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it is why people want to believe these kinds of lies. making sure they have access to the right information as well. i got into a lot of fights yesterday over e-mail who believe david hogg is an actor. i don't think i was able to change their minds. i'm not sure what the right answer is. >> stop engaging in the fights. >> but i was trying to say here are the facts about this kid. some people don't want to hear it. maybe i'm not the right messenger. maybe fox news will be for certain people. but we all have a role to play to stop some of the pollution because it is making our society sick. >> thhe was fired right after this. what kind of lack of critical thinking if you're working in the white house and you think to send that to a reporter. so he was fired. people are taking action. >> right. >> it's one thing to be critical
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of policy positions. we're seeing something like that. but where it goes all the way down the roads into these sick smears, that is a problem for our society, and i think we all have a role to play to solve it. >> brian stelter, thank you. thank you for the conversation. thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn "newsroom" is next. for u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. good morning. welcome to our "new day". one week after a deranged gunman turned a school into a war zone about 100 survivor office that high school massacre will march to the state capitol in florida and take their gun reform fight to lawmakers. there has already been a suffering on of a setback here. the republican-controlled house, listen to this, they voted to refuse to debate an assault weapons ban and instead they voted to debate a bill that declares pornography a public health risk. >> so president trump tweeting his support for strength epping background checks for gun
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purchases and directing the justice department to draft a ban on on bump stocks. this comes as he will hold a listening session at the white house today with mass shooting victims, though we don't know exactly who. cnn will hold a special townhall meeting tonight with the survivors, the parents, and politicians to find solutions on gun violence and school safety. will our nation's elected officials choose children over guns? that's what the parkland students are asking today. let's begin our coverage with cnn's dianne gal better live in tallahassee with our top story. >> reporter: we are inside the the civic center. the kids are getting breakfast, 100 stone man douglas students, waking up, getting breakfast before a full agenda. i talked to kids who said they might have gotten an hour, two hours of sleep. they are excited, nervous, ready to take on the meetings with florida state lawmakers, republican and democrats. a lot of them say because it is
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the one-week anniversary, there's a little bit of sorrow in the day. but they are taking the memory of those students and their teachers who passed in that massacre and say even though they have already suffered a setback, they feel their message will resonate. >> they just want to throw it away. they want to sweep it under the rug. we are here saying you can't sweep anything under the rug anymore. >> reporter: survivors of the florida high school massacre voicing outrage after the state's republican-controlled legislature voted against a measure to propose a ban on s i semiautomatic weapons. the next step is going to be on them. it's going to be their fault. it's going to be on them and it's going to be their fault. >> reporter: nearly all 71 lawmakers who struck down the bill have an a rating from the
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nra. instead of debating guns, lawmakers choosing to begin on a debate on a bill that declares pornography as a public health risk. dozens of students from douglas high traveling 400 miles by bus. the rallying cry, never again, as they hope to pressure lawmakers into taking action on gun control. >> our message for the politicia politicians, if you aren't with us, you're against us. we're trying to save the lives of innocent children. >> we need to strive for change. we have fall especially victim to lazy legislation for far as long. >> reporter: governor rick scott promising to unveil a legislative plan by friday. >> my goal is to come up with something that will move the needle and make parents feel comfortable that their kids are going to a safe school. >> reporter: president trump tweeting his support for strengthening background checks for gun purchases after a national poll shows an
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overwhelming number of americans want it to happen. earlier in the day, mr. trump directed the justice department to propose regulations that would ban bump stocks. a process that has been ongoing since the las vegas massacre. >> we're working very hard. we're going to come up with solutions. it's been many, many years and there have been no solutions. we're going to come up with solutions. >> reporter: there trump's only action on guns since taking office was to undo restrictions on mental illness. this as the president's son don jr. comes under scrutiny for liking two twitter posts pushing conspiracy theories about the florida shooting survivor david hogg and his father being a former fbi agent. >> it's gusting so many people think it is true. it is honestly sad. we have a right to live just as we have the right to bear arms. >> reporter: president trump will hold a listening session this afternoon with parents, students, and teachers from past
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u.s. shootings. and the white house also indicated that he may be open to lowering the age -- excuse me, raising the age to buy an ar-15 style weapon but stopped short of saying he would be in favor of rein stating that assault weapon ban. the kids hearsay that sounds great but that's talk. they want action. action is what they will be demanding when they leave in half an hour to march to the state lawmakers. >> thank you very much for the reporting from the scene. joining us to talk about it are john avlon and david gregory. david, those kids will martin blocks very soon and they're going to go meet with the governor who has suggested that he does want to come up with a proposal by friday. he has said they will meet with state reps. of course they had the setback yesterday. kids were hoping that the state legislature would vote to even start debate on on banning assault weapons. they did not do that. however, today is a "new day",
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and those kids are taking their message to lawmakers. >> there is a lot of activism. i think it is different than we have seen in the past. i think those who want to see something done that is real at the state or federal level have to recognize this is about achieving what's possible with those who may be less inclined to pass any kind of gun control measures. and it's also about harnessing power. this is about a longer term strategy of on creating enough energy and activism that isn't just about the immediate aftermath of a horrible event like this. it is about taking it to an election cycle and creating voters who become single issue voters on this particular issue. that is a longer term strategy for change that we just haven't seen yet. we have seen billionaires, you know, like mike bloomberg in new york saying he will go toe to toe with the nra in expanded election cycles. we just haven't seen the kind of
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impact. this is a new start with a new group of activists who might have some impact. >> look, i like that point, actually. because, we are spending time doing what we should calling on people to attack the kids. and there is a lot of b.s. going on to take the momentum out of these kids's efforts. it's not just about them. 97% of people polled said they want something to make this different. i have never heard of a number that high on policy level. this is on background checks. it is not on gun control but on background checks. the nra does kill you with money. but they don't lead the league in donations. they lead the league in getting people out to go out to politicians and say, john, you do what you do what you feel to do but i will get you in you don't do what i want in the next election. >> the most important words you just said are in your primary.
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this is a play to the base strategy that benefits from polarization and hyper partisanship and allowed the nra to hijack a party and move away from a clear broad consensus to the american people. this is a decisive issue. we had an assault weapons ban in this country. kids do have the opportunity to elevate the debate in a way that didn't occur after sandy hook. president trump deserves credit for taking a step yesterday apparently on bump stock. >> and background checks. and he may be open to raising the minimum age. >> let's stay tuned to see what the actual follow through this. >> at least he is not talking typical nonsense like it never happened. at least he's on the right side of momentum. >> thank god for small mercies. but i do think we don't want to default. this will be a long fight. but 97%, that number is staggering. this is going to be real
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politics that gets this done, not wishing and hoping. but the door is open. >> i think it's really a waste of time to spend time on the da tpherb de souza's. >> these conspiracy theorists. >> yes. this is nonsense, ugliness. it exists. it exists out there on social media every day. but thinking people are going to on reject that. there has to be mutual respect on both sides, people who are for gun rights who see this not only as a slippery slope but a proxy. these are small seed conservatives, people who support populist politicians who believe in government overreach generally and see guns as the core american issue on which to fight. that's why they have been organized. and that's not a completely misguided principle because there was an effort on the left to ban handguns for a long time. there has to be some respect for that. and go to work on things to make
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sense. seatbelts. we made driving in a car a lot safer on the highways with seatbelts with those kind of regulations. it has to build on that momentum and why a kid with this kind of record with law enforcement should be able to get a done should be a problem for anyone who is a supporter of gun rights or not. >> i don't think he was part of the well regulated mill issue sha that the founding fathers were initiateng. >> you need to find a way to find common ground. there needs to be compromise on both sides. we need reality checks. why should 18-year-olds be able to get a weapon of war when they can't buy a beer. i think it's worth calling out the extremes. i think they can actually consolidate the sensible center. when you see someone who wants considered them a card carrying member like de souza, bitter ugly cynicism, it is not even
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what would jesus do to denigrate the kids on social media. and it helps clarify the debate. so i don't think we should simply dismiss that. >> so the kids had a setback yesterday where they went to the statehouse and they were in the gallery watching as the lawmakers decided not to even take up this debate. >> 36-71. >> that was the vote? >> that was the vote. they would not even debate on an assault weapon ban. obviously, guys, we have been talking about this, they have to be in this for the long haul. this was the first setback. there will be others. but there will also be steps forward. so they will have to steel themselves that obviously -- they started with the assault ban. that's a hard one. that's ambitious. that's hard to start with. >> what they were debating was a slap in the face. >> they were debating porn as a
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public risk instead. >> that demanded the attention with the kids in the audience. >> right. exactly. but where i think the president has been constructive so far, as john said, we have to give him his due with the caveat he was constructive when it came to immigration. what happened? i am still looking for what happened to the immigration debate. i don't mean to be factious about that. this president had uniquely, when he complained about other people not doing things. now he said he wants to do it on guns. how do we strengthen background checks? "the wall street journal" this morning talks about strengthening the federal back ground check that is an existing bill that democrats opposed on principle grounds because there were concealed carry laws that were part of that across state lines that they oppose. bump stocks is a way to remedy it. the debate over banning assault weapons is one that will have to be joined again. that has a troubled history.
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remember the 1994 midterm elections and the shell lacking that the democrats took. it was because of that assault weapons ban. there is a deep history politically of how much they want to take on. >> my father ran and lost in 1994. he would not shut up about it was the right move. people vote on this issue. they will vote against you. the question is will people vote for you, people doing the same thing. >> gentlemen, thank you both very much. >> we are talking about the kids this morning. because to have a group of survivors like this is unique in what we have seen so far. they are old enough to make the case for themselves. that's exactly what is going to happen tonight. you will have some of the students from marjory stoneman douglas. they will be at a cnn townhall. kaylee hartung is live. this should be an important night. >> reporter: it should be, chris. how many times over the past
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week have we thought, something feels different in the wake of this saol shooting. that's been in large part, as you mentioned, because of the outrage and the passion of the students, the survivors of stone man douglas high school have shared with us. many will bring it here to the bb and t center. a chance to begin a conversation with elected officials and hopefully effect change. thousands are expected to attend. we're talking about students from stone man douglas, their parents, teachers, and administrators who will have the opportunity to confront lawmakers. among those lawmakers, congressman ted deutsche, the democratic representative of the district that includes parkland. many students say he has been a tremendous resource to them. and democrat bill nelson as well as republican marco rubio. he comes here with a spotlight on him. teenagers have not been afraid to call him out for the millions of dollars he's accepted from the nra.
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i wouldn't expect them to hold back with him tonight. there will be a national spokesperson for the nra for them to question as well. we should mention that president trump and florida's governor rick scott were also invited to attend but declined the invitation or the opportunity to be here via satellite. alisyn, we expect this to be a moving and a powerful evening. >> kaylee, good for marco rubio, senator rubio, for agreeing to go and confront these students. as you point out on, not everybody did. so it will be fascinating to see what happens tonight. thank you very much for the preview. minutes from now, about 100 students who survived the deadly attack, will begin their march toward the state capitol in florida. one student tells us about their never again message they are bringing to lawmakers, next. and when youod sugar is a replace one meal... choices. ...or snack a day with glucerna... ...made with carbsteady... ...to help minimize blood sugar spikes... ...you can really feel it. now with 30% less carbs and sugars.
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okay. so just minutes from now, about 100 survivors of the florida high school massacre will begin their march to the florida state capitol. they will spend the day meeting with dozens of lawmakers, including governor rick scott as they push for a change to gun
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laws. joining us now is shooting survivor kyle and florida state senator lauren. they are two of the organizers of this trip to tallahassee. thank you for take this time. i know you have a busy day. kyle, what message are you bringing to the governor today? >> i ultimately want to accomplish to make sure we have mental health restrictions in place so people who are not mentally stable cannot acquire women's. i want 100% to make sure we have deeper background checks. as a fellow republican, it is -- i really understand the slippery slope for legislation and that quickly legislation can become worse and worse of a situation and we really have to fine the line in the sand for this issue. >> i think that is really an important point. let's just underscore that. you consider yourself a republican. you understand the slippery slope. >> yes, ma'am. >> you don't want all guns taken away. i understand that's your position.
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>> uh-huh. >> these two things you think, what, could have stopped the tkraepblg at your school? >> 100% if we had these in place he would never been able to acquire a weapon. these are logical things that have is to be in place. there is no orbgt against it at this current point in time. >> tell us more about that. you want a counselor to be able to flag a gun seller? how are you going to connect the mental health problem with gun sales? >> here's what i think. i think we have to come in with specific and very, very set guidelines as to why what entails someone who is not mentally stable. this is a discussion we have to have. >> senator, tell us what your role is with all of these kids today. >> i am the facilitator. these incredibly bright, eloquent children and i connected right after the vigil
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on thursday. and i asked them what is your vision for change and how can we help make that happen and help you heal? so they said they wanted to come to tallahassee. and we set up meetings with legislator legislators, getting buses, food, all the things they needed to come to htallahassee. different students have different point of view. we will be working the process and working to bring tpaurbd some significant change in florida law. >> kyle, were you there in the gallery yesterday as some of the students were watching the state lawmakers vote not to take up a debate about banning assault weapons? >> i was not there, but i heard about it and read about it.
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they simply did not want to have a discussion about the topic. having a discussion will never hurt. that is the first step to change. if there is an issue, we have to move forward and at least talk about it. >> senator, how do you explain fellow lawmakers not even wanting to have a discussion? >> i think that that was a procedural issue. and i think that there are discussions that are being had. and i understand that there is still a lot of feelings on both sides of this issue. and so i am working to try to make sure that we have a product in these next 11 days that i can bring home to these students, to their families. and so i am going to continue on that footing and as we embark on this journey today, we're meeting with senate leaders, republican, democrat, house
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leaders, republican and democrat, the executive branch. and that is i think the message. sometimes you are two steps ahead. and within this process you can take a step backwards. but it is keeping that end game in mind. we will walk over with a positive frame of mind. >> kyle, did you understand what happened yesterday in terms of their priorities? look, access to pornography online can be seen as a public health problem that lawmakers should tackle. did you understand them prioritizing that over gun violence? >> i think it was just a procedure issue. at the end of the day, it happened. we just have to move forward. we're here to make a change. and we really have to hit home
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specifically what we can reasonably accomplish. and i think that 100% definitely you have to be mentally stable to acquire a gun and deeper background checks. that is 100% accomplishable. >> very quickly, do you think the governor is open to hearing that and to taking action on on those things? >> i really think he is. if he's in favor of the american people, he will definitely take into account all sides of the argument, look at it fairly. and then choose to move forward with what he believes. >> kyle kashuk, senator lauren book, thank you both for your time. we will be watching all of your actions today. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> he said they have blood on their hands. connecticut's governor joins us live next. watson. my analysis of sensor and maintenance data
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ring and the president have blood on their hands.
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he is challenging lawmakers in washington to get tough when it comes to gun control. connecticut governor dan malloy joins me now. his state did pass gun control laws in the wake of the sandy hook massacre. is that the reality that this will have to be done state by state unfortunately when states either see it happen to them or near them? >> i think it is. and it does have to be done state by state. the nra has paid for washington. you have senators who have received 5, 6, 7 million dollars of contributions. they are highly unlikely to do the right thing in large part because they have been bought off, let's be honest. if you look at the top ten states with respect to their death rate by guns, there are three to four times the bottom ten. a place like florida has ale death rate that is over -- or about three times as high as connecticut's death rate per
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100,000. >> let's emphasize the point to give people context. the percentage of ownership in a state winds up being inverse correlation to the amount of death in that state. the more guns you have the more death you have. that upsets a lot of people's sense of more guns make you more safe. what have you learned in connecticut after the changes after sandy hook? >> we know if you have a gun in your house, someone is more likely to kill themselves than if you didn't have a gun in your house. we need a higher level of protection, particularly from people who have mental illness in their families and backgrounds, who have been hospitalized. we don't allow those folks to buy guns for a period of time until they are well again. we did away with the sale of on assault weapons, something that you couldn't purchase in the united states until 1984. you can no longer buy in the state of connecticut. we require all gun sales be
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recorded. anyone who wants to buy a gun or ammunition has to have a permit to do these things. >> have the numbers gone down? >> they still own weapons. >> you have a robust gun ownership in your state. but the idea of what have you seen in the numbers since sandy hook? i know it is a small sample size in terms of years, but what have you seen? >> put it this way, chris, connecticut has had the largest drop in violent crime on any state based on the last four years. when we passed this law in 2013. we have had, with respect to homicides, a precipitous drop in homicides. good rules, good laws make for good results in most cases. >> what do you say to the lawmakers in washington? you said they have blood on their hands. anybody who knows you knows you believe that deeply. you were saying it at the time after sandy hook shooting happened. what do you say to them today?
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>> what i'm going to say to them, and i have literally since sandy hook, this is coming to your neighborhood. this could affect your child or grandchild. you will see people in your state killed in restaurants, movie theaters, schools and search churches. why can i say that? this is all we have seen since sandy hook. a place like florida has seen two mass murders in a relatively short period of time. there are people out there now perhaps in your community where you live or where your family lives back in your home state. there are people there planning the next mass attack. >> look, as you know, i and so many others were there during the massacre that happened in sandy hook. people felt that would be a tipping point because so many young children, so much vulnerability exposed there. and of course nothing changed on the national level. i want to give chris credit to our state and others that acted after it. do you think this could be different because this group of
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sur is sraoeufrs speak for themselves, are old enough to say what they saw, what they lived through and how terrified they are and how much they want to be safe at school? >> first of all, let me say this. it was the tipping point in about 12 states, new york, new jersey, connecticut, massachusetts just a few of those states that tightened their gun laws. with respect to the young people, they are going to be voters soon. i think they are going to make a change. it will not happen overnight. i think these kinds of situations will play themselves out. but i think young people are starting to realize that gun ownership is not a panacea. we will see 33,000 people die of gun violence this year. many of them will kill themselves or family members. we know that. but that -- all of those chances of that happening in your school, in your movie theater, or in your home are increased by the number of guns that are in your home, the easy way that you can get them.
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97% of americans want universal background checks. they don't understand why you should be able to go to your local high school and buy a gun without a background check at a gun show. sit insane to allow that to happen. if you support that legislation, if you vote to allow that to happen in washington or your state capitol, you have blood on your hands. the the guns that are used in crimes in new york and connecticut, new jersey, and massachusetts in many cases come from those very sales. that's the last time we can trace a gun being owned by someone is in a state where these kinds of transfers happen. they come up i-95. let's just do sane things. let's make ourselves safer. let's not sell guns to people who have protective orders against them. let's not sell is guns to people who have mental illness. let's not sell guns to people on the no-fly list.
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we can't even do that in our country. that's insane. >> governor, thank you for making the case. appreciate it. >> thank you. alisyn? >> president trump taking to twitter and attacking one of the women who says he forcibly kissed her. why is the president doing this now? that's next. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. liberty did what? yeah, they saved us a ton, which gave us a little wiggle room in our budget. i wish our insurance did that.
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president trump is publicing slamming a woman who accuses him of kissing her without consent at trump tower more than a decade ago. rachel crooks issed woman. she is running for state legislature in ohio as a democrat. she re-told her story for a "washington post" profile. and the president then replied with a series of tweets saying the incident did not happen and accusing his many accusers of making up their stories for money. let's discuss cnn political commentator margaret hoover, a former george w. bush without staffer and ana navarro. ladies, great to have you. ana, i will start with you. why is the president taking on this fight again? >> either because he's got no self-control and can't help himself or trying to distract from the&divert from the russia issue and everything going on with that. look, i have no idea why he tweeted about it. the only reason we're talking about it is he tweeted about it. in the last month, six weeks, we
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learned he was having an affair with a "playboy" bunny and porn star simultaneously while his wife is giving birth. and they gave him a mulligan. we already think he is pretty gross. so it doesn't make that much of a difference. we are talking about it because he inserted himself into the debate much like he did with his response to that "fire and fury" book. and he has thereby elevated this into the national fray. when he tweets about it, it becomes an issue. >> i get it. >> this woman deserves to be heard. >> by the way, she is not alone. go ahead, margaret. >> that's also the point, if he hadn't tweeted about it we probably wouldn't be be talking about it. that in itself is a tragedy. 19 women have reasonable allegations that the president of the united states actually assaulted them and we're not talking about it. republican leaders aren't talking about it.
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republican women aren't talking about it. we have gotten to a place where the party that founded itself with women's sufferage descended to a party led by a man who doesn't respect women and has assaulted them by reasonable accusation. that's the historic tragedy here. >> we'll talk about it. let's do it. here are the ones that have been vetted. we will just put up the list. she's not alone. rachel crooks is not alone. in terms of nonconsensual kissing, cathy hell her. temple taggart. natas that tasnatasha stoynoff. anonymous. kristin anderson, touched under her skirt is. jill harth.
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and summer zervos accused him of sexual assault. so as we have learned, ana, when it's one man's word against almost 20, we have learned with the me too movement the women are to be believed. >> look, i think most people in america believe the women here. and the primary reason most people believe the women is because we heard donald trump in his own voice boast about what these women are accusing him of. let us remember those "access hollywood" tapes. yesterday in the tweet he asked who would do that? you would do that. you told us you would do that. you told us you got away with doing that because you were a celebrity. you told us you grabbed women by the genitals. you told us you kissed women, that you couldn't help yourself. you told us that you would do
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that. i think most people believe those women. the problem here is, alisyn, when it comes to donald trump there is a different measuring stick. there is a different standard. as i have said before, i am old enough to remember when the republican party was against adulter or precedence. that is no longer the case. it gets a big shoulder shrug right now from within the party. for everybody else, our standards and our bar for him is so low that we, you know, we barely bat an eyelash. it is such a tragedy and unfortunate for these women. they are not getting their fair shake. they are not getting heard enough. >> how do you explain it? how do the republicans give him a pass? >> the republican party doesn't pretend to be a party of moral courage at the moment. it is totally transactional. and you see that in its vast examples how the religious right has rallied around him knowing full well he paid off a porn
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star when his wife just had their child. >> they said you don't love the sin, you love the sinner. >> no, be no, no. god loves the sinner. you don't have to love "the sinner". you don't have to support behavior in this world that is fundamentally against the principles you espouse. >> i think it is easier when he admits he's sinned. >> no. they think they are still going to get policies passed with this president as any sense of moral courage or on anything frankly they can be proud of to tell their grandchildren or granddaughters about. it's a sad state of affairs and it's not a proud time to be a republican. >> all right. here's what rachel crooks said about the president basically
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calling her a liar when she has told the story of him forcibly kissing her. listen to this. >> i'm not surprised he called me a liar. that's not the first time. it is the first time he's attacked me personally on twitter. but his whole approach to this has been to deny the allegations of myself and, like you said, almost 20 women who have come forward. so it's not surprising. but i would think as our on president he would have more important things to do than to tweet at me and try to discredit my story. >> ana, do you sense there is any political backlash against now in the me too movement. things have changed since the president was elected. do you think women feel differently now? >> i think women feel differently. we have seen women supporting women.
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we have seen the power of numbers. we are seeing victims are believed. frankly, unform, and sadly for these women, they are not going to get their fair shake because the one lone case where that does not apply is donald trump. probably the only backlash he's actually feeling is at home from wife melania who doesn't look very happy. i don't blame her. it must be hard hearing these stories one after another. it's a different world. it is a different set of standards when it comes to donald trump. but i do think one of the silver linings and one of the very good things that has come out against these women speaking out about donald trump, because of these women, because they confronted donald trump and because donald trump ended up getting elected regardless, i think that served as a catalyst for so many other women who were just angry, frustrated and decided they were not going to remain silent anymore. so i think a lot of this me too movement, the harvey weinstein
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thing happened because women decided they were pissed off and decided they weren't going to take it any more when they see a sexual assaulter come into the white house. >> 2018 winter is coming. these women have been mobilized. that's what you will see in real numbers. that's where it's not just one thing that the president has done but a series of them over time. and i think winter is coming for 2018. >> all right. you heard it here. margaret, ana, thank you very much for all of that. another big controversy. special counsel's indictments revealing that some of you, some americans spoke with russian trolls and were part of
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enticing unwitting americans to help undermine the political system. cnn senior investigative correspondent drew griffin went looking for some of those citizens and what they thought
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about this fact. >> bs. >> she may well be one of the unwitting americans, trump supporters who helped the russian internet trolls infiltrate u.s. communities by spreading russian-made messages without knowing it. the teen trump broward facebook page, thinks it's all bs, right about the time when rob mueller released his findings. >> i think it's a coverup. >> reporter: one group the russians operated under was called being patriotic, calling themselves an online community. they were actually russian internet controls according to the fbi trying to direct unwitting americans to holding rallies, posting anti hillary clinton messages, even telling them what to print on their home made signs. according to the indictment, the russians under the online name being patriotic, encouraged
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trump supporters to stage a flash mab and the team responded. lauren goldfarb posted the information on the facebook page she still runs. co-chair of the team trump broward, dolly rump was there, holding a crooked hillary sign. she wouldn't talk to cnn. her husband told us by phone, we are disgusting and not to bother us and we are fake news and part of the coverup. >> what part of this is a coverup? are you saying that's not true or what? >> the russians -- i don't care if they were involved or not. that to me is the least important thing. >> reporter: but they were involved with you. did you guys know that? >> they weren't involved with us. just make sure you report it correctly. >> reporter: you guys were involved with being patriotic, right? >> very patriotic. >> reporter: being patriotic was the group that contacted and helped organize these activities
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that you posted on your own facebook account. >> those were legitimate. >> reporter: those were not russians. >> they were not russians. i don't go with the russians. i have nothing to do with the russians. >> reporter: apparently you did. >> reporter: even though the indictment says the russians organized the rally, ms. goldfarb says she never communicated with any russians and no one at any of her events were anything but americans for trump. the russians pretending to be trump organizers also reached out to harry miller in boynton beach, florida, paying him to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting clinton in prison uniform. he did just that. miller who now lives in pennsylvania tweeted this is the cage the russians paid for. by phone he says he learned about his unwitting involvement from the fbi and now believes it was russians who called him on the phone, paid him between $500 to $1,000 to build his cage. >> embarrassed, they had that
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beautiful website, very supportive of the candidate. there was nothing, nothing at all to lend you to think it was anything other than people trying to support a candidate. >> reporter: the russians weren't just recruiting unwitting trump supporters. as cnn reported last october, a group calling itself black fist turned out to be russians, trying to infiltrate black communities and seed social unrest. other groups were encouraged by russian internet trolls to hold protests for police, for and against immigrants, sometimes encouraging both at the same location to increase the possibility of violence. the indictment also reveals this post election protest outside new york's trump tower was organized by russians on facebook. it grew so large even cnn covered it. michael white, one of the original occupy wall street organizers says he believes he was contacted by russian trolls
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in may of 2016. he worries about the long-term effects. >> if it is true that a russian created activist group is indistinguishable from an american created activist group, that will have negative impacts on our ability to create social movements to benefit us. >> people will always be wondering, is this a real event. >> i think that may have been part of the goal. >> reporter: to florine goldfarb, there is no russian thing. it is -- as she reportedly told us. >> bs. please report that. that's [ bleep ]. i know all the people that were with me. they were at my meetings. they're all trump supporters. >> reporter: but did you realize you were in communication electronically with russians? >> not me. >> reporter: you were posting -- >> hillary clinton was and so
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was all her bandits, mueller. >> reporter: you were in charge of the facebook account. you were posting and reposting almost word for word the information that was coming out of this internet research agency in st. petersburg. >> no. good-bye. >> reporter: you don't believe that? >> no. it's [ bleep ]. >> reporter: she refuses to believe what appears to be fact, that these russian trolls were so adept at infiltrating the online political discussion in the u.s., that even at times even convinced americans where and when to stage protests, demonstrations and even to build a hillary clinton cage on the back of a pickup truck. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >> drew can tell you the facts. whether or not you believe them is up to you. we're following a lot of news. let's get after it. >> there are kids that are dead and they don't care. >> the goal is to come up with something -- >> we're going to come up with
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solutions. >> lazy legislation for far too long. >> we would like our fbi to not be focused on something that is clearly a hoax. >> our high schoolers are looking like leaders and our leaders are looking like high schoolers. >> to stand over the bodies of children and poke your finger the eye of your adversary is as low as you can possibly go. >> a new report details the internal white house struggle over jared kushner's access to classified material. >> will affect the valuable work that jared is doing. >> isn't the problem nepotism? that's really what this is all about. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we want to welcome our viewers around the united states and the world. this is "new day." about 100 students who survived the high school massacre will soon march to the state capitol in florida. they are taking their fight from gun reform drektly to lawmakers and the governor. th

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