them? >> we just scratched the surface. >> we will have to cut it off, david. i'm sorry. anxiety on wall street which played second tpeuldz to omarosa fiddle to omarosa, we will discuss next.
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so the dow suffered its two largest point drops in history this week. the market is now in correction territory with the dow down 10% from its record high. it shed 1,033 points yesterday. overnight, asian stocks closed down sharply with european markets also lower. right now dow futures are down slightly. all right. more than 1,000 u.s. flights canceled as a huge snowstorm
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>> can winter be over now? >> not yet. >> all right. thank you. we'll check back. president trump still deciding whether to release that democratic rebuttal memo to the devin nunes memo. so will it come out today? if so, what happens? we discuss that next. i wanted to turn everything i love about you into one thing you'll love forever. the jared valentine's day diamond event. save up to $1,000 off any diamond when you buy her setting at jared. and let our expert jewelers help you find or create the one ring that could only come from you and only be for her. only at jared. at at&t, buy one iphone 8 and get one on us. that's one for you, and one for... your bbf your backup singer. your frenemy
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he can threaten an unstable dictator armed with nuclear weapons. he can go into a rage and enter the nuclear launch codes. how bad does it have to get before congress does something?
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as the white house faces growing questions about how top officials handled the rob porter domestic abuse scandal, president trump now weighing whether to declassify the democratic rebuttal to the republican memo which alleges fbi surveillance abuses. joining us now to discuss is chief cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin, executive producer of the new cnn original series, the radical story of patty hurst which we will talk about, rest assured, in just a minute. first of all, jeffrey, if the release of a democratic memo which i think in some ways will
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indict the administration and republicans in congress might be a welcomed distraction from this white house from a scandal inside having to do with domestic abuse. >> it shows how low things have sunk. you know, i think the nunes memo is such a complicated story, frankly, that ordinary civilians have a hard time following. i suspect most people have made up their mind to the extent they have an opinion about this story at all. it has turned into a partisan food fight. the democrats's memo -- their point has been made already. i expect some version of this memo will be declassified, although, you know, i wouldn't be surprised if the fbi and the other intelligence agencies demanded some sort of redactions. >> today is the day. isn't this the deadline? >> the deadline, yes. >> and i agree this hypercharged news cycle moves so fast that it is almost an afterthought. if it comes out today, who knows
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what cover it will get. >> the democrats are already made their arguments about the whole subject. so the memo itself, people will read it, those who are interested. but i think this has been the story this past trump year. stories that were, you know, explosive, big. remember he said obama wiretapped me. what? that was a huge story we spent months on. >> that is about the memo and the rebuttal. that is the heart of this. >> yeah, i know. but we're -- i will say -- >> the republican memo finally came out, we did learn some things. we did learn a few items as possible. we will learn things when the democratic memo comes out. these abuse allegations about a key white house aide. we have been talking about the honesty issue frankly inside the white house and the coverup and how they treat domestic abuse. but there is a security issue
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here, a fundamental security issue. the gate keeper of paper to the president could have been compromised. >> we talk about security clearances as if it is some sort of box just to check. there is a reason people have to get security clearances, especially if you have access to such incredibly important classified information which is can you be blackmailed. and domestic violence is exactly the kind of thing you could be blackmailed. if someone said to porter, look, we are going to expose that you had beaten up two wives or give us this classified information, that's a scary thing. >> so then why was he able to function in the white house without full security clearance? >> because he had powerful patrons who didn't care about domestic violence, period. >> forget the domestic violence, they can still operate right next to the president? >> that's why we have this system of interim security clearances. you know, it is understandable
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that on january 20th, 2017, everybody cannot have a security clearance. but here we are more than a year lat later. and this is why -- you know, i had a security clearance for a while when i worked on the iran contra investigation many years ago. it's a complicated, lengthy process. but at some point you have to decide whether people get it or not. >> yes. when questions are raised about it, you have to decide if you are going to pay attention to those. >> and you have to decide what matters. >> from legal analyst jeffrey toobin to producer jeffrey toobin. let me just play a little of "the radical story of patty hearst". >> this became a media frenzy right off the bat. >> the hostage was not just
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patricia hearst, the whole media was. this one-line story about an heiress who had been kidnapped by crazy revolutionaries in the '60s changed in the blink of an eye. >> patty hearst had her story and access to the press. and she used it like a master. >> it's uncomfortable, almost creepy how much i liked your book on patty hearst. >> i'm not uncomfortable. >> it is a story about the '70s, about america. it's a remarkable drama that i think people largely forgot about this woman. >> it is about the '70s, this incredible period of terrorism. 1,000 political bombings a year in the united states. just think about that alone. but it is also a mystery about one woman. what side was she on? was she coerced?
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sunday night, two hours, 9:00. and then two more sundays for two hours. so six hours altogether. and it's really good, if i do say so myself. >> it sounds really juicy. jeffrey, thank you. can't wait to see it. thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn talk is next. for u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. this is cnn breaking news. good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day". chris is off. john berman joins me. what a night. it has been a roller coaster. >> we had a shutdown. >> we did have a shutdown. if you are just breaking up, while you were sleeping the federal government shutdown. the house voted to reopen the government. it was shut down for about seven hours. it is still awaiting president trump's signature. both chambers are now advancing this two-year, $400 billion bill that gives republicans a big boost in defense spending and democrats billions for domestic programs. but there are major

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