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hours. >> wow. allison chinchar, thanks for watching it for us. we are starting this hour with breaking news out of the one of the biggest tourist attractions in the country. four people died and others are injured after a sightseeing helicopter crashed into the grand canyon. >> these are the first pictures we are getting of what happened there. local police have called in the milt now to help rescue the survivors. you can see why. the terrain is rocky. the winds are high and it's still dark in arizona. cnn's polo sandoval is joining us live with more details. what have you learned this hour? >> reporter: we understand that first responders have actually reached these four survivors so they are helping them, administering first aid there and trying to get them some of the help that they need. the next issue, though, is getting the survivors out of the scene. it is something has has proven to be difficult, to say the least. you mentioned, it is rocky, it is extremely rugged terrain there. this accident happening in a
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part of the grand can jon theyo that is tough to get there. we understand wind gusts up to 50 miles an hour making it difficult for aerial access. now with military assistance could hopefully get them out of the scene as this investigation begins. we understand the ntsb will be looking into the cause of this accident. this was a tour operated by papion group and say they are the world's largest sightseeing company. a single engine, very roomy and very capable aircraft there case of transporting seven to eight people and the ntsb will be launching an investigation there. we found out that this tour company was involved in a deadly accident back in 2001 and
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haven't seen anything since. now here we are, again, 4 of 7 people did survive a deadly accident there in the grand canyon. this is still an evolving situation as the military now joins in trying to get the survivors away from the scene and over to help. >> hopefully, sunrise there in a few hours will bring the people out quickly. polo sandoval, thanks so much. >> you bet. ♪ this is another example of the white house being forced to deal with a crisis. >> there has to be a zero tolerance towards that type of domestic violence. >> the president is being rather defiant in response to accusations of two his former staffers. >> he said, very strongly yesterday, he is innocent but we wish him well. >> disgusting comes to mind. disturbing also comes to mind. >> i think it's important for the president to acknowledge the victims.
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>> we are in the middle of a sunday afternoon protest in seoul and these people are angry about what is going on. >> vice president pence came here calling for maximum pressure and maximum isolation of neither and instead the north korean delegation was in the vip box with him. we will get to that story in a moment. democrats are now demanding answers as the white house faces questions over the handling of two staffers accused of domestic abuse. >> a dozen democratic senators have sent a letter to chief of staff john kelly and white house counsel don mcgann. the senators ask when the white house found out about the abuse allegations and why the staffers were allowed to keep their jobs until this week. not only a moral question but national security implications here. the letter asks should rob porter have been handling classified information with an interim clearance? >> president trump continued to defending his now former staffers this time through a
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statement on twitter saying that lives are being destroyed over what he called mere allegations and whatever happened to due process, he asked. but after that, an attempt at pivot for the president to the ongoing fight over immigration. we are live from washington with our cnn correspondent kristen holmes now. good morning to you. what are you hearing from the white house? >> reporter: good morning. well, administration officials are telling us this is a white house in turmoil dealing with, yet, another public relations crisis. you mentioned that pivot to immigration. well, this is likely because of the widespread backlash president trump received from that tweet, from that response. and this is really become a pattern that we have seen with the president when responding to these abuse allegations, particularly when they are against his colleagues or his friends or even himself. now, people took issue with many parts of this response, but one thing, in particular. there was no mention of the victims. president trump did not mention the victims when he first responded to the situation in
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the oval office and then he didn't mention the victims again in this tweet. now take a listen to what a republican congressman charlie dent had to say about that. >> there has to be a zero tolerance toward that type of domestic violence that is discussed in these two situations. that is very clear. of course, we should be very sympathetic and empathetic to the victims, to the women who have been violated here, subject of violence. that said, i think it's important for the president to acknowledge the victims. >> reporter: that was a republican congressman. now you have this letter from 12 democratic senators. they are outlining everything from the security clearance. did porter disclose this situation? did he actually get denied a security clearance? was he handling these classified documents without a clearance? and what did john kelly and don
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mcgacgahn know? it was in february of 2017 so a year ago when porter first told don mcgahn this might be an issue on his background check and then again in the fall of this year is when john kelly was made aware of the situation. >> kristen holmes, we appreciate it so much. thank you. still to come, kim jong-un's sister had a lunch meeting with the south korean prime minister in seoul but on the street protesters were chanting anti-north korean slogans. history was made in pyeongchang. the u.s. took home gold in the men's snowboard slopestyle and coy wire was there with red gerard's family. stay close. how do you win at business?
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political consequences? that is at least one of the questions we will talk about with our guest kelly jane torrance, deputy managing editor at the "weekly standard." and an editor at the washington examiner. good morning to both of you. let me put up a couple of faces to get to who the president defends here. here are some of the people, the president, himself, one of the seven here, who have benefited from the defense of the president. you can see the faces and the list of those. these are all allies of the president. was there in defense for john conyers, a democrat, who is in congress. senator franken and former senator now. and harvey weinstein. kelly, to you first. it does depend on when you are and if you're nice to the president? >> yes, it does. look at that list. it's kind after basket of deplorables, wouldn't you say?
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it temp defend only men and men on his side who likes him and who he thinks can do something for him. it is concerning. those of us who during the election kept arguing that judgment and character matter, i think, we are really being proved right here. if you take a look at some of these people and how much it sounds like john kelly and don mcgahn defended rob porter and keep him on, that is why the white house is desperate to have decent people working for them and rob porter was good at his job but why are the white house having trouble finding great people to work there? people don't want to be associated with president trump. >> they have got a few more positions to fill since porter resigned over the past couple of days. more have resigned for various reasons. there is this letter that a dozen senators sent to chief of staff kelly and white house counsel don mcgahn asking a myriad of questions here.
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when were you -- when were officials made aware of the allegations, did mr. porter disclose the domestic abuse? was he denied a security clearance? siraj, what is your degree of confidence by march 1st request from the senators they will get answers to any of these? >> i don't actually have high expectations that the white house will return to democratic senators' requests for answers. if mcgahn and kelly knew to the extent we know about david sorrisorr sorensen and porter, they both need to resign. there is no excuse for not only domestic violence but condoning diagram violence and allowing that behavior to continue and even flourish. as we know, rob porter has influenced in his position only elevated in the white house within just the last few months and, apparently, according to reports, we heard reports that
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john kelly and don mcgahn knew about rob porter's accusations and ignored them and that is highly concerning and should not have anyplace in the white house. >> this letter is from 12 democrats, kelly. where are the republicans in -- even in a general curiosity about how much the chief of staff and the white house counsel knew and when they got the information about porter? is there -- there may not be and not a letter yet but are we hearing from leadership? is it too far to expect or ask if there would be hearings about this? >> no, it's not too much to ask but you're right. republican leadership has been pretty silent on this. we have heard a couple of lone voices here and there like charlie dent as you had on cnn. but the leadership, itself, is not saying anything and, of course, they are scared to do anything that might offend the president because this president
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attacks people who he sees not 100% completely loyal. this is one reason why president trump is so toxic and republicans think midterms are coming up. we got to be careful. we got to keep our majority. by having elected this guy as your candidate and continuing to support him, you are really only making it more likely that americans are going to get fed up with this and want someone in congress who doesn't support the kind of person who would say that, for example, that rob porter had a bad week. yeah, i guess he did, but you yo what? the women he abused, they had bad years. to me it's just shocking that the president would say things like this and no one in high up in the republican leadership is taking a stand against it. >> kelly makes a good point there that republicans are facing what polls show and i guess history shows that first mid determine of a new president, which could be a challenging midterm election,
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what could this mean, siraj, for their attempt to bring in independent women especially to keep their mantjorities? >> if there is anything we learned from the fallout in the white house is charlie dent is not running for re-election is able to speak his mind because he doesn't have to worry about re-election or getting back into the republican party. it seems as if any person who is in congress who is not seeking re-election can suddenly speak their mind and suddenly say what they think about president trump and the white house. so the failure of the republicans to really speak out against this white house and the activity and condoning of what we have seen this type of behavior is very concerning, at least within with respect to the midterm elections, and if they are not able to capitalize on at least, say, something as simple as tax reform and, all of a sudden, you know, a lot of characters within the white house are suddenly being thrown
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out and they are not able to speak out against them, i don't have high hopes for them in the midterm elections. >> kelly, one question that is asked in this letter from the 12 senators is how many individuals in the white house are working with interim security clearances? our rortinged there aeporting t0 throughout the white house. could this porter situation hasten a decision one way or another? maybe an unformal audit of people who don't have the full security clearances and to make a decision on those folks? >> let's hope so, victor. i have to say there is a security backlog with doing security checks and it's the case for years. but somebody who is serving in the white house in a senior position like rob porter and some of these other people, they are not -- it's not going to take over a year for that clearance to go through. if they haven't gotten it by now and they are at the senior level, there is something wrong. and the fact that, you know, it sounds like rob porter knew
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immediately, as soon as he started going through the process this was going to be a problem. and they gave him an interim one and that is actually, you know, pretty normal but it's not normal for a senior official to not have that full security clearance gone through in a year and the fact that there's so many people that are having this problem certainly is concerning and you have to wonder what is the holdup with these people? what are the problems with these people? and are we going to see an exodus from the white house because maybe it turned out that the character of the president led to the hiring of people with poor character themselves. >> the president is certainly trying to pivot to immigration come will be a topic next week but the letter from the senators, indicates this is not over. thank you both. >> thank you. four people are dead after what deputies are calling a hors terrific shooting spree in eastern kentucky. authorities found two victims at
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a home in johnson county yesterday and two other victims were found at a home ten miles away. authorities do not know a motive and the victims' names are not released yet. two ohio police officers were killed in the line of duty when they respond to do a 911 call yesterday. police say the officers were shot as they walked into an apartment where there was a potential domestic situation. the officers have been identified. their names eric juling and anthony morelli. tooting they served nearly 50 years. their police chief say they were the best two in the department. >> both officers gave their life to the protection of others. those are true american heroes. >> the suspect who has not been identified was wounded and hospitalized. president trump expressed his sympathy on twitter saying my thoughts and prayers are with
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the two police officers and their families and the westerfield police department. you're looking at angry crowds there on the streets of south korea. the north korean leader sister makes a push for friendly ties between the two countries. we will talk about that in a moment. this is the story of green mountain coffee roasters dark magic told in the time it takes to brew your cup. first, we head to vermont. and go to our coffee shop. and meet dave. hey. why is dark magic so spell-bindingly good, he asks? let me show you. let's go. so we climb. hike. see a bear. woah. reach the top. dave says dark magic is a bold blend of coffee with rich flavors of uganda, sumatra, colombia and other parts of south america. like these mountains, each amazing on their own. but together? magical. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters packed with goodness.
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jong-un. >> the north korean sister has been trying to make a connection there. some south koreans are not so hopeful about peaceful ties. >> cnn's paula hancocks live from seoul. >> give us context and how many people are there and the general view was from the protesters. >> reporter: well, there were a couple of hundreds of people at that protest just outside the orchestra that was performing from north korea. there have been these sort of pocket of protests following this north korean delegation around. some of the anger that these people are feeling. south korea waited so long to host the winter olympics and all of a sudden, when it's their time the north koreans come in
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at the last moment and don't march into the opening ceremony under their own flag. they marched in with north korean athletes under a unified korean flag but some frustration from some in korea this is' feel this is isn't the pyeongchang olympics but another olympics. this is not the overall whelming sentiment. some who welcome the fact there seems to be a much better relationship, at least on the surface of it, between north and south korea when you consider just how tense the situation was. a few months ago we were talking about the possibility of war and president moon was saying why there shouldn't be a second korean war. now you have the south korean president welcoming this delegation and certainly the optics quite remarkable and different from where we were recently. for some protesters, it is simply too much. they are angry that north korea,
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as one person said to me, seem to have been able to come to the party without even paying for it. >> paula hancocks, thank you. phil mudd is joining us and a counterterrorism official. >> kim yo-jong is a published face. it's a murderous regime. is it a good decision to send her to the olympics? >> it was. we saw the pressure we saw and pressure applied by president trump. this is easily identifiable pressure release valve. the north koreans are saying, look. we agree to talk to the south koreans and invited them up to north korea and why increase pressure onmenable to talks? nobody is sitting there saying they are doing anything about their nuclear program or ballistic program so in a matter of months they can keep those
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programs going and at the same time say peace is at hand and we can talk to the screouth korean and they can come up and talk with us. >> the vice president here in the united states says there is no daylight between the south koreans and the u.s. is there growing daylight? are we seeing a separation? >> i wouldn't say that yet. if there is dlalaylight, just a sliver of daylight. i think the south koreans and japanese are uncomfortable with the level of pressure applied by the united states, a suggestion there might be military action. the south korean response has been cautious. they are well aware that the defender of south korea, including with military troops on the ground with the united states and what the south koreans are saying you cannot strip us away this easily. that is you can't just invite us to north korea without some participation by the united states. i think the south koreans, despite the fact they want overtures to north korea will be
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very cautious letting the north koreans say keep the americans at arm's length but we will talk to you and exactly what the north koreans want and i'm not sure. i don't want the south koreans will fall for it. >> do you think the south koreans will agree to this meeting that this invitation that kim yo-jong has offered? >> boy. there is two broad pieces we have to understand here. i don't think they are going to agree to it right off the start. there have to be reconditions and something the north koreans give. as you just said they got a ticket to the olympics without payinging anything. the ticket we are asking them to punch is cease their nuclear program. they would say that is our only defense against a potential attack by the americns so what is the air gap between doing nothing? the south koreans showing us because they got an invitation and requiring that the north koreans give up a nuclear program? i don't know what that is but that is what is called diplom y diplomacy. there has to be talks and preconditions but it can't be
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giving up nuclear weapons because i don't think the north koreans will ever do that. >> kim jong-un is -- there was no -- the u.s. did not pause the exercises to get kim to break-away from his nuclear program. but only after the u.s. announced that they would pause them for the olympics was that invitation, that phone call. i wonder if you think that if the president, president moon will ask for an extension of that pause, although the u.s. says the exercises should continue immediately, as not to antagonize kim to continue this conversation? >> i think they will, but that is the kind of tactical negotiation that the kind of precondition that might lead up to potential talks. the problem here is the american can't sit around forever and say the north koreans can dictate to us when we have exercises with the south koreans. i'm sure there will be private talks saying look. we will keep exercising for some
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level at sometime but can't stop forever. the question is going to be what is the bait that gets the americans and south koreans to accept those talks? maybe an extension of the slow down in military exercises? i'm not sure. there has got to be something on the table for the americans to show up. >> vice president pence says that even harsher sanctions are coming and those could be potentially against chinese entities. phil mudd, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, sir. team usa is getting on the board winning its first gold medal of the winter games. >> coy wire is live from pyeongchang this morning and you were there with the family of winner number one. >> reporter: oh, yeah, can't wait to share that story with you, victor, and christi. team usa has ground to make up or snow or ice you could say. norway leading the medal count with eight and canada in third with three. the u.s. only has one. coming up, we will hear from one
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great energy. yes, red man. they called him red for short. what were you doing in high school? he doesn't graduate until next summer. he is 17 and 5'5" and 116 pounds and became the youngest american male since 1924 to capture gold in the winter games. a young kid from cleveland let loose and took gold. i was there amongst his 20 plus friends and family members. traveling halfway around the world to be there with him. there were tears. there was disbelief when red had you had his mom and dad and picked up his little sister and looked her and said, i love you, ash. he didn't know how big of a deal the olympics was for him. it's all about the xgames for him. listen to him. >> i always know they are going to be there for me. they are just happy to be here. they were having a great time,
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as you all saw. excuse me. i got a snapchat this morning at 8:30 when i was taking a bus up and they were all shotgunning beers on the way to the mountain. so i'd say they have been having a good time, yes. >> reporter: let's talk figure skating. reigning u.s. figure skating champ made her bay due and usa in strong position to medal here. they took bronze in sochi. women's hockey team usa are making their debut versus finland. after a shaky start, they had three unanswered goals to win 3-1. they are back in action tuesday morning east coast time taking on the olympic athletes of russia. >> coy wire, thank you so much. live for us there from pyeongchang. breaking news. russian media reporting a russian airplane with 71 people on board has crashed.
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>> this happened just after the plane took off from the airport near moscow. rescue teams are on their way to the reported crash location and we will have cnn senior international correspondent matthew chance on the phone soon from that airport. also ahead, the president says republicans care more about dreamers than democrats. next, he has outlined what the white house wants from an immigration deal. will they get it? (snap) achoo! (snap) achoo! achoo!
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breaking news here. russia media reporting a russian airport with 71 on board has crashed thorge. >> after the plane took off at an airport near moscow. rescue teams are on their way to the reported crash location. we have on the phone with us cnn senior international correspondent matthew chance who is at the airport.
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what do you know, matthew? >> reporter: not a great deal at this point, victor. within the past few minutes i just landed at this airport which is a main airport in moscow. it serves the russian capitol. it seems that, according to russian state media, that the task news organization, there has been this incident involving a 148 aircraft which is a russian-made propellor aircraft that took off sometime ago and we don't have the exact time yet. according to task, 71 passengers and crew on board. it was lost, according to the news agency, which is quoting the russian emergency situations minist ministry, it was lost from radar shortly afterwards and believe to have gone down somewhere in the moscow region, a region, a town called ram square is one that is mentioned, that is about 28 miles or so from the russian capitol, so not very far at all.
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at this time, we don't know the reasons why this would have happened but i can tell you from my own experience from the past couple of hours and weeks, indeed, that the moscow region is experiencing some of its most, you know -- some of its heavy snowfall for many, many decades. in fact, the aircraft that i was on just was forced to circle the airport several times before it was able to come in to safely land. and i expect that the investigators will be looking at that as one possibility as they try to get the bottom of what has happened to this aircraft. >> matthew chance, we will be right back after a short break. thank you, matthew. we presh it. we appreciate it. roasters dark magic told in the time it takes to brew your cup. first, we head to vermont. and go to our coffee shop. and meet dave. hey. why is dark magic so spell-bindingly good, he asks? let me show you. let's go. so we climb. hike. see a bear. woah. reach the top. dave says dark magic is a bold blend of coffee
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this morning. a plane has crashed and disappeared from radar shortly after it left a airport near moscow and then searched shortly after. search teams are on the way. matthew chance is at the airport and he was talking about how snow made things very dicey here. record snowfall, don't know if that is a cause, but teams are on their way to the crash sight. >> and now talking about what will be a big issue in washington this week and that is immigration. the president is hitting democrats for not fixing daca when they had a chance. they said republicans wanted to fix daca more than the democrats do. they just want to use it as a campaign issue. the only problem with refers to daca specifically is that it was
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not a priority until 2012. joining me now, the former chief of staff to nancy pelosi and also collin reid. i want to start with you and this bipartisan group of senators working for weeks on this issue of immigration and the four pillars that the president pointed out. let's listen to what the president says he wants as part of any deal he is willing to sign. >> my administration has identified three major priorities for creating a safe, modern, and lawful immigration system. fully securing the border, ending chain migration, and cancelling the visa lottery. >> now daca was not one of them. i assume that democrats will require that to be one of them. do you believe there is a bill,
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an agreement, that will reach all four of those and pass all the chambers? >> no, i think the president is using the dreamers as a tool to get what he wants on immigration. let me just set the record straight on what democrats want. for 17 years there has been a bill to deal with the dreamers. i work for senator durbin. he introduced it in 2001. that was the first time. in 2010, the house when i was there passed the dream act and then it was stopped in the senate even though it got 50 plus senators. now to this moment, the president unfortunately created this problem. there is a bipartisan group and you know i have to be hopeful because it has been going on for a long time to try to get this issue resolved, but to add all of these other matters in order to deal with the dreamers, kids that have been here for all of their life, but i'm hopeful that the senate bipartisan group will
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come up with an agreement. i've been told that senate democrats will propose only bipartisan bills and bill amendments during the debate. they have been supported by democrats and republicans. we'll see what they do. >> the threshold for the speak sere that he will bring something to the floor that the president will sign. changing it to something that can be law. there are many in the president's base that will see any path to citizenship for the daca recipients as a.m. necessity. do you see any indication that he will be more likely than he was -- he said at that open meeting that he is willing to take the heat on the bipartisan legislation, then a proposal came and he didn't sign it. do you see that he will sign a bill that does include protections for daca recipients.
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>> i think the political rally in washington dc right now is that it is taking people on both sides of the aisle to address the issue. you v two democrats from a swing state that said they will work together on this issue. i think they face political peril if they are opposed to any sort of deal that includes increased border security that the president will brand as a wall. that is what he made a promise to on his campaign. it will take both sides working together. i don't know whether or not the democrats will take any sort of border security, and whether or not they will be able to stomach that. i asked democrats if it was an appropriate deal to give money
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to allow them to fund the wall. they said absolutely not. now we're hering potentially that some will be, as part of this deal, willing to fund the wall, do you think they will. >> i was talking about physical barrier and technology. it's all part of the negotiation, but generally speaking democrats have always been supporters of border security. maybe not exactly what the president is talking about or speaker ryan is talking about. >> brick and mortar, reinforced and rebarred, should they vote for that? >> what the president is asking for is a lot of money on a proposal that is never really going to do anything. let's just see what final proposal will be. he rejected it right away, we'll see. thank you so much, we have run out of time, that breaking
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news came in and altered our schedule. thank you so much. well the victim of one of america's most bizarre kidnappings, and now the radical story of patty hearst reveals her transformation from heiress to terrorist and back. her kidnapping in 1974 considered the crime of the century. >> it was so extraordinary. >> born into wealth and power, hearst grew up in hillsborough. he went to berkeley. she lived off campus with her boyfriend, a former teacher at her high school. >> it was the couple's
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engagement announcement in her family's newspaper that grew attention to a small radical terrorist group referred to as fla. >> hearst was kidnapped from her apartment in 1974. >> she was a symbolic target. she was an heiress. >> locked in a closet for nearly two months, she says she was bli blindfolded, beaten, and raped. she reappeared on surveillance footage holding a rifle. robbing a bank. >> the heiress turned terrorist was no longer a victim, but a terrorist. >> nine months after she was kidnapped, she was arrested with
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the few remaining members of the sla. six others died months earlier in a blazing shootout with the los angeles police, broadcast live on tv, very new for television. hearst was sentenced to seven years in prison for her role in robbing the bank. >> she was on the run for a year and a half with many opportunities to leave and escape. and she didn't. >> yes she would serve just under two years in prison before president carter commuted her sentence. >> is there any doubt that none of this would have happened if she had not been kidnapped. >> then she married the man tasked with protecting her during her trial. president clinton gave her a full pardon in 2001.
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all right, more on the breaking news out of russia, local media reporting that a passeng passenger plane with 71 people on board. it laeft the radar shortly afte takeoff. >> rescue teams are making their way to that crash location. when we get more investigation we'll pass it on to you. thank you for spending your sunday morning with us. "inside politics with john king" starts right now.
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