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this point. >> and not take money who want to keep lessening gun legislation and making it easier for these horrifying to get guns. if you can't get elected without taking money from child murderers, why are you run something. >> guys, are you going to be able to go back to school this week or next week? are you going back into the building where this happened? >> well, first of all, the freshman building is being torn down. but the rest of the school is staying up. and as soon as we can we are going to go back into the school. as soon as they say school is on monday, i'm going to be there i'm pretty sure. unless i have interviews -- unless we have interviews or somewhere to be, we are going to be at school with the people who need us. we need to stand with our peers. we haven't had time to stand with our peers through all of this we have been working so hard. >> david, people remember when
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we first interviewed you and you were so vocal and so strong. how are you doing emotionally? i know you are galvanized by this but emotionally how are you? >> for me, it has been absolutely exhausting. the first three nights a got two hours. then four. last night i got five. i didn't miss an interview that i had at 1:00 in the morning in england. it is exhausting but nothing compared to what these parents are having to go through right now. that's what people really need to focus on, these 17 individuals. emma and i couldn't exist sadly, we have to stand up and take charge because nobody else will. because our elected officials certainly wand. david, emma, thank you for being available to us. senator marco rubio has declined
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our request to come on. >> of course. >> thank you. cnn is hosting this live townhall wednesday from parkland, florida as well as self lawmakers. it is called stand up the students of stone man douglas demand action. do not miss it. thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn "newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. good morning, everyone. chris is off. dave briggs joins me. we have a busy morning. president trump claims no collusion after robert mueller indicted 13 russians. he claims he never challenged despite fact that we have him numerous times on tape. and president trump taking aim at the fbi, claiming they
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were too distracted by the russia probe to pursue a specific lead of the florida massacre. survivors are slamming the president's response and intensifying their calls for him to do something about gun control. we have it all covered for you with indicate hand collins live in west palm beach. good morning, kaitlan. >> reporter: dave, good morning. it was a weekend full of tweeting in west palm beach. he stayed indoors and off the golf course after aides determined it was too close and too soon after the tragic school shooting for the president to go golfing. instead, we got to watch in real-time as his anger grew over that intensifying russian probe. president trump lashing out about the russia investigation. the president blamed his own fbi about the school massacre that left 17 dead.
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mr. trump tweeting that the fbi missed signals because they are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion. the charge prompting criticism from a number of republicans. >> i think it's an absurd statement. absurd. >> so many folks in the fbi are doing all they can to keep us safe. the reality of it is they are two separate issues. >> the president should be staying out of law enforcement business. >> ruben gallego calling the president a psychopath tweeting america will regret the day you were ever born. president trump going after his own national security adviser h.r. mcmaster who said this in germany at a security conference about russia's interference in the 2016 election. >> as you can see with the fbi indictment, the evidence is now really incontrovertible. >> reporter: the president scolding mcmaster saying he forgot to say that the results of the 2016 election were not
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made by the russians. the president has not mentioned what, if anything, his administration is doing to prevent them from interfering in future elections. the president asserting that the russia probes are creating discord, disruption and chaos, adding they are laughing their asses off in moscow. mr. trump also falsely claiming that he never said russia did not meddle in the election, despite multiple statements that prove otherwise, including remarks aboard air force one with when he said i really believe putin when he said russia did not meddle. and saying the owe on 'bama administration could have taken a stance call him liddle. >> this is a president who claims vindication any time someone sneezes. i said all along i thought the obama administration should have
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done before. but none of that is an excuse for this president to sit on his hands. >> reporter: he said if mcmaster can stand up to putin, why can't you? and insisting that this vindicates him, insisting it proves no collusion between his campaign and russia despite the fact that mueller's investigation into potential collusion is ongoing. dave and alisyn, the president is heading back to washington to the headline from the l.a. times that the former campaign aide rick gates has agreed to receive against the former campaign chairman paul manafort and is expected to plead guilty to fraud-related charges within days. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. we have michael smerconish and michael zeldin. he worked as special assistant to robert mueller at the department of skwrus is
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advertise. the president has denied that he has denied russian meddling since he is saying he didn't. we have videotape. this is why videotape is so handy. here it is. >> i notice any time anything wrong happens. the russian source -- she doesn't know about hack. >> hacking is hard thing to prove. >> i believe he believes that. and that's very important for somebody to believe. i believe that he feels that he and russia did not meddle in the election. >> michael, the last one was the president saying he believes vladimir putin over his own intelligence agencies. so where are we today? >> the most trouble some aspect is his denials and his failure to accept the findings or at least the allegations of the mueller indictment. it means that at the most senior
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level, the commander in chief is not combatting nor retaliating. congress passed that sanctions bill against the russians. he refuses to embrace it. seemingly, we're not defending ourselves. >> michael zeldin, a dozen tweets from the president. we have two hours later in the program, so we won't read thema. what are the implications and the fact a there appears to be no punishment, push back against russia for interfering in our democracy? >> these are political questions which i try to steer clear of. what he is saying in these tweets as no bearing on his legal standing and are
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irrelevant to what mueller is investigating. mueller is inquiring into whether there was an counterintelligence inquiry. he is inquiring whether there was collusion, obstruction of justice and connections between trump and russians as they attempted to interfere with the election. all of that is ongoing and irrespective of what the president had to say on his twitter feed. >> back here at home there is a suggestion that rick gates, deputy campaign manager, will be pleading guilty. thereby cooperating to offer up what he knows about money laundering, what paul manafort was up to. as we know, he joins michael flynn for lying to the fbi, george papadopoulos.
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back here at home, it is interesting that 13 russians were indicted. but it is happening here too. >> exactly right. the gates plea, if it occurs, will be to count one of the indictment, which is a conspiracy to defraud the united states department of justice and treasury by fail to go register as a foreign agent and failing to declare foreign bank accounts. it's not completely tethered to the russia counterintelligence aspect. but it puts additional pressure on manafort to make a decision about whether he's going to trial or himself cooperate. i think mueller would like to plead and cooperate. we have seen the other day, i think it was friday into this past week. mueller filed more information perhaps engaging in mortgage fraud. so the pressure on manafort is growing. and i think that that's purposeful on mueller's part because manafort may hold a lot
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of keys to the information that mueller wants as to whether or not there was collusion between the trump campaign and foreign nationals. >> clearly that and what's in these 36 pages matters. they are talking about gun control, background checks, lack of action in light of what happened in park land, be florida. you hear from americans each and every day on your program. what are they saying? what are they calling for? >> by calling for the same things they did in the aftermath of sandy hook. the question is whether this is going to last. the fact that the rally is scheduled for march 24, means people will be galvanized at least for an additional month. i think like many not only around the country but around the tpwhroeb, i'm just mesmerized by those students, including the two that you just had on who speak with more poise
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and conviction than most elected officials. so the intangible, the unknown this time, is whether there will be some movement begun by the youngest voices that gives sustenance to the adults they have not had up until now. that is the intangible. that's what i want to see. >> michael smerconish, does it feel differently to you this time? the idea that they were in florida, that this is a gun can culture the way it isn't in connecticut. >> parkland, florida is not gun country. we were both there last week. affluent, highly educated. not true gun country there. >> except they have, i think a different attitude towards guns than in connecticut. even the surrogate family, they were gun owners. they allowed him to keep his gun because it was locked up. that's how you do it if you're a responsible is gun owner. they didn't know he had a key made. i don't know the the fact that the kids are so vocal and speaking out, does it feel
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different stphou. >> it does feel different to me. and something i think is potentially game changing about this tragedy is the failure of what i will describe as data integration. and you have been reporting on so much of this. the bail bondsman who last january made that phone call, a nexus search says there were only 22 individuals with the same name as the shooter. couldn't they run down the 22? cnn reporting that 39 times law enforcement responded to that address. the investigation by the local child services organization. there were so many aspects, alisyn, of this case being trouble some in the ethernet, it begs for in a google, amazon facebook world in which we live the ability to tie it all together and give law enforcement the tools they need to do their job. that is not a second amendment issue. that is working smart, not working hard. >> we can track down russian
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interference in our election but we can't follow up on simple tips. >> exactly. >> if you're a parent and you lost a loved one you must be struggling with that. the president had his take on that. very sad that the fbi missed all of the many signals sent out by florida school shooter. this is not acceptable. that is true. they are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the trump campaign. there is no collusion. get back to the basics. do those two things have anything to do with one another? >> one would hope not. my experience as a decade-long federal prosecutor is that the fbi has enough competence to do both things at the same time. we don't know why that tip can't followed up on yet. but it's not because the resources of the fbi were diverted to russia. if it is in fact, true that the
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russian investigation is drawing out additional resources put a budget in to get more resources to the fbi. it is not connected in that respect. i don't like to talk about politics, but the one law that i would change if i were trying to get gun control is campaign finance law. i would change law so these politicians aren't so tergted to the need for money so they can actually take principled stpapbdz on issues which i think a lot of these guys privately feel but can't break away from the milk of their livelihood, which is raising money. >> it's not just the nra. it is their constituents. it is a passionate issue for people across this country. some people vote exclusively on gun rights. we need to keep that part of the conversation. it is not just the nra. >> i didn't say it was the nra. >> no. i know you did not.
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>> that principles get interfered with when money is the life blood of your life as a politician. >> true statement. michael zeldin, michael smerconish, thank you for the perspective. >> survivors of the high school massacre are turning their grief and tkpwarpbg into calls for action. rosa flores live in parkland, florida with more. good morning, rosa. >> reporter: good morning, dave. there is so much passion and pain over this community that student survivors have taken that energy and are demanding gun control. they are calling for a ban on high capacity magazines that increase carnage. even if that politician is the president of the united states. >> how dare you.
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children are dying and their blood is on your hands because of that. please take action. >> survivors of last week's high school massacre criticizing president trump for his inaction on gun control and voicing their outrage over the president's tweet blaming the fbi for missed signals because of the russia investigation. one student tweeting, 17 of my classmates are gone. but you're right. it always has to be about you. how silly of me to forget. #neveragain. another writing you are the president of the united states and you have the audacity to put this on russia as an excuse. i guess i should expect that from you. the fbi admitted friday it failed to act on a specific tip it received january 5th when a person close to the killer told the bureau he was erratic, owned guns, had a desire to kill people, and was potentially capable of conducting a school shooting. >> on behalf of myself and over 1,000 employees of the miami
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field office, we truly regret any additional pain this has caused. >> the parkland community laying their loved ones to rest. emotions running high. many students turning their grief into calls for action. >> politicians who sit in their guilded house and senate seats funded by the nra telling us nothing could ever be done to prevent this, we call b.s. >> the backlash comes as cnn learns that an investigation for florida's department of children and families raised behavioral concerns about the killer in september of 2016. including that he was on snapchat cutting both of his arms. had a nazi cymbal drawn on his backpack. and wanted to purchase a gun for unknown reasons. according to the report, the killer had been diagnosed with autism, ad/hd and did preparation. and investigators questioned how frequently he was taking his medication. a safety assessment ultimately determined the level of risk was low. these documents also show that
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the killer was cited in over 40 disciplinary incidents in school, including fighting, profane language, assault, disruption, suspension. this new chilling surveillance video captures the confessed killer walking calmly down the street minutes of the attack. the family that took in the killer, telling the sun sentinel we had this monster living under our roof and we didn't know. everything everybody seems to know, we didn't know. the sneeds say he followed every house rule but was depressed. they took him to a therapist just five days before the shooting. they allowed him to keep firearms, including an ar-15 in the locked safe. but they thought they had the only key. as we take a live look here in parkland, you can see there is a memorial that continues to grow. the street here in front of the school was opened yesterday. that's why people have been able
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to come and pay their respects. we have learned from the broward county public schools that they are expecting staff to come back into this building at the end of the week. alisyn is, you can only imagine how emotional that's going to be for those staff and those teachers to come back to the site of this massacre. >> rosa, we just heard from the students who say it is going to be very emotional, obviously, for them as well. but they are determined to march in there as soon as school opens because they won't be stopped by the violence and they now feel they have a purpose for all of this. thank you very much for all the reporting down there. you just heard the two students calling for change. what will congress do? we ask a democratic congressman about the plan, next. with the travelocity customer first guarantee... your only worry... will be how to drink this monstrosity. get help with hotels, free twenty-four-hour flight changes, and our price match guarantee.
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your job is to protect us. and our blood is on your hands. >> those are just some of the students who survived that school massacre in parkland, florida. they are demanding change and taking their message to washington, d.c. march 24th for what they hope will be a giant protest and march of students fed up with school shootings. joining us to discuss that is democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. >> good morning, alisyn. >> students couldn't say it any better. when you hear what senator rubio said right in the hours after this school shooting, he said basically, well, i'll just let him say it. here's what he said right after that on thursday. >> someone has decided i'm going to commit this crime, they'll find a way to get the gun to do it. that doesn't mean you shouldn't have is a law to make it harder. it just means understand to be honest it isn't going to stop
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this from happening. you can still pass the law, per se, but you're still going to have these horrible attacks. >> he thinks a law wouldn't stop is it from happening. what do you say to that? >> it's just one of the many absurdities we hear from people like marco rubio, like the speaker of the house in florida last week who didn't bother to stop by and talk to the people who suffered this tragedy. just because people are going to commit murder or just because they are going to commit larceny any, gosh, we shouldn't pass the laws. of course we should. what makes this particularly tragic is there's things that we could do that have three-quarters to 90% of the american public behind them. things like universal background checks. making sure you can't buy a gun unless you have had a check. making sure nobody has access to a 20-round magazine. i could go on and on. it is muscle memory for people like marco rubio. they know if they change their tune, they will have to deal
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with the nra. that's why young men luke cameron who just spoke on your air, make me feel so good. young people standing up and joining adults who have been banging this drum for a long time. i don't know if it will make a difference. congress a hard place. but getting more people on board will force people out of sheer shame like marco rubio to start addressing this issue. >> obviously this is a very emotional issue. if you put the emotions aside, if you can, the facts don't support what marco rubio was saying. look at connecticut. after connecticut, i don't have to tell you, that's your state, after newtown, everybody thought things would change. congress couldn't figure out how to do it. so your state of connecticut did it on its own. when they passed more strict gun laws, gun deaths went down in connecticut. there is a direct core hraeurel. >> the facts are
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incontrovertible here. there is example after example. in the 1990s when there was a brutal mass killing in australia, they passed laws to make it hard to get your hands on weapons of war like the ar-15. they haven't had this sort of thing in australia since the mid-1990s. marco rubio, speaker ryan, and most republicans in congress, and to be fair, a few democrats, they can't allow the conversation to go to facts. they try to scare americans. they go to fear. people want to take away your guns. nobody wants to take away people's guns. we don't want to be any different than canada, great britain or australia. you can't get weapons of war. you are checked out. they have reasonable memory health systems that allow for the identification of people like the person of sandy hook or this person of florida.
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a lot could bring this to a close. the problem is marco rubio and speaker ryan will not allow that conversation to happen because it will cut off the flow of money from the nra and groups like it that are funding these guys to precisely to stop any meaningful change on gun safety. >> well, look, the president and lots of other people say the democrats do bear some responsibility. he said just like they don't want to solve the daca problem, why didn't the democrats pass gun control election when they had both the house and the senate during the obama administration because they didn't want to, and now they just talk. so democrats had their chance. >> like so many of donald trump's tweets, that is unbalanced, inaccurate and nearly insane. the reason the democrats weren't able to pass gun control when they did in 20092010 when they did control the congress was that mitch mcconnell, republican leader of the senate, led a filibuster.
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you need 60 votes to pass anything. mitch mcconnell, despite there being more than the majority to support a bipartisan bill, mitch mcconnell led a fill pwuflter against a piece of legislation supported by 90%. as usual, you have to put the phone down but nice try. >> there is a bipartisan effort now in congress for background checks. do you have a sense that this will go anywhere? >> well, i've got to tell you, alisyn, i hate to say it in the fact of activism and optimism of the young people in florida but, no, i have zero confidence this will go anywhere. incident was just a couple months ago after las vegas we were talking about regulating or ending bump stocks. where did the piece of legislation that would stop bump stocks go? well, you know, people moved on to other things. congress got deliberately
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interested in other things. so, no, i'm not confident. i will be pleasantly surprised if after this round of deaths we finally get something passed. alisyn, much more likely i fear is sometime in the next ten days we will see another one of these schuylkillings and we will be back on tv scratching our heads about why we can't get anything done here. >> i pray you are not right. what about russia. what do you think of the idea 13 have been indicted by robert mueller? what do you think this does to the investigation? >> well, i think the main thing it does is hopefully, and maybe the president's tweet would suggest he is headed in this direction. hopefully we can get clear communication out of the white house, that it wasn't a hoax, a it wasn't a 400 pound guy sitting on husband bed. one of the things that damaged our ability to respond by this, when the president of the united states is denying it occurred, it is hard to speak with one voice about what to do to prevent it in the future.
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i think bob mueller did us a real service. this was a very, very serious attack on our elections. >> congressman jim himes, thank you very much for being with us this morning. >> that you can, alisyn. >> dave? president trump slamming the fbi for not investigating a very specific tip about the florida schuylkiller because he claims they're distracted by the russia investigation. did the president cross the line? former attorney general alberto gonzalez weighing in next. and . watch however you want. on your phone, tablet, or tv. for a limited time, get 4 lines for just thirty-five bucks per line, with no extra charges. it's showtime! all on america's best unlimited network, t-mobile. what can a president [ do in thirty seconds? he can fire an fbi director who won't pledge his loyalty. he can order the deportation of a million immigrant children.
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the fbi admitting it failed to investigate a very specific tip about the gunman who killed 17 people at a florida high school weeks before the attack. fbi director christopher wray said the bureau is investigating what happened. but president trump slamming the bureau, claiming they were too distracted with the russia investigation. joining me now is former attorney general alberto gonzalez, currently dean of the college of law at belmont university and author of "true faith and allegiance" a story of
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sbg guys in war and peace. with we want to get to the president's reaction to all of this. if i'm a parent who lost a child, a wife who lost a spouse, and will be forever tormented, i want some accountability. how does something like that happen? how does the fbi miss that? how are they held accountable? >> well, they just missed it. they are obviously bottom barred with thousands of tips and leads every day. tips have to be followed which is serious and which is not. the fbi admitted protocol wasn't followed in this particular case. that doesn't mean if they had checked on it that this could have been prevented. of course it might have been prevented. that will be examined by the bureau. and there should be some level of accountability if people didn't do their job, quite frankly. they have a job to do. we expect them to do their job.
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if they didn't do their job, there has to be accountability. >> president trump said director wray should resign. >> obviously those comments were made in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy. emotions were running high. as we cooled down, the governor may have a different view about this. we have to examine what happened and ensure accountability. that will go a long way to addressing or dealing with how people feel about the director and his leadership in the bureau. >> the president of course weighed in on twitter saying in part, he thinks the fbi is spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the trump campaign. this is the type of thing we often read on facebook or twitter, just not from the president of the united states.
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does that make any sepbts? >> it really doesn't based upon my knowledge. obviously the president is privy to a lot more information these days than i am, including the work of the fbi. but special counsel has a team looking at the russian interference. so they're focused on that. the rest of the bureau, the 35,000 other people in the bureau is focused on doing their job. so what's going on with the russian investigation is totally separate from florida. i am unaware of any connection with respect to the two. >> let's go into the 36-page indictment indicting 13 russian nationals, three russian entities. very clearly laying out exactly how they meddled the electoral process. that appears to be the end of one road. at the same time l.a. times reporting rick gates who worked for paul manafort and stay on after manafort left, worked
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through the inauguration. where is it leading? >> well i think, again, it's hard to say without knowing what's going on in the investigation. one argument could be that gates can put pressure on manafort and manafort could then be encouraged to provide additional cooperation with respect to russian interference into possible collusion with russia within the trump campaign. that would be one possible way. the fact that these indictments came down. i would have been shocked if there wasn't these indictments given they have been universal in saying russia did meddle with the investigation. that's not surprising. i agree with your assessment this is not the end. this is simply a continuation of the very careful, methodical investigation by robert mueller
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and his team. >> mueller was director of the fbi when you were attorney general. why is the face of this right now rod rosenstein. bob mueller signed this indictment. it appears to be rod rosenstein out in front for now. why? >> it should have been done with the department. the fbi as a general matter in this case, bob mueller is taking over that role and heading up the investigation. and then as a general matter, the main justice, the prosecutors are the main justice and do the actual announcement as to whether to move forward with an indictment or with some kind of prosecution. so it's not surprising. that is sort of the mueller way. he's different than jim comey, quite frankly. i think mueller is much more private. i don't want to say more professional. he just simply does things in a different way. the fact that he wants to avoid
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the limelight to me is not surprising whatsoever. he is in fact, overseeing the investigation. bob mueller reports up to him. not at all surprised that he would make the announcement. >> former attorney general alberto gonzales, thank you for being on this morning. >> thank you for having me. fergie sings the national anthem at the nba all-star game. >> ooh. >> a fan, i take it? >> interesting. >> why everyone is talking about it today. that's next. i take pictures of sunrises, but with my back pain i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
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we have an update now on the president's desire for a military parade that you will recall. defense officials tell cnn there is growing concern about making this happen. cnn's barbara starr joins us now from the pentagon with more. barbara, what's the problem. >> reporter: well, good morning, alisyn. the military is developing options to go to war. these days the pentagon is devoting some amount of time to options for a parade. the problem is this. what they have discovered is if president trump wants a full-blown military parade, thousands of active duty troops that weapons, tanks, missiles, aircraft, you know, in
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washington marching down pennsylvania avenue, flying overhead, it is going to interrupt training schedule. as one official said to me, we don't have units just sitting around waiting to go on parade. so there is a number of options now. could you do something? some units marching and then perhaps have large video screens on the national mall that people could look at. all of this is all going to be going to the president perhaps the most interesting thing. it is going to be president trump who is going to decide on this option. they are going to have him decide on what he really wants to do. >> fascinating. barbara, video screen could work. >> he wanted to be bigger than bastille day in france. that's not good. >> we'll see about that. thank you, barbara. fergie took center stage at
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>> we have never seen the national anthem so sexy before. >> what's wrong with that? >> draymond green, as well as jimmy kimmel, talked about it. >> his face to me said comedic gold. he was planning his monologue about that. >> it was longer than pink's at the super bowl. that's not good. the last 20 seconds is where she may have lost me. you know who gave the worst national anthem ever? >> rosanne barr. >> she tweeted and said i think mine was forever. roseann barr will be the worst ever. >> i just like watching fergie. i was ignoring the sound of it. i just like looking at her. >> i can't disagree with you
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former white house aide rob porter's resignation over domestic violence has gotten a lot of attention. but there was another aide named david sorenson who also resigned after allegations of domestic violence. ex-wife claimed he burned her with a cigarette and ran over her foot way car. joining us now exclusive is david sorenson's ex-wife jessica corbe corbett. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> four months ago you talked to the fbi as part of a background check for your ex-husband david sorenson and the fbi's first question to you was why did you get a divorce, what did you tell them? >> actually the first question
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they said to me, the first thing was, you are a very hard lady to find. i invited him in to sit next to me and he told me why he was there and he mentioned it was for a presidential background and he said, i guess the first question i ask is, why did you get a divorce? >> what did you say? >> i thought about it for a minute and there was a friend sitting in the room and i kind of looked at her like, am i going to do this? she offered to leave and i said nope, you know everything. i said, well, sir it was an abusive marriage and i'm just glad to be out of it. he paused for a minute. okay, what do you mean? at that point i didn't know what to say. i didn't schedule that interview. he walked in my door unannounced. i just played a recording for him. and i said, that's what i left. i just thought that got the point across. >> a recording -- wait, a recording of your ex-husband, david, saying things. >> it was an audio recording
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that had -- was to be used in our eventual -- it was an uncontested divorce. it was an audio recording of my ex-husband in a fight, an argument, so i played that for him because i didn't really know what to say and did you -- did you tell the fbi agent then -- i mean the things that have come out since that he ran over your foot with a car, that he put our a cigarette on your hand, that he threw you into a wall, that you say he grabbed you by your hair when you were alone on a boat in a remote area of maine, did you tell the fbi that stuff? >> i did. i told them then. he kind of had a little bit of a surprised look on his face. didn't really say much but he was -- he said, okay. and i said, i felt guilty. i really did. i felt like, you know, i'm not out to get him and i remember going back to the fbi agent saying that's why i'm not married to him any more but he's
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incredibly talented, he's an incredibly talented comes professional and great require. some of the work he did with governor lepage with the opioid prescription monitoring program and opioid reform, i think some of that is the most ground breaking legislation that we've seen in the country. >> that's generous but. >> but i felt so much guilt. >> i hear you. >> and that's part of the guilt i felt in coming forward and it's why i've decided to keep talking about it no matter how many friends i lose or how bad it's hurt me professionally because, you know, i think that nothing changes the fact that he is a talented and brilliant person but when asked the question i was honest. >> you have to be honest with the fbi agent and i appreciate you're painting a full picture. nobody is all just one ogre or one prince but i'm just curious, after you told the fbi all that, did you -- were you surprised
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that he continued to work in the white house? >> well, to be honest, i was a little terrified. it took a lot for me to admit that that was happening to myself much less my closest friends. my grandmother had raised concerns to my mother and for me at the time i was just trying to put on a smile and tell everyone i was okay. so telling the fbi i didn't know what would happen. i know a little bit more about politics and these kinds of things than the average person because it's also my profession, however, i was terrified because our divorce had finalized, we were about to close on a real estate deal and i felt if he gets hauled into his boss's office in a couple days and you had all this come up on your fbi background check we need to talk, i was afraid that he would know admittedly that i had said something and i was afraid that would effect the real estate deal. >> of course. >> so i contacted an attorney, but, you know, i also just sort
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of -- i had this way of just like the marriage and everything bad that happened in it. you just put it in a box and you focus all your energy on going forward and so i just gave my interview, told the truth and when he -- when he ended up working at the white house still i justify assumed it was a for malt. >> i didn't know anything. >> this is his statement. we want to read this. he says i've never committed violence of any kind against any woman in my entire life. my accuser can produce no authentic evidence, no witness to support her baseless and malicious claim of violence on my par. i was the victim of repeated physical violence not her. i had hoped to never have to think about or discuss the woman who spent years physically attacking, threatening and lying about me and relentlessly and cruelly bombarding me with unimaginable fits of rage. this incident san opportunity to highlight the grossly underreported of female on male
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domestic violence. were you violent with him? what's your response? >> i was violent with him and like i've told every reporter who's contacted me, i stand by every statement i made to the "the washington post." he called me a very vulgar term that i think that most women in america would probably slap a stranger if she was called that word in a bar. he called me that. i slapped him and he said, look, see, you're violent. kind of smirked at me. i said, no one would call me that name in a bar, no stranger, definitely not my husband. if you call a woman that name, you should expect to be slapped. i told him that. >> and you have said that. >> and that is the extent of the physical violence. that's why i moved on. >> you punched him in the face repeatedly he says. the way his story is is that he was receiving constant punches in the face, multiple punches. did that happen? >> i can answer that and probably your next question in
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