>> help us so children don't fear going to school. ♪ we will shine >> it is darn impressive kids. the parents should all be proud. i am jim sciutto, ac 360 starts now. not one, or two, but three law enforcement professional officers standing outside stoneman. he stood by and did not go into the school and lost his job for it. the president of the united states has called him a coward. now the breaking news he allegedly had company outside the school where a gunman took

17 lives. the latest from our randi kaye. >> reporter: while the gunman was inside killing people at random. a trained broward county deputy did nothing. the sheriff revealing the news. stayed in his position outside building 12. the sheriff shows video doing nothing for more than four minutes while the bullets stood inside. the shooting lasted six minutes. deputy peterson has since resigned. when reporters asked what should have been done? >> went in and addressed the killer. kill the killer. >> reporter: new information that he is not the only deputy sheriff failing to act.

three other deputies also remaining outside. pistols drawn but hiding outside behind their vehicles. not one of them into the school. it was the coral spring officers went in the school. the surveillance video security teams were watching in hopes in locating the gunman had been re-wound. the 20-minute video delay led authorities to believe the gunman was still in the building when in reality he was long gone. >> the delay never put us in a situation where in kids' lives were in danger. >> reporter: warning signs that went nowhere. cnn has reviewed a transcript from a january 5th call this year. a tipster warning the fbi that

the teen was going to explode. speaking of his social media post about guns and violence in school saying she feared him get into a school and shooting the place up. the fbi has admitted that proper protocols weren't followed on a key tip just weeks before the attack. >> there were mistakes made. we know that. but it is our job to ensure everything in our power that that doesn't happen again. >> reporter: broward county sheriff's office had received 18 calls. police records show the responding deputy passed the information on to a school resource officer. in another call last november, police records showed a caller warned the teen was collecting guns suggestsing he could be a

school shooter in the making. officers referred to the palm beach sheriff's department for review. alerting police that the suspect put a gun up to someone's head. the suspect himself calling. police responded and were told at the scene it had all been worked out. >> randi, these details are so disturbing and it is not the end of it. what have you learned about social services looking into this suspect years ago? >> reporter: we have learned that the department of children and families here in florida took a closer look at the suspect in 2016. what they found was he was cutting his arms by himself and putting nazi signals on his backpack and plans to purchase a

gun. they considered he was a very low risk despite all of those findings and that was because he was living with his mother, going to school, getting treatment for his mental health treatment. they considered him a low risk. meanwhiles just months after the report was closed was when the suspect went out and bought the ar-15 rifle. >> randi, thank you so much. joining us now, law enforcement carl ramby. new information that broward county sheriff, three, in addition to the resource office were outside the school and hadn't gone in. doesn't make any sense to you? >> no. no sense at all. the first officer on the scene, the school we source officer, he

definitely should have gone in and if what is being said is true about the other three, there is no way he shouldn't have gone in. you don't know if the person is still in there, you have to clear the building. you have to go in. >> we don't know for sure whether these three arrived before or after the shooter had left. but even so, to still be outside when there could be wounded people who need treating. when the building does need to be cleared. it is still a problem, correct? >> yeah, it is. and plus, you don't know if he has left the scene. we know now because we have a lot more information. but at the time you don't know that. you have to clear the building. period. you have to tend to the wounded. you can't do it hiding behind your car. >> after columbine, the protocol

changed. now police are trained differently. >> while we are waiting for s.w.a.t., it takes time for them to get there. and in the meantime these things are over quickly. and we have to train our officers and i believe most of our departments have, where they are trained how to go in and clear the building. save as many people as you can. i know the departments that i have worked in, that is ongoing training on a regular basis that takes place. >> every department we talk to says this is now the protocol. the protocol is now to go in. that is what you are trained to do. that is why it is troubling that it didn't happen here. whether on a local federal or federal level, so many mistakes here. the guy who everyone warned was going to be a school shooter ended up shooting a school.

>> clearly the fbi dropped the ball with a tip line and the information they received. absolutely no reason why the information wasn't sent out to the field office for follow up. that has to be explored to find out why it didn't happen and should never happen again. that didn't happen. and clearly, there are other people that again, the warning signs were there and they failed to act. a tragedy all the way around. >> commissioner ramsey, thank you for being here. >> teacher diane rogers was there. for the first time, she and her fellow teachers returned. yesterday she confronted the nra spokeswoman dana loesch.

>> i am a history teacher. i ask my students to define terms for me. what is your definition of a well-regulated militia as stated in the second amendment and using supporting detail, explain to me how -- [ cheers and applause ] -- let me finish. and using supporting detail explain to me how an 18-year-old with a military rifle is well-regulated. and the world, our country, our nation is going to grade your answer. >> ms. rogers joins us now.

one part of the discussion is certainly about guns that you were having wednesday night. the other part of the discussion is about the law enforcement response. when you hear about these officers that stayed outside and did not enter the school, what goes through your mind? >> well, i will tell you john, i tell my students whenever they write an essay, to make sure they have done all the research. i have been at work all day trying to get the class ready for our kids and i want to address mr. trump and his solution to that. first i want to say going around calling people who are mentally illin our communities psychos and lunatics are not going to solve the problem. i want to give mr. trump and dana detention.

because 25% of the americans at some time are going to have mental health issue, i am going to make it two weeks and i want them to come to school and write letters of apology. >> you brought up how the president is addressing mental health. and i want to come back to the law enforcement response. the president suggesting arming teachers giving 20% of gun adept teachers guns, do you think that is a good idea? >> i will tell you, it horrifies me. if we have trained professionals who weren't able to follow protocols, i can't imagine my teachers over worked, under paid and exhausted. what we know is that students of color get suspended and expelled at a higher rate than white kids

so now what are we going to say, now students of color are going to be shot at by teachers at a higher rate? it is ludicrous. >> governor rick scott of florida put forward other proposals. raising the minimum age to 29. banning buffer banning bump stocks. is this a good start. >> yes, it is. and i want my students who are working so hard and want them to know, this is a start. but it is only a start. this is a revolution. my students are generals and they are going to carry this through. it is a start. >> just to circle back in the law enforcement response, in the number of missed signals, right up until the end, do you feel

like the system has served you well in this case? >> i think that the system, there is a lot of ways that we need to improve it. and we need to work together. we need to come together. we don't need to be finger pointing. we need to take our money, resources and need to come to a solution and it really begins, beginning with that money and putting those resources into mental health. >> you went inside the school for the first time today. >> yes. >> what was that like? i can't imagine what it was like. tell me about it. >> i was really afraid. i told my students, i blasted out an e-mail. i was afraid that i wasn't going to be ready for it. but the county, the school board provided so many resources for us, i felt like i was wrapped in a blanket of comfort. and i want my students to come back and share that with them.

we are going to move forward and heal together. >> you say this is one of the last times that you are going to speak to the media. because you want to put 100% of focus on your students. what is your plan going forward? >> absolutely, i am going to be there, and i have sent an e-mail to all my kids, please come by. i need to see you. you need to see me. our hearts are broken, but we are going to move forward. and stoneman douglas is strong. and we are going to get through this together. we are reclaiming our school. >> we do appreciate you speaking to us over the last nine days up until to want. we wish you the best of luck going forward. >> thank you, john. >> ahead, a conversation with a republican congressman from florida who was wounded in combat and now supports a ban on assault weapons. breaking news in the russian

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he said i continued to maintain our innocence. that shows how linked he is with rick gates. he still speaks of him as a team. gates has now admitted that he engaged in many interlocking conspiracy with manafort. tax laws, campaign financing laws, foreign reporting laws. now heavily documented. and it makes manafort situation desperate. >> you have the deputy chair flipping, what could it mean for the chair. paul manafort seems like he is fighting. >> his lawyers indicate that he is. maybe he is fighting until he is not fighting anymore. they have a suit that they filed in federal court against the special counsel saying that an

investigating all of his finances that pre date the campaign, that the special counsel is going beyond his jurisdiction. they may be banking on that. and hoping that the whole thing gets thrown out. but i agree with jeffrey, i think the tax case is black and white and i don't know where they go next other than to donald trump. >> we will talk about that in a second. i think that is an interesting possibility. john dean, before we get there, should president trump be worried about paul manafort? >> that is hard to know. he was there at a key time and he worked for free which is interesting. and he also as the indictment shows once you join the campaign, started earning a lot more money or gathering a lot more money. so that suggests that there might be something going on below the surface that we don't know that he is well aware of.

we also know certainly the special prosecutor wants him badly. they are leaning on him with the full power of that office. >> gloria brought up this issue, paul manafort legally seems to be in deep trouble and now rick gates you have testifying against you, presumably, should manafort be throwing all his chips on the president giving a pardon. >> i think at this point, it would be so politically incendiary, it looks so much that trump was doing it to protect himself. even donald trump who doesn't fear the consequences of a lot of what he does, wouldn't take the risk of the backlash that he would get if he pardoned

manafort. >> you think it is inevitable at this point that manafort will cop a plea. >> i don't see any way he can take this case to trial. the enormous expense and the stakes for him. if he testifies and lies to the judge and is convicted, he could be spending the rest of his life on prison. and if he testifies, he won't. >> these crimes that we are talking about gran well before the campaign although, the scheming and the money laundering and other things that were going on here, during the campaign, and of course paul manafort was a central figure in the campaign and he was at the trump tower meeting. >> there is something that the special counsel wants from paul manafort. we may not know what it is, but

he is squeezing him probably for a good reason. we know he is interested in the trump tower meeting but we also know that paul manafort has relationship with the pro putin ukrainian president that goes back some time and earned him an awful lot of money. he may be interested that or may be interested in the platform at the republican convention dealing with ukraine. we really don't know now. but if you look at people in this campaign who were openly involved with russia before they came into the campaign, i think you would have to point to paul manafort. so there has got to be something there and i'm on with two attorneys here who can tell us this. there has got to be something there that mueller is looking for that he believes he needs to get from manafort. and maybe that is a question of intent. i don't know the answer.

>> gates seems to have been there every step of the way not just before but during as well. maybe he knows. and maybe that is what the special counsel offered. john dean, do you believe manafort will have a breaking point here? is it inevitable? >> i agree with jeffrey, i think he will. at some point he is risking the rest of his life in prison and he is not that young a man. i think at some point he has got to. and i don't think the pardon is a solution. there are state offenses here as well. could be charged by virginia and new york for tax violations that could not solve his problem. no quick answer. >> one can only imagine what happens next week. john dean, thank you. gloria. jeff, stick around.

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yet, more breaking news this friday night. new reporting that the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein telephoned the white house --

joining me is josh who broke this story for the "washington post." what can you tell me about this phone call. >> the call happened on february 9. and in the call deputy attorney general rod rosenstein alerted chief mcgahn that it would take time to resolve the matters. rod rosenstein is the deputy attorney general who oversees the mueller probe and tends to only corresponds the white house on pretty serious issues. >> did rod rosenstein say exactly what was being investigated relating kushner and did he make clear that it

was somehow connected with the mueller investigation? >> department officials are saying to us that he did not delineate the concerns. and only gave a top level view that there were problems that still needed, you know, to be investigated. they don't say problems, they say issues, things that come together in the normal process of a security clearance. the point is that 13 months into the administration mr. kush nne continues to not have -- continues to be under investigation. and because of that, it is really perplexing to watch the folks in the law enforcement community and the mueller probe afly, why 13 months in does he not have clearance. >> after the phone call between rod rosenstein and the white house that the chief of staff,

john kelly made the announcement of staffers who haven't been finalized. >> right. finalizing a memo explaining that folks who still did not have security clearance would no longer be able to keep their clearance. that policy is supposed to go into effect today. the white house is mum. as you saw, the president said the decision is up to john kelly. and john kelly is the person who authored the memo. in t >> any comments from the white house or i suppose from jared kushner's attorney about this news story?

>> abbe is declining to comment. kelly in recent weeks expressed to folks that he would be content, that he has this interesting dual role of family member and staffer. so there is tensions there between jared kushner and john kelly. in the course of our reporting no one at doj or white house disputed this call happened. >> thanks for your reporting. thanks for your time. just ahead we will have more on this controversy with our panel. and a republican congressman from florida says he supports a ban on assault weapons. i will talk to him about that next. [man] woah. ugh, i don't have my wallet, so -

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post." the warning the white house got weeks ago about ongoing issues of jared kushner. back with us is gloria borger and jeffrey toobin. >> it is no small thing but it is all comes under the ambit of why nepotism is a bad idea. why is he still working in the white house. if he were a normal employee, he would be behiout on his behind long time ago. you can't fire the president's son-in-law. so you have this ridiculous situation of the president's

son-in-law. and he doesn't have a security clearance because they don't trust him. it is just an absurd situation. >> he reads the daily brief every day. he has requested more classified information and background information than nearly anyone in the white house. gloria, you know, and then he is in the midst of this shakespearean drama. >> well, they are not close. john kelly is somebody that jared and ivanka wanted to get the position of chief of staff. but in my reporting, it seems they have become more and more distant. the president has dumped this entire thing in kelly's lap.

giving him a hint today, i am sure john kelly will do the right thing, jared is so valuable. he doesn't want to publicly flog the guy, so he is putting him in kelly's lap. and of course the president in the end, it is his decision. and if the president says, in the end, i want him to have this kind of clearance, kelly will have to salute. >> and i am sure he will do the right thing. just to be crystal clear, 13 months for a security clearance is not normal. they can take a while, but don't take this long. if they do take this long, it tells you something. >> it is a long time. 13 mons is a long time particularly for someone who is in a senior position. for white house officials, normally by now, the full level clearance would come through and

you wouldn't be dealing with this issue. the phone call from rod rosenstein to the white house counsel, though, i will point out one good thing about it. it shows there say proper channel of communication taking place between the justice department and the white house which is something that we were not seeing early in the administration. i will give you two reasons why his clearance could still be hung up at this point. one reason could be that the ongoing investigation is somehow related to the broader russia investigation being conducted by the special counsel office. or other issues unrelated to the special counsel investigation. probably something related to foreign levels or other debt related issues. being a major issue in security clearance adjudication. there could be a couple

different explanations for why his clearance is taking so long. it raises the question which is, is there any other senior official in the executive branch or in the white house whose clearance has not come through at this time who has the same level of access to highly classified information as jared kushner. and if the answer to that is no, then the only reason that he continues to have this access is because of his relationship with the president and as a member of the family and that is nowt the way the american government should work. >> jeffrey, carrie brought up the big issue here is the mueller investigation connected to this. josh who i talked to just a moment ago said that isn't

exactly clear. >> of course it would be a big deal. security clearances, you either have one or you don't. and it is worth remembering the whole accusation of hillary clinton was that she was not treating classified information appropriately. what about this? here we have someone with access to the most classified seriously important classified information and he doesn't have a security clearance. how about that for inappropriate treatment of classified information. >> and jeffrey, if you had to amend your form, i remember doing the first story on this last april i believe on jared kushner's fs-86 form. they said it was purely a

mistake without any disclosure of foreign meetings on it and then you had to amend it multiple times. we know jared kushner had to testify on flynn, and cnn has reported this week that part of the problem that he has got is the mueller investigation. not all of the problem, but you know, why would he get clearance. and if he can't get clearance, then can he do his job? >> we will have to keep asking the white house. >> good question. >> we will keep asking the white house that question. whether or not we get a straight answer is a different story. busy night, it is not over yet. next, he said he would take action it stop the school shooting and promise to win over the national rifle association. the president is no longer talking about it. keeping him honest in what seems

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anderson asked the question last night, would president trump be able to do that some suggested only he could. could he craft a set of reforms. or push to pass legislation in spite of the nra or would he instead bend to the gun lobby. and wednesday's listening session of the white house, the president suggested that he alone could fix it. >> unlike for many years where people sitting in my position did not take action, they didn't take proper action, no action at all. we are going to take action. >> action including raising the minimum age for rifle sales which is not insignificant.

>> but in addition to everything else, in addition to what we are going to do about background checks, we are going to go strong into age, age of purchase. >> a day later, yesterday, raising the minimum age was still part of the >> i mean we're talking about rules and regulations for purchasing, changing the age from 18 to 21. we're talking about common sense, and the nra will back it. i really feel confident the nra will back it and so will congress and the senate. >> and keep in mind the nra had issued a statement the night before saying they were against raising the age. maybe that tells us at that time at least the president was willing to fight the nra on this specific point.

another possibility maybe he just didn't know where the nra stood when he said those things. either way yesterday was the last night he mentioned raising the age. instead speaking today at the political action conference he was all about schools, mental health and this. >> well trained. gun adept teachers and coaches, people in the army, the navy, the coast guard, people that are adept with weaponry and with guns. they teach. i mean i don't want to have a hundred guards standing with rifles all over the school. you do a concealed carry permit. >> he said much the same this afternoon standing next to australia's prime minister. nothing about age restrictions, nothing on twitter either.

the question is -- and in fairness is could be too soon to tell, or maybe he's just bending to reality, that lawmakers many but not all of them republicans are already taking the same position at the nra. john cornyn signaled his opposition to raising the age to 21. focus on other things he says. florida's governor rick scott seems to be going in the opposite direction. he says he wants the minimum age raised, a sign perhaps of changing times. and a florida republican congressman now says he supports the ban of future purchases of ar-15 assault weapons. hez head lean reads i'm republican, i appreciate weapons, and i support a ban. congressman, thanks so much for being with us. why this change of heart. why now?

>> look, when i was on the battlefield and i saw an opportunity to save a life, i didn't have a conversation about it. i acted. it's common sense, and that's what needs to happen here. >> so you're saying banning ar-15 weapons is a chance to save a life? >> i believe that. that's why i came out and said this. you know, i looked at the platform i carried. an m-4, very similar to an ar-15. i was carrying that weapon in the most dangerous country on earth for one reason. it was the best weapon they gave me to go out there to make sure i could leliminate our enemies. >> your colleagues asked the question, though, why take this

out of responsible gun owner's hands? way take this from the well-trained adept gun users who obey the law and want to use an ar-15 for target practice? >> i love the well-trained responsible gun owner. i am one. i usually carry a .9 millimeter. i don't want to die because of a lack of shooting back one day. that's why i carry one. but i can go out there and look at this honestly as a person who's done threat assessment. and i can say if someone's coming at me with an ar-15, my max range with my .9 millimeter may be 20, 25 meters, maybe 30 meters on a good day, i'm not going to have the opportunity to

protect myself. >> you know the supreme court has said, yes, americans have the right to bear arms but not the right to bear any and all arms. >> i think that's an important point. we don't have unlimited access to the automatic weapons i carried on the battlefield. i can't go out there and get a saw automatic weapon or hand grenades or a rocket. we respect that the second amendment is a god given right. that right to defend ourselves is unimpeachable, but it doesn't mean every single arm. >> heat me and very quickly on governor rick scott and on the national level of raising the minimum age you can purchase all firearms to 21. did you support that? >> i will absolutely support raising that age. i think there's a lot of things we can do, whether it's looking

at add-ons, whether we're looking at all the things relating to mental illness. and here in florida we have the baker act, where you can get baker acted for saying that voices are telling you to kill people. and right after you get out of your 72-hour confinement we're going to hand you your weapons back. that's a very serious issue. we've got to look at all the things that existed with the fbi. and my school they know i'm congressman brian mass, but when i walk up to their window they still make me show a piece of identification before they let me walk in the door. i'm going to be supporting these measures if that means that we can save a life. i'm never going to regret saving a life. >> congressman mast, thank you for joining us tonight.

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