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afternoon protest in seoul seoul and these people are angry about what is going on. >> vice president pence came here calling for mexico pressure and maximum isolation of neither neither and instead the north korean delegation was in the vip box with him. break ing news this morning. three people are dead and four injured after a sight-seeing helicopter crashed in the grand canyon. >> this is what we know. local officials had to call the military in to get help with this rescue because it's dark. it's windy. it's rocky terrain where they are and that is really making things difficult for them. we will have more on this breaking news for you in a few minutes. meanwhile, democrats are demanding answers as the white house faces questions over the handling of two staffers accused of domestic abuse. >> a dozen democratic senators have sent a letter to chief of staff john kelly and white house counsel don mcgahn.
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they want to know why the staffers were allowed to cope their jobs until this week. . there are national secure imprixs. the letter asks should rob porter have been handling classified information about intimidate clearance? >> president trump appeared to continue defending his now fermer staffers thfer former staffers saying the following on twitter. after that an attempt for the pivot to the president to the ongoing fight over immigration. >> joining us live from washington is cnn correspondent kristin holmes. so many questions and now democrats are trying to get answers to those. this white house is still in cleanup mode. >> good morning. that is absolutely right. they are a white house in turmoil which we have seen a lot in the past year. but that pivot to immigration you mention that and likely because of the outrage sparked by the first tweet opinion this
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has really become a pattern for president trump. he blames not the people conv conveying the crime but the s t victim in a sense here. people took issue with two parts of this tweet. one being due process. we know that both of porter's ex-wives did contact the fbi and the other being these victims. there is no mention either when president trump reacted to the firing the first time or the resignation excuse me, the first time or in this tweet. take a listen to what a republican congressman had to say did that. >> there has to be a zero tolerance toward that type of domestic vils that is discussed in these two situations. that is very clear. of course, we should be very sympathetic and empathetic to the victims and to the women who have been violated here subject of violence. that said, i think it's important for the president to acknowledge the victims.
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>> reporter: that was a republican congressman. now you have this letter from 12 democratic senators. they want to know when white house counsel don mcgahn knew and chief of staff kelly knew. was porter handling documents without a security clearance and did porter tell the security clearance office here, the fbi on this background check that he had these allegations? this is what they are asking. i want to run down a time line what we know from white house producer. he said back in january or february of 2017, porter asked don mcgahn with back check process and said his ex-wives may provide potentially damaging information and porter's wives are interviewed by the fbi in the same time frame and describe the details of their marriages and in the spring the fbi provides a preliminary report including detailed reports to
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the white house security office. in the fall of 2017, porter is interviewed by the fbi and these domestic issues are brought up. he provides more detail and he tells mcgahg about what his ex-wives are claiming that he denies he has done any of this. this goes on and on. we know, obviously, in the recent weeks porter's ex-girlfriend called mcgahn to express his romantic relationship with hope hicks. we also know in the fall of this year, chief of staff john kelly was made aware of these allegations and of the fact it was hindering his security clearance process. that is the information we are told from our sources at the white house. this is clearly causing major turmoil inside of the white house. >> all of the specifics that the white house did not want to get into late last week, we will see if they answer those questions from the democratic senators. kristen holmes in washington for us, thank you. defense of a man accused of abuse or harassment and not a
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word about the victims. you just heard it there. we have heard this before. because there seems to be a bit of a pattern here. remember what he said about his former campaign leader corey allow wen -- allowen do you ski >> he is has four beautiful kids and they are destroying that man over nothing. tu a look at that tape and she is grabbing me. maybe i should press charges against her. she is not supposed to be grabbing me. >> here is what he said about former fox news chief roger ailes after tehe was accused of xul harassment. >> i can tell you about the women that are complaining, he has done so much to help them. >> bill o'reilly also accused of sexual harassment. >> he is a person i know well. he is a good person. i think he may --, you know, i
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think he shouldn't have settled. i don't think bill would do anything wrong. >> alabama senate candidate roy moore accused of pursuing teenagers and the president endorsed him. >> if you look at the things happened over the last 48 hours he totally denies it. he says it didn't happen and you have to listen to him also. >> and then the president, himself, as a candidate, he was accused by multiple women of sexual harassment and assault and here is what he said about his own accusers. >> they just come out, some are doing it for probably a little fame. they get some free fame. it's a total setup. oh, i was with donald trump in 1980! i was sitting with him on an airplane! and he went after me on the plane! yeah, i'm going to go after you. believe me. she would not be my first
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choice, that, i can tell you. >> sarah westwood and julian zeleny are here to talk about this. you know, he brought up due process yesterday. certainly that is something everybody has afforded, no doubt about it. domestic violence is happening to people who may be watching right now. they are living with it. and then could be very well in his base. there is no socioacademic parameter where domestic violence stops. with that said, you know, there may be no proof that something happened at one point but there is no proof that it did not happen in the early stages of this. so is there a political repercussion, sarah, for the president dismissing allegations immediately? >> absolutely. because due process typically applies to a court of law and we are not talking about a court of law. we are talking about the privilege of getting to work for
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the president of the united states. is there a higher standard for that than when a jury convicts someone of a crime. i think he sort of is conflating two different processes here. once again, president trump's messaging is out of sync with the rest of his white house. the rest of his white house has been quite contrite for how this played out. they admitted perhaps for the first time how they mishandled the initial response to what was going on and everyone else seems to be rushing to apologize and cover up what was a devastating mistake for the west wing, except for president trump who seems to remain defiant in criticism of this decision. it makes the white house look like they don't have a handle on their communication surrounding this disaster and it makes president trump look unsympathetic to rob porter's wives. >> i want to listen to representative charles dent here who is a republican. here is what he had to say about what you're referring to, sarah,
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the larger question here, perhaps. >> i saw this during the michael flynn case when there were red flags raised at the time, and those red flags were either ignored or just not seen by those who should have seen them. so i think, really, that is the bigger question. they have to do a much stronger job of vetting people. >> julian, is there any indication what the white house policy is on hiring someone who may have some sort of violent past? >> well, we don't know what the policy is but this case suggests this is not front and center of the kind of concerns that they have with personnel. and i think what you are suggesting and showed with that video, there is a clear and consistent pattern from the president at least where when it comes to his own inner circle and when it comes to himself, he doesn't take these very seriously. these kinds of accusations. so i think this is exactly the question the senators want to ask, but the answer might be
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pretty apparent from the case. >> sarah, any indication to, based on what representative dent said, that representative dent said, they were either ignored or they weren't seen by those who should have seen them? does there seem to be a deficiency in what they know about who they are allowing into the white house? >> i think the white house was in a really difficult position around the time of the transition and that position hasn't necessarily changed very much now in that a lot of the republican establishment didn't want to be associated with president trump during the campaign or even after his victory in the election, so they struggled to find qualified candidates to find the high level positions and so many high level working in washington and signed letters and denouncing president trump's candidacy and campaigned against him so they had to accept people maybe underqualified for these jobs who wouldn't pass a traditional vetteding process because they
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just needed these jobs filled by relatively competent people so it seems times again they are willing to look past the sorts of things in people's backgrounds that would typically disqualify them from white house jobs because they just needed people to work in the white house. >> julian, in this democratic letter, remember, there are also -- they are also contending this is a national security issue because rob porter did have temporary security clearance at the time. is that an issue for national security? >> well, it is an issue. he shouldn't have been handling that kind of material. this is an issue that has now emerged in other cases as well. and it might be a way for the senators to elevate this from a question of vetting and a question of choice of personnel to a national security issue. but, look. let's also remember it's not clear this is simply a vetting problem. president trump has been the voice of the white male backlash and in some ways this is
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entirely predictable. his response, his decision perhaps months ago not to take this as a serious issue. and this is the personal and political strategy he has pursued for a long time. so in the end, it's not as surprising as some people might think. >> and real quickly, immigration, obviously, is something that is going to be -- is something that is on the forefront. democrats want it taken care of. the president tweeted that he has identified three major priorities for his immigration policy, fully securing the border and ending chain migration and cancellinging the vaes a lottery and touting congress has to protect immigration and americans. the question is he didn't say when. sarah, any idea when that conversation is coming up in congress? >> there are already talks in congress and they don't seem to be making progress. you have some republicans thinking they can only get to two of the priorities from president trump's original four
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pillared plan that he laid out in the state of the union and the two pillars being protecting dreamers and securing the border. the other two things, visa lottery and chain migration are things that will be very difficult for congress to get to because democrats and republicans are so far apart. >> jeff flake, though, had voted for the tax plan because he said he was assured that daca would come to the table. julian, i have five seconds. what do you say to that? >> well, they are going to insist on daca, the democrats, and, in change, they have to give two or three of the pillars he wants and that is what this video is. this is an appeal to hard line restrictionists and a demand in exchange for daca. you're hearing the debate in front of us. >> sarah westwood and julian zeleny, we appreciate you so much. thank you. >> thank you. watch "state of the union" with jake tapper today. white house staffer kelly aanne
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conway will be on the jo along with jeh johnson. three people are killed in the grand canyon when a sightseeing helicopter went down and caught fire. the rescue efforts that are helping now to save those injured survivors. critics are raising suspicions over trump's hefty 95 million dollar mansion sale to a russian back in 2008. we are going to have the former director of government ethics on to discuss. the u.s. takes home its first gold in the winter olympic games. >> coy wire is in pyeongchang with more on snowboarding sensati sensation. >> i was right there among the friends and family members of the freckled faced kid. 5'5" and larger than life. what an incredible story and i'll try to help take you there in a bit on "new day." how's it ? well... we had a vacation early in our marriage that kinda put us in a hole. go someplace exotic? yeah, bermuda.
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arizona. three people died and four injured after a sightseeing helicopter crashed in the grand canyon. >> local police have called in the military to help rescue the survivors. the terrain is very rocky and you can probably hear how strong the winds are there. cnn's polo sandoval joins us now. the darkness at this hour is causing a problem to try to get to those who survived. >> reporter: absolutely. it is the middle of the night here. a rural part of the grand can jon and difficult to access there. starting with those survivors. four of the seven people who were aboard that sightseeing helicopter, you mentioned the weather and the terrain, it is rocky and rugged. very difficult to access and to evacuate and air-lift the four people, according to the tribal police there, at least those four patients are described as being level one trauma patients. this tour operated by papi describing itself as one of the
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largest sightseeing company in the world on its site there. a helicopter that was being operated was manufactured by airbus helicopters and e c-130 is transport up to eight people and popular in the law enforcement and tourism industry. the national transportation safety board going to be called in to investigate this crash as they try to come up with a cause of this deadly chopper crash. we did look through ntsb record and they showed there was a helicopter accident that involved this company back in 2001 and that resulted in six dead and one injured. the ultimate investigation they are revealing that incident was pilot error, so it will be interesting to see what comes out with this investigation. again, the crash took place yesterday evening. a sightseeing helicopter resulting in the death of several people. four survivors of the seven people aboard this helicopter. i can tell it was one pilot and
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six passengers so a total of seven people that were aboard this sightseeing tour in the grand canyon. we understand they have a support or assist that arrived on the scene but the main issue here is simply air-lifting these survivors from the scene. >> polo sandoval, thank you for the update and we will keep you apprised what we learn throughout the morning. melee here of angry crowds. is this is the streets of south korea as the north korean's sister makes a push for friendlier ties between the two countries. we will have details on what happened here in a moment. why the president's sale of a mansion to a russia billionaire is under more scrutiny this morning. ly passi-- i really want to help. i was on my way out of this life. there are patients out there that don't have a lot of time.
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welcome back. good to have you here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. a democratic senator is raising questions over president trump's palm beach mansion sale to a russian billionaire in 2008. a senator wants the treasury department to hand over records of a 95 million dollar real estate deal. >> widen claims the property's appraisal value fell 30 million short of the sale price. here is cnn's pamela brown. >> have you had any dealings with the russians? >> i've done a lot of business with the russians. >> reporter: the most expensive home ever sold in america. >> in 2008 at the height of the u.s. housing collapse, trump made a record breaking deal with a russian oligarch known as dmitry rybolovle verks.
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>> i sold it for a hundred million dollars and i sold it to a russian. >> mr. donald j. trump! >> when according to mcclatchy news his private plane was spotted in two u.s. cities where trump was campaigning. concord, north carolina, and las vegas, nevada. >> it certainly looks suspicious that we have this leading russian oligarch bird dogging our president on the campaign trail. >> joining us now to discuss is walter schwab, a cnn contribu r contributor. >> walter, thank you so much for being with us. first and foremost, if president trump was then a citizen, how much does this sale matter when it happened? >> well, let's remember that the whitewater investigation, which dominated much of the clinton
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presidency, was similar a land deal that occurred a long time before they came into government. so it really seems to me that this is similar. it's long since been established, the president, that what happened prior to coming in is now fair game. and one of the concerns about real estate transactions is that they are often a cover for money laundering. in fact, a group called global witness issued a report picked up by reuters this fall about suspicions regarding the types of deals that trump's businesses have been involved in, at least in terms of who they have dealt with, rather than necessarily things they have done themselves. so you have a partner here that people are concerned about these transaction, even those this transaction happened before he came into the presidency, this is the first president in modern history who has kept all of his conflicting financial interests. to is raises a question, what else don't we know? >> so senator widen sent this
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three-page letter here to the secretary of the treasury steve mnuchin and he is asking for answers by march 9th one of the issues you raised when you resigned, i believe back in july, was the issue of just simple disclosure. what is your degree of confidence that they will get the answers, that senator widen will get the answers he is looking for? >> well, you know, it's interesting. march 9th is a fairly generous deadline when the chairman of my oversight committee used to send us letters while i was at the office of government ethics and we were lucky to get two weeks out of them to respond. that may be a an indication he doubts whether he is going to get a response because this administration has broken with the tradition of responding to minority members of congress, among many other traditions that they have broken. >> the fact the president has been in his position for over a year now, would you be surprised, however, if none of
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this had already been found out? certainly people are looking very closely at this president. if there had been any other issue, as you had mentioned, previously there is suspicion of money laundering in situations like this concerning real estate? wouldn't something like that have come up already? >> so, in fact, this one did come up. there was a lot of reporting last spring in 2017 about this particular sale and there was a lot of speculation at the time that the sale price was bizarre, given that the economy was in free-fall and people thought it was academic armageddon. the thing i think that concernable in widen's memo is a note of interest it hasn't been investigated yesterday and a problem with this congress not conducting oversight over the white house and many seem to be putting party before country, so i think it's long overdue that this particular transaction be looked into. >> let me ask you about the
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fifth resignation from this administration in just the last several days. heath hall, acting administrator for the federal railroad administration, he was the president's appointed deputy in june. he resigned while working in prist and you wi private consultation in mississippi. is this, from your view, a single unethical conflict here or do you see what you described in the white house spreading and becoming more pervasive throughout the government? >> yeah. this is a cancer that has metastasized and done it faster than i would have predicted. back before the president was inaugurated i thought his ethics that led to norm would cause
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problems. i didn't think it would happen this fast. when you add up the resignations and firings, it's stunning how they are falling like, you know, flies. i guess that is a bit of a mixed metaphor there. but it's shocking if this individual is continuing to work after he was in government. and he may have some ongoing problems because he had financial disclosure requirements and i'd like to see whether he disclosed all of this income from these outside work, if any, on his financial disclosure forms and there is also a statutory limit on the amount of outside earned income, somebody at his level can earn that comes with civil penalties if you violate it. so this is actually quite serious stuff and unheard of. it is truly a bizarre thing for him to have done. one of the problems, it's not a senate confirmed position so it doesn't go through the office of
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government ethics and it's a small agency, which means that his own employees who are ethics officials, who are responsible for keeping him in line, and apparently he wasn't going to be kept in line by anyone. >> so i want to know if you can clarify something for me. according to our reporting, he was the acting administrator. president trump had actually nominated rod betorey but the nomination has been installed since july because it needs senate confirmation and at this point, this is another one of those positions where there is no permanent director in it. can you clarify that for me? as victor said, there have been five resignations the past five days starting with rob porter. >> yes. >> with that said, how effective can these departments be with all of these resignations that keep coming up? >> sorry there. i didn't hear the part about five days. >> no, that's all right. >> yeah, no. this is concerning.
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this is a significant problem. i think in the state department in particular, the people at the top, the very few people at the top are getting very lonely because there is so many vacant positions. and that is rampant throughout the government in this administration. at one point i heard talk out of the administration publicly where they were saying maybe they don't need to fill these positions, which is just ignorant, because you need top personnel to carry out your policies. and that is important because if you do have a political agenda, which hopefully, he has one, people voted for him, he is going to need people who are like minded in those positions running them. and then, you know, the office of government ethics where i work just recently had a nominee and i do have to say it's a particularly good one. i'll give them credit for that. so they do know how to do the job when they want. i think don mcgahn and the white house counsel office have been focused on stacking the judiciary with judges that are
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the south of south korea, the home of the olympic games. despite an invitation to visit south korea from kim jong-un. >> the north korean's sister has been trying to make a connection with south korea. some south koreans are not hopeful about peaceful ties. >> i upset. i want america demolished. >> vice president for research and policy at the charles coke institute is with us. >> kim yo-jong is in the spotlight at the moment. what is your grade for her performance, her job performance there in south korea? >> reporter: well, i think it's smart. it's good politics, right sunny
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is junk and can present a different face for north korea but she is an enabler of a bad regime. >> do you think south korea should accept the invitation she has given? >> i think diplomacy, backed by deterrence is smart here, especially because the military options are not very good. if you think about it, the united states has pursued a lot of policies around the globe that really haven't been working when we have used the military first and i think it's useful to really open up this motion of having diplomacy and secretary tillerson talked about this last year about having diplomacy without preconditions. i think that is smart politics on our side. >> let me get you to respond to something the vice president mike pence said. there is no daylight between the united states, the republic of korea, and japan on the need to continue to isolate north korea until they abandon their floor
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ballist nuclear ballistic missile program. do you agree there is no daylight in that alliance? >> there when is daylight or not i think it will be bumpy ahead. the united states wants denuclearization of north korea and while the kim regime in north korea think nukes are their trump card and something essential to their regime after what they saw in libya and ukraine. as long as we insist that we want these gone, things are going to be bumpy and so, again, that is where i think we need to think about other options, especially since deterrence can make us safe and let's use diplomacy, i think, so get, you know, further interests satisfied on our end. >> is there anything additional to south korea becoming closer to north korea in the sense of,
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you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer kind of context? >> yeah. again, think that that diplomacy is necessary, given that the military options are so undesirable, especially for south korea that would face the brunt of the problems if a war or conflict started on the korean peninsula and i think we need realism than we are going to isolate them and not work toward a solution to this problem. >> you brought up the military and south korea. these military exercises between the u.s. and south korea, three weeks ago before the opening ceremony of the games, they were paused for a moment and u.s. defense said they will begin immediately after the paralympics end in south korea. now that we are seeing this invitation coming from north korea, this acceptance to possibly go to pyeongchang, do you believe those games will resume -- i mean, those
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exercises will resume immediately after the olympics. >> an old roman saying if you want peace you have to prepare for war and i think that is smart politics, too. that is realism. but, again, we have to make sure we are not doing the kind of things that harm our interests, particularly because what we really need to do is simply deter north korea. that is what we have done with evil regimes before if you think how we dealt with china. this is a place that killed millions of its citizens and still to approach the united states that kept us safe and relied on deterrence and didn't rely on bloody nose strike that could unleash the dogs of war. >> will ruger, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. stay in south korea. the u.s. has won its first gold medal of the winter games. >> coy wire witnessed it all. all righty, coy. how was it? >> reporter: with the windchill, it is negative 5 here in pyeongchang. i got this t-shirt. i wet it and put it outside.
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home? well, teenager. >> good morning. 17-year-old red gerard or rdo as his family was chapting around me. 116-pound frekled face kid the youngest american male since 1924 to become an olympic champ. he dazzled the judges to take gold. i was amongst about 20 of his friends and family who traveled halfway around the world to be there and they absolutely interrupted in tears and d disbelief. he picked up his little sister and said i love you, ash. he didn't know how big the becomes were going in but now he told me he gets it. this journey has been all about the people he loves most. >> i kind of know they are always going to be there for me and they are just happy to be here. they were having a great time, as you guys probably all saw.
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excuse me. but i got a snapchat this morning at like 8:30 when i was taking a bus up and they were all shotgunning beers on the way to the mountain! i would say they have been having a good time, yes. >> reporter: i'm sure they are still having a good time. now another american who is favored for gold alpine skier michaela shiffrin set to compete in several events in pyeongchang. the 2014 gold medalist attacks the slopes in a manner makes you say is this girl even human? we caught up with her and it turns out she is not completely without fear. listen to this. >> my biggest fear is disappointing people and that is where the external pressure comes into play. i get in the starting gate, woo, here we go and i don't want to disappoint anyone and that is when i feel the pressure, but i'm starting to be able to separate the two and that is really important for me to actually be able to enjoy the
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sport. >> reporter: we love giving you a glimpse inside the minds of these incredible competitors pen catching the moment. allison chinchar told me this t-shirt trick. i put water on it and in five minutes it froze to a solid piece of ice essentially! incredible times here. team usa has their first gold and hopefully, many more to come. >> that does not look comfortable! but you know what? when you do what those people do, i mean, i'm watching them and especially red and thinking, oh, my gosh! i don't know how he does it. >> true respect. >> and ton there, coy, what a seat you've got. coy wire from pyeongchang, thank you so much, sir. record snowfall in the midwest is expected to cause problems for drivers today. a strong storm is continuing to sweep across the midwest. we will tell you where it's the worst. oh, you brought butch.
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boom! struggling with some rough weather. winter storm bringing record snowfall to chicago and advisories are stretching from texas to maine. >> in the southeast, there are 45 million under a flood watch right now. cnn meteorologist allison chinchar is watching all of it. good morning. >> good morning. it's part of the same system but we start with the snow. as you mentioned, yes, we have winter weather advisories from texas all the way up to maine. but the heaviest snow, at least for right now, is really centered around chicago and it's been snowing there for days. in fact, today makes the ninth straight day of measurable snow in chicago. that ties the record. and more snow is expected to continue as you can see throughout much of the day today. the heavy snow will continue to push over towards indiana as well as into michigan as we go through the rest of the day. but the southern side of this
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storm also has some pretty big implications because here we are talking about incredibly heavy rainfall and also some very strong storms down to the south, especially along the gulf coast. the main threat, at least in the short-term, is localized flooding. over 40 million people under that flood threat and we also have to keep in mind not just streets inundated by water and that leaking into other areas but the rivers. right now, we have 75 rivers that are currently at minor flood stage. seven are at moderate stage and one river has crossed over into that major flood stage threshold. it's because of how much rain we expect to get. here you can see, especially around state like georgia, alabama, and florida, you're going to get multiple waves of rain. the problem there when you get those multiple waves you get high amounts. widespread across the southeast. we are talking 2 to 5 inches but there will be several spots could pick up in excess of 6 to 8 inches of rain the next 48 hours.
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>> wow. allison chinchar, thanks for watching it for us. we are starting this hour with breaking news out of the one of the biggest tourist attractions in the country. four people died and others are injured after a sightseeing helicopter crashed into the grand canyon. >> these are the first pictures we are getting of what happened there. local police have called in the milt now to help rescue the survivors. you can see why. the terrain is rocky. the winds are high and it's still dark in arizona. cnn's polo sandoval is joining us live with more details. what have you learned this hour? >> reporter: we understand that first responders have actually reached these four survivors so they are helping them, administering first aid there and trying to get them some of the help that they need. the next issue, though, is getting the survivors out of the scene. it is something has has proven to be difficult, to say the least. you mentioned, it is rocky, it is extremely rugged terrain there. this accident h
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