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more west wing layoffs. >> it was a low grade constant terror of not knowing what i might do to set something off. >> plus a big spending deal and a huge question. >> how come you were against president obama's deficits and now you're for republican deficits. >> immigration and the dreamers. >> young people are port of our future and these dreamers are part of that. >> the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to inside politics, i'm john king. thank you for sharing your sunday. the president talking about
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replacing his chief of staff. it sounds tone deaf or worse as he speaks kindly of a top aide that has to resign because of domestic abuse allegations. >> we wish him well. we found out recently, i was surprised by it, we wish him well in this tough time for him. he did a very good job when he was in the white house. we hope he has a wonderful career. >> plus a massive new spending deal and a green light to raise the debt ceiling. there is a new republican identity crisis. >> we are in a terrible state as a country. $20 trillion in debt is bigger than our entire economy. you wonder why the stock market is jittery.
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we don't have the capacity to continue to fund a government like this. and mike pence talks tough as north and south korea use the olympic stage to make nice. >> we will continue to seize every opportunity to ensure that north korea does not use the powerful imagery and the backdrop of the olympics to paper over an appalling record of human rights and a pattern of developing weapons and conducting in the kind of missile launches that are threatening our nation and neighbors across the region. >> with us this morning, julie davis, collin of the washington post, and mary katherine ham. the administration in a mess again. two aids resigned this past week because of allegations of
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domestic abuse. the president is angry about whether or not he should fire and replace his chief of staff. he is also suggesting this storm is unfair to them and to him. people's lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. some are true, some are false, some are old, some are new. there is no recovery for someone falsely accused. life and career are gone. is there no such thing as due process any more? to be clear, this is hardly, as the president put it, a mere allegation. porter's first photo provided these photos to the fbi this week. the second wife also spoke to the fbi months ago and said he feshlly -- verbally abused her regularly. and there was an episode where
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he grabbed her and pulled her out of the spouhower. >> it was a low grade terror all of the time, what i would do to set something off. he is not a monster, he is an intelligent, kind, smart man, but he is also violent. >> the other ex-wife spoke last fall saying the abuse included running a call over her foot, throwing her against a wall, and putting a cigarette out on her hand. let's start there. tone deaf is being kind, correct? >> i think you put your finger
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on it. the defense that he mounted of these men is just of himself. it was a ring of a defense of his own conduct and the accusations that have been made against him, which is many. and he is not speaking as a leader of a nation where you're setting priorities and you know, setting -- giving value judgments about his moral behavior and what is not. falsely accused men of whom he considers himself one of them. >> it is troubling because there is -- >> he is not going to far as to condemn those on his faf. but john kelly didn't really do that. he spoke more highly of rob
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porter than he did sternly about domestic abuse. there was not really a public push to say we have zero tolerance for this. it was just like oh, yes, it is abhorrent, but he is so nice, too, it's sad this came together. unfortunately with where we are in history, this is a moment to have some clarity. >> it also sounds like we got caught, is what is sounds like here. we'll get to the time line lather, but they we-- later. i have no problem with the president saying rob served me well. i hope he gets the help he needs. zero empathy for the wiem --
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women. as you know he says he is innocent, and you have to remember that. he said very strongly yesterday that he is innocent. >> why is that so important to the president, and again rob porter denied the allegations. the comments and the evidence and the evidence is pretty overwhelming. >> it's a pattern of showing empathy towards men especially if they denied the allegations. you have to remember back to the campaign when corey lewndowski was shown to have grabbed a female reporter. you have the situation with roy moore who had the horrific allegations of sexual abuse against them.
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he said that is enough for me. >> most people watching probably don't need to be reminds, but here he is talking about rog rogerarogera roger ailes and now they're saying horrible things about him and it is very sad. he is a very good person. i have found him to be just a very good person. >> these claims about me of inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false. let me just tell you, roy moore denies it. he totally denies it. >> the president was complaining about due process again. correct me if you think i'm wrong here, but he lashes out on twitter and elsewhere quickly before he has facts.
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he rushes to judgment on just about everything except white republican men behaving badly around women. >> i think it is snielightly mo than that as well. it is kind of the beginning and end of it. i'm on board and i think it is our duty to investigate these allegations. you have photographic evidence. you someone writing about it on a blog, and you have these women talking to the fbi. which you know if you're not in the trump administration you take pretty seriously and you're careful about doing so. these are not low stakes for women, and the lewndowski case was just something that was in
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the trump obt bit. it will get you a bunch of bullies. >> a bunch of bullies and they could, again, when this came to their attention, in their cases it has been in their attention for months. they could have said you have to take a leave of absence. get the help you need, get the facts, and if you're cleared, you'll come back. this is joe biden, the former vice president's take on how the trump white house handles these things. >> that's like saying that axe murder out there, he is a great painter. is there any explanation for why we should not pay attention to the transgression is because they're good at something? the former vice president is correct, there is a lot of politics to that, but it is a crime. >> whether or not you think the
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president should be playing out judgments and statements on things like this, this was a management failure of epic proportions. if you just think about how you run your white house, what you're willing to tolerate personnel wide and what you're not. if you're running a sufficient and secure operation in the west wing, they did nothing wrong. they did nothing to protect themselves even when they knew there was a potential problem or a real problem. and once it all became public this past week, it took them several rounds of statements and internal meetings, and figuring out what page they were on to even put out one statement that says we condemn domestic violence of any kind even then their handling of this was the worst possible way -- >> in the wake of that, we know
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that the president is working the phones, it was raining in washington and he could not go out and he watched the television coverage of the recent day's coverage. he is asking friends and a advisors, should i replace my chief of staff. they talked about the budget director, is this real, or is this the president just venting? or really looking for a new chief of staff? >> we don't really know until he makes -- he tortured several advisors and appointees. sometimes when it is, as we know, he has replaced his chief of staff before, it is a possibility, right. but until we start seeing more of this or seeing a firing order or seeing the president direct his anger publicly towards kelly, we don't know yet.
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it's hard to say these rolls are going to roll. from the reports of the president getting out, what they should do about those inside the white house, but i think it is a little early to say that anyone is done. >> i think the discontent is real, but we have also seen with our former chief of staff that the president has a thing he does where he publicly tortures someone, getting them to the point where they want to resign, and that happened with reince priebus. but john kelly is a different sort of bird. he made it known that he was out of the job out of a sense of duty. he feels he is needed in this job, so the idea that the president could goad him into being ready. >> it is clearly a mistake. and kelly comes from the military, he has a dishonorable
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discharge for abuse. i think it speaks a little bit to a white house that is so starved for staffing options and people whom do know how to do the job like he did, so why do you go to the mats for rob porter. >> we'll talk more about this including as part of this, the stunning number of white house aides that still cannot get security clearance. also, a massive spending deal opening the door to an immigration fight if you know what they say about the early bird...
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one bottle, six benefits. power to your mouth™. . welcome back, tlr will be no shortage of midterm fights this year. and the president's refusal to release a democratic memo this week. one thing you should not hear much about this year, a big spending deal passed be the congress this week that has most people thinking we'll get going for two years here. what does it include? more than $300 billion in new spending. $165 billion for the pent gone.
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$131 million in nondefense spending. for the most part, the president is happy, he gets the big military spending increase that he wanted. who is not happy, house democrats because they did not get a specific promise in the house to get a vote on an immigration plan. conservatives saying this blows a giant hole in the deficit. this was supported by paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. that is then but this is now. >> what was a fiscal challenge is now a fiscal crisis. as americans, we need to confront it responsibly. we want to manage the budget. they don't. they want to spend more money.
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>> the democratic spending spree brought us to the bring of an economic calamity. who proposes more spending as a solution to a debt crisis. >> what happened to those guys? >> so annoying, right? >> that has been the fascinating point. that was the point that senator rand paul was trying to make when he single handedly forced a brief shut down on thursday night saying that congressional republicans had to ban all spending increases, and that if there was, all spending be off set. now only a third is off set. so it tells you a little bit of something. this is, and remember, this also increases the debt limit as well through 2019 with no corresponding increasing. so he is saying where did this republican party go.
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>> my question is how does it play out for republicans in the election year. >> all of the spending combined with the tax cuts, deficits as far as the eye can see, and it doesn't seem very republican. it doesn't seem very conservative. in the textbook of conservatism all of this is a no no except the military spending. >> a lot of people voting for this say it takes the shut downs and dramas off of the table. we can go home and campaign. will there be hypocrisies? >> there may be some, i doubt they will be that successful. this is a party headed by trump that ran on loving debts. frankly i don't think there is
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tankers, rand paul and me. so. they want their stuff cut, and they want the swamp done one. there is no reconciliation, they can't do anything on obama care or any of these other issues. if you a big infrastructure bill, daca, welcome to a democratic administration. >> and the daca debate gets us to the segues there. it will start in the senate tomorrow. is there any reason to believe especially when you have a good group of conservatives mad about what just happened, can we really see them getting something through the senate? can they get a daca plan, protected dreamers, through to the president's desk? >> if the president is willing to endorse it before the house has to vote on it, sure. it would take that sort of
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endorsement that push, that wind at their backs, to get them to put it on the floor in the first place. you have two very conservative republicans that want no part of this, period. too much unity in the g.o.p. which they think is a very good thing. they have stuck together quite well. there is no reason for them to splinter right now, why should he recreate the problems of the pasting with right? unless you have trump who said i will take the heat, but poked holes in whatever has been out there. the senate houses do not see the same way, they don't see the issue the same way at all. >> and in part of this, again, the bipartisan moment with the big spending plan. immigration getting people back in their corners again, and the president decided to delay and not release this democratic memo. a house intelligence committee, democrats wanted to counter that
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by putting their own memo out. adam schiff said i'm vindicated. trump on democratic response "it's classified." they're saying this was a longer memo that was more detailed, and it did have more sources and methods which everyone should be concerned about. so is this going to be take another look at this, try to scrub it and make it clean? is it a cynical -- are they hiding behind sources and methods because they don't want it out at all. >> i believe it is more the latter than the former. everyone should be concerned about sources and methods and they weren't when it came to the republican memo, and this is true if from what we hear a more extensive and detailed document. the republican memo as many people in the department said was missing key facts and
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elements that were not vindicating at all for the president. and it certainly looks like there has been things cherry picked from what can be made public with the full knowledge by the white house and by republicans that much of the incriminating, that would show more of what happened could not be released because it was classified. they were starting this debate on very uneven ground. there is a lot of issues there. >> in the white house's defense, the democratic memo has more in it that is sensitive. i think the only new thing there is the exact date of carter page. context matters, and the republicans were telling me this last week that the democrats backed them into a corner. they have sourcing methods and concerns here.
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or the democrats are basically going to point to if we make anything more, like another word, saying you're trying to shut us down. and the white house took possibly even the worst position. and it was just not to let it out at all. it is giving them ammunition. there was going to be redakot redactions. >> and they voted unanimously. >> now we'll see if the house has the right to step back into that and release it or put more pressure on the president, it will be interesting. >> what they knew, when, in the after math of the rob porter saga. allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards. switching to allstate is worth it. i thought i was managing my
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scandal is revealing problems among administration officials. there was 30 officials, including jared kushner who a year into the administration cannot get full security clearance because of background check info. white house council don mcgann new from the earliest days of the administration. in the first month, porter warned mcgann his ex-wives may complicate the interview process. in november, the white house security office told the white house council that porter's clearance was held up by domestic issues. and recently a porter ex-girlfriend called mcgahn to express concerns because he is
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dating hope hicks. >> i think mary katherine put her finder on this earlier, not many people are seen as professional. sorry not good enough. but there was a real willful effort to not learn any more about this than they knew. when you talk to people at the white house, it was like well, there was some issue with his former wives. then in june, it was like this is a domestic abuse allegation but he denies them. when you have someone this senior, this vital, you take it upon yous and the white house council's office if not in an effort spearheaded to vet the person yourself. if there is in any other white house, that person would be gone right away. domestic abuse or something else, a drug or capitalcohol is.
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>> it is a management question, it is a character question, and now because this is washington, it is also a political issue senators have written to the white house, we want to know who knew what when about this. here is jackie spear saying fess up, tell us the truth. >> i believe they knew full well, they were inform ed by on of his wives last year. everyone thought they would be able to weather the storm until photographs of one of his wives with a black eye came out. >> should john kelly keep his job? >> absolutely not. he doesn't get it. >> we are in an election year, fwhooer the me too movement.
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women on the democratic side are flooding to run for office. how does it play sbool that when the issue is a fundamental and character question but we live in a political environment. >> aside from it being just a political issue, you to look at the security issues this raises. you look at rob porter, he was managing all of the documents that went straight to the president's desk. the fact that he was working on a temporary security clearance is a fact that has been alarming senators and that's why you had democratic congressmen asking the white house for more answers, but also for an independent investigation by the inspector general. >> look, there is a lot to be concerned about with rob porter. he is one of 30 people that had problems like this. we reported that he doesn't read his daily intell bri briefings.
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maybe rob porter seems, in terms of the other issues that could be plaguing these other people, outside of the white house. perhaps that's what people in the white house were willing to tolerate compared to everything else. but the point you made about the election season has to matter president perception matters when you want to promote that party on a national scale. they are primed to make that claim. and when things like this happen and the president defends it and that it doesn't happen on my watch, and doesn't go so far as many other people, you will see instances when they say this is wrong and they do wrong things. that is ammunition. >> another example of virtual
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crickets from the republican leadership when you have a major question about the trump white house. the behavior and the pattern. i want to listen to someone who served the country for decades raising questions about security questions. don mcgahn said this is a problem, but if there are 30 to 40 people with this problem, one of them is the president's son-in-law jared kushner gets to stay. people that don't have security laer clearances and the interims have major announcements with allies. you don't go into them without having some type of classified information. clearly he is talking about
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jared kushner there. but we're a year and a month into this investigation. some of this is financial, some is conflict of interest. for rob porter you issues of domestic abuse, but the issue is the same. they cannot get a clean bill of health from the background checks more than a year in. what do they do about it. it is part of the problem, too. i think you have a hallmark of the trump white house that is that they're crippled by the new drama. they have some of the day today business in the most secure way possible, that reverberates for the party that has to answer this, particularly as the response being as bad as it had been. >> and kim jong un's sister
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vice president mike pence lead the delegation and had a upclose look at a remarkable moment. they were marching on the same team and waving reunification flags. more history just a few seats away. kim jong un's sister right there. south korea views this as a major milestone and a chance to see if an olympics detaunt can bring talks. >> they have agreed to delay our military exercises until after the olympics. i know president moon has appreciated that, but we're going to make it crystal clear that our military, our allies across the region, are prepared,
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to defend our nations and stake the action necessary to defend our homeland. >> he has returned, but this a remarkable few days, south korea believes let's try this. have the athletes together. the first regime manage to come to the south since the war, and the united states is saying basically no no no. >> it has been a stark contrast to watch. north korea is using the public attention and spotlight of the games to promote normalcy where you have the sister attending the ceremony. and he has very stark and firm saying this is propaganda. and in asia, you had him inviting the father of ottowe sz
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wernbier to sit with him. so you see him trying to drive a wedge between south korea and the united states especially in these olympic games. >> and the president kept trying to make the point that there is no space. is there not? wasn't that evident to us that there was tone space? >> the south korean president wanted vice president pence to shake the hand of kim jong un's sister and he did not do that. they thought it would be an important symbol of the willingness to take a bath. but president trump was a
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addiment. >> so you had a debate about that, that the president should at least acknowledge her and say okay, i'm willing to say this is good, but. and they say no, they starve their own people, they are among the most dispickbkdispicket -- despicable. the policy from this white house is a discussion we can have. t i want to applaud them for it, but i also think it is really important for both activiti acto don't like pence or the regime.
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and these cheerleaders are prisoners of their countries and trained at gunpoint to cheer. so let's not get too excited. this is a bad, bad look and it is a propaganda victory for them. >> it is supposed to be a wonderful moment of unity. there are still protests happening outside between other meetings right now, but it is also nothing about the olympics that is not political prop canaca a aganda. he has been criticized for that, and the south koreans are having fun with the seating arrangements working him into every awkward position that he can, but he has to, in a way to not abandon the base, create
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unlikely. the democrats consider this to be dead on arrival. they don't have interest on the plan that he is proposing, and there is an acknowledgment that this is not something that the republican base is clammoring for. >> roads, bridges, and tweets, yes, we will see. >> i'm interesting to see if steve bannon will qualityly come to capitol hill. he left open the possibility for the president to claim executive privilege and said i'm not talking about anything from my time in the white house or my transition time before. they issued a subpoena that has been extended three times. if he does not, we're
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potentially looking at a show down. they say if we keep giving them a pass within this is a moment where the russia probe over someone pretty extensiistentiae. >> manage that could get a lot of attention in the coming weeks and days is paid family leave. we saw a brief mention of it a few weeks ago, and we'll see a mention of it in the president's bujd, but now you have marco rubio and ivanka trump teaming up again, ivanka's policy agenda and what she is doing it always a sort of fascination, but also marco rubio and his policy. he played such a key role fei years ago, he transformed
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himself into a very pro-family platform. pushing the child tax credit and the paid family leave. he is getting a lot of resistance to the left. >> it will be fun to watch the parties on that one as well. >> just attempting to read tea leaves, which is tricky, i think there is a concern that he might take the house, there are recent signs of the closing of the ballot numbers. talking to republican opera dives that things are not nearly as bad at you expect them to be. but something is not resonating in the way they hoped they
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would. >> cnn is told that in recent days, senator bob corker of tennessee floated the idea of changing his mind and running for reelection this year. but, this is a big butt, when the idea was broached with mitch mcconnell, it was that it is a nonstarter. you might recall last year he questions the president's competitikp competence and then he got the nickname little bob. one source says in recent days that the president will "have no part of it." thank it for "inside politics." state of the union is next with jake tapper including a sit down with kellyanne conway. enjoy that.
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