♪ the latest chapter in memo wars. >> who do you believe? which memo are you on the side of it. >> the democrats are not only trying to cover this up, but they are also colluding with parts of the government to help cover this up. >> if you call it the republican memo or the nunez memo, it's nothing but confirmation. >> it's so full of misinformation and doesn't mention russia. >> i say it all the time. anybody that asks. is there no collusion. >> devastated. sick to my stomach. >> you see what happened with the police officers that didn't have the guts to go and that coach who so brave that ran into gunfire to protect the kids, if he had his gun, he would be alive today. >> there is no reason for giving me a bonus for giving me a gun. put that money in teacher's paychecks and in our pockets.

♪ >> announcer: this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. good morning. the democratic rebuttal to the nunez memo is back and push back to the fbi surveillance abuses. >> the message from the white house seems to be there is nothing to see here. president trump calls the memo a nothing and says its writer congressman adam schiff is, quote, a bad guy. the president called into fox news after this memo was released. listen to this. he calls up reporters and they will have a committee member and he'll leak all sorts of information. he's a bad guy. but it's certainly the memo was a nothing. it confirmed basically, if you look at it, it confirmed -- i

watched miss herge who is fantastic our show just before, and i will tell you, that was really just a confirmation of, if you call it the republican memo or the nunez memo, it's referred to as a lot of things, but that was nothing -- >> the republican memo accused the fbi of politically bias in the russia investigation. the democratic memo takes on the claim and several others point-by-point. >> reporter: the ten-page memo disputes a central claim from republicans that the controversial dossier written by exbritish intelligence agent christopher steele was at the heart of the surveillance warrant used on former trump campaign foreign policy adviser carter page. >> this investigation did not start because of the steele dossier. it started because of george papadopoulos. it started much earlier than any surveillance on carter page and that surveillance of carter page was warranted because of the

voluminous amount of information that was out there that was concerning about his contact with the russians. >> reporter: the memo written by adam schiff argues the dossier played a narrow role and multiple sources about page's activities with russians. >> carter page, i don't know of anyone who takes him seriously as a russian agent. including the russians or the fbi. he worked with the fbi against the russians in 2013 and never played a real role in the trump campaign. >> reporter: democrats pushed back against charges that the fbi misled the court about steele's motivations and financial backing from the dnc, writing that the court was informed the dossier's funders were politically motivated and wanted to discredit trump's campaign. >> we wanted out. we wanted out because we think it is clear evidence that the democrats are not only trying to cover this up, but they are also colluding with parts of the government to help cover this up. but what you're not going to see

is anything that actually rejects what was in our memo. >> reporter: the schiff memo also suggests that in addition to the investigation into carter page, the fbi opened several subinquiries into multiple trump associates by september of 2016. >> what have we learned? with us now is cnn legal analyst page and samantha. kara, i want to start with you. explore one of the major contentions here. this is from the gop memo. according to the democrats rebuttal, this verbatim phrase was in the application.

the significance of the difference here, kara, to you. >> well, so that republicans are saying it should have been explicit and known that this was coming from the democrats, but it's not -- the normal practice in these torts of situations is not to, quote, unmask who the source is. so by revealing the potential bias, the fbi's theory is that it will cure and as long as the judge knows that someone is motivated because at the time that christopher steele was hired, he was also initially hired by a gop rival to president trump. now, at the time that he eventually went to the fbi, he was hired by the democrats and the dnc and hillary clinton's campaign but the normal course for these sort of applications is to make the bias known without revealing the individual source. >> let's put that into the context of year of outrage from many republicans on capitol hill about unmasking and we hear from the president and the republicans that they are disappointed or angry that

hillary clinton specifically or the dnc were not named here. paige, another passage here. according to the democrat's rebuttal. in that role the casting of this by republicans that this was a partisan effort on behalf of president obama. >> right. i guess the argument now is those judges were somehow parted this grand conspiracy to start this fisa application and approve this warrant for political purposes. obviously, that is not true. what we know now is that when director -- the fbi director appointed by president trump said the first nunez mehmo was incontract we know that to be true. strikes me odd that nunez is

saying there is some sort of collusion among part of the government to have furthered this fisa application when the fbi director who was appointed by this president says your memo was misleading and we know more about the process and i think in this case the process worked exactly as it was supposed to. >> samantha, the president talked about this last night on his interview with fox news, and he called adam schiff, ranking democrat on house intelligence a bad guy. and also referred to democrats as the other side here. >> yeah. i listened to that interview, victor. for a second, i thought maybe, finally, president trump was talking about russia when i hear the phrase the other side or a bad guy, vladimir putin and the russians come to my mind as national security analyst and particularly after this memo came out, we learned, again, that russia was trying to infiltrate the trump campaign. that should make every american angry and worried, particularly the u.s. president and would have been a prime opportunity

for president trump and the white house in their statement to say, okay, enough is enough, you tried to infiltrate the campaign. we know that is an old russian spy trick but not put up with it. yet again, president trump went and made negative comments about democrats and schiff which franklin i think is part of a white house crisis communications plan to distract and deflect attention. >> kara, back to you. the nunez memo, one other element. the nunez memo referenced the yahoo! news store by mike isikoff and said it was to corroborate the steele dossier which it should not because steele was isikoff's source. we know that now. according to the demonstrate's rebuttal, it says the following. important distinction? >> yeah. i think so. i mean, the dossier was a small

part of the memo to the democrats which also lays out a lot of other detail about how carter page was on the fbi's radar. they had, in fact, interviewed carter page in march of 2016, several months before they made this application in october of 2016. so the notion that this article was another key piece of intelligence that the court was relying on doesn't stand up. >> page, do you believe that -- i mean, the rebuttal of the democrats say that the dossier was impleed with narrow use here. do you believe that this warranty would have been approved without the doesy say based on what we know? >> no way to answer that question and i think the argument between the memos and back and forth and how important was it would they have gotten the warrant without putting in the steele information? we don't know. the judges look at the totality of the evidence put before them and make a sdermgs is there probable cause to support the

issue to this parent? at the end of the day we know some of that information was provided. we know the bias of mr. steele was before the judges. they were aware of the credibility issues and made a determination based on all of that evidence not just to issue the first warrant but continue the surveillance based on incoming information. so what part it played ultimately only the judges know that. >> samantha, you touched on it a bit at the end of your last answer. the timing here for the white house. >> feels like a coincidence. the white house is under real significant pressure like clearance of jared kushner's access to the daily presidential briefing and doing to keep our country safe from russia's attack and this memo is released and i think is part of a strategy to deflect the questions the white house doesn't want to answer. >> thank you all. >> thank you. be sure not to miss today's "state of the union" with jake tapper. he will have representative adam

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discussion, it will be -- it will be very basic and elemental in its form. it probably will be talks about future talks and that kind of thing. maybe talking about a framework for discussions or sort of helping build an agenda for talks going forward. i doubt, very seriously, that any first meeting between the two sides will result in any major breakthroughs or negotiations and not the way this works. i think they will look for opportunities to build confidence building measure and put in plays things we can do to move the track going forward. >> all righty. will and john, we appreciate both of you so much. thank you. >> thank you. still to come, the mexican president will not be coming to washington next month. this is after a confrontational phone call with president trump over who is going to pay for his border wall. the president is suggesting making a change to the age that you can legally purchase a gun. why his comments to fox news.

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what do we know what happened on this phone call? >> reporter: we know it was another war of words between president donald trump and mexico's president enrique pena nie nieto. he will not visit the president for a previously scheduled march trip because president trump on the phone call continued to insist that mexico pay for his border wall. we know this is something that president donald trump has been talking about since his days on the campaign trail. and mexico has been very consistent. they won't be writing a check for that campaign wall. now, president donald trump -- excuse me border wall. president donald trump has been looking for money for that wall in a number of places, including capitol hill. and a bipartisan group of senators presented him with plan that would have provided $25 billion in border security in exchange for $1.2 million -- 1.2 million dreams to have citizenship. president trump rejected that deal and believes that mexico will pay for that wall. nieto is up for reflex in july

this year and can't be seen for compromising at all on this issue and doesn't want to look weak against president donald trump and therefore will not be visiting the united states. >> lauren fox, thank you. >> i think lauren just put her finger on. . let's talk about it now with washington bureau chief for the chicago sun times lynn sweet. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> listen. there are members of the president's own party who will admit that mexico is not going to pay for the wall and they have been coming out over the last year or so. how much of this is really about the president of mexico saying that i'm not coming if you won't publicly admit it, but how much is it about domestic mexican politics? >> it's mexico blopolitics on b sides. saying mexico is weak on

immigration on its end of the border with people coming in from el salvador. it's a mess when you have international policy dictated by domestic politics you get the impasse we are in now. >> here is the thing. this call happened tuesday, february 20th. and there are reports that jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, he is in charge of, of course managing relations between mexico and the u.s. that he actually made a phone call after this phone call between the two presidents. didn't, obviously, make much headway on that, if mexico's president is still cancelled the trip. what does that tell you about jared kushner's ability to effectively do his job, especially when we are talking about security clearances? >> in the context of his security clearance and his effectiveness reports that kushner met with a lower level

delegation before the call took place in terms of just bilaterally relations. i think is shows the power that even a son-in-law staffer has in terms of creating an environment where something could happen. but i think the issue here really isn't the security clearance of kushner. the issue is let's get to this very basic thing. mexico never said it was going to pay for a wall. it's not hard to see how it's insulting to mexico, no matter who the president is of that nation. >> does the president nieto's refusal to pay for the wall, the president's refusal to acknowledge that publicly, and this whole scuffle, have any impact on the conversation that is happening in washington or will start again when they get back on wall funding, daca, family reunification, the visa

lottery, that entire equation? >> as lauren just mentioned, i think the issue, if you want to get a border wall funding, you have plans on -- you have proposals on the table that becomes are willing to pay for. even if they don't necessarily agree with the wall, if that is the -- if that is the price to pay for tougher security, democrats on record as wanting tougher security measures. so that seems to me the operative way of getting the wall discussion going and it is using the daca recipients as bargaining chips which is something that is very, very controversial within congress and within the outside of the nation's capital where the real people are being used as pawns in this and conflating the two issues because the dreamers, let's all remember, are people who came here involuntarily and that is why they are here illegally. so the issue with the mexico president not coming here

doesn't seem to me as important as the more pretsi imore pressi finding why the daca people are here illegally. >> if the wall is not paid by mexico, if they do not finance this wall, is there a political consequence for this president who will not back off of they are going to pay for this wall? >> actually, it jeopardizes two promises that president trump made. he also promised to renegotiate nafta. there is another round of negotiations that were supposed to start with mexico very soon and now those talks are in jeopardy. so just think. border wall, significant promise of president trump, border wall with mexico paying for it and renegotiate the trade deal and nafta which includes mexico and canada. so this lack of a bilateral

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people rallied and they walked together. this was yesterday afternoon. they were supporting the school and supporting the mission from some of these students to push for stricter gun laws in the state. >> the ar-15 style gun used in the parkland shooting was legally by 19-year-old nikolas cruz and the president is indicating he wants to stop to prevent. >> let's listen to what the president told fox news regarding raising the age to purchase a gun. >> perhaps we will do something having --, you know, on age, because it doesn't seem to make sense that you have to wait until you're 21 years old to get a pistol but to get this ar-15 in the student used doesn't make sense. >> the head of the nra restated its longstanding position that no changes should be made to age at which you can purchase a gun. earlier this week as well the president floated this idea of giving a bonus to teachers who

are armed. >> let's talk about this now. claire is a mother helping to organize school walkouts in protest of gun violence and texas attorney general ken paxton who supports the idea of arming some teachers. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> so, first, let's hear the arguments on both sides of arming teachers. >> i would love it with gun regulations would work. the reality is somebody who is willing to kill people is not going to be the one that is going to follow a new gun regulation. only law abidining citizens wil do that. i want to have something that work and that is having law enforcement in schools, trained professionals, or if you don't have the resources for that teachers or others who who have been trained so it acts and a deterrent. two, it can act more immediately by having people there when the

shooter comes in and potentially stop it from happening or at least mitigate the damage. >> comralaire? >> i can't fathom this is what we are talking about took today that we are talking about arming our teachers who are supposed to teach our kids and giving them guns? it makes no sense whatsoever. what if they are, you know, shooting back and they shoot a child? our teachers need to be able to teach in their schools and we need to get the guns out of the schools and that will protect our children and stop these crazed shootings from happening. >> what do you say, ken, to the argument that, you know, there are so many things that could go wrong. even if you have -- even if you have a teacher who has been trained, the likelihood of them being accurate in their shooting in a stressful situation is very questionable. >> well, first of all, i think it's going to act as a deterrent. if a shooter is coming in there

they don't know who is armed and who is is not and acts as deterrent. first responders can't get there immediate so i would rather take the opportunity of a trained teacher. within seconds we will lose children and see this happen over and over until we start protecting our children with people in the school who can do something about it. >> mr. attorney general, let me ask you a question here. you said at the top of that answer that it would act as a deterrent because a shooter wouldn't know who is armed and who is not. couldn't we switch out the word shooter here and say s.w.a.t. team member? if someone is coming in in the case of an emergency, in the case of an active shooter, that law enforcement then doesn't know who is armed and who is not and will be looking for a gun and you'll have a significant percentage of staff and teaching group there that has a weapon? >> yeah, look. . no perfect solution to this because when you've got people who are willing to kill, you've got to figure out the best

solution. the fact that s.w.a.t. is going take a while to get there is my only concern. i wish we could have s.w.a.t. members there immediately but by the time they get there, a lot of damage can happen and we lose a lot of lives. um trying to figure out what is the most effective way to prevent loss of life and loss of our children. >> isn't part of the way to prevent it, however, and, claire, i want you to weigh in on this, it's not about guns. it's about mental health. it's about a school counselor being aware of and identifying a student who may be at risk? and, claire, how do we do that? because it clearly did not work in this situation. this was a kid that they knew had problems. >> absolutely. our school counselors, everybody. parents, students, need to speak out about they have concerns about a student. but i just can't believe that we are talking about putting more guns in schools and that we

can't talk about taking the gun out of the schools. that is what we need to do here. i've started a group that has thousands of members that is coordinating a walk-out on march 14th at 10:00 a.m. and i want every american to walk out and stand for 17 minutes to honor those who have been killed in gun violence, until we, as americans, get out in the streets and actually tell our congress people and our president what we want is no more guns and a lockdown to be put on that, we are not going to have a change. i am totally not behind arming our teachers. it's just not the answer. we need to make great change in pulling these guns off the streets. >> isn't mental health part of that issue? it's not just about guns. it is going to be a collective remedy in some capacity and guns

are just part of it. >> absolutely. i totally agree with that. we need to focus on mental health. this kid should have been identified and should have been identified by law enforcement. >> he was identified. he was identified. >> he should have been identified and then -- they should have dealt with him. so, yes, i think this is a multifaceted solution but regulations are not the only solution. we have to look at a broader and more comprehensive approach if we want to protect our children. >> claire, you said a few moments ago you want the guns out of the school, out of the building. you don't want guns with the teachers or am i getting this right? you don't want more armed security guards? >> lots of schools have security resource officers who on the grounds. i just think we are missing the big picture here, that guns and assault weapons are out of control in this country and there is far too easy access and

to create change, we have got to start dealing with that problem and stop talking about -- this is all a diversionary tactic. we have got to stop assault weapons, the sale of assault weapons and we need to make a change and every american needs to stand up and say we are tired of this, it's got to change now. >> what then is the alternative to what we are hearing from the attorney general and those who agree with him that there should be armed teachers, additional resource officers? what then is that first defense in the five to eight minutes it may take a law enforcement officer to get to a school, how should they protect themselves if there are no additional weapons and there is no defense there? >> i think better security. keeping these kids out of the school. our kids are already doing lockdown drills. any know what code red is. they have blackout curtains on

the windows. our kids are going to school and living every day in a militaristic society, basically. it's nuts! and we are talking about adding more and more to it. we need to be talking about getting the guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them and that is a lot of raising the age and just making sure that that doesn't happen. >> mr. attorney general, i know in texas there are some teachers that have guns in the school. truly, how has that worked for you thus far? aren't there parents that are nervous about that? >> well, sure. so far in texas, i don't think we have had a shooting at a school where teachers are armed. if you look at other countries that have done this like israeli, they have been very successful at preventing these types of shootings.

i don't why we don't look at other countries and places have done this. i love a claire cares about this children, what i want to focus on how do we make this work and how do we prevent the death of our children? i don't want to spend a lot of time working on regulations that are not going to work when, in reality, if we continue to focus on that, we are going to lose more children. >> let's also point out that some of these countries where you say there are weapons in schools or armed people, they have different gun laws for the entire population. >> right. >> so we need to pair that as we put this conversation together. >> there is no discussion on regulation whatsoever really in our country so that is where we need to start. that conversation has to begin. >> claire and ken paxton, attorney general for texas, thank you both. >> thank you. coming up on "state of the union" with jake tapper today, broward county sheriff scott israeli is answering questions after police sources tell cnn four deputies did not go inside that building to face the shooter as he was shooting.

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good. you've been very fair to me that's all i ask for. i call it fake news. there's so much fake news. >> thank you. president trump there a little bit of sarcasm. >> just a little. >> yeah. two things here cnn's doing pretty good. doesn't he have other things to do than paying attention to cable news ratings. >> i don't know. let's talk about it with brian stelter. what's your take away, here, brian? >> it's interesting to me that he called in judge jeanine rather than going on camera. donald trump would call in to all the cable news channels for interviews and was actually pretty controversial back then. don't let him call in. he should have to go on camera like anyone else. so it is telling now that the president of the united states, he just shows up by phone for a tv interview and it makes it harder to hold someone

accountable when they're just dialing in by phone. in that case, she's not interested in holding the president accountable. they are trends. she talked to trump about a job. she interviewed him for her book. it was a very friendly phone conversation. >> she said something that struck me and i don't know if you noticed this just in the read that his ratings are soaring. >> she talked about his approval rating soaring, there was a straw poll of the people at the conservative conference over the weekend giving him 97% approval. it means that the conservative base that goes to that conference is very much supportive of him, that he's the new leader of the conservative movement. to say that's the same as the real approval ratings, that's bow dwus. there's some new approval rating data in the cnn poll but suffice to say trump is not soaring. he remains at historically low

levels when compared to past presses at this time. >> what we're hearing from the president about where he wants to move on gun policy and raising the age, it's not so much what we're hearing -- what we heard during the campaign but what we're seeing on fox news which is, you know, his favorite network. >> there's certainly a bold defense of the nra and of gun rights that you're seeing on fox's opinion shows. and whether it's talking about guns, whether it's talking about the democratic memo, it's continuing to be remarkable how much president trump watches cable news and reacts to it. sometimes when the fox segment is accurate, president trump gets it wrong. let me show you what i mean from yesterday. these are a couple of trump tweets that misquoted fox news. this one says, the russians had no compromising info on donald trump. nobody on fox news ever said

those words. in fact, what was said on fox news was, there's nothing in this new determine memo that said that russia has any compromising memo on donald trump. either he misinterpreted or misunderstood or you werely misquoted. here's a better example. this is about adam schiff who you all been talking about this morning. congressman schiff omitted and distorted key facts. it looks like he's quoting fox news. actually, that quote is from congressman schiff talking about the republicans. let's put schiff's tweet on screen. he said, some time ago republicans on our committee released aid declassified memo that omitted and distorted key facts. someone fox news read that tweet, president trump heard and did a 180. i'm rubber your glue, anything

you throw at me bounces off me and sticks to t. he loves to turn the critiques on his enemy around and thrown them back at those people. >> we appreciate it so much. thank you. >> thanks. be sure to catch brian on reliable sources today at 11:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. don't miss an all new episode of the cnn original series the radical story of patty hearst. >> at some point i think in that year, patty hearst but on tonia enliked it better than anything she liked before. >> she was indoctrinated into those beliefs and now regrets it and denies it because once you take on those beliefs, those radical beliefs, you have to take a certain amount of

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new democratic memo defends fbi conduct in the russia investigation and says several trump campaign aides were facing 2016 scrutiny. >> certainly the memo was a nothing. i had no phone calls. no meetings. no nothing. there is no collusion. plus a shift in the guns debate that's student survivors demand