>> erica hill joining me right now. thank you for propping me up this year. >> thanks for inviting me back. >> the trump white house can't get the story straight on the scandal rocking the west wing for the last week. trump aides continue to defend john kelly over his handling or mishandling of the domestic abuse allegations that led to rob porter resigning. the president following a pattern that we have seen time and again and it must be called out. defending men accused of sexual misconduct without basis. it's not like he knows things that exonerates the men. at the same time dismissing women who allege abuse. >> it is also a big day on capitol hill for the senate. debate beginning today on immigration. republican senators will introduce the president's plan which faces an uphill battle to get passed. can congress strike a deal to protect dreamers. that $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan the big question, of course, where does all the money come from? we've got a lot to cover.

let's begin with caitlin collins who's live at the white house. >> reporter: it is in six days since rob porter resigned over these domestic abuse allegations and the white house is still struggling to give a consistent explanation over who knew what and when all as the president's public remarks over these allegations are raising questions of just how seriously he's taking them. top white house aides doing disagree controls denying reports that president trump is considering replacing chief-of-staff john kelly amid criticism over his handling of the domestic abuse allegations against his right hand man rob porter. >> i spoke to the president and he said please tell jake that i have full faith in chief-of-staff john kelly and that i'm not actively searching for replacement. i saw that all over the news today. i have faith in him. >> reporter: motorcycle mulvaney down playing reports that he's being considered for kelly's jobs. >> i love the job i have now.

the chief-of-staff is doing a really good job. >> reporter: this even as some republicans are calling on kelly to explain why he continued to elevate porter's profile in the west wing despite learning about the allegations months ago. >> i think in the end, we've got to hear from john kelly as to what he knew. i think the president needs to hear that before he can make an evaluation of kprens. >> reporter: multiple aides insisting that the president is disturbed about the allegation and sympathic to his accusers. >> i think the president like the rest of us were shocked and disturbed by the allegations. this is not the rob porter any of us have worked with but george, you're looking at contemporaneous police reports, at pictures, at allegations by these women. >> reporter: this characteristicization a stark contrast to the president's tweet over the weekend declaring peoples' lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. after he expressed sympathy for porter friday but said nothing about his alleged victims.

>> we certainly wish him well. it's obviously a tough time for him. he says he's innocent and i think you have to remember that. >> reporter: porter's second wife slamming mr. trump's response in an essay for "time" magazine writing that the president's words were quote, meant to imply that i am a liar. willoughby adding that despite mr. trump's dismissal i want to ensure you that my truth has not been diminished. axios is reporting that porter has been telling associates that some senior white house officials strongly encouraged him to stay and fight rather than resign. porter reportedly also maintaining that he never misrepresented anything to kelly as the white house continues to insist they were misled. >> under the circumstances, it wasn't entirely forge coming and the photographs took everybody bill surprise. >> reporter: so definitely a messy trail of conflicting statements. the white house is seeking to really change the tune here today by unveiling it's

$1.5 trillion infrastructure plan and as you can see from these live pictures the president's second budget has just opinion delivered to capitol hill. >> thank you very much. joining us now david gregory and a.b. stoddard. help me with this. the president has tweeted this morning talking about his infrastructure plan. he is not a plan who's known to be stymied by his own deliberations. if mick mulvaney who we like and respect. there's an open invitation, if mulvaney is right and when the president saw the picture, that was very startling to him, one, that assumes that he didn't know about this all too damn well before as did other members of that white house but even if that's true david, why didn't he tweet about it then when he saw this picture? why do we have to have these other things that maybe you and i have been hearing from those around the president, he really doesn't like people who do this?

why hasn't he said anything, david, if he was so moved by this photo? >> because that's not him. he reluctantly comes around to doing in this case the appropriate thing when there's enough information, however late it comes, however much deceit or bunningling before hand when they say we've got a situation, we have to get rid of this guy and he's not going to stand in the way of that but at the same time then he'll come out publicly and issue a statement not saying anything about the women who have been abused and then he'll take it to the next step and i feel cornered let me just completely distract from this and let's get into a big cultural war moment here, this whole me too movement is overblown, what about due process? that's where his thinking takes him and has taken him all along. who knows exactly, i don't think we know yet, how much this bubbled up to the president until it got to the place where there was clearly a mess within the white house about what john kelly was telling people, who

knew what and these pictures came out that they realize they had a huge problem. >> and to your point, the president legitimately may not have known prior when john kelly was dealing with some of this stuff. the fact that john kelly was dealing with all of this and seemingly for a fair amount of time, people in the white house who knew things. we knew -- security clearance was not all in order at that point, when do we hear next from john kelly on this? >> that's the most complicated aspect of this whole thing is that john kelly a week ago was someone we all thought was this sort of stabilizing influence within the white house, people did not want him to leave and we certainly did not consider him a liar and what is so alarming is that there are reports coming out of staffers going to the press and saying over and over again that the last half of last week, he did not tell us the truth and then he asked us to go out with a version of the story that is not the truth.

john kelly may have hid this -- hidden this from president trump and, again, i think he had complicated reasons for doing so. i think that he's in a position where he believes that rob porter was very capable and he wants people around him who he believes are very capable in an otherwise turbulent environment and that's the decision he made. it was the wrong one but it might have been for complicated reasons. the idea that john kelly is actually someone who doesn't tell the truth is really a new development here that i think will ultimately lead in the end to him losing his job. when you heard kellyanne who had to go out on sunday and clean up for that tweet that was really upsetting to a lot of people about how dismissive it was of women and talking about due process, she was out there talking about all the jobs he's created for women and everything but she also made sure to use language that he told me to tell you, jake, he has faith in john kelly. you can have faith in john kelly and still fire him. he isn't actively looking to

replace him and he's certainly conversing with people and floating names around and allowing people like chris christie who want the job and others to be talking about john kelly's performance. i think it's really -- i think there's a lot of doom over john kelly's job right now. >> isn't it interesting how this white house works, which is the president really doesn't mind how chaotic it looks. he's not closing the drapes. everything is wide open. you can see inside because they leak incredibly including the president himself, where there's talk about always talking to reince priebus for advice, he's undermining this one and that one, he's checking to see if this one could replace that one. they don't care how bad they look. what they want the public to believe is first of all, she does cleanup as a.b. says for what the president has done. try to emphasize the good parts of his record and try to say, don't pay attention to what he says or what he tweets, but we got rid of the guy. that's what should matter. can't we move on?

that is part of this dichotomy. the president is willing to say, we got to get rid of this guy, now let me go out publicly for my reality show and stir up my supporters and create that energy. what's important to remember here in this election year is how much energy there is in the country that the president wants to stir up among those faithful to him who will come out and vote for republicans. >> that's what we've been taking on this morning is twitter. he did the wrong thing here with how he handled it. he just did. this is domestic violence. it's a reality. it's a scourge. he blew that moment. he could've fixed it. he doesn't want it. his supporters are echoing. my time line is filled with people mitigating the reality of domestic abuse and playing this stupid game what aboutism. what about all the victims of immigrants? that's the cost of the president's hubris on this issue.

now the people who follow him also ignore the same, that's the problem. >> i really think that's obviously detrimental to people who are seriously violent situations and they need to be heard and this is a scourge that needs to be -- that needs to be mitigated. i think that if you look at this politically, though, we are far beyond whether or not president trump is going to change his view on this, represent victims. we're far beyond the hypocrisy of evangelical republicans. i look at this through the prism of congressional republicans. david's talking about goosing the energy of trump supporters that turn out for republicans. they don't like republicans. they like president trump and he's not on the ballot. his picking and choosing where he can come and campaign they need to hold to retain their gentleman majority, it's very tricky for republicans. they need to separate themselves from him on this issue because in their silent they look like they're acquiescing. the women voters that could

decide the midterm election should be far more important to these republicans right now than rob porter or john kelly or president trump. they should come out and say, look, this is really wrong and this is really frightening and these victims need to be heard. >> here's where i disagree with a.b. a little bit where that could certainly be true. we've been wrong in this kind of thinking about accessing republican prospects before or even prescribing that they should separate for trump which seems to make good political sense. i just think about the people who are not on the twitter timeline who are -- who are paying a different level of attention to trump than we who cover him day in and day out are or the political class or those who are so invested that they're on social media battling every day and there's a different level of attention and they're the ones who seem -- a lot of them seem to be more susceptible to the idea there's too much obsessiveness by the media and hatred of trump by the media. he got rid of the guy and he's

saying something, you know, for a lot of people, there should be due process. so they're not paying attention in the same way to how governance is being undermine here or how the reality show. >> that's our job, david. >> it is. they may not be paying attention to the way governance is undermined they may not be as invested in the government's point and the conversation moving forward is less about how is the governing happening and more is where the moral compass and social responsibility and to the point which a.b. was making, where is the leadership outside of the president, where the republican leadership on this? where's mitch mcconnell, where's paul ryan? why are we not hearing more specifically related to this issue? >> they'll say because they want to get their agenda in place. one winds up frustrating the other. the president's time line this morning, he's talking about opioids and big week for infrastructure. he's right. it's his own mouth and what he

says and doesn't say that winds up directing attention away from it. >> yeah, and -- look, chris, it was obvious that on saturday night after that tweet a bunch of level headed thinking people including kellyanne conway decided it was time for a cleanup on aisle three and that's why she came out to talk about his record on the economy with women because she had to steer the conversation away from that due process twee that so many people saw as a mistake. where's romney mcdaniel? where are the women standing up? they don't have to separate themselves from president trump on his record but this is something we all take seriously and we have to take more seriously. to david's point, that's right. it's the energized voters who are upset about what trump says that probably will turn out the fall and not the ones he thinks liked him in 2016. >> we'll have to leave it there. appreciate it. thank you. a suspect now charged in the shooting deaths of two ohio

police officers this weekend. quentin lamar smith is facing two counts of ag dwra advocated murder. the officers were responding to a domestic abuse call when they say the suspect opened fire killing them as they entered the home. southwest airlines forced to cancel more than 250 flights at chicago's airport on sunday. a big winter storm was the reason. that's what they say. they ran out of deicing fluid. southwest says they expected delivery to come with that fluid today. hopes to resume close to normal operations at midway. the sale of harvey weinstein film studio is on hold and in jeopardy. eric schneiderman filed a lawsuit against the disgraced mov movie mogul. he wants any sale to include compensation for weinstein's accusers. all right. take a look at this. monday morning.

did you see that? this truck was carrying liquified natural gas in china. it burst into flames on this major expressway. two people inside suffering burns, three vehicles near the truck also burned but here's the deal. everybody got out without serious injuries. look at this. >> amazing. >> firefighters say the leak natural gas may cause a flowing fire forcing them to shut down that part of the expressway. >> it amazes me what takes life and what people are able to survive. the line between the two is often not really begielg. the rob porter abuse allegations matter and do raise some national security questions. this man didn't have a permanent clearance and he was looking at the most classified information there is. so what's congress going to do about the lack of security clearances around the president, including his son-in-law?

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officials are still working without full security clearances, among those on the list, porter and trump adviser and son-in-law jared kushner. let's discuss with congressman jerry nadler of new york. congressman, good to see you. i have two what are you going to do about dot dot dot questions. the first one is this, you have oversight over this. what can congress do to make sure that the people working around the highest seat of power in our democracy have the right backgrounds to have clearance? >> there are a number of issues that we asked the chairman bob goodlatte on. we should certainly hold hearings on all these characters who have -- who can't get security clearance. remember, it's just not the jared kushner hanging out for a year with no permanent security clearance because the fbi won't give it to him and porter and also michael flynn national security adviser who couldn't get the security clearance when

he was an unregistered foreign agent and others. this is a real threat to national security. >> you don't think it's just bureaucracy, the white house pushback is, it's backlog and bureaucracy, unusual diverse backgrounds and financial portfolios. >> i cannot believe that the president's son-in-law would not have gotten a permanent security clearance long since it was just bureaucracy. we know he hid a lot of things and that may have been one of the problems. he didn't admit a lot of contacts with russians. we have never seen in any prior administration this kind of lack of security clearances. these security clearances should have been granted a long time ago and if they weren't there are reasons for it and those reasons could endanger our national security and we should have hearings on this, clearly. >> kushner says that some of our most -- most of the of the 39 revisions he's had to make were either clerical errors or just because of the diversity of his financial background and him want to go offer more and more information. >> well, i can't comment on the accuracy of his filings except

to say that we know he omitted all the contacts we had with russians and there were quite a few of them. that's not just clerical. >> another what are you going to to about dot dot dot, how about securing our deposition amocrac elections? we now know those trying to help russian interference actually got in to state databases, registration. no proof that they messed with any vote tabulations, god forbid, but, the threat is real. there's all this yip app going on. we still don't know about anything to make it better. >> the threat is real. we've asked the committee to hold health hearings on this because the administration is refusing -- i mean, all the administration people except the president admit that the russians attacked our elections, everyone. the head of the cia, the state department, everybody admits the russians attacked our elections and tried to subvert our election process. they all say they will do it

again. the only one who seems to doubt this is the president and because he doubts this, because this is a threat to his ego, i suppose, we're not doing anything to protect ourselves. we ought to protect ourselves. this is a very severe threat to the integrity of our election. >> i have cyber experts saying there's so many things that could be done. >> i'm sure there are. we have offensive and defensive capabilities in cybersecurity and some things ought to happen in russia. >> do you see any action coming on the horizon? >> to, i do not. this administration seems determined and the president seems determined not to do anything that might offend the russians and not do anything to protect us from an attack that the president won't admit occurred and is occurring despite the fact that all the people around him assert it. we know that the russians attacked 21 states infrastructure, apparently penetrated some of them. they didn't alter vote tally as far as we know. last time, they could next time.

this is as much as an attack on the united states as if there were bombs and pullets. it's an attack on our essential governing structure. there are ways that we can retaliate against the russia that they will know that they better stop. >> he didn't enforce the sanctions that you guys put forth. >> and disobeyed the law. we did not give the president a waiver as you usually do because we didn't trust the president, so congress by veto proof majorities mandated that he impose those sanctions. as far as i can tell he's breaking the law by not doing so. >> we haven't seen congressional pressure on that either. let me ask you something. why do the democrats want this memo to come out so much? the nunes memo, except for those that are most tightly supportive of conspiracy theory, this fell flat. i was looking in to it. why put out something to blow

some air on to the smoldering flames of that fire? that's what your memo's going to do. when the schiff memo comes out you're going to reawaken which one do i believe? >> i've read the schiff memo and nunes memo. the schiff memo will show how deliberately misleading and dishonest the nunes memo is and it is -- it is totally misleadi misleading. even the fbi says it was materially misleading. i think it's worth showing that you can't believe anything these people put out. >> you think it will change minds or will people stay on what side they want to be on? >> i think some minds will be changed. it's a very devastating document about the nunes memo. remember one thing, the whole thing, you're right, it's a tempest in a tea pot, the point of the nunes memo is to distract attention from the real problem which is the -- the real subject

which is the mueller investigation of the fact that the russians attacked our elections, that people in the trump campaign, some people in the trump campaign clearly cooperated with that. you want to find out whether that includes the president or not but that collusion, that joining in the criminal conspiracy which is what it was to hack the democratic national committee, to subvert our election, that's what we ought to be paying attention to and to make sure that doesn't happen again. what the nunes memo is, san attempt by congressional republicans to join the trump administration in distracting and distracting attention from that and discrediting the fbi and discrediting the mueller investigation so when they come out with their reports fewer people will believe it. the whole point is to distract, discredit and disable. it's like a monty game. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. erica. president trump's budget just arriving on capitol hill.

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this scandal, that's what it is surrounding former white house aide rob porter continues to grow with the president praising and defending porter in the face of domestic abuse allegations by two of porter's ex-wives. joining us now is congressman month brooks of alabama. a member of the house freedom caucus. always good to see your face, congressman. >> my pleasure, chris. >> let's start with something that's obvious and then get into some more subtle matters of politics. when it comes to supporting women who are victims of abuse, do you believe that there is a responsibility on leaders like yourself and certainly to president of the united states to step up and recognize that reality? >> i think that there's responsibility on all of our parts to make sure that we know what the evidence is and have the facts at hand before making a decision. all too often there's a rush to

judgment. i'm a graduate of duke university. i remember very well that duke lacrosse team where one person, lady, accused the team of engaging in sexual assaults, ruining their reputations for a considerable period of time, disrupting their season, and then after everything was said and done, when the evidence all came in, it turned out that she was lying for whatever reason, they were innocent and a district attorney was removed from office. i'm not real fond -- i'm a litigator. it takes a while to accumulate the evidence for you to build and make an informed judgment and that's what we need to do in these kinds of situations. i'll defer -- >> go ahead he. >> i'll defer personal matters to the people in charge and the courts will be the ones that will make the ultimate disposition. >> i hear what you're saying about duke. i know it all too well. the prosecutors name was nooi fung. he got thrown out because he lied. he knew that crystal was probably telling him a bogus story but he liked the public

isty and note rite of that. we helped change the timeline that was fundamental to revealing that the story about those young men down there was false. i hear you on that. i don't understand the parallel to the current situation. if somebody comes to you and says this woman's got a black eye, there was an order of protection, there's another woman who echos the same type of sentiments about this situation, that's not nothing. i'm not talking about where someone came forward and said i don't like the may mo brooks treated me at the office and has nothing else to support it. this was real here and ignored in order to support someone that the white house liked. >> chris, to me, this is kind of soap opera news. i'm not in a position -- >> domestic violence is soap opera news. >> i haven't looked at the evidence. i haven't talked to a single witness who has personal knowledge and i really much prefer if i'm going to be on your show to talk about public

policy matters, deficit, immigration, things of that nature. when you talk about personnel matters or what's going on behind closed doors in a marital relationship that i know nothing about, i'm just not comfortable commenting on that. >> i hear you that you don't know the facts. let me give you one chance to clear something up. you don't see domestic violence as some matter that what happens behind closed doors? you know in your state it is a major problem. i looked at the numbers last night. it's a scourge in your society, women are brutalized on a regular basis, the men are not punished. it's different than other assaults in your state and others. this is a real situation. it's not just a personal matter, you'll recognize that, no, congressman? >> i was an assistant district attorney and i was the district attorney in madison county and i'm familiar with prosecutions of this kind of domestic abuse, assaults and, yes, it does occur and, yes, when there is an assault, criminal activity, it needs to be punished.

>> all right. will leave it at that. keep it in the front burner of importance. let's talk policy. you've been asked to swallow a lot in this administration. this tax policies going to balloon the deficit. you guys were pushed into voting for it within your party. the spending caps that were just blown through, the party wound up giving enough votes to get it through, now in infrastructure offer is coming from the president. it's going to cost 200 billion, that's the estimate from the federal government and then push states to have to match the money. that's a lot asking for you guys to swallow. will you? will you be in favor of this type of infrastructure spending? >> i haven't seen the details so i'm not in a position to make an evaluation, i'm very much concerned about our deficit and debt and here's where we are. spending sob totally out of control. it looks like we'll have a trillion dollars deficit this year. when i came in one of the motivations was to stop the obama era deficit string and now

the republicans are doing just as bad as obama and nancy pelosi and harry reid did in 2009 and 2010 when they had control of the united states government. >> you got to say worse, month, because the spending ratio had been down. you just blew through those caps now the ratio's higher now. >> look, i voted against the spending deal. >> i know you did. >> i think it was a debt junkies dream. i think it jeopardizes the future of our country. i cannot use words that describe how dangerous this situation is. but it is extremely dangerous to put the united states in a position where we may go insolvent and bankrupt sometime in the near future. now, spending cuts is where we ought to go but obviously as you've seen that's not going to happen. spending restraints is the next best thing. but as you've seen that's not going to happen with this congress and white house. massive tax increases in the neighbor of 40, 50, 60% income tax increase whatever it may be

to balance out a trillion dollars deficit. that isn't going to happen. when you talk about the tax cuts that are happening in december, it's a hail mary pass in a football game to minimize the risk of national insolvency or bankruptcy. you're hoping and in a football game it's a one in five chance but you're hoping you're able to stimulate economic growth enough so where you have lower tax rates, stronger economy, more revenue because you have a stronger gross domestic product. i'll readily concede it's a hail mary pass. it's the only option you have left. when you have a congress and white house that can't strain the spending. >> your speaker, member of your party, paul ryan is saying it's more of a third and two is what he's saying. it's not a hail mary pass. this tax bill, he was behind it. he believes it's the right way to grow this economy. the spending caps, he was behind

that in order to create more. they'll say that they wanted to help the military and the military was held hostage so they had to do that but you know that this was a choice on his part. do you believe that the speaker has your full confidence? >> when you say if i believe the speaker has my full confidence -- >> do you back him as the speaker? >> i don't know of anyone else that is rung for speaker of the house and right now if i had to vote today on whether to retain paul ryan on the speaker of the house i would vote to do so. it's about a comparison. you have to have alternatives and paul ryan is it. he's got a very difficult situation interacting with this white house, this senate and all the different groups of congressman in the house of representatives and quite frankly, he's done a pretty good job of juggling five and ten and 15 balls all at the same time. very difficult task. and so i'm comfortable with paul ryan. do i have reservations about busting through the spending

caps last week and nondefense matters? absolutely. here's where we proposed a budget last year and we fought over with it with the democrats. the budg the democrats wanted a budget up here. i have reservations about the threat that poses. i have reservations on the impact that's going to have on the stock market. i have reservations about escalating interest rates. there are a lot of cascading effects to what was done last week in my judgment. it was the worse piece of legislation i have voted on since i've been in the united states congress and there's not another bill that's a close second. that's how bad that debt junky's dream bill was last week. it passed. i wish it hadn't. we are where we are. >> and for the record, mo

brooks, we never know until it happens. appreciate your candor. thank you for being on "new day" as always. >> thank you. up next a cnn exclusive, the u.s. military scrambling to add thousands of names to a gun banned list in the wake of that church massacre last november in texas. we'll explain why. [man] woah. ugh, i don't have my wallet, so - [girl 1] perfect! you can send a digital payment.

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a cnn exclusive now. the u.s. military we're learning has added thousands of dishon raably discharged military personnel to the fbi's list. that list which bans them from buying guns. this after a year's long bag log of reporting those names to the fbi. it comes after an ex-airman who should have been banned from owning a weapon killed two dozen church goers in a small texas town last november. cnn skregtive reporter joins us now. this is not just a few names of people who were missing, this is more than 4,000. >> right. this is not a partisan issue. there are laws on the books that are met to keep bad guys away

from guns. criminals, convicted criminals cannot get guns. when you try to buy one, you have to fill out a form and state that you haven't been dishon raably discharge pedestrian fred from the military. what we're learning now there was this huge backlog where the military was not submitting names to the fbi. the fbi had nothing to check. this report shows just how wide that gap actually was. there's at least 4,000 names that were just added after that shooting in november and this is just the start. >> if that's just the start, it also begs the question of, what do we mean when we say backlog? was it just the messages were not getting through? not enough people in those jobs that needed to pass on that information? how do we get to that number? >> there have been multiple inspector general reports from the military over the past 20 years that have touched on this. some of it is cultural. they didn't think this case was important enough to move on to the fbi. it's a document backlog.

they never got around to submitting the paper work. what we need to remember here is that this paper work needs to be submitted. it's just not that hard. if the military was able to add 4,000 names in just two months, you have to wonder two things, how many more names there are to add and why they couldn't do this before. >> more of your reporting can be found at cnn.com. thank you. important story there. president trump's response to the rob porter abuse scandal exposing a major disconnect with the me too movement. will the white house pass the credibility test after this crisis? part of the bottom line next. time to bask... in low prices!

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all right. what did we learn today? you combine an pattern truth abuse with an obvious disrespect of domestic abuse and security clearances and that is the recipe for major scandal in the white house. now, what is going to happen, how big a deal is this, how does it get corrected?

that is the starting point for our bottom line with david gregory. what do you supposed to do in this kind of situation and what do you expect to be done by this white house? >> well, it's what institutes scandal for the trump white house. eve been talking about this morning what we saw play out all over the weekend was a two headed monster. the white house saying, oh, look, we did the right thing, we got rid of this guy so don't pay attention to not telling the truth about it, all of the bungling, all of the chaos and then a president who on his own is saying, this stuff doesn't matter. what about due process? what about how good porter was? in issuing a statement and speaking publicly with obvious disrespect for the victims in this circumstance, abused women, part and parcel of his attitude toward women going back throughout the campaign and a very cynical effort in my judgment to say that this is a different and a new cultural

flash point that he's going to weigh in, don't pay attention what we're doing in my white house, pay attention to how society is being undermined in a way to stir up his supporters. the question is, does it stand? is this different? is there a price to pay? and to me how many times have we asked that question. is there a price to pay for trump with congressional leadership? with his party faithful? with women voters who came out for him in 2016? will it be different in a midterm year which is a tough year? >> all right. we were just getting told we have an information -- who gets there faster. there's some reporting, david, we're getting -- look, this is what happens. they do these kinds of things in the white house and the staffers start chirping and they start pushing back and they're upset. >> that's our reporting that we're having. officials are expressing confusion over the president's conflicting remarks on the domestic abuse allegations. there are also the president's

remarks. what we saw on the sunday talk shows. there's this conflicting time line that's been an issue even before the president's statement on friday on camera and his tweet over the weekend but to your point, david, it also brings up the question of when is enough enough and that is a question we've been asking for well over a year at this point and if this isn't it, then what would be? >> i think the -- to the extent that you still have people within the white house who are talking about this, who feel burned by what happened here, whether they think therm lied to by the chief-of-staff john kelly, the president made a point of saying, you know, on jake tapper on state of the union, the president has full confidence in his chief-of-staff. we know that can change. it depends how much heat there is. the president certainly doesn't like negative attention, if it has to do with anybody else. he'll take the negative attention so we don't know if this internal discord is going

to grow and become worse. there's a question of hope hicks who the president was upset with and let's remember, how do you talk about this to the outside world? how does kellyanne conway make a decision to go out on sunday and talk the way she did. that's in concerts with advisers like hope hicks unless she recuses herself because she's been date porter all along. this is just messy. this kind of mess is something that is as i pointed out early this morning, the president doesn't mind showing to the world, what we have to remember, whether we think things are different now or not, when there's a crisis in the world, in the financial markets on the international stage, when you have processes that aren't working, a staff that doesn't work well within an administration, that can be extremely dangerous. >> that's the concern. they can't deal with what should be lay-ups, what's going to happen when the game gets really difficult, when the consequences are severe. here's the good news for the president and filed under the category, david, of maybe the

lucke luckiest man in the history of politics, his supporters are with him to the point that they are happy to go out there and suggest that domestic violence is overblown and that the president is right to do this and if you're going to criticize him about this, what about all these other things that, you know, you should be criticized for and democrats should be criticized for and anybody else should be criticized for. his base is with him. that's significant. >> well, we'll just see how long that's the case. i agree with you it is significant. i agree that what the president does especially when feeling cornered is he looks to touch a rail in our culture wars. a third rail that would burn other people but he's willing to go and touch it. to use this episode to say what about due process, you know, what about people who are falsely accused? it's going to resonate way lot of people who have been saying

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