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calling for mexico to pay for the wall would have serious harm on his party. i understand why he didn't do it. i think there is a broader lesson here. actions have consequences. the president has publicly humiliated mexico for the better part of the last three years with this i'm going to build a wall and they're going to pay for it. that has effect on the mexican body politic. and now it has made it harder for us to get to a good place with the current mexican government. >> great to talk to you. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. >> that firearm did not walk itself into the school. >> of course i won't resign. the school resource officer was behind a stairwell wall just standing there. he never did anything.
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for four minutes. >> having a teacher who is armed is not a bad idea but it's an idea that needs to be discussed. >> a lot of bad things in that document. that's a very bad document for their side. >> the author of the dossier didn't come to the fbi's attention until well after the fbi opened its counterintelligence investigation. >> we sought to correct the record. enough information is out there now that the republicans sent out a phony memo. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. stoneman douglas high school students are getting set to go back to school this wednesday while lawmakers are back in session for the first time with this major question hanging over capitol hill. that is will congress do anything to attempt to stop mass shootings? in florida, governor rick scott is ordering an investigation
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into the police response to the shooting. dozens of state lawmakers are calling for immediate suspension of scott israel for dereliction of duty. >> the sheriff they want to go after. the sheriff isn't helping himself. grilled in a cnn interview about the red flags missed on the shooter, he defended his odds citing his amazing leadership, insisting he is not going to resign. a new cnn poll suggests the parkland massacre changed americans's views on guns in ways we haven't seen recently. look at the numbers. we haven't seen them this size in a long time. people favoring tighter gun laws 70%. it was 52% after vegas.
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>> reporter: chris, the staff of stoneman douglas back on campus sorting out class schedules, among other administrative tasks as they prepare for students to resume classes on wednesday. school officials and teachers tell me it will be a while before the focus is on academics. >> we have to do a thorough investigation. and whoever didn't do their job has to be held accountable. >> reporter: florida's governor ordering the investigation into law enforcement's response to last week's deadly school shooting amid criticism that broward county sheriff's deputies waited too long to enter marjorie stoneman douglas high school. sheriff israel coming under scrutiny. >> i've given amazing leadership to this agency. >> amazing leadership? >> yes, jake. you don't measure a person's leadership by a deputy not going into a -- these deputies received the training they needed. >> maybe you measure somebody's
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leadership by whether or not they protect the community. >> florida republican richard corcoran and others demanding sheriff israel be suspended for incompetence and dereliction of duty after bill haeger wrote a statement to governor scott the day before. >> of course i won't resign. it was a shameful letter. it was politically motivated. i never met that man. he doesn't know anything about me. the letter was full of misinformation. >> reporter: sources telling cnn they were shocked to found three others who had not yet entered the building. broward county sheriff disputes this, saying it was only the school resource officer, and he has resigned. lawmakers returning to work under national pressure to act on gun reform. a new poll shows 70% saying they favor stricter gun laws. with congress looking at a list of options on the table, including banning bump stocks,
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background check system, change the legal age from 18 to 21, restricting the size of gun magazines or all-out ban on the purchase of ar-15 style weapons. ivanka trump weighing in on her father's proposal to arm teachers. >> i think having a teacher who is arm, who cares deeply about her students or his students and who is capable and qualified to bear arms is not a bad idea. but it is an idea that needs to be discussed. >> reporter: amid all the political fallout, a somber first day back on campus. as students returned for orientation sunday, their first time back on school grounds since surviving the massacre. >> it was scary. kwreub how i was going to feel when i went in and saw the fence around the freshman building. all the windows were covered. i can't believe something like this happened. >> reporter: president trump will meet with many of the
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nation's governor this morning at the white house. he said parkland will be first on their list to discuss. after a difficult few weeks at the white house, a new poll puts the president's approval rating at 35%, down 5% the past month. chris, alisyn, it matches his lowest rating since he took office on. >> let's bring in cnn analyst david gregory and jeffrey toobin. good to have you both. david, what is your take on the state of play here? the focus was supposed to be on how did this person get a weapon and enable himself to do all of this killing. now there is a lot of attention on the investigation, what was known about him. what was and was not done. the sheriff went to the scene after the shooting and started. what's your politics on the moment? >> i think we can ask all of these questions. we can have attention on the accessibility of guns. how someone in this circumstance got his hands on a weapon
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legally when he couldn't, you know, go buy a beer. that's an appropriate debate. that debate will go on for a while. i think there should be a lot of attention paid on how law enforcement, when they get information about someone, how they pass this on, share it among law enforcement agencies, how they share it with the school, the federal government. we have to get our hands around this. it's too easy to list all the missed signals and say, aha, you see, we could have stopped it when there's individual steps that are difficult to take. he could have been incarcerated or committed to a mental institution. we have to figure out how information sharing leads to a red flag that law enforcement can actually act on. we can do all of these things at once. focus gun control measures and the investigation. >> jeffrey, today congress is back. washington has a waoerdz way of warping the mind. but before they returned there
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were suggestions there would be bipartisan action. pat robertson and tphraubg talking about raising the tpraeupblg 18 to 21. >> well, perhaps. count we as very accideskeptica. the nra has enormous sway over the republican party today. >> they are serving ties. some things are changing like we haven't seen before. >> some things are changing. let's see whether anything comes up for a vote. or even comes up for a committee hearing. >> they are reflecting a larger truth, the nra has an enormous
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holdover the republican party. not so much because of contributions. but their rating, who gets an a, b, or c, moves votes especially in republican primaries. republicans do not want to offend the nra. as long as that is the fundamental truth -- >> they sure spend a lot of money for a group that said they are not a lobbying organization. they could have arrested him. they could have taken his guns away. law enforcement screwed up. the fbi screwed up. that's why this happened. stphraougt. >> we can't knorewrite history. we have a hard time determining what took place in the past. do you know how hard it is to predict what take place in the future? the idea that we can look at someone and decide whether they're going to be -- >> putting his gun to people's
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heads? >> something that moved me a lot was dave collins's book about columbine. the line is there is no profile. serial killers differ from one another. think about the virginia tech shooter. think about aurora, colorado. these people are very different. >> can i raise that? >> they are all men who have a history of depression and isolation. >> that's millions of people. >> let me raise another point that i think has to be a focus of debate. the care taker for this young man who is concerned about his obsession with guns, he's unrule in the household, fighting with her son. if she says to law enforcement, you know, there is something wrong with this kid. his mother died and he's really out of control and i don't think he should have his guns, law
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enforcement can take that report. but until that's an adjudicated matter, a resolved matter legally, he cannot be flagged in the federal system. now, isn't that something that we ought to look at changing? you say, oh, it is an abridgment of his individual rights. don't we do this on no-fly lists, which are certainly fallible. but to create a security matrix. there may be a reason for a gun seller to have something in front of them to say why do you want this gun? >> president trump signed a bill that made it easier, easier for people with mental health problems to get guns. let's not pretend history started in parkland. history has been going on on this seupblg for a long time. and i think that rule from february of last year tells you
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a lot. >> it does tell you a lot about where the president is but not the public. here's the latest poll. so something has changed just from the las vegas massacre. with that huge body count in october when this poll was taken after the las vegas massacre, 52% of americans favored stricter gun laws. it is now at 70%. david, to your point, listen, we know in connecticut those orders of protection work. so when somebody does call the deputy -- i mean, the sphf sheriff or the police saying this person is a danger on themselves or others, they can take away their guns temporarily. not forever, but for the moment of crisis. florida didn't have that. maybe that's where we start. >> i go back to what jeffrey
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said. we have seen after newtown, you see what skwrorts who support gun restrictions. i put that in quotes because that is generally the case. when it gets time for lawmakers to vote, you have the nra is the kind of the tip of the sphere here which doesn't necessarily reflect all of its members who are willing to support restrictions. but they argue the tip of the sphere, no, this is about an assault on the second amendment and civil liberty and because of this rating system they can stop action in congress that even their members might support. >> that is a dynamic that is difficult to change. >> when you talk about the nra and the poll numbers, which are significant, do you have think about preference intensity too. people who answer polls, certainly they support tougher gun laws. but it is not an issue they
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think about every day. the people who care about guns care about it passionately and will vote against people who are not on board. >> i understand. i just also think that the fact that all of these companies, airlines and rental car companies for the first time trying to sever ties with the nra. >> they are targeting the nra not entire municipalities. >> can i say the other thing i think we need? a lot of the media debate is also driven by extremes on both sides. we need to get back -- when is the last time we had a good debate. i'm sure we're trying to do it on cnn between wayne la pierre and someone involved in the assault weapons ban. let's get to real factual-based debate about what changes could make a difference. >> well, i think that was called the cnn townhall. people of all different
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constituencies on the stage. >> of course that was important. i'm talking about having specific issue debates about what things wake so you have a discussion about what these opportunities are. >> i totally agree. let's go with what works. time for cnn "money" now. corporate america is entering the national gun debate. some companies are cutting ties with the nra. christine romans is at the magic wall to explain all of this. a growing number of companies are breaking up with the nra because customers are demanding it. they are targeting companies that offer discounts to nra members. for some, the pressure is working. similar man tech, metlife, multiple car rental agencies all ending their relationship with tphaur they're. customer feedback caused it to
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cancel an nra credit card. no more will they offer that. the latest delta, united airlines, both coming out and saying they are ending their discounted flights for nra members. they asked the gun lobby to remove their information from its website. the nra calling this a shameful display of political and civic cowardice. they are responding to their consumers. for years corporate america stayed away from political charged issues like gun violence. now companies are taking a stand on climate change, immigration, gay rights. that's actually good for business. according to a recent poll, the most important thing from consumers is to buy from companies that do the right thing. there are others on social media who have taken the opposite approach. thank you for telling us the list of companies that i will
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boycott because they don't support my second amendment rights. >> they are saying online the nra will have more members than ever. absent fathers and broken homes. that's why we have a crisis of gun violence. why he thinks more involved families is the key to stopping future tragedies. and the strong reaction his opinions are getting, next. hi i'm joan lunden. today's senior living communities have never been better, with amazing amenities like movie theaters, exercise rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros even pet care services. and there's never been an easier way to get great advice. a place for mom is a free service that pairs you with a local advisor to help you sort through your options and find a perfect place. a place for mom. you know your family we know senior living. together we'll make the right choice.
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>> all right. the people are making their preference known. 07% of americans in a new cnn poll support stricter gun laws. the current debate on gun control on things like background checks, age limits, access to what kind of weapons, rick santorum wants to turn the
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focus of debate toward family. >> in my opinion, certainly gun control is a debate we need to have. another debate we need to have is a common issue, the fact that these kids come from broken homes without dads. that is not something we are talking about. that is the common al teufplt you talk commonality. we have to work together to see what we can do to get more dads involved in the kids's lives. >> here is the man himself. nra member with a lifetime a-plus rating. good to have you. rick, thank you for being here. you say we have to find things to work on together. shouldn't the priority be who gets access to weapons and how? don't you think that should be where our lawmakers start? >> no, i don't. i think if you look at the root cause of these problems, i think the root cause of these problems really end up to a lot of
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societal factors, violence in ga have a games, violence on television, all sorts is of issues related to that kind of culture. secondly, you have issues in the home. i think 70% to 75% of, quote, school shooters, all young males, did not have a father growing up in the home for a variety of different reasons. if you want to look at the commonalities and trends you see fatherlessness at an epidemic of young men being raised without dads in the homes. there are a whole host of other maladies. >> no question you have cultures at play in our country. but if you look at places around the globe, the only metric that distinguishes the united states is the ease of access to guns and the number of guns, whether it's mental health, the family unit, nuclear unit. the only metric that matters are the guns and who gets them. how can that not be the priority? >> look, first off, i've said
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already why i don't think that's the priority. should there be a discussion particularly about people who are mentally ill or have a history of violence, having access to guns? absolutely. i think everyone would agree to that. i don't think anyone wants to put guns in the hands of people who are not mentally stable to be able to use -- >> then why have the law changed? >> the laws have changed. >> how? you have to be adjudicated memorily ill. you know this stuff. there is a whole universe of behavior not captured. i'm saying on the federal level. >> don't say it's not happening. it's happening on a state-by-state level. sure, it could happen on a national level. the reality is that most of the people involved in these shootings obtain guns legally. >> right. >> they obtain guns legally.
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and they probably wouldn't have been pulled out by the system. in this case, he would have. >> no, he wouldn't have been pulled out. he bought them legally because rumors and anecdotes about you in florida or on the national level don't have people take your guns and don't flag you from buying. >> well, again, that's something that is worth taking a look at. >> yeah. >> but i think the broader claims that are being made in this debate, you saw in the cnn townhall meeting is a much broader assault on the purchase and ownership of weapons. that's something that we have to be very, very is careful of doing. the reality is guns save a lot of lives in this country. in fact, the debate is being had, is something we need to have. whether we should have people in schools who are there to protect people. and more than maybe just one security agent. that's another important debate. we have all sorts of protection
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for people in vulnerable situations. what you do is send up an arrow, neon arrow to these places to killers who want to kill people. >> except school shootings are a small percentage of gun crime and small percentage of mass shootings. it is schools, true. although they have a much lower incidence. is it movie theaters, concerts, stores? mass shootings happen everywhere. sit an article of convenience to say if you just give teachers guns, there goes your school shooting program. it is disingenuous, rick. you know the numbers. >> it is specifically targeting places -- shooter target places that are soft targets. >> you need to make sure you don't have soft targets. when movie theaters say people with concealed carry can't take
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their guns in. it would be good there if people could respond the a shooter. we have to think anew -- for example, the sandy hook shooter, according to all the evidence i've seen, drove past the high school to the elementary school because the high school was known to have someone there who could actually fireback. >> and that person had a parent, a mother and father who worked like crazy to try to keep him from his own darkness. you can't parent somebody through being deranged and through mental health. you know this, too. i'm not saying you don't have family issues and cultural issues. but to ignore the main idea of why these school shootings -- >> chris, i'm not sure anybody is ignoring it. >> you say the reason it happened is we don't have dads. you have mental healthness and access to weapons. >> we should have a debate on guns and we should have a discussion about this.
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sit being completely ignored. the reality is not every shooter came from a broken home. some parents do their best and fail. but the reality is over 70% do. when you go into the incarceration rates of young men in and prison and you look at how many of them do not have fathers in the home, 75%, 80%. this is a serious problem in america, and we continue to whistle through the graveyard and ignore it. and i think that's a mistake. >> i don't disagree with that at all. at best it's a both. >> i'm not disagreeing with that. i said we should have both. >> but the reason you're getting heat on this is it sounds like you're trying to distract from the gun debate. just to be clear from that, you're not doing that. >> no. >> if lawmakers take it up, you're good with that. >> we shouldn't do it at the expense of law abiding people's access to guns. >> how do they do that? as a gun owner myself, if you
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don't have any of these red flags as they are being called, because there are states with red flag laws, if you don't have something like that, why would legal gun owners be worried about this? my answer seems to be somebody is telling them the next step is a gun ban. that's b.s. if you're a legal gun owner, all of these changes to the background checks, having all sales checked, if somebody has these concerns, some ability of a doctor, of a family or a guardian to raise something and create a temporary period of stability with that person, that doesn't affect me or you. >> most of the problems we have is the current system not succeeding and not doing the job it is designated to do. failures in background checks. >> you don't have all sales covered. >> no. they simply haven't done a very good job at executing the law. we have a problem with the execution of the current law before we look at how to expand
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it. again, i'm open to that debate. you saw folks like john cornyn, a strong supporter of the second amendment, coming forward with a modification with chris murphy. those kind of discussions i think are worth having. >> good. as long as it's coming through as a both, why not? >> very clearly i said yesterday it's not just both. there are a lot of reasons. the whole idea of the culture and the violent culture i think is someone unique to america. and, look, we can't compare america and the diversity we have and the freedom we have versus all the other countries in the worrell. we are the most free country in the world when it comes to free speech and the likes. we have a bill of rights. almost no other country does. we are more free. that comes with responsibility. and that means we have to do a better job in our culture in shaping values than we're doing right now. >> one of those is who gets a gun and under what circumstances.
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congress returns to washington as pressure mounts for changes to mesh's gun laws. a new cnn poll shows 70% of the public supports stricter gun control. that is up 18 prers from our october poll taken in the days after the shooting in las vegas that killed 58 people. so something has changed this time. will lawmakers take action? joining us now is democratic congressman of new jersey, the co-chair of the bipartisan problem-solvers caucus. how do you solve the problem? forget gun violence. that is very ambitious. how about school shootings? where do you start? >> this is one of the areas and i think the father of one of the victims said it the best. after 9/11 we came together as a
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country, democrats and republicans, and figured out a way to take on terror and obviously made incredible progress in that goal. there is no reason why as americans we can't come together and solve this. every other country has taken massive steps. why can't we? you are hearing democrats and republicans in the last weeks saying it's time. >> you have been working the phones even though congress hasn't been in session, and you have been talking to republicans. are they on board? what's going to happen? >> 24 democrats and 24 republicans in our caucus. what i have heard, and we have all been talking, what can we do. there is a real desire for action. 19 republicans wrote to the speaker saying let's get something done here. let's bring up some legislation. i think now is the time. we are meeting as a caucus on tuesday. to figure out what are the areas where we can agree and actually do something. >> your speaker paul ryan, is it
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going to bring something to a vote? >> this is where i am he hopeful. it's the young people, right that are talking about that. it is those voices that are pushing everyone along and why this time is different. i'm hopeful this time is different. you have to find areas where you can agree. if we just retreat to our corners like we have in the past, nothing will get done. if we keep up the pressure and the voices. >> i was just talking to jeffrey toobin on air, and he is not optimistic because he thinks mcconnell and ryan, you can do all you want behind these scenes. they can yell from the rooftops. if paul ryan doesn't bring it, nothing happens. >> enough people can accept it. there are areas like background checks. >> what would you do differently with background checks?
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it was considered the safest town in florida and they loved the school tomorrow there. they were your constituents. what's the fallout there. >> lots of connection cans. that's not just in the papers every day, but actually people calling you up. again, democrats and republicans, saying this time is different. and we have to do something. and listen to the voices of moms and dads and of course all of
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these young people, if they don't get you moving, i don't know what will. that's why you have to actually, and i believe this strongly, as the father and mother have said, we have to come together. there's no reason why as a country we can't solve this if we work together. i think we are committed to. we will get to work today. i believe and i'm hopeful for. >> just is one last time, do you have any reason to believe your leaders have changed, that they are going to take action? >> we haven't been able to get things in the past we have said that. we have to keep working and trying. and i think the biggest mistake would be just to go to default and say, forget it, nothing is going to get done. our job is to keep working for it. will we get there, i believe we will. but i'm hopeful the next time we sit down here we will have gotten it done. >> can you tell me what you are doing about high taxes in your
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state. >> and property. a tax deduction after the tax hike legislation at the end of the year, many taxes are up, not done. property values are down according to moody's. we have legislation moving in the state senate today on this. use a provision that 33 states have been using for decades now, which allows towns to create charitable funds in their towns for parks and law enforcement that people can contribute to and the town can give you a property tax credit, a deduction on your property taxes in exchange. this is a way for us in jersey to fight back after they just raised our taxes. and the courts have ruled on this. the irs is saying this is okay. and 33 states, mostly red states, have been using this provision. and now we're going to in new jersey. >> interesting. we have heard about these workarounds. congressman, thanks so much. >> great to be here. >> chris. all right. speaking of schools and what can be done, a teacher strike is going on right now shutting down
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schools across west virginia. why did they walk off the job? what will bring them back? that's next. most people come to la with big dreams...
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eastern ghouta enduring its seventh consecutive day of artillery fire and air strikes all from the russian-backed syrian regime. an opposition-run health organization says some of the
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injured may have been exposed to chlorine gas. russia's foreign minister called those allegations hoaxes. there's a familiar word. the violence coming despite a month-long cease-fire brokered by the united nations on saturday. the syrian regime says it is targeting terrorists in eastern ghouta and will continue to attack even with a cease-fire in place. >> back here at home, the "new york times" and multiple outlets are reporting that the studio cofounded by harvey weinstein is filing for bankruptcy. the board of the weinstein company announced the plan last night after last-ditch talks to sell to an investor group for $500 million collapsed. president trump reportedly pushing for his personal pilot to become the new head of the faa. axios reporting that duncan is on the short list. he piloted trump's plane during the presidential campaign.
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he has prior managerial experience and hadden impressive interview for the faa job. schools across the state of west virginia will be shut down. striking teachers protesting low pay and benefit cuts. let's get the latest from poe la sandoval. what's the situation? >> reporter: well, alisyn, today is the third day that schools will be closed, at least public schools. teachers tell us this is much more about just getting a raise. it is about paying for the rising costs of premiums. more is being taken out of their paycheck to pay for their benefits. so as you're about to hear, some teachers have to find other sources of income. >> as a professional degreed teacher working two jobs i qualified working for wic and food stamps. i collected on the wic. there are a lot of times where we had to choose between groceries and, you know, health
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coverage for my family. so this isn't just an issue and a bunch of people squabbling over a little bit of insurance benefits and a little bit of pay. we are really in a bad place here. >> okay. one potential exclusion, according to the teacher you just heard from is establishing a dedicated tax that would help shoulder the cost of benefits. what does the state say about this? he admitted, yes, teachers are underpaid and this is a step in the right direction but the state does not have enough room in the budget to pay for this. finally, what about the 270,000 students across the state, they will be home again today for the third school day. teachers recognizing they do also struggle economically. they actually september homework and food home with them on weapons before this strike began on thursday. guys? >> polo, interesting facets and also something because west virginia is not unique in these
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budget cuts. >> that is a wonderful context, the teachers are basically at poverty level. they need food stamps even with a full-time job. that's got to be fixed. team usa didn't do that well. it just didn't. andy scholes has more in this morning's "bleacher report". we all support the flag, support our athletes out there giving their best. but it was a tough round this time. u.s. finishing fourth in the medal count. 23 medals, the worst showing in the winter games since 1998 when we won just 13 medals. first daughter ivanka trump, she was on hand yesterday. jessie diggins, your flag bearer for team usa. she and randall won the first ever cross country skiing medal
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for the u.s. taking gold with that thrilling finish. stoneman douglas hockey team giving the school something to cheer about, winning the state tournament yesterday. the team upsetting the top seed in the tournament early on sunday before beating tampa . >> i love the way our team came together this weekend. it's been a rough week for all of us. hockey for us say stress reliever. we come out on the ice and we were playing font 17 that passed away out here. we came here to win and came here to go nationals. we all just came together and got the win. >> marjory stoneman douglas will now compete in the high school hockey national championships which take place next month in minnesota. the teams that originally considering the circumstances they didn't know if they were going to go compete but they said they sure glad they did. >> oh, my gosh, absolutely. everybody's so glad they did what a great outcome for them this week. thank you very much. so classes do resume
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for the first time since the mass shooting, stoneman douglas high school opened its doors to students and faculty for an orientation late yesterday. shooting survivor and marjory stoneman douglas brandon abzug was there and joins me now. thanks for taking time to talk to us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> what was it like to go back yesterday? >> it was a very surreal moment. on one hand it was nice to see my friends again who i haven't seen most of them in about two weeks and seeing some of my teachers, but on the other hand walking past the freshman building and seeing the memorials for the first time was very hard sight to see and this shouldn't have to happen at any other high school or any school in the country or world for that matter. >> the freshman wing where this happened has been sealed off, the windows taped over. i mean, it must look very haunting. what's it going to be like on
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wednesday when you all have to go back to school full time? >> i think it will be an extremely emotional day. i believe that we're going to all eight periods instead of four each day that we typically have and it'll be a half day of course. i think it'll be a day to adjust, a day to spend time with friends and teachers, people that we've spent the whole year with and prior years before, so it's going to be hard but it'll be nice to be back home. >> so much has come out this week in terms of all the missed signs that could perhaps have stopped this gunman. all the times that the sheriff's office as called to his house, all the different warnings that didn't get to the right ears or didn't cause any action or trigger any action. the sheriff there was on cnn this weekend trying to explain some of this with jake tapper. let me just play a portion for
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you. >> i can only take responsibility for what i knew about. i exercised my due diligence, i've given amazing leadership to this agency -- >> amazing leadership? >> yes. there's a lot of things we've done throughout. you don't measure a person's leadership by a deputy not going in to -- these deputies received the training they needed -- >> so brandon, a lot of state lawmakers are calling for that sheriff to lose his job. do you think that he bears responsibility? >> i think he should definitely keep his job. we know about this one time are where they dropped the ball, but we don't know about the 999 other times where they did do things to save us. in this instance, there are two specific times he said where deputies should have acted using the baker act and taken away the killer's guns, but it didn't.
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i'm confident that he will go through in this investigation and hold those accountable and overall, i've achd him on tv. i saw him at the town hall. i like what he's saying and i believe that he will keep us safe in the future. >> that's awfully generous of you. that's really kind hearted after what you've lived through. >> yeah. >> you put out a tweet -- go ahead, brandon. >> right. and i've know in this one instance it's very hard to keep one person accountable. it's a whole bunch of people and we need to move forward and, you know, make sure that this doesn't happen again. >> you put out this tweet that i think captures some of your, you know, generosity of spirit. you say as we continue to learn new information my school realizes that the fbi, our sro, three sheriffs deputies and politicians themselves failed to keep us safe but as yoda once
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said, the greatest teacher failure s. now is our opportunity to make things right, #neveragain. what do you want to see happen now? >> i think the most important thing starts with banning semi-automatic rifles. the governor's plan which he released earlier this week, it's a good plan and a good step in the right direction but in no way is that fully what we need to do. other countries have problems with mental health and things like that, so when we do not take care of the major problem which is these types of guns then we're not completely solving the problem and this could happen again and another thing is, it doesn't necessarily have to happen at schools. it can happen anywhere. at a park or concert. we've seen these things happen at orlando, las vegas, san bernardino and we can't have security everywhere. so by getting rid of the semi-automatic rifles it would be the best step in the right
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direction. >> okay. brandon abz-ug thank you for talking to us. we appreciate talking to you in this entire strategy and we'll be watching on wednesday. thank you very much. >> thank you. we're following a lot of news. let's get right to it. one person didn't do what he should have done. it makes me sick to my stomach. >> whoever didn't do their job has to be held accountable. >> if we don't fix this now, when will it change? >> we have to end our country of what's happening with respect to that subject. >> i'm hopeful that the president may be willing to take on the nra. if he does there may be a bunch of republicans who will follow. >> the memo was a nothing. >> i'm not surprised that the white house tried to bury this memo. the fbi acted appropriately. >> they are advocating that it's okay for the fbi and doj to use political dirt paid

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