thank you. thanks to our international viewers, cnn "newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues. >> not to show any concern or empathy for the victims, that is a problem. >> he said very strongly that he's innocent. we absolutely wish him well. >> people should look at to how this was handled. one week ago he was a top aide. today he is out of the white house. >> i think the president thinks he's doing a great job as well. >> we thought kelly was the guy who can manage your place. you cannot make a bigger mess than you're cleaning up. >> the president doesn't want you to see these facts because it completely undermines his claim of vindication. >> we will be releasing the memo. we asked them to clean it up. >> there are additional sources and methods revealed in the democratic memo. >> i urge my colleagues to read the the memo so they can know what donald trump is trying to hide. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day". alisyn is on assignment. erica hill joins me.

thank you for being here on a monday. good to have you. the trump white house struggling still to get the story straight on the scandal rocking the west wing for nearly a week now. largely because of its in ability to give one true story. trump aides defending the president's chief of staff, general john kelly over his handling of the domestic abuse allegations that led to the ouster of rob porter. president trump taking heat for a tweet that defends men accused of abuse. >> meantime, a big day on capitol hill. the senate begins debating one of the thorniest issues in washington and across the country, immigration. gop senators will introduce president trump's plan, which faces uncertain future. can congress, though, strike awe deal to protect dreamers? the white house, we should point out, set to unveil $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan.

the big question, how do they pay for it? a lot to cover on this monday. we begin with indicate you line co kaitlan collins at the white house >> reporter: he is still struggle to go give a consistent explanation of who knew what when. and they are raising questions just how seriously he takes the these allegations. top aides doing damage control, denying that president trump against his right-hand man rob porter. >> he said please tell jake i have full faith in chief of staff john kelly and i am not looking for replacements. he said i saw that all over the news. i have faith in him. >> i don't want that job. i love the job -- jobs i have now.

and more importantly, i think the chief of staff is doing a great job. >> reporter: some republicans are calling on kelly to explain why he continued to elevate porter's profile in the west wing despite learning about the allegations months ago. >> in the end we have to hear from john kelly what he knew. and the president needs to hear that before he can make an evaluation of competence. >> reporter: multiple aides insisting that the president is disturbed by the allegations and sympathetic towards porter's accusers. >> he is very disappointed. he believes the resignation was appropriate. >> the president, like the rest of us, were shocked and disturbed by the allegations. this is not the rob porter any of us have worked with. but, george, in looking at contemporaneous police reports, pictures, detailed allegations by these women -- >> reporter: this characterization a stark contrast to the president's tweet over the weekend, people's lives are being shattered and

destroyed by a mere allegation. >> we certainly wish him well. it is obviously a tough the time for him. he says he's innocent. and i think you have to remember that. >> reporter: porter's second wife jennifer willoughby slamming mr. trump's response writing that the president's words were meant to imply that i am a liar. willoughby adding, despite mr. trump's dismissal, i want to ensure you that my truth has not been diminished. axios is reporting that some senior white house officials strongly encouraged him to stay and fight rather than resign. porter maintaining he never reported anything. >> he wasn't entirely forth coming. the photographs took everybody by surprise. >> reporter: so as you can see, erica and chris, a messy trail of conflicting statements coming

out of the white house as the outcry over this is stretching into a new week on the day that the president is expected to unveil his $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. joining us now is david gregory and associate editor of real clear politics, a.b. stoddard. david, people will say, boy, you guys can't move off of this. how can we when we don't know what the story is? we haven't gotten a straight line. kellyanne conway said the right thing on the show yesterday. that's not a unified voice coming out of the white house. >> no. it's a mess. i don't know that we're going to get to the bottom of it. but there is a lot to get to. this was poorly handled, bungled or full of deceit or both. there are real questions about john kelly's role as chief of staff. but they have closed ranks, as i say. i think this weekend showed that. the president showed us two different things.

on the one hand, he is willing to get rid of the guy. there is internal pressure, enough people saying, no, you can't keep him around. there is ample evidence that he was encouraged to stick around throughout all of this. people knew about these allegations and kept him along because they liked him a lot, thought he was doing a great job. and then the president and his public face with his comments is going to be true to form. you know, the guy has been accused of sexual misconduct in the past and it's going to show this incense activity toward sexual misconduct and/or abuse and side with those who are accused. and at the same time kind of wade into another flashpoint to stir up his own supporters in the moment -- in this me too moment. incredibly important moment in our country. so he is doing all of these things at once. i think it is pretty clear which way he wants to go, which is straight past it. >> we also saw pretty clearly people's lives are being

shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. some are true and some are false. some are old and some are new. there is no recovery for someone falsely accused. life and career are gone. is there no such thing any longer as due process? ye is he, the president is setting the tone in many ways for the country. it is not a tone, to david's point, that a lot of people would like to see. >> and he is talking about himself in that tweet. >> he likely is. but he has shown a very clear pattern in terms of who he sides with. it is along party lines and also along gender lines. as we look at what's happening here, a.b. as we move forward, when do we get to the point where it actually catches up with the president. roy moore said he totally denies it. >> mick mulvaney said yesterday, a member of his cabinet, that he might have been thinking of steve wynn when he wrote that

tweet, some shows you how many interesting characters there are around the orbit of president trump that he would be thinking of someone that none of the rest of us were thinking about when he wrote that tweet on saturday morning. look, i think that the president's record is clear and not going to chair. his supporters don't care. his support among women, women who voted him by 61%, women without a college degree, he is now below 50% with them. women with a college degree, he's at 29%. my question to congressional republicans, why remain silent on this? you're not in john kelly's head. you're not trying to keep a stable white house and hold onto staffers despite having serious failings and perhaps being criminals worth keeping because they are required to stay in a job in a chaotic place. what are they doing being so

silent on this issue when they could easily come out and say this is obviously someone, even if they knew him in the senate, where rob porter worked for a long time with senator hatch, could come out and say something. it is their hides on the along when they are facing head winds in the midterm elections. and i will remind them that women can actually vote. so this is something they should consider in the next months to come. >> it's a good point. and it's, i think, an obvious point for a lot of congressional republicans. but i don't think they want to go anywhere near this. how many examples now do we have of congressional republicans shying away from an issue that the president will go straight into. they want to talk about the tax cut, the impact of the tax cut. they may not like this market volatility, nor will the president as a result of the financial markets. but the president will go right there. and he will go there just like the kneeling in the nfl. a lot of people have followed

the me too movement and said, wait a minute, what about due process for someone accused. >> right. >> this is a horrible example to use that. instead of doing the appropriate and the easy thing in this situation, which is to say, hey, this guy who worked for me, i care about him. great reputation. this is so is sad. but i'm also thinking about the women involved and what horrible abuse they apparently went through. there are photographs, contemporaneous police reports. as kellyanne conway pointed out, it was so easy to do the right thing. >> if there weren't this echo effect by mostly all of these men who support president trump. and it's a danger here. workplace appropriate behavior matters. systemic change matters. a.b., this is domestic abuse we're talking about. this isn't inappropriate conduct. women die because of this. it is scourge in our society. the president is glossing over

it because it suits him. and another reason with this rob porter. he didn't have security clearance for a reason. neither does jared kushner. he has dozens of changes to his financial disclosures. and the question becomes pretty obvious here. did they have to ignore this because they can't lock down on clearances because the president's son-in-law is hanging out there with a dubious clearance right now? >> the president can't acknowledge domestic violence or sexual harassment because he's on tape talking -- bragging about grabbing women and assaulting them and he has a whole bunch of accusers of his own. so he is not going to be talking about women as victims. that's why he is sticking up for rob porter on friday. they can't start getting into the details on what a liability interim security clearance is of course. as you point out, the son-in-law can't get a full one. rules are out the window in this administration, as you know.

especially within the west wing. they're doing what they want to do. they have made that perfectly clear that they don't really consider those things, you know, disqualifying for the son-in-law or for rob porter or anyone else. that's a separate issue. the fact that this domestic violence thing is different than sexual harassment really needs to be underlined. it is clear that the white house really didn't believe this was a huge potent issue and liability until they saw the photographs. president trump is very visual. he's obsessed with television. and he knew that those photographs were going to be repeated on air. and that changed his mind. axios is reporting that president trump thinks people who beat their wives are sick, even though he stuck up for rob porter and said nothing about the women on friday on coupamer >> it's not like the photograph had the president coming out and saying, hey, this is an issue. we have both pictures side by side. he did that with al franken.

he said it's really sad when you look at that picture, i'm paraphrasing here. he said that picture of franken is worth a thousand words, essentially. and the picture of colbie is worth how many? really quick on security clearances. cnn has been reporting for some time, as we are looking into this, dozens of people, 30 to 40, not just jared kushner and up until a few days ago rob porter, missing the security clearances and still working it out. >> maybe they can't give attention because they are vulnerable, especially on kushner. >> when does it catch up and when does that actually get dealt with? >> i don't know when it catches up. it's got to be leadership in washington that dresses this point. i fear a lot of people in the public hear this and think, oh, you know, this is winding and carling about what official washington does. we sent donald trump there to be a change agent and we're not going to pay attention of these things. which is further erosion that

people look the other way on. people say hasn't he shaken up washington. >> and once again, we do this on the show often. do you hear that? that's the silence from mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. ryan talked about what's presidential and what isn't when obama was in there. once again, another moment that screamed for their leadership missed. >> david, a.b., appreciate it. thank you both. the immigration debate taking off in the senate today. can lawmakers get a deal done for dreamers? a congressman at the center of the negotiations joins us next. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn't stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that's why we'll always drive a subaru.

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the trump white house has said a lot in defense of former white house aide rob porter and chief of staff john kelly. they can't seem to get it straight when it comes to the scandal rocking the west wing. let's discuss with congressman from florida, carlos ribello.

>> good to be here from miami. >> the message we are hearing out of the white house. if you were advising the white house, what should the message be? >> i think it's important for them to be transparent and explicit about who knew what, when and why it took so long to act. if i heard someone on my team, there were serious domestic abuse allegations, i would take action as quickly as possible. we don't know that that's what happened in the white house. and i think we need further explanation. >> is the president's messaging on this appropriate? is it what you would advise as commander in chief of? >> well, no. especially after looking at those pictures, we have to really express the concern and the pain we feel for those women. obviously someone abused them.

we don't know the details. we're not here to convict anyone. but obviously they abused their victims. they should be treated and talked about as such. and i understand the president said we shouldn't rush to condemn people. that doesn't mean we ignore the pain and the suffering of the victims of domestic abuse, which is real and serious. >> a lot of this, especially the last couple of months, has been boiling down political lives which is disturbing for a number of people who have lived through it. jenny willoughby wrote, ultimately this is a not a political issue. this is a society krall issue. the tone has just been reset by the white house. if the most powerful people in the nation do not believe my story in the face of

overwhelming evidence, then what hope do we have to others have of being heard? how much of that is impacting women out there who are concerned about their voices being heard? >> well, this is a very important point. there's not a republican truth and a democratic truth in our country. and there's not a pro trump truth and anti trump truth. there is one truth. and i think all of on us, especially those in leadership positions, those who have been elected by communities to represent them, need to stand by the truth. and we need to stand by what is decent and what is appropriate. and especially when it comes to these issues of the treatment of women, whether sexual harassment or sexual abuse or domestic abuse. whatever it is. there is one truth, which is all of this is wrong. it is all unacceptable no matter if a republican or democrat does

it. i think you have seen congress come together on some of these issues in a way that is somewhat encouraging. we need everyone else in our country to do it as well. and we need people to act the way they would want to have their children see them act. and i tell people a lot of times, i off think about my daughters you and the way that they would perceive these things. what i teach them and the way i conduct myself whether in public debate or weighing issues should be consistent with what iowa want my children to learn at home and at school. i need to work a little harder to put our political difference the aside when it comes to basic truths, rally around those so we can have a more successful and

happier society we can be proud of. >> i want to get your take on immigration. this is near and dear to you. you were hoping for a path to citizenship for dreamers. you brought a dreamer to the state of the union. the senate taking this up today. you spoke with paul ryan last week and you said he gave his strongest commitment yet that daca legislation will be considered on the floor of the house. did he commit to open debate? >> well, the speaker agreed to considering a legislation on the house floor. i'll tell you why this is so significant. in 2013, the senate went first, passed a strong comprehensive bill. 2013 passed, 2014 passed, and the house did absolutely nothing. and the guarantee that i wanted before last week's vote on the bipartisan budget agreement was this time was going to be different. that the house was actually going to take action on on immigration. i cannot guarantee any outcomes. and the speaker can't either.

because we need 218 or so votes in the house. but the fact that immigration legislation is going to be considered in the house is a major development. it's wonderful news. i look forward to what happens in the senate this week and maybe next. we know it will be a robust, bipartisan debate is and that a consensus product should emerge. i would like to see a similar process in the house. but as long as the house moves immigration legislation, we can then go to conference and get a product that a lot of members can support. that's the goal. by the way, it would be historic. we have been debating immigration reform in this country for a very long time. the time for action is now. >> and we'll be watch to go see what that action is. in terms of the speaker of the house, jim jordan over the weekend is saying there are some issues with paul ryan. take a listen. >> he could have stood firm from the position that we passed earlier in the week. the position that our conference then supported.

i wish he would have done that. do i think the speaker has problems? yes, i do. particularly now as we head into this big immigration debate. >> does paul ryan have problems here? do you have faith in the speaker of the house? >> i certainly do. and i don't think paul ryan has problems at all beyond the challenges of being speaker of the house, which we don't know how difficult a job it is. but that criticism is coming from the wing of the republican party that does not see politics as the art of the possible. they see it as a measure of our differences. and that's just wrong. when you're a congressional leader, you have to work across the aisle. you have to forge these bipartisan compromises. and no compromise pleases anyone fully. however, that's the nature of the system we're in. by the way, for a lot of these conservatives that call themselves constitutionalists, this is what the founding fathers envisioned. republicans and democrats,

people with different perspectives coming together and forging compromises. the reason we know that is because our constitution is replete with compromises. so it's unfortunate that some in the house republican conference are, again, trying to start trouble when they know all paul ryan is doing is what any congressional leader has to do, which is to sit at the table and reach a compromise so we can fund the federal government. chuck schumer isn't 100% happy with the deal that was cut. nancy pelosi isn't either. she actually whipped against it, even though she signed off it. think about that. so paul ryan is doing the benefit we can with institutions that require people to work together. >> we are going to have to leave it there. appreciate your time. thanks again. >> all right. you all have a good day. adam schiff will meet with the fbi to discussion actions for the democratic memo president trump decided not to release. will anything change?

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all right. so here's the latest. congressman adam schiff, ranking democrat on the house intel committee, blasting the president for refusing to release the democratic rebuttal to the controversial gop memo that alleges surveillance abuses. schiff says the hypocrisy kind of reaches out and grabs you by the throat. joining us now is democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. always good to have you on the show. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> what do we know? there is an apparent double standard going on here. reading through the notes of the white house counsel about why they were okay releasing the nunes memo doesn't seem to be the same standard. they don't even cite the same executive guidelines in doing it. is that how you feel? this is just politics? >> yeah. this is very simply the white house saying over the objections of the department of justice and fbi we'll release the nunes memo. when the counter factual, rebuttal to the nunes memo comes

out and the fbi and the department of justice, well, now those concerns are to be taken seriously. this is a charade, chris, to keep information that would show the nunes memo for what it is, which was conjecture and ill-founded allegations, they are determined to keep that from the public. >> have you seen schiff's memo? >> the democratic memo? >> yeah. >> sure. >> is there fair criticism that there is stuff in your memo that may need to be redacted and it is a different use of classified information than the nunes memo? >> i don't think so. the initial outing of the fisa application, which is a big deal. the government has never done that before. it happened with the nunes memo. so now the american public knows there was a fisa application made on carter page, that's a big deal. now to say it points to other

elements to refute, rebut the contention that, for example, the steele information, the steele dossier information was critical to it. but, no, the big deal is making that fisa application public to begin with. it is all a big deal. the point is that the white house didn't care one eye owe ta for what the department of justice or the fbi thought the first time around. but now that there is a prebulls, now they have to take classification seriously. >> all right. so assuming, and i heard schiff is going to meet with the fbi and go over what the concerns may be in terms of redacted material. true? >> that's right. we don't have a choice but to have that exercise. >> good. so you go and meet with them. assuming they can make recommendations that you guys are comfortable with, you do not need the president to declassify this and make it public. you have immunity for debate on the floor of the congress. once you get the clearance from the fbi, you can read whatever you want into the congressional record. you can't do whatever you want on the floor of congress and get immunity, but why not go that way? >> well, i think unlike the

release of the nunes memo, which was political, designed in an in artful way against the president's argument that the whole russia thing is a hoax, as he puts it, we're being careful here. we don't want to -- we're uncomfortable with the establishment of a precedent for political reasons, this happened with the nunes information, for political reasons, it gets out there. we don't want to do that. we want to say, hey, we're not going to be political. we want the rebuttal out there. but we do want to listen to the fbi. something that the president did not afford the fbi when the nunes memo was released. >> all right. next topic. in an oversight capacity, what is congress, to your knowledge, willing to do about what is now a pretty glaring problem in the white house when it comes to these clearances? rob porter had only a temporary clearance, even though he was there a long time. they hear the word secretary and

stick that goes into play. they don't understand how important this position is and how much classified the most sensitive classified information we have goes through this individual's hands to the president, jared kushner. dozens of changes to his disclosure forms. still doesn't have clearance. as many as 30 or more. what can you do about it? >> that's absolutely right. >> they're not doing anything. they could do this, but they aren't, apparently. >> an administration that got elected by criticizing hillary clinton's, the way she handled classified information. chris, when you go into the oval office, you leave your blackberry and iphone behind. conversations that happened in there almost inevitably touch on classified information. so you have all of these people, as you point out, who don't have yet security clearances handling some of the most sensitive information that we have. your question is, does congress have a role? of course we do. i would argue that the homeland security, judiciary committee, intelligence committees have an

interest in making sure the executive safeguards information. this isn't an abstract thing. if talk is loose, if people who shouldn't have access to classified information do. sources are people, people around this planet are at risk. this is something congress should look into it. more so, the president should fix this immediately. >> so infrastructure. many believe it should have been his first effort right out of the box. after the spending caps you guys just blew through. it is going to be hard. it is innovative. it works on some levels. i have never seen it dup on this scale. can your state shoulder its burden to do infrastructure under this plan? it falls to the state and the localities to match the money

that the fed gives. >> yeah. it's clear we're going to need some traditional federal money. you're never going to build it purely with public-private partnerships. an in tpfrastructure bank, something we have been talking about for a long time. the tax overhaul blew a hole in our budget. the spending bill is of course a whole lot more money. now we are close to one of the most urgent priorities. you worry you are going to shake the piggy bank and nothing is going to be in there. we have to be creative not just about financing. look at laguardia airport. that is being rebuilt completely with a public-private partnership. the problem is, chris, that doesn't work everywhere. you are not going to build a new highway through the state of montana with a public-private partnership. >> right. >> it is classic politics. everybody is saying this is really, really important but nobody has ideas how to pay for

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israel's cross-border clash escalating hostilities along the northern border. anis raily plane came under fire and crashed. >> reporter: erica, this is the first time israel has openly struck iranian targets in syria, ma since the start of the civil war. let me walk you through what happened over the weekend. this starts saturday morning when an iranian drone enters israeli airspace. notably, that is a copy of an american drone that iran intercepted back in 2011, and at the time was supposed to be stealth. it downs it and retaliates by striking the command and control center in syria. in that strike, syrian anti-aircraft missile downs anis raily fighter jet for the first time in 35 years. they strike back hitting syrian

targets. that military tension peaked saturday afternoon. even as the rhetoric and the threatening language keeps flying back and forth, the military tension, the escalation there has ebbed a little bit and the tension itself has eased. but you get a sense who the regional players are and who is looking. chris, netanyahu spoke with putin saturday night. putin took an even-handed approach, urging both sides to deescalate. russia and putin have ties with all the players here, israel, syria, iran. russia has the leverage to tell both sides to back off. there was a call to secretary of state tillerson. he is notably not visiting israel. >> that is painfully apparent to many. orrin, thank you very much. keep us in the loop on how this develops. news of an explosion and fire at a substation that caused a blackout in parts of northern

puerto rico, including san juan. officials say this was a mechanical failure, which caused the fire and was quickly ex extinguished. this is the late et setback for the u.s. territory's effort to fully restore power five months after hurricane maria. >> we want to show you now live pictures. this is live pictures of the active search for any remains of a passenger plane that crashed near moscow sunday. the crew did not report any problems before the plane went down. all 71 people on board were killed. the plane disappearing from radar shortly after takeoff. witnesses report seeing an explosion. you see surveillance video here. witnesses again saying they believe there was an explosion before the plane went down. moscow experiencing its heaviest snowfall in decade. it is not clear whether the weather played any role to the

crash. all right. so going on this morning, we're going to take you to some aerial views that show the rugged terrain where a sight-seeing helicopter went down in the grand canyon. i know we just told you about another plane crash. this is totally unrelated. different place, different circumstances. we do know there were six passengers aboard. all visiting from the uk. three of those people are now dead. three others, along with the pilot, airlifted to a nevada hospital. they are said to be in critical condition. and i'll tell you, looking at the pictures, it is amazing anyone survived. >> i had the exact same thought in seeing that. sprepl court justice ginsburg is speaking out about the me too movement, telling poppy harlow it will have staying power. and she also called for equal rights amendment. take a listen. >> i don't think that there will be a series of backlash. it is too widespread. my concern is that it shouldn't

stop with prominent people. it is amazing to me that for the first time women are really listened to because sexual harassment had often been dismissed to, well, she made it up. or she's too thin skinned. so i think it's a very healthy development. >> i think we can call it a healthy development. >> yeah. and, look, you know, the sad part of the reality of what the justice proposed is playing out now in the white house. what else do you describe? does the president say, well, i'm going to take his side. he's a good guy. a lot of these women, they lie. >> yeah. >> so let's keep that in mind. that's exactly what's happening right now. >> at least consistency, i

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. president trump defending a former aide who resigned following allegations of domestic violence. this is not the first time that the president has sided with men accused of hurting women but now in the face of the me too movement, president trump's former chief strategist steve bannon, suggests that movement could take down the president. he doesn't say it in a way that's very constructive or realistic. it's a new interview by joshua green in the new paper back edition for those of you who like books that bend of the devil's bargain. steve bannon, donald trump and the storming of the presidency comes out tomorrow. i have my copyright here conspicuously not signed by the

author, a pet peeve. it is good to have you with us. >> not signed yet. >> thank you very much. i look forward to it. it is important perspective at this time. what is bannon's take on what the me too movement, which he refers to, which is why i qualified it as the anti-pat tri arcy movement. what does this mean to him and the fate of the president? >> one of the news story of the book is bannon sitting in his darkened room watching the golden globes and full my naturing about this women's movement that is encroaching on the rights of men and threatens trump and republicans who bannon doesn't think are taking this movement seriously enough. he says i don't know if i can say this on the air on a morning show but bannon was so upset with what oprah and the actresses were saying, if you rolled out a gee ateen she'd chop off every set of male

genitalia in the room right now and say this is all a backlash to trump. he's the national pat tri arc. >> do you think bannon really believes that being pro-woman, pro-protection of everyone, pro-feminist is the same as being anti-male? do you think he believes that? >> i think he believes that this movement is directed unfairly at a lot of men who don't deserve it but the real point he was trying to make is that the trump white house and republicans aren't sufficiently aware of the political threat this poses to them. bannon, despite all his flaws, is very good at recognizing political bash lash. that's what he saw in the culture two years ago that gave rise to trump. >> why didn't he see his own fate coming? how long did he think he could

trash the president's family and get away with it? >> intro inspection isn't one of his biggest qualities but spotting national anxieties and bash lashes i think is. what he's saying to me in this book is that he thinks me too is going to be the end of trump presidency and he even spins out a scenario where oprah who's gained so much currency on this issue could campaign for house democrats this cycle, tilt the house to democrats who could turn around and impeach trump. bannon, i guess, is trying to sound the alarm here and if you look at what is gone on in the white house in the of the last week with the epic mishandling of the spousal abuse scandal, white house officials initially coming to defend porter and now coming to defend kelly after his mishandling of the scandal, i think it points up the fact that the white house really is tone deaf on this issue and all the attention has been defending the president, defending kelly and almost none of it has been about

the victims here, the wives. >> the context of what the white house did and what the allegations of domestic abuse, remember this isn't about stepping out on a spouse, this isn't about a story coming out from one woman saying that someone was inappropriate at work. this is about violence, domestic abuse, something that's all too real, a scourge on the society. that's that. with bannon examining him, is he in contact with the president? does he believe he is done so in terms of his influence on the politics of this country? >> i don't know that bannon has had contact with the president. that's one of the things i tried to find out over the last couple of weeks. he certainly thinks i think that he can maneuver his way back into trump's good graces eventually. i think he understands that trump is his ticket to relevance. the doghouse has resolving door. trump will fire people like corey lewandowski and reince priebus and turn around and

reach out to them a couple months later as he has been recently. it wouldn't be that shocking if at some point especially if this chaos continues, that trump might decide i need a new perspective, i'm going to reach out to steve bannon again. >> that would really be something if he went back to bannon. does bannon have a next trick up his sleeve? he's got a new movement, new initiative, new money. >> it's not clear that he does. he's working on a c-4. i know he's been out fund-raising. he had quite a fall after trump broke with him. he lost his big ben factor. i do think that it's interesting that he is sounding the laerp about the me too movement and perceives what a threat this could be to a republican. there don't seem to be a lot of republicans certainly not in the white house that share that view, at least not based on how they've been acting in the last couple of weeks. >> to most people who are politically minded you would see

the #metoo movement has something to embrace and something to empower on a systematic level. it's just been about bold face names. >> if your commander-in-chief is tweeting in defense of the alleged attacker saying nothing whatsoever about the victims in this, i think that sends a completely different message. what's important here is to fight back against the women, not necessarily the men who are abusing them. >> right. except his mistake and it is a mistake, i don't care what anybody says, you don't have to support the president to support the mistakes. you can do both at the same time and you can also call out his mistakes. it's an opportunity for other republicans what just happened here as we've been saying this morning, you hear that josh, that's the silence of mcconnell and ryan and yet another moment of leadership. thank you for the update on the book. the paperback version right here if you pay a little extra, you can get it signed. i couldn't make it happen for myself. thank you very much. we're following a lot of

news this morning. let's get after it. we're following a lot of information. >> it was very sad when we heard about it and certainly he's also very sad. >> he continues to not speak up for the people who have been abused for their abusers. >> he says general kelly is doing a great job. >> there's no way he didn't know about this. he's up to his neck in it and he chose not to deal with it. >> we've got to hear from john kelly as to what he knew. >> the senate set to begin debating immigration today. >> let's secure our border and let's solve the problem for the daca recipients and dreamers. >> we're a few weeks away from the march deadline and we still don't have a resolution here. >> what's being proposed in the senate is not going to be acceptable to conservatives in the house. >> it's real debate on an issue on we don't know what the outso many is going to be. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota.

>> erica hill joining me right now. thank you for propping me up this year. >> thanks for inviting me back. >> the trump white house can't get the story straight on the scandal rocking the west wing for the last week. trump aides continue to defend john kelly over his handling or mishandling of the domestic abuse allegations that led to rob porter resigning. the president following a pattern that we have seen time and again and it must be called out. defending men accused of sexual misconduct without basis. it's not like he knows things that exonerates the men. at the same time dismissing women who allege abuse. >> it is also a big day on capitol hill for the senate. debate beginning today on immigration. republican senators will introduce the president's plan which faces an uphill battle to get passed. can congress strike a deal to protect dreamers. that $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan the big question, of course, where does all the money come from? we've got a lot